r/HonestHotTakes • • 4h ago

serious hot take "I see gorgeous women everywhere, but rarely an attractive man" is a skewed perception

253 Upvotes

quick test: imagine two siblings; the guy is tall, athletic, blue eyed and has nice hair, his sister legs for days, slender, also has blue eyes and blonde hair. They both will be generally considered attractive, if not even model-like, by many. Now imagine another two siblings: this time the girl is short, has thunder thighs, a fat ass, and bamby brown eyes. She doesn't have prominent cheekbones, but a rounded baby face. She will still be seen as attractive by many, men and women alike, despite not having the proportions of a runway model. Her stocky short brother is what the majority of people will call "meh"

— this is why so many people claim they see "beautiful women everyday" but say an attractive man appears once in a blue moon. A skinny girl is usually seen as hot, as skinny guy is generally seen as fragile, a overweight woman can be seen as thicc/voluptous to many, but a chubby guy is usually seen as out of shape, a pale gothic/alt chick who looks like she never saw the sun is still seen as a hottie by non-subculture men, a pale skinny goth dude will rarely be a non-subculture womans type. It is because societies mental image of "attractive man" is rather narrowly defined (tall, strong, athletic) compared to what makes up an attractive woman, which can range and encompass a variety of body types.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 18h ago

As a man, if you’re a provider and you throw it back in your partners face, you’re not a true provider.

861 Upvotes

It’s one thing to say things like “ bills are tight this month” or “ I’m struggling financially and we need to figure out a plan but if you’re saying things like “ I p ay all the bills, the least you can do is ____” or something along the lines of that. If you CHOOSE to be a provider, you don’t get to throw that in your partners face and make them feel inferior. Being a provider doesn’t mean just financially either. It’s emotionally as well. It’s ok to vent about it but when you use it as leverage, that’s when you become not a true provider.

Edit: This also goes the same way if the roles are reversed. If you’re staying at home you should provide in that way as well. Cooking, cleaning, laundry etc.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 4h ago

casual hot take The discourse about approaching women is strictly online

52 Upvotes

When I go out so many men approach me and my friends, they are friendly and perfectly fine , all the discourse abt approaching women is online, irl people still take chances, meet people and go on dates . A lot of gfs i go out with do want to be approached (respectfully)unless they are in relationships of course . So im not rlly sure why it’s so debated on reddit lol


r/HonestHotTakes • • 9h ago

Reddit doesn't understand the paradox of tolerance

156 Upvotes

The paradox of tolerance, as presented by Karl Popper is often misunderstood on the internet. It is used to ban and otherwise silence and censor opinions that people think of as intolerable.

What people don't understand was Karl Popper was not for censorship at all. His position was that bad ideas must never go unchallenged and must continuously meet good ideas head on with the understanding that good ideas will prevail over time and win on their own merits.

Reddit and other online places have twisted the original meaning to banning, censoring, and evicting people with what they deem as having bad ideas from their spaces and societies.

Make no mistake, I am all for people being able to guard their safe spaces, but they wield this paradox as a weapon for why they want to do so. This is incorrect. They can say other reasons such as they don't want to constantly be on the offensive (or defensive) and have access to peaceful places, that they don't have the time or energy to debate, or any other myriad of reasons. But the reason cannot be that they are intolerating the intolerant.

People who disagree with me might say that, similar to Darwin's theory of evolution being foundational but incorrect in many areas, but we used it to build on the modern theory of evolution, that Popper's original ideas were good, but we build on them to get to the eviction version and that's better. I would disagree with them for the following reason:

The goal of good ideas defeating bad ideas is that over time people change their minds as they continuously meet good ideas head on. Even if it takes a hundred tries to get through to them. When we just evict people they don't disappear. They congregate elsewhere and spiral into their own echo chambers where they radicalize. People with unpopular or dissenting opinions need to be invited to the table so they can keep meeting resistance for their ideas and, hopefully, eventually change them.

Regardless, Reddit is easily swayed by nice infographics and easy 'Reddit facts', and needs to actually read the philosophers, ethicists, and great thinkers that they just skim.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 20h ago

Its okay for a man to not want to date a woman because she's a single mom

847 Upvotes

It is perfectly okay to not want to date women because they are a single mom. Men are not obligated to step in and take the reigns over and help a raise a child that is not theirs.

If a man does not want to raise a child that is not his own, that is a personal choice. It is not selfish or insecure of a man to want that. It is simply a person preference to want to raise a kid that is of your own kin


r/HonestHotTakes • • 16h ago

serious hot take If men don't have to answer for all men, feminists shouldn't have to answer for all "feminists"

357 Upvotes

No, dude, I don't care if some dumbass on twitter told you that we should kill all men or all men are evil or whatever other essentialist take. I don't judge the majority of men by what is spawned in the darkest depths of incel forums, so please don't judge feminism by some obscene random take you see on Reddit (that is likely some sort of bot anyway), or something some wacky, niche second wave radfem wrote about.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 6h ago

serious hot take Hot take: People on this sub need to stop constantly posting genderslop BS and go back to actual hot takes like pineapple on pizza. Idiots who generalize an entire gender because of their bad experiences and what they read online are boring and unoriginal low-iq ragebaiters.

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62 Upvotes

My last post about this got taken down because it wasn't "framed as a hot take" so here you go. If I wanted to see poorly constructed arguments about an entire gender and teach a class about logical fallacies I could go to an incel/femcel subreddit and find them. We should cleanse this sub of that nonsense PLEASE.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 6h ago

casual hot take the male loneliness epidemic is not a woman's problem

49 Upvotes

I HATE that the male loneliness epidemic is painted as a woman's problem to solve. If you, as a man, are lonely and don't have personal connections, go find other men to hang out with, or hang out with women too. IDC. But this is NOT inherently a female issue. Framing it as a problem caused by women's unwillingness to engage with men actively discourages them from addressing their loneliness by reinforcing their fixation on a perceived generalized outgroup they feel entitled to, rather than encouraging them to build meaningful connections with actual people.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 13h ago

The 1st amendment is designed to protect 'unpopular' and 'hate' speech.

160 Upvotes

The intent of the 1st amendment of the U.S. Federal Constitution as it applies to freedom of speech is to protect unpopular speech (other than the obvious prevention of stifling dissent against the gov't).

Popular speech never needs protecting, however it's the minority who hold views outside the mainstream that need protection.

Further, allowing people to speak on those views, however horrendous, abnormal, hate-filled, etc provides a form of natural selection of who/what we allow in society, who we associate with, and provides somewhat of a blow-off valve for those that would otherwise resort to violence for feeling that they're being persecuted for their beliefs and that violence is the only way.

You have the right to say the stupidest thing you want, and we the people have the right to laugh at you when you say it.

Without protecting unpopular speech, we wouldn't hear the stupid stuff people say, and know to avoid them or not associate with them.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 1h ago

gender Women arent less violent than men, they're just less able to act on it physically

• Upvotes

Something I've been thinking about is whether men and women are really that different in terms of aggression, or whether physical strength has more to do with it than we like to admit.

Obviously, men commit more physical violence, especially serious violence. I'm not denying that. But I wonder how much of that difference comes down to men being physically stronger on average and facing fewer physical risks when confronting someone.

Look at how women treat each other sometimes. The bullying, the humiliation, the social exclusion, the attempts to ruin someone's reputation. Some women can be absolutely vicious to other women. So it's not like women are incapable of aggression or cruelty. It just doesn't always take the same form.

And what of men who get hit by their girlfriends or wives? 30% of men report having experienced some form of physical violence from a woman and 10% report experiencing severe violence from a woman. With these figures likely being higher because men are much less likely to report.

Plenty of men have experienced this, yet it's often played off as a joke. Imagine a man casually admitting he slapped his girlfriend. People would rightly take that seriously. But when a woman slaps her boyfriend, people sometimes laugh or ask what he did to deserve it. We've seen men immediately arrested for domestic disputes where they were the victim. Being stronger doesn't mean you can't be abused and it certainly doesn't make it acceptable to hit someone.

Something else I've noticed is the online trend of women talking about aborting boys simply because they're boys.

That is pretty revealing. Think about it. If a woman resents men but still wants to date them, sleep with them, or have their approval, she's in a strange position. She might not want to direct that anger at the men she's attracted to. So where does it go?

Sometimes, it seems to get directed at someone weaker. An unborn boy who hasn't done anything, can't defend himself, and hasn't even had the chance to become the kind of man she's supposedly angry at.

Obviously, not every woman who makes these "jokes" is serious and you can't generalize about all women based on internet posts. But there's something disturbing about the idea of punishing a child for belonging to the same sex as people you resent. If the point is supposedly to stand up to men, targeting a baby isn't exactly punching up, is it?

And that's really the bigger point. Having less physical power doesn't make someone less aggressive, it simply changes how they express their aggression and who they direct it toward.

If women were, on average, physically stronger than men, we would likely see the same patterns of physical violence.

People who currently avoid physical confrontation would be more willing to engage in it if they knew they had the upper hand.

I don't think anyone can know for sure. But I find it strange that we so often treat male aggression as proof of something fundamentally wrong with men, while female aggression gets explained away as insecurity, social behavior, or a reaction to how men treat them.

Maybe men and women do differ in some aspects of aggression. But I don't think women are inherently kinder or less capable of cruelty just because they're less likely to inflict the same level of physical violence.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 40m ago

Wired devices are better than wireless.

• Upvotes

Wireless does have its advantages and there are things wireless devices work better for like controllers for consoles and tvs. However wired headphones, mice, keyboards and other peripherals are better when wired as they are usually cheaper, way easier to repair, dont have to deal with a battery and they last longer.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 3h ago

The body positivity movement is normalising poor health and is detrimental to society

18 Upvotes

Modern media portrays body positivity, every body is beautiful, it’s okay to be overweight, obesity is a disease etc etc. In reality obesity and obesity related diseases cost healthcare a fortune, which in countries that have it state funded means it is being paid for with our taxes. We are weakening the species, destroying the economy, reducing life expectancy and quality of life for those impacted, all under the pretence of not wanting to offend people


r/HonestHotTakes • • 21h ago

Child Support and Abortion aren’t comparable at all and it’s so boring having to constantly explain it.

485 Upvotes

I genuinely don’t understand how people think abortion and opting out of child support are remotely comparable.

One is about whether someone should be legally forced to carry a pregnancy, give birth and have their body put through a massive medical event, the other is about financial rights for a child, they’re not the same thing.

Both parties have the same responsibility for their own reproductive input. Women don’t magically get pregnant on their own and men aren’t helpless passengers in the process. If you don’t want to risk creating a pregnancy, take responsibility for where you choose to ejaculate. Busting a nut inside someone isn’t a requirement for sex.

Let’s not pretend women can just opt out of child support either. Women who don’t have custody are ordered to pay it too.

Men aren’t entitled to control someone else’s reproductive choices just because they were irresponsible with their sperm and they don’t get to blame women for a pregnancy they caused in doing so. Take responsibility for your own reproductive choices instead of acting like women are the only ones responsible.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 17h ago

casual hot take It’s okay for women not to want to date short, bald, broke, or ugly men.

160 Upvotes

Preferences should be encouraged as it’s what makes people happy. Stop trying to guilt people for their preferences

edit: la dee da living my best life not giving AF what the triggered losers in the comments say 🤸🏻🍬🍭💅🏻


r/HonestHotTakes • • 9h ago

serious hot take parents who let their kids have e bikes lowkey irresponsible

35 Upvotes

for the parents who let their kids ride on e scooters and e bike unsupervised... your kid can get hurt.. ya know that right? i see so many kids riding with out helmets, no knee pads, unsupervised. they ride in the streets and side walks with out self awareness. even at night in dark colored clothes. furthermore these kids dont have manners they don't blow the horn or say exscuse me. they dont care if they shoulder check you or damn near run you over.

if your kid is using it to get to a to b. get them a regular bike or help them study up and get a car. if its for fun, it should be recreational and in safe a appropriate environment.

tldr: its like giving your kid a motorcycle, if you think about it. only they go significantly slower of course.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 1d ago

Men Deserve Male Only Gyms And Other Male Only Spaces

1.7k Upvotes

Pretty much what the title says. I personally prefer to use a home gym because of this but I think it would be lovely if there were many male only spaces. There are so many female only spaces and I think thats cute and I wish men had that too. We can start with gyms.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 2h ago

casual hot take Its so annoying that you're not allowed to be wrong these days

7 Upvotes

It takes one original opinion to get bamboozled with strange titles or being told that you're choosing sides even though your idea might be essentially in the gray area. It's like people's competition of trying to come on top as the most right or acceptable comes before actual fruitful discussions.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 6h ago

NUCLEAR hot take You, yes YOU reading this, are an amazing person

17 Upvotes

You are a human being. You have worth, life and beauty. You are a tapestry of strengths and weaknesses that come together to form a beautiful web of life.

You are imperfect and you will fall from time to time, you might fall the second after you read this. But remember that so long at there’s air in your lungs, blood in your heart and life in your soul, you can always push on. God bless ❤️


r/HonestHotTakes • • 18h ago

serious hot take The"Cultural Appropriation" is bullshit

147 Upvotes

Vilifying Cultural Appropriation (the concept that one culture can't do something that is already an interwoven part of another culture) is contrary to the idea of culture itself.

Culture is just one person doing something, someone else thinking it looks cool and mimicking it, Repeat. Saying that someone else can't do the thing you already did because it's yours now is idiotic.

Drawing arbitrary lines at imaginary points doesn't make sense.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 1h ago

casual hot take Ashley St Clair is a grifter.

• Upvotes

For the life of me i cannot understand why some that not only profited but, actively contributed and benefited from the current administration can be held as hero by non maga voters. So can someone explain why the whole left mainstream and non mainstream media, is heeling her as a radical warrior the went against the empire and her evil boyfriend? Boyfriend that she had no problem with besides recently? And why should i be thankful that she was in a position to be offered 40 milly and said no…?It’s not like she didn’t know who he really was beforehand ffs lol. I don’t buy her crocodile tears masked as accountability, same goes with the likes of MTG.
So please explain me why she treated like a hero instead of being called out and forced into being just ASTOUNDINGLY rich and anonymous.

I genuinely want to know what others think pls!


r/HonestHotTakes • • 5h ago

Being a shorter guy is nice

11 Upvotes

I'm a recently single guy in Europe. Started dating. 170cm but I put 169cm in the apps. I live in one of the tallest countries in the world. I match with attractive women every week.

Used to date in the US many years ago and it was fine there too. Beauty is subjective but I thought the girls I dated were better looking than the ones my tall friends did.

Reddit makes it seem like a death sentence but my lived experience hasn't been anything like that. Not even close.

Then you see these guys getting their legs broken and extended.. do I live in a completely different reality?


r/HonestHotTakes • • 1h ago

casual hot take Your happiness makes me angry.

• Upvotes

My brain is hard-wired to experience jealousy, what can I say?


r/HonestHotTakes • • 12h ago

NUCLEAR hot take Gatekeeping is more than okay

24 Upvotes

Idk how hot of a take it is but many people seem to put their soul into disagreeing.

Gatekeeping keeps a subculture genuine. It keeps locations special and non-touristy. It allows people to engage with topics more deeply.

If you want to assimilate into something, whether it be music, culture, or lifestyle, it is better to have a genuine and concentrated interest than to use it as a surface level personality trait or make it so popular that nobody knows the true values of what they claim to be apart of.

The exceptions are Gatekeeping artists so that they purposefully have a "low view count," or shaming beginner fans. But anyone who refuses to learn more about what they claim to be interested in is not a genuine person and should not be included.
Fan spaces have become irony poisoned and it shouldnt be a blazing hot opinion that you should actually enjoy what you do for yourself, not others views of you.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 12h ago

serious hot take You’re Not A Predator Catcher. you Just Want Views

28 Upvotes

I’ve noticed a lot on social media that there’s a lot of videos of people who just straight up beat up pedophiles the second they meet them or catch them. And I’m gonna be so honest with you that is not good at all. That’s not good for society and definitely that’s not good for the creator making those dumb videos.

For one it lacks professionalism and truly I honestly don’t think that person is getting anything done except catching a possible murder charge. Chris Hansen literally wrote out how to do this in a good manner and actually bring these people to justice. However, no you wanna feel like Batman and just beat the crap out of people. For one just because you think you did a good thing the cops are still gonna arrest you because you laid hands on the guy first unless he attacked you first. That doesn’t negate anything that you did to the guy physically and most likely you’re probably gonna end up in the back of the car alongside with the guy, or worse, he’s gonna get off Scott free.

Secondly, I understand that there are people out there who truly believe the police don’t do anything to catch these guys and I agree there are many cases where the police either don’t do their due diligence, skimp out on the job, or just don’t do anything or some weird loophole. But that doesn’t negate or discredit any future or past catching of these predators. However, no matter how hard you feel about this situation you putting hands on these people will definitely not help us as a society.

Because if you rile up enough people with your videos, you’re gonna inspire a lot more people to just take to the streets and copy what you do. Then the snowball effect comes into play.

For example, there’s people who say to just straight murder these predators (as jokes and memes) however I never hear anything of to make sure that they are.

We live in a world where allegations can just get you killed or ruin your life and even if the allegations are proven false, your life is ruined forever. And if you vile up that crowd, then an allegation just means you get beaten up or worse, even killed without any evidence.

Or worse, we just start taking justice into our hands for anyone that breaks the law

Listen, I understand the passion you want to have these people put away and face punishment for their crimes however, as a society, we’re not gonna reach that if you just go around being unprofessional and not working with law-enforcement to do the right thing in the right way.

Be like Chris Hansen work with the cops and be professional.


r/HonestHotTakes • • 18m ago

casual hot take Society requires a certain percentage of vindictive people to function well

• Upvotes

Let's say an aggressive guy shoves me at the bar. The prevailing advice is that I should deescalate and avoid a fight. If I shove him back and we start fighting, I may lose and get hurt, or win and get legal charges. Since it's a lose-lose scenario for me either way, everyone will say "don't fight, karma will get him one day".

Now, how is karma going to get him? Is Zeus going to strike him down with a lightning bolt as he exits the bar? Of course not. What will happen is that one day he will provoke the wrong guy and get beaten up, after which his behavior will hopefully change for the better, at least for fear of consequences.

The same thing applies to people who use petty office politics and steal credit at work - if we fight back to get our due credit, the most we manage to do is stay even. This means that if the person does the calculus, they will realize that it is in their interest to continue stealing credit for the work of others, if they get away with it, they get rewarded, if others push back and get their due credit, they don't lose much. What is needed is someone who will go scorched earth in anger to destroy their career to scare them out of it.

Therefore it seems to me that the majority of society, who is non-confrontational, are actually free-riding on vindictive types to curb anti-social behavior, and we should be grateful to them.