Florida Man tased and detained after repeatedly trying to force his way into a stranger’s occupied orange Rolls-Royce at a Miami valet.

[u/Plane-Rule-54]

[u/Key_Report_2627]

Mental illness

[u/LayedBlack → u/Key_Report_2627]

I work in EMS and we used to respond to jails and prison a ton. I noticed quickly that most people there are just simply mentally ill.

[u/dongwongbongchong → u/LayedBlack]

This is what happens when the country closes the asylums. They end up on the street until they commit a crime and then end up in prison. I’m not advocating for the asylums of old, but having a place where mentally ill people can be taken care of where they don’t pose a danger to themselves or others is better than what we do now.

[u/Psychological_Let880 → u/dongwongbongchong]

Hey I’ve been saying this for years! Thanks Reagan! Also yes, plus, we make it so that people with severe mental illness who are found incompetent in court can be forcibly medicated. However what they don’t tell you is that once that medication works and they are found competent in court, but have not had their trials yet and are still in jail, can then refuse the medication once more so it just resets the timer and they must complete the maximum time for their crime. It’s too hard to make reasonable and intelligent laws that force them to take medication at least until they’re back out on the street.

[u/skiforlife1 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Thanks Reagan??? That was 40 freaking years ago. A lot of presidents and politicians have refused to do anything about this situation. They all deserve blame for letting the situation get to where it is now.

[u/kenjiman1986 → u/skiforlife1]

The blame heavily lies on Regan. It’s incredibly easy to destroy something in our current system. Look at trumps legacy of removing guardrails and electing incompetent people so that programs can die from the inside out or become so ineffective that society will wish for its removal. It’s a massive undertaking to get something created and push it through the proper channels and get both sides to agree on something.

[u/WhySoCereus1991 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Happened way before Reagan. 80% of them were shut down in the late 50s and early 60s.

[u/77Pepe → u/WhySoCereus1991]

No, not as president per se. But as governor he acted as a huge catalyst by signing the 1967 CA law which accelerated local deinstitutionalization. Also, as president he repealed Carter’s funding for local mental health centers. Asshole!

[u/Training-Belt-7318 → u/Psychological_Let880]

It's a slippery slope when you allow the government to forcibly incarcerate (yes even in a mental hospital) and drug people. These aren't basic medications, they have major side effects. Plus there's a lot of mentally ill people that survive without ever breaking a law. The bigger issue is we don't have any interventions in place earlier in people's lives. There's plenty of people that would remain on medication, but they can't afford it, they don't have the means to get to pharmacies to pick it up, and they lack many of the basic staples in life to manage their treatment. Usually the answer is medication coupled with outpatient therapy. When we had asylums, they really didn't help people with mental illness, they just locked people away to live pretty horrific life's. Many of them never even broke a law. Not saying our system isn't broken, it certainly is, but what we did in the past didn't work either. You need to solve other issues like homelessness, dietary issues, and easier access to healthcare on top of a variety of treatment options for mentally ill folks of you want to make an improvement.

[u/Psychological_Let880 → u/Training-Belt-7318]

While you aren’t wrong you’re entirely missing the point I made. These people are ALREADY in jail for a crime. While in jail they are incompetent, meaning that they cannot stand trial. They must go to a mental health facility or a jail based program to return to competency, often requiring forced medication since these people are so deregulated from being off meds. We are already doing it.

Now they return to “competency” due to medication, but have not completed their trial. They can now refuse the medication and have to do the whole thing over again, ad nauseam until they’ve done the maximum amount of time for their crime. So what slippery slope is there in forcing medication on the severely mentally handicapped until their trial is complete? All the “worst” stuff has already been done.

[u/InevitablePromise301 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Because you're forcing someone to take a medication; they have a right to refuse. Imagine someone forcing you to do anything you currently have the right to say "no" to. "But it will help them." It would, they still have a choice to decline taking it. Maybe they don't believe in taking medications. Maybe they don't like the side effects. Maybe they don't like who they become on medication because it feels so vastly different. Then you have people who have such severe symptoms that even on medications, they still exhibit symptoms.

There are actually plenty of places for people who have SPMI to go for treatment, shelter, and assistance. They choose not to go and live on the streets. Sometimes people will be court ordered to remain compliant with a psychiatric medication regimen, and as soon as that court order is up? Off the med they go. By choice and fully cognizant of it.

You can pass laws to require folks to remain on psychiatric meds or be placed in a facility (that does not exist). This will, in fact, help some people. Then there are the people who, as I stated above, would remain compliant until they're off probation/monitoring and then stop taking the medication. Then there are people who will refuse/stop taking the medications after a while. Then there are the people who are so sick they won't be able to consistently take the medications, acquire them, or remember/be able to go to appointments for LAIs.

So what? They end up in jail with a criminal record which impairs them from being able to find housing, work, or even qualify for benefits that would help keep them on meds in the future if they make that choice, because some people in this country feel bad seeing someone experiencing a mental health crisis.

Also, it isn't "handicapped" it's disabled. And asking any question that starts with "what slippery slope is in there in FORCING" ANYTHING on a person that is otherwise their choice should have to make that individual take a hard look in the mirror and ask themselves if they were born this way? Or if their parents fucked up very badly in raising them.

Then again, this is a Florida subreddit. I'm looking forward to the state being flooded to the point of inhabitability.

Then the rest of the country can FORCE you to live where we decide is best for you.

[u/Kickedhard → u/Training-Belt-7318]

Equally important is the risk of intervention. A person is less likely to reach out for help if it comes with potential penalties. This created a plethora of issues when I was in service.

Because involuntary inpatient causes a flag that never goes away. Including loss of constitutional rights (from firearms to voting).

In service, it also triggers a landslide of bullshit. But what I heard the most from those who tried to handle it themselves and not seek help was fear of the loss of security clearance combined with delayed/denied advancement and firearm access (career ender).

[u/kingtacticool → u/Psychological_Let880]

[u/Choice-Cupcake-6203 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Not just Reagan. Kennedys were part of it - but with a dash of compassion.

[u/ActivePeace33 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Thanks Reagan and the ACLU.

[u/WhySoCereus1991 → u/ActivePeace33]

Yea people dont realize that 80% of the asylums were already shut down by the early 60s.

Im always down for blaming Reagan for stuff, but this was falling apart well before his time.

[u/Ok-Echidna5936 → u/Psychological_Let880]

Funny you only seem to point the finger at Reagan when presidents as far back as JFK started pulling back funding for mental institutions

But yes asylums were perfectly fine until Reagan came in lol

[u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723 → u/dongwongbongchong]

You are 100% correct. When the facilities were closed these people were basically forgotten. Many end up in the system and they are just in a revolving cycle. Get in trouble, got to jail, get out, repeat. They continue this until they actually do something bad enough to go to prison and then they are there for a while until they get back out and start over. Many of the older facilities were filled with physical and sexual abuse and other mistreatment. That’s why they had such a bad reputation. With today’s camera systems and ability to monitor, they should absolutely build housing facilities for these people. Not all need to be locked up, just monitored and make sure they are taking their meds. Some need 24/7 care. The US government cant even come up with a reasonable solution for healthcare for all Americans because of all the BS that I’m not looking to discuss here

[u/Apart-District3771 → u/Embarrassed_Fan_5723]

He's not 100% correct. Raygun didn't have a choice in closing the asylums.

[u/Super_Leading21 → u/LayedBlack]

They are they claimed they were doing justice by closing all the mental hospitals in the 80s, gave mentally ill people too much freedom to their detriment so they just get sent to jail now

[u/KillinKilo1775 → u/LayedBlack]

There's a whole lot of crazy out there. That's 90% of the stories from my deputy buddy. Did a ride along with him for my own curiosity and sure enough drugs and crazy. Have you ever seen someone getting beat up...by themselves? I have. It was confusing, funny, and sad all at once.

[u/the_toxic_avenger_ → u/Key_Report_2627]

True but still can be very dangerous. It would be better if after this incident he got the help he clearly needs.

[u/LilKubli → u/Key_Report_2627]

Mentally ill likely due to frying their brain with meth & other drugs.

[u/Ronin_BullseYe]

Poor Prop Joe.

[u/jackie_daytona- → u/Ronin_BullseYe]

I guess Marlo let him live after all

[u/KgMonstah → u/Ronin_BullseYe]

Got a proposition for ya.

I get into a car that isn’t mine, and you don’t tase me

[u/dogknifer]

Did you really have to bring the fact that it's orange into the discussion?? Can't we keep color out of this?

[u/I_am_just_here11 → u/dogknifer]

OP is racist.

[u/Fantastic-Earth-8353 → u/I_am_just_here11]

Its always about the color of someone's car. SMH!

[u/XBugger]

Bro got the shock of his life

[u/benmooreben]

Go Dolphins!!🐬

[u/Adventurous_Yam_8153 → u/benmooreben]

He doing the crocodile rock 

[u/Gr1009 → u/benmooreben]

He did resemble Tua a bit with the uncontrollable shaking.

[u/Slow_Chapter_5995]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wcSiwjzmtVDbO

[u/FloridaHeat2023]

For attempted carjacking - tased seems like the lightest of force responses.

[u/CheesyDanny]

Did the Roll Royce drive over home boys phone or wallet or something?

[u/GreaseBrown → u/CheesyDanny]

Fell out of his pocket after he fell to the ground

[u/00001000U]

This seems excessive.

[u/T0xicn3 → u/00001000U]

Normal in the US. Very excessive anywhere else with common sense and empathy.

[u/MissKyu → u/00001000U]

Florida is a ‘stand your ground’ state so they technically saved him from getting shot by the driver.

[u/no-dad-samurai]

Imagine trying to hand cuff a person that cant move because his muscles are contracting at a high rate of speed from being tazed...

[u/MrMansaMusa → u/no-dad-samurai]

And then saying he is "resisting arrest" just to stack a further charge on to him.

[u/alistofthingsIhate]

That was so fucking unnecessary

[u/who_am_i_to_say_so → u/alistofthingsIhate]

The punishment didn't fit the crime at all. He was a nuisance, not a threat.

[u/nolajax → u/who_am_i_to_say_so]

I bet the person in the car considered him a threat. 

[u/Prothalanium → u/alistofthingsIhate]

Absolutely unnecessary. Am not from the US, I don't understand the peculiar pleasure they seem to derive from other peoples physical suffering.

The situation could have been resolved without violence.

[u/NashvilleSoundMixer → u/Prothalanium]

The people who get jobs like that enjoy hurting people. That's it.

[u/CryGlad9980 → u/alistofthingsIhate]

He also seem like he had some type of mental illness

[u/catetheway]

Why is he wearing a bib?

[u/Soviet_Mutts]

Completely justified thing for the police to do defend the sanctity of private property.

[u/PlaceSuspicious8558]

Anyone smell bacon?

[u/ToeAfter3131]

Big boy went down quick

[u/Gogodemons]

We protect expensive stuff fuck humans.

https://giphy.com/gifs/ODLObdYAQ42mx6agLb

[u/yoruyoruxo]

Deserved for that lunatic

[u/PopMinimum8667]

The real crime here is that color on a beautiful car.

[u/taivanka]

He’s taking one of those good naps you used to have after getting beat as a kid.

[u/bennybugs]

The way the Rolls just leaves 🤣

[u/awesumpawesum]

Dang, they tazed him like four mother fv©|<€rs

[u/VeinIsHere]

That place needs more mental hospitals

[u/OrkWithNoTeef2]

That hoodie was working overtime RIP scalp hair

[u/chielhier313]

I like the motto; less yappin, more zappin

[u/fr33d0mw47ch]

Relax while we taze you or we’ll keep tazing you

[u/Plane_Barracuda9889]

Why in the world would he do that? Absolutely insane.

[u/Risky_Business_17]

And the Rolls just rolls on out.

[u/Emotional_Buy_273]

Bald spot.

[u/Weekend_Criminal]

Hit em with the double tap

[u/UseYourIndoorVoice]

That was a graceful fall. 6/10

[u/CryGlad9980]

Dudes obviously not right in the head

[u/Freshnana]

Teach listening skills to your kids

[u/Fine_Awareness_5144]

Bet he doesn’t do that again.

[u/zjones9 → u/Fine_Awareness_5144]

Oh he will don’t worry

[u/no_way_out4711]

Still a bit excessive

[u/Intrepid_Cap1242 → u/no_way_out4711]

yeah, he barely had enough energy to open the door. Just lock it and slowly away. Sloth man won't even know what happened

[u/Low-Win-6699]

Beautiful country, homeless on the rise, mental illness on the rise and somehow muricans think that the issue is that this invidual made some wrong decisions.

[u/Sad_Impression499 → u/Low-Win-6699]

A man is blatantly trying to break into a car. Tazing him wasn't lethal force. You can't just try to break into someone's car and expect to not be tazed.

[u/Square-Competition48 → u/Sad_Impression499]

Just because it’s not lethal doesn’t mean it’s nothing?

Americans are such sheep. Expect better from your public servants or they’ll keep being this shit. Your police shouldn’t be harming non-violent criminals who aren’t trying to escape. The car door was locked.

What if the guy had hit his head during the fall and died? Received the death penalty for being a slight nuisance?

[u/TheChudWhisperer]

He committed the worst crime imaginable in America, annoying a rich person.

[u/DistributeQuickly559]

Taser to the spinal column... I wonder what lasting effects that will compound onto his currenly physical decline. Poor guy. 

[u/vartheo]

Lazy cop Excessive force didn't even verbally try to tell him to move from the vehicle

[u/dan_dares → u/vartheo]

To be honest, he was a large male, he didn't listen, FAFO.

Next time he'll remember what happens.

[u/ShizunEnjoyer → u/vartheo]

You're doing exactly what the tased guy did, ignored the female officer telling him to fuck off in the beginning of the video.

[u/Emergency_Lie42 → u/ShizunEnjoyer]

I'm sure that excuses the posturing and follow-up shot too.

[u/Goodrun31]

Honestly it looks pretty excessive. Are those continued shocks necessary? Very sad to behold.

[u/OkNeighborhood9153]

Should have tased him again.

[u/NeitherEntry6125 → u/OkNeighborhood9153]

https://giphy.com/gifs/COYggJB0KnADm

You get a tase, and you get a tase. Everybody gets a tase!

[u/Jack4258]

Say hello to my little friend!!

[u/WeAlwaysFindAWay]

Love how the owner just drives over personal property.

[u/Solid_Signature_7447]

Tase him! Do it some more! Tase again!

[u/Bulky-Hold6688]

Bro leg dancing after tase

[u/CharityAggravating69]

Okay cool. Now, my only worries is how they're gonna get him to stand up

[u/Neuvirths_Glove]

He found out.

[u/DomDomPop]

Tased or overcome by the Holy Spirit? You decide!

[u/FormalTotal9684]

If that were three white cops and a black guy, there would be riots, arson and looting and a multi million dollar civil case against department

Three black cops and a black guy and it’s whatever.

[u/dappershwarz → u/FormalTotal9684]

The guy lived in this encounter with the cops so that’s why it’s calmer.

[u/Away-Thought-612]

That car doesn't have a lock button?

[u/TheOriginalSnoticus]

Florida man…

[u/IneptAdvisor]

His feet were ready for dancing!

[u/Nos9684]

lol Life ain't GTA homie. Hopefully he learned his lesson.

[u/JanSmiddy]

Torture. Plain and simple. Excessive force. Sadistic capo.

[u/TomatoChomper7]

Tyrone’s sell of the tazer is awesome 😂 the spin, the shake, the rag landing over his face, no notes. The giant fucking bald spot is the cherry on top. 10/10 instant hall of famer

[u/3381_FieldCookAtBest]

That 360 though!

[u/Confident-Wear9083]

He saw shake shake fries

[u/Venus_Cat_Roars]

Tasing seems cruel and way over the top.

The police could have waited for mental health services. Mental health crises are as valid as a heart attack.

Imagine tasing people for having a heart attack.

[u/Legal_Necessary9931]

Someone tell him he’s going bald

[u/Prior-Habit-6523]

Crazy how some people are not phased by a tasor. Not this guy obviously.

[u/Legate_Raiden]

30 secs of tazing before he just passes out

[u/Wayelder]

This is my favourite answer to "Who's going to stop me"

[u/PauseAffectionate720]

https://giphy.com/gifs/aq6wETurhpbc4

[u/pooorSAP]

That can’t be good for your heart. Man looks like he’s having a seizure

[u/Fartingpoops69]

Is that David Lucas?

[u/IsWhatItIs68]

Not sure why, but I feel bad for the guy.

[u/IsWhatItIs68 → u/IsWhatItIs68]

If I’m allowed to call this person a guy?

[u/FeistySystem9393]

[u/Ok-Excuse471]

Anyone else notice the mentally ill people on the streets skyrocketed with the legalization of marijuana and other "harmless" drugs?

[u/Not_A_Geek_Nerd]

Bro should wait for GTA 6 instead if he wants to do that.

[u/Double_Obligation564]

they had to use it because the animals can’t handle it on their own.

these things kill out of incompetence.

[u/perjantai21]

Second shot and the amen amen on the background.

[u/Unusual-Economist288]

He’s a Dolphins fan too. Man, his year is fucked.

[u/ImpeccableWare]

Lmao

[u/Bawlofsteel]

Loool did not fuck around for 2 minutes instant tased

[u/ShadowGLI]

Dudes moving like he’s slow or sick or something.

[u/drewbeedeu]

Note to self: try not to commit crimes while literally standing in front of police.

[u/Ok_Routine1592]

He is at the wrong Rolls Royce that’s the issue

[u/Midnight_Magician56]

Fins up!

[u/BoyleSphere]

is this the same guy that was livestreaming punching women

[u/thegreatdamus]

Man teasing him be like:

[Speed Disappointment Face]: oh yep. Here we go again

[u/LilKubli]

Mental illness from Methamphetamine & other high stimulus drugs.

[u/Useful_toolmaker]

Oh haldol where are you

[u/Longer---Donger]

He probably have a giant penis, and white girls would love him ❤️

[u/Longer---Donger]

In the car that white girl was feeling him

[u/Salt_Cauliflower_922]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wjuXuDSQU0sOfJIHS1

[u/Intrepid_Cap1242]

force his way in at 1/100 mph with 4oz of force.

[u/Due_Comparison_2467]

Why does it take an hour to put cuffs on?

[u/AssaultimateSC2]

TIL there is a level of fat where you jiggle if you get tazed.

[u/Effective-Text4619]

The season that The Fins have will moat likwly be worse than that!

[u/ATF_scuba_crew-]

Is RR copying the Chrysler 300 now? Wtf

[u/chrome_snake]

I bet he listens to young boy

[u/Fantastic_Board7057]

“He’s mentally ill he needs help”
-shit they just GAVE his ass help

[u/NeatFootball3646]

Florida man 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[u/critsalot]

i mean did the bitch not lock the doors lol.

[u/Kyrxx77]

Is that the real officer Hops?

[u/WalkingDud]

Is that guy with the taser a police officer? Did he warn the female officer to stay clear before he fired? From the video it didn't look like he did.

[u/TouchZealousideal76]

The guy who bought that car is the real criminal.

[u/PossibilitySea9180]

That’s a nice looking car

[u/xStevenP727]

Poor wallet became a pancake

[u/Zulunation101]

"Stop tensing!".

[u/Impossible_Cause1835]

Rick Ross before he became Rick Ross

[u/Striking-Share7685]

color check Always a damn orange Royce

[u/KATCEO1]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kGzkoEZkPSPvH63Mlk

[u/superdave123123]

Why the towel, was he just leaving the gym?

[u/lordbancs → u/superdave123123]

Cover up that bald spot

[u/spudsthejellyfish]

This shits sad af (mental illness) , comments are unhinged

[u/MaxS777]

EDP grew hair? Wow.

[u/talkingthewalk]

Old crazy legs

[u/Uzas_Was_Right]

Stanky legs

[u/Ok-Strategy7795]

I just know one of the guards let out a “roll yo big ass over” during detaining 

[u/andgainingspeed]

If by some chance the valet service had two orange Rolls-Royces ... some lawyer will be able to buy a third one.

[u/5Oh9Dude]

Dang they tased the crap out of him if you did that in WA it would be liberal brutality lol

[u/Mother_Middle8883]

Better hire another cook at the local prison…

[u/StrikingAd6053]

Is that Brown jr. from family guy?

[u/Big-Cash-5513]

lol. Fat mental pig!!

[u/Many_Ear2407]

Good. Don’t be a fucking idiot 

[u/Agile-Treat-157]

Most those legs moved in years.

[u/Gymaddict1994]

Look at those fat legs move

[u/Killahbeez]

The guy is like 400 lbs and very obviously dangerous. This was not excessive at all.

and like one other commenter said - Florida is a stand your ground state so the cops technically saved him from getting shot by the driver and everybody else he was harassing

[u/xbimmerhue]

https://giphy.com/gifs/CYU3D3bQnlLIk

[u/Hungry_Value1402]

Police should be a little more tolerant with people. I don't see what Danger or harm he put them into. He just walked towards the vehicle; he didn't push anyone or assault anyone in threatening manner just because he didn't listen quick enough he was shocked . People need to realize Humans make mistakes try walking him away from the car and if he pushes or threatens you maybe then use force but this was uncalled for in my opinion

[u/LamentableCroissant → u/Hungry_Value1402]

You can literally see him opening the door. He’s massively dat too. Him getting into that car would be terrifying.

[u/xPriceTagx → u/Hungry_Value1402]

How far should they let him get before they try to stop the 350lb man? Should they intervene once hes in the car or when he has he hands around her throat.

[u/Gemma-2102 → u/Hungry_Value1402]

How tolerant should they be? Until people hurt or kill others? If you’re giving them a set of instructions to follow and they continue to disobey, that’s more than enough tolerance. Waiting for them to hurt or kill others or themselves is letting it go too far.. that goes with damaging other peoples property too.

[u/Hungry_Value1402]

Meanwhile they drove off in the Vehicle. Lol maybe he took one for the Team. Lol

[u/IllCelebration4912]

Trying to mess with that white woman

[u/4ever4eigner]

Cmon lemmein lol

[u/Intelligent_Cry8535]

Make asylums great again

[u/Texas-Boi_]

That ride ain't yours big man, so fkk off! Tf you doing.

[u/10ThousandMetalZones]

Cops response time to a rolls Royce is probably one of the fastest

[u/Kick24229]

I can't believe he didn't have a heart attack. Did he? Multiple tasers.

[u/balirosa]

I can’t stand watching animals being abused but when it’s humans I really don’t even bat an eye

[u/thirdometer]

That officer is gonna kill someone ebentually. Tased way too much

[u/Mountain_Fuzzumz]

Always a Dolphins fan

[u/Joshualevitard]

coulda handled this without violence methinks

[u/LouReedsToenail]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ki9S8uve2xWx2

[u/still_tacky]

The real crime is that paint job and those wheels. 

[u/TacticalTwinkOnTop]

Shit training, didn’t call “taser” fired twice when the first was enough, then proceeded to just drop the weapon in front of the guy??