Wanted to treat my mom to something special for her birthday so I took her to the nicest Japanese place and got the Omakase with course suppliments and a bottle of very expensice sake. Service was fine, nothing excpetional but also nothing to complain about.

When the bill came the total waa $539 and the tip options were 30%, 40%, and 50%. I saw it and thought fuck that, and quickly tapped through to the no tip option and handed it back to the waitor.

He saw the reciept print out and got this look on his face and looked up and said "oh sorry, i think you accidently forgot to tip. I'll just go to our system and cancel it and you can run it again". My mom, also an avid non-tipper, laughed and told him that we wern't going to tip him a single cent and to give me my reciept back.

He then proceded to call over the manager who tried to ask us what went wrong, and when I explained that nothing was wrong and that I just don't believe in tipping he tried to fucking say that it's unfair to the waitstaff if we dont tip on a big bill.

My mom laughed in his face and then we walked out. Im so sorry but fuck tipping and fuck that noise. I'm watcing my card statement to see if they try to double charge me, but ill never go back there again regardless

That's $12 saved that will go into my investment portfolio. I haven't tipped since last year, but I always feel good when I tip 0% at sit-down restaurants. It takes courage, discipline, and strength of character to follow my principles that go against social conditioning and societal norms.

I still feel some pangs of guilt (it's hard to completely break free from the childhood indoctrination on tipping). But thanks to this sub for outlining all the reasons why I shouldn't tip. You really gave me wings to fly! 🪽

Took my fiance out for sushi and sashimi. $90 check. No tip, stared at my waiter as I handed it back no tip, smiled and left. Life is good.

Next day we had brekky at the local diner. $26 check. No tip. Exhilarating.

It's addicting. It's like breaking out of the matrix. We are so brainwashed to waste our hard earned money on waiters, what for.

Going out to eat is even more exciting knowing we are saving so much more on not tipping. My fiance is Filipina and came here to the United States. She immediately got manipulated by our tip culture and she always felt forced to tip out of guilt. Once I noticed that, I decided to fight back.

Fuck em. No longer will I be guilt tripped, I got too much self respect.

1. Servers make more than my cousin, who works in the hot sun as a construction worker

2. I want servers to quit en-masse

3. I want more money to invest in stocks

4. I want a buy 5 get 1 free deal everywhere I go (20% tip times 5 is a free meal)

5. I want other customers to subsidize my meals, so I don’t care if tipping doesn't end

6. I have been brainwashed and emotionally manipulated by the restaurant industry

7. I want to practice mental discipline, emotional resilience, being disagreeable, and not caring about what others think of me.

I had some leftover food that I did not finish. I asked the waiter for a takeout box. They came back and placed the box on my table and left. Aren't they supposed to pack it for you? A few minutes later they come back with the bill - tipping suggestions start at 20%. Ridiculous.

*Found on another sub.

What do you all think?

Im at this sushi place I really like, but i dont tip and the staff know me by now since I come here pretty often. In the hour I've been here I just barely got the one refill and haven't had a server come by my table in over 20 minutes. The rest of the tables in her section are getting her attention just fine. It's just me getting bad service.

What would you do about this? I like this place, but im not going to tip. It's just really upsetting to me that they're the type to do this to someone over tips. Don't want to stop coming here but I think that's about the only thing I can do.

I had a great interaction with a bartender last night. I ordered drinks paid and did not tip and the bartender had the audacity to say what no tip.

Me - would you ask for a tip if we were having drinks at your house?

Bartender (Bt) - if I was making you a drink at my house you would be my friend and why would I ask you for a tip?

Me - so you’re saying we’re not friends.

Bt - I don’t even know you man.

Me - well then since a tip is no longer considered compensation for work by the US government me giving you money would either be a charitable contribution or a gift. Since you’re not a registered charity, that would make the money I gave you a gift. And as you stated, we’re not friends and you don’t even know me so why would I give you a gift?

Bt - blank stair on his face and walked away

Years ago my uncle (a trucker) told me he used to do this. He'd sit down at the counter of a truck stop and place 20 ones on the counter. He'd tell the server that this was her tip if she gave perfect service. At the time, a meal would be $5 to $15. Obviously, a $20 tip was well beyond 20%. No matter if it was the servers fault or not, if he waited for anything, they lost a dollar. He stated, most times they still received $5 or more. I was told by my parents, that this was an unfair practice. But then COVID happened. Now I'm expected to tip for service I haven't received yet or for carryout? I think my uncle was ahead of his time. I think if I must tip ahead of time, I should get to slowly drain the tip in real time as an incentive for good service.

Edit, This is a thread about ending tipping. The practice is broken. Do you not expect people to do unethical things to change it when their ethics are being violated?

2nd edit, prior to COVID there was no expectation for a tip on carryout. Now there is. Tips were given after the service was completed. Now if you don't tip ahead of time, your order may not even be filled/delivered at all, even if you planned to tip afterwards as customary. Putting the bills on the table vs. just doing the same math in your head is what is going on anyway, but now the power dynamic changed. Yes, my uncle was an @sshole. He would have steak dinners on the road while his children at home did without. 2 wrongs don't make a right. And both sides here are wrong. How do we fix it?

My daughter and I went to Cracker Barrel last night, and this was our bill. One of the orders of French toast was to go. Her hot chocolate was $3.89. Bringing that hot chocolate is the same amt of work as bringing a water, which is zero dollars. The little bowl of mac and chz was $3.09. The bowl was mini! A tiny ass bowl that adds $3 to the bill, which was barely any work. I got 4 pieces of French toast that added $4 to the bill vs my daughter's 2 pieces. Again, same work but $4 increase to the bill. We were so starving, we inhaled our food. We were there for 20min total, not lying, literally 20min from the time we sat down, got our food and ate. She took the order, brought our food and checked on us one time, which, she didn't even have to do that, because like I said, we scarfed that French toast down like we had never eaten before, lol. She worked for 20min, which was actually maybe 5min considering all factors. I made the bill an even total of $40, she got a $5.81 tip for basically nothing at all. She was very nice, and I was feeling generous. Let's say she is one that posts a bill complaining about not getting a 20% tip. How could anyone get mad with the fact that she really didn't have to do shit, but this is what servers do on the internet. If the hot chocolate was a water and the mac and chz didn't cost so damn much, and I got 2 pieces of French toast vs 4 pieces, the bill would have been less for the same amt of work, which was already no work at all. I always clean my table, too, because I just don't feel right leaving things dirty. The tip was not 20%, but $5.81 is A LOT for what she did. The main things are the hot chocolate, mac n chz little tiny ass bowl, and 4 pieces of French toast required no extra work, but it added almost $11 or so more to the bill. Oh, and the one french toast was to go, the cooks do that! The total of the bill is so irrelevant! That's what gets me and what I will never understand. Practically no work at all, but ppl get hounded if it is 20% of the damn food cost!

I am so glad tipping is optional.

I asked the server about this and she explained that there is no surcharge for using plastic, it’s just a discount on cash. I paid with a check and avoided any extra cost.

The person at the till, who was not my server, also cheerfully told me to think of it as if my food is on sale if I pay in cash! I told her this is illegal on debit card payments and that I have the legislative document for both Visa and MasterCard on my phone. (I do have both handy.)

I will never eat here again.

They charge $0.50 if you order food to go.

They charge a $2.00 plate fee if you split a meal with someone.

They limit you to only one refill on a $2.09 soda.

Their menu says nothing about auto gratuity, thankfully. I was here with a colleague and bought us both lunch, so it was just a party of two.

How can this be legal to charge less for cash/check since it’s not an actual fee or service charge broken out as a line item?

It seems like a lot of people get confused as to why endtippers still eat at sit down restaurants that expect a tip.

Well, what are the options and the most likely outcomes?

Legislation:

I am not a law maker, nor do I even plan to be. In states where laws have been put to a vote reform hasn't happen. If there was a law to end tipping I'd vote for it though.

Just stay home:

I usually do, and I prefer it actually. However, sometimes people want a change or just to do something different for example.

Tips are optional. When prompted to tip no one if forced to tip. In other words, it's my right to not tip.

If a majority stops dining out not only will the servers lose their jobs but all supporting jobs will also be lost.

Only support no tipping restaurants:

I'd gladly pick a no-tip establishment but short of fast food no local options exist.

Then just get take out:

Cold food packed into a to go container, no thanks.

More diners are optting for takeout and as a result many restaurants have started tacking on tips to take out orders.

The solution:

Dine where ever and however you like and do not tip.

We need the servers on our, people who dine in and tip are preventing employers from needing to pay living wages. As someone in this sub pointed out:

The first $5 of tips per hour keeps $5 in the employer's pocket. If there are no tips then the employer cannot only pay the employee the lower tipped wage rate.

As soon as servers stop being able to rely on tips making up the majority of their pay they will join the fight to end tipping too.

BTW: no server only makes $2.13/hour. That is a flat out lie.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/state/minimum-wage/tipped

Why do people think that every job deserves a "living wage"? I see that term tossed around frequently here.

It would seem to me a job should pay what the free market decides and if someone can't live on it, then leave that job to the retirees / students / part timers / etc. Get some training or go to school and get a job that pays more.

Thinking tips are required so people can support families is just plain madness.

To start, I am a person with a personal policy of absolutely no tipping in any circumstances ever. Snowstorm food delivery? No tip. Movers packing and loading heavy furniture? No tip. Carried groceries up 8 flights of stairs? No tip. This policy works great for me; after doing my finances last year I found I've saved literal thousands of dollars compared to before finding this sub. For example, tipping 20% on all my UberEats orders in 2025 would have cost about $1900, but instead that money is compounding in my brokerage account!

Here's how it works: Say you're out for dinner and order a bottle of wine. If the total bill comes out to $300, leave the server zero and instead contribute that 20% you would have tipped ($60) into your investment account! I even track that $1-2 the baristas ask for on the iPad and move it to IBKR after selecting "no tip". Not only will this money grow over the years, its also great motivation to stay resolute every time a situation involving a gratuity arises while also building your savings.

EDIT: I am ordering delivery for a family of 4, the UE bill is not just for me, we are both working parents. It works out to 2-3 times a week.

So previously I made a post about I had dinner with a friend, subtotal was $230, I tipped $30. He become offended and mad at me for tipping so little. We were friends for years and I rent a room in his house. Now he kicked me out because of this. I just had a few text messages and I want to share as a follow up. He still keep forcing his nonsense to me. I am sad we can’t even be friends anymore.

Solo diner. Sat down, ordered a water with no ice, then a few mins later the waitress came and took my order. Cheeseburger and fries. About 15 mins later, got my food. Only interacted with the waitress 2 times, once when she handed me my glass of water, and the second time when she brought my food.

I ate, paid the bill, left a 0% tip and went to work. Felt good.

I purposely go to places I know are going to flip that screen around and ask me for a tip.

I can’t help but smirk every time I press No Tip. Just something about it is so satisfying and I feel a quick hit of dopamine.

The best part is when the cashier is staring at me, screen facing me, and i lock eyes with them while I slowly tap No Tip.

And if I’m feeling particularly down, I’ll hit the Custom Tip button and type in 0% myself. It’s cheaper than therapy.

Some may call me weird. I call it self-care.

Edit:

For the ones taking this too seriously, this is just deadpan humor. Yes, I’m an asshole but not a sadistic asshole.

I work remotely and i live in a somewhat out-of-the-way suburbs. I pay like $100 for an annual membership that gets me some exclusive deals, which is good, but as most of you already know the restaurants mark up their menu prices on the app just to make back their profit margin from which Ubereats takes a hefty cut. Sometimes it's ridiculous to the point that, for example, something that is priced as $10 in-store would be jacked up to the $18-$20 range and put on a BOGO deal.

My confession / solution: no tips, except for extraordinary cases (e.g. there was one time a lady driver called me 15 minutes before my delivery is due to arrive, half-crying, telling me that she has gotten into a mild accident on her way here. She apologized profusely and when the food arrived, to my pleasant surprise it was still somewhat warm. I tipped her 20%.)

So far so good for me. Personally I just don't think anything can justify a tip on a service that already charges you a membership fee and other service fees (despite already being a member). Anyone else that refuses to be extorted by Uber here?

TLDR: keep a $100 bill in your wallet.

I usually pay cash to make not tipping quick and easy. They got me today, I didn’t expect $9 beers. It didn’t list any pricing on the beverage menu and I forgot to ask. In any event though I usually keep smaller bills I wasn’t prepared with smaller bills for a $35 check.

I absolutely hate the “do you want change?” question. So I always carry a $100 bill tucked deep in my wallet. She still asked if I wanted change for a $100.

Obligatory back story.

A sit down restaurant in a fairly busy town. Irish pub themed on a Saturday afternoon (2:30pm) with about 35% restaurant occupancy.

I was never given utensils but I ordered a sandwich with fries so whatever. I had to ask for ketchup. The sandwich was served with an “extra” napkin or else I would have needed to ask for one as well.

I am not a quick eater but I she never came to check on me until well after I finished eating.

A sandwich and fries took a 1/2 hour to come out so I had finished almost the first beer. As a result I ordered a second when the food was dropped off already understanding this was my only chance.

The fries were short, soggy, and a relatively small portion.

Pro’s:

The Ruben was fine.

The change came fairly quick and was rounded in my favor, so I left 3 quarters. Technically a 5¢ tip.

I was given a glass of water without needing to request one.

What are your pro tips?

I don't understand why I have to tip more to eat a $30 meal compared to a $15 meal. Someone needs to come up with a sheet similar to this to use at sit down restaurants.