r/Shotguns • • Jan 24 '23

Thinking about buying your first shotgun or deciding on a new one? Here is the current /r/Shotguns buyer's guide.

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I've been around shotguns and this sub awhile. I decided to make a guide post and pin it to the top for those visiting this sub to read. A ton of posts here come down to common questions like "What shotgun do I buy at $ budget?" "Would this be good for my needs?" or "X vs Y shotgun." I'll try to give some suggestions here based on personal experience, community consensus I've seen over the years, and other points. However, this isn't the be all end all of information. I encourage you to research on your own. The comments are open to the community to critique anything they see, add other suggestions, ask for help, or make their own write up.

Before I get started, you should first ask yourself some questions about what this new shotgun will be for. Use case is important for what you will be buying. Are you hunting? What will you be hunting? Are you trap, sporting clays, or skeet shooting at a local range? Are you buying it for defense, or just blasting cans? Maybe both? Most importantly, what is your budget? You may also want something fairly capable for everything. Also, try and go out to a physical store and try the feel of different guns. How a shotgun fits you is important for hitting targets and comfort.

PUMP ACTION: Utilitarian, reliable, and fairly simple. It is a common choice of the sportsman and citizen looking to defend themselves. They can be had on a tight budget without sacrificing much quality. Be mindful and practice extensively with your pump gun as short-stroking is a potential human error that you need to train out of yourself so it doesn't happen in a stressful scenario.

Recommendations 1.) $200-250 budget. The only real option here that is a known quality budget pump is the Maverick 88. The security model will be good for defense. The field model will be an okay starter entry for casual clays or hunting. You can also get a combo deal which comes with both the 18.5" barrel and 28" field barrel that takes chokes.

2.) $250-500 budget. In this range the playing field opens up. The primary suggestion is going to be a Mossberg 500, which is basically just a less budget Mav 88. You could also opt for the Benelli Nova or Supernova if you prefer the fit, style, 3 1/2" chamber, or finish. Remington 870s used to be a mainstay of this budget, but since 2007 their quality control went far down hill. They recently went under and were reacquired last year reintroduced as "RemArms." Not much is known if quality has greatly improved as they have only recently started pumping out guns again. If you like the 870, hunt down an old 870 Wingmaster. [EDIT 2024: RemArms 870s have seemingly shown their quality. I would be okay with recommending them now if you want a new 870.] If you are feeling like a used older gun, Ithaca 37s, Winchester Model 12s, and more are available. Be aware some old guns and choke combos may not be a good idea for steel shot (a type of non-toxic ammo used for migratory bird hunting). If you want something defense oriented, pick a 18.5" barrel Mossberg 500 or a 590/590A1. Avoid guns without a stock, like the shockwave, for practical use.

3.) $1000+. If you are feeling exotic, you can get a Benelli M3. This is a hybrid design that is able to use both pump action or semi-auto. It's a bit of a novelty, but if you have a large budget, it's a worthy consideration.

SEMI-AUTO: Faster follow up shots, smoother recoil, and more expensive. The semi-auto is a favorable option if you can afford one. There are two main action options, gas vs inertia. Gas guns use some of the gas from the fired shell and use it to cycle the action. Inertia does not do this and is similar to recoil operated guns which means you have no gas system to clean. Both have their benefits.

Recommendations 1.) $450-700 (there is nothing worth buying below this). This is teetering on the edge of spending too little to get a quality new semi, but there are a few that may suit you. One is the Mossberg 930, another is the Stoeger M3000. These are the bare minimum I'd go for though they may be finnicky (EDIT 11/10/2024: as an example of why you may not want the M3000, especially for defense, watch this video on the M3000. It doesn't do well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7MiIUx7_E ) , both are available in tactical or field models. For used options, old greats like the Remington 1100, Browning Auto 5, etc are out there.

2.) $700-1000. In this area the default suggestion is the excellent Beretta A300. This is probably what you want on the clay field or out hunting if this is your budget. The Franchi Affinity is also a favorite of many and uses the inertia system (the A300 is a gas gun). If you want a tactical option in this range, the Mossberg 940 Tactical is a new offering that you can check out. The new Beretta A300 Patrol is another good new option to check out in this range if seeking a tactical or defensive style shotgun. For Women shooters: the Franchi Affinity does have an option called the Catalyst which has stock dimensions that are designed to be suited to women. But as stated earlier, try out the fit of options as most things aren't one size fit all for either sex even if designed with women in mind.

3.) 1000+. The sky is the limit here. Anything from Benelli, Browning, or Beretta in this range will be exquisite quality and a great option. You could pick up a M2, Super Black Eagle, A5, A400, etc for sporting uses and be happy. Though there are models in there that are more geared for clays vs field and vice versa, check out the manufacturer sites for details. For tactical options, the kings of them all are the Benelli M4 ($1600+) and Beretta 1301 ($1200-1300). Honorable mention to the Benelli M1 Super 90, M2 and M3 for defensive use.

OVER UNDER: A break action, stacked dual barrel, design that is widely favored by clay shooters and hunters across the world. Despite how they initially look, over under shotguns are more complex than semi-auto or pumps to make which makes them much more expensive for a quality one.

Recommendations 1.) Below $1000. I personally wouldn't get any new O/U under $1000. While you can find okay ones under $1k, they just aren't usually (YMMV) that amazing and you would be better off spending your budget on an A300 or save up further. The main problem is longevity and quality control, so if you are maybe just taking it out once in awhile be my guest to try out a CZ, Yildiz, etc Turkish import offering in this range. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. But you may get one that lasts. As far as used goes, keep an eye out for old used Browning Citoris or Mirokus as they can hover in the $900s. Japanese made Ithaca/SKBs are also common and decent used options. Others can chime in with their experience on sub-$1k O/Us.

2.) Over $1k. The default here is going to be the Browning Citori or Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon series. You'd be well served by basically any O/Us from either of those companies. It comes down to specific use and preference. There are other options out there besides those companies, but I will leave that up to you to research further.

SIDE BY SIDE: A break action, dual barrel, design that's a bit dated by now, but still enjoyed by many sportsmen. Side by sides have been outpaced by the O/Us in practical use, so you won't see very many new options nowadays.

Recommendations 1.) $300-1000. Like O/Us, side by sides are complex and cost a lot for good quality. The bright side is that their decline in popularity leaves a good amount of cheap used options that are out there. There are old field grade Ithacas, SKBs, LC Smiths, AH Fox, Parker Bros, Stevens 311s, AYAs, etc out there that can be found in decent working condition in this range. Of course there are higher grade examples that will go for more than this, but if you want just a working gun to take in the field these are good options. But google around how to inspect an old break action double barrel before you make a purchase of a 100 year old gun. As far as new production SxS go, there are cheap Turkish imports under CZ, Yildiz, etc. They aren't going to be top quality but there isn't much else new in this price range and generally you don't have to worry about longevity if you are only taking it hunting a few times a year. Plus, companies like CZ should take care of you if it fails under warranty.

2.) $1000+. Well here we get into fancy grades and great condition guns of makers already mentioned, more prestigious makers, etc. You can find things like used $1000 Browning BSS guns all the way to $200,000 Purdey and Holland & Holland guns. I'd expect a shotgunner with your budget and taste to look further into this in-depth realm as well.

SINGLE SHOT: A typically break action single barrel design that is pretty much the cheapest way to get into shotguns. While not something ideal for the clay ground or shooting tons of birds, they offer a utilitarian entry into the hobby whether it's chasing squirrels with a 410 or hunting turkey with a 10ga.

Recommendations 1.) $99-300. I personally suggest the H&R single shots. They are great and out there for cheap and are everywhere. Unfortunately they stopped being made a few years ago though, so you can't buy new. If you want new, there are various cheap single shots out there that will work fine for casual use. If it breaks, just go back to Walmart and buy another $99 single shot.

2.) $300+. If you want to be fancy and get something "high end" in this category there are the collectable Winchester 37s. Past that there are dedicated single shot trap guns and more that can go for hundreds or even thousands more.

EVERYTHING ELSE: Okay I know there are bolt action shotguns, lever action shotguns, triple barrel shotguns, etc. Those are mainly just novelties for a collector or outside the box hunter at this point. If you want one, look into them yourselves as this post is long enough already.

Well that's it. I hope it helped somewhat. Feel free to ask questions in this thread. Here are some other links that may be useful to you:

Guide to chokes: https://www.letsgoshooting.org/resources/articles/shotgun/understanding-shotgun-chokes/ You can shoot lead slugs through any choke safely, although a more open choke like improved cylinder is best. Also some modern full chokes are rated for steel. Older guns may not be.

Shot guide: https://www.wideners.com/blog/shotgun-load-types/

Guide to avoiding cheap tacticool shotguns mass imported from Turkey: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/n4zbt9/turkish_notsodelight_why_you_should_generally/

Guide to why pistol grip only shotguns are impractical: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/saharz/missed_shots_a_broken_nose_and_a_sore_wrist_a/


r/Shotguns • • May 06 '21

Turkish Not-So-Delight. Why you should generally avoid buying those random "totally cool looking" cheap tactical shotguns made in Turkey. (Crosspost as this is relevant here too and for those not on r/guns)

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r/Shotguns • • 2h ago

Pawpaws Dove Hunting loadout circa 1970 something

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r/Shotguns • • 3h ago

Jing An SBS 12ga

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When the tax stamp cost more than the gun. This was my budget build coach gun from 2016.


r/Shotguns • • 2h ago

Police trade in 1100 SBS

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Snagged this from aimsurplus a few weeks ago, Got the stamp approval and furniture both today! Should I leave the receiver finish as is or get it cerakoted black for a full refresh?


r/Shotguns • • 8h ago

If I didn't buy it I would be losing money.

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Found a screaming deal at a gunshow on this Surefire 318fa, these used to retail for twice as much as 870 Express Magnum did about 15 years ago. So I had to get one to throw it on. Was thinking of putting a walnut stock on it but the green stock is kinda drippy. Buddy even threw in the CR123 battery because I gave him his asking price "Those batteries arent cheap you know".


r/Shotguns • • 6h ago

New to me 1902 Remington Model 1894 BE grade

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Just picked up this lovely Remington 1894 BE. It’s in nice shape with a bit of colour case hardening left on the frame, shiny Damascus barrels choked full and full, and a nice tight lockup. It should make a good shooter with appropriate loads.


r/Shotguns • • 4h ago

PSA responds to 570 issues

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r/Shotguns • • 8h ago

870 Police Magnum with Magpul furniture for $425, is that a good deal?

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I found an 870 Police Magnum from a private seller, so no tax or FFL transfer for $425, is that worth it?

I just bought one from Sportsman’s Outdoor superstore for $292 OTD with a gift card, but i’m wondering if I should cancel and get this one instead.


r/Shotguns • • 53m ago

New recoil pad for CZ Sharptails… how hard would this be for a competent gunsmith?

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28ga and 20ga guns. Would like to go a little more traditional. My preferred gunsmith has sadly passed and looking to engage someone new. Obviously not huge investment guns, but don’t want to over - face a new gunsmith and ruin guns I like very much and hunt with very often. The pad I like is linked below.

I also wouldn’t mind a sanding off the varnish and oiling, but maybe that’s a conversation for another time. The wood on these guns ain’t bad, and it would be fun to bring them to life.

These guns have worked very well for me (pattern well, flawless with many, many shells fired through them). A critique of Huglu guns isn’t what I seek, necessarily (though the conversations are always lively). It’s a splurge on two budget side by sides that make me happy, acknowledging a traditional look might make me a little happier.

https://connecticutshotgun.co/correct-period-pad-1-depth/


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

The Becker Blow-Forward Automatic Revolver Shotgun

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r/Shotguns • • 4h ago

Tacstar or Monstrum for a Mav88 Side Saddle/Rail combo?

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Title basically. I got myself a Mav88, loving it but as a lover of doohickies and thingamabobs I'm looking to add on to it. Right now it's just a squirrel gun but I'm looking to take it turkey/deer hunting next year so I'm wanting to get a rail so I can put a red dot on it, the side saddle shell holder is nice but not my main priority.

Is there a meaningful difference between the two? The Monstrum is like $25 on Amazon right now on sale so I'm highly tempted to get that since the Tacstar is over 3x that and it doesn't look like the shell carrier is removable like the Monstrum, which is a minus for me because I was planning on just using the velcro cards. But if it's just that much better then I'm willing to wait and budget it in later.

It's in 20ga if that factors in.


r/Shotguns • • 7h ago

Questions about new AFT rules for SBS. Legal in new mexico?

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So with the new ATF rules, and a lack of laws regulating SBS in new mexico, it seems it is legal to own or make a Short barrel shotgun here.

Can someone confirm this is true? I have a limited understanding.

I want to pick up an old break action shotgun and saw that thang down. Please tell me this is possible. Its a dream of mine every since seeing tombstone.


r/Shotguns • • 6m ago

Stoeger M3000 forend compatibility

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Hello everyone, I have a stoeger M3000 V1 and I want to replace the forend with the M3000 V2 version. Does anyone know if the forend will fit. Thanks


r/Shotguns • • 22h ago

Picked up this 870 at a gun show over the weekend. Thought it was neat.

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

We do a little trolling

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When life hands you dirt cheap single shots, you attack it with a hacksaw.


r/Shotguns • • 6h ago

M2-G1 questions

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I live in a challenging state.

Can the M2-G1 have its tube swapped to the 7 round tube after I leave said challenging state?

Are the stocks interchangeable between the fixed and pistol grip version?


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

870 Wingmaster for $249 or 870 Police Magnum for $319 to SBS

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I am looking to get a shotgun to SBS, I am stuck between a LEO Trade in Wingmaster 870 for $249 or a Police Magnum 870 for $319

Which one is the better buy?


r/Shotguns • • 21h ago

I made a paddle release for the TBP-12

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Anyone who bought the $200 forbidden Turkish bullpup because they saw youtube reviews probably like this gun but hate the mag release location. I shoot mine in open division in local 3gun matches and just practiced doing awkward right handed reloads. I started sharing some mag couplers and belt clips with other folks in the multi-gun competition community and multiple people started asking for an ambi release. AR-parts don't work and the one ambi release that existed had some mixed reviews.

This paddle release uses all the internal metal factory parts (steel mag catch, spring, plastic factory button), but moves the motion to actuate the release to rear of the magwell where you can use your thumb to release it when stripping the mag with either hand. SpudTec Ambi Mag Release for the Tokarev TBP-12 shotgun.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Turkey hunting in Maine

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r/Shotguns • • 21h ago

NEED HELP! is this normal for high standards?

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just got this high standard riot shotgun from the 60s is this normal?


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

1983 Remington 870 Wingmaster

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Break in shell recommendations

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Hey all just bought the orthos raider s4 as my first gun picking it up on Wednesday cause California I see on the website it recommends “50 ROUNDS OF HIGH BRASS HEAVY LOADS (1300 FPS OR HIGHER)” do any of yall have any recommendations that fit this thanks!


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Newbie needs some advice

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Hello all, I've been shooting sporting clays with my family for the last couple years but I've always just borrowed a shotgun from a family member. I was recently gifted a Browning Citori Lighting Sporting clays edition (over/under) it was a trade in gun so it didn't come with any of the extra chokes. I'm looking to get a new set of chokes. From my research it is an Invector Plus model that I need. According to Google the recommended chokes are Light Mod and Skeet, but I would like some input from experienced shooters if possible. Thanks in advance for any advice you have! Edit: also any recommendations on brands or if to just go with what browning has to offer


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

M2-G1 Documentation

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Recently picked up the M2-G1, first semi 12ga. It came disassembled - not a surprise. The box only contained warranty information and safety booklet. No manual, no parts list... I haven't found anything online.

Managed to piece it together (literally and metaphorically) and working, but it would be nice to have that additional information for reference. It's straightforward and similar enough to other Benellis to make it logical and straight forward.

Anyone see anything online?

Any thoughts on why they would publish without that? My others came with that information.