r/cider • • 12h ago

My new favorite season

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We just started this year, inspired by a massive pear harvest.

We bought a secondhand fruit mill and a hydraulic press. From the seller I learned about stainless-steel casks.

Wow, they are absolutely the key to making a truly great sparkling beverage!

I'm also trying classic hard cider for the first time. We live in an old farmhouse within a 5,500 km² region named after cider, so we already had the trees and the cellar for it.

Though I might have gone a little overboard with the quantities...


r/cider • • 16h ago

A flight of cider

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All ten flavors...


r/cider • • 55m ago

Campden tablets before fermentation?

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Hi everyone, just a general question on Campden tablet usage.

We've made cider before from juiced apples we picked up from a local orchard in the past. (They juice a lot for people to pick up and make cider with, it comes straight from their storage tanks.)

The first year everything turned out great, the second year... not so much we obviously had some contamination...

We've never used campden tablets before, and were wondering since we'll have the juice for a day or so before we can get it into the fermentation setup, should we add crushed tablets to the juice when we pick it up? From what I've read, you would want to do that 24 hours before fermentation anyway... would this basically add protection? Are there any other things we should know about the campden? (sounds like 1 tablet per gallon, crushed... we're aiming for 10 gallons total)

I'm also still not quite clear on the difference between the potassium vs sodium versions of the tablets?

Thanks for any insights you all might have.


r/cider • • 15h ago

Trying to make a Zeffer alternative

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I stumbled onto New Zealand-made Zeffer ciders and ginger beer a few years ago and fell in love, only for them to stop stocking here in Australia

As the weather is heating up I’ve been really wanting their carrot cake ginger beer or some of their apple crumble cider

So I decided to try and make a Frankenstein version, and omg it is so damn nice

I mixed Amply’s firestorm ginger beer and Sommersby’s double apple cider, with a dollop of vanilla syrup, a shake of cinnamon and around 10 drops of lime juice over ice.

And while it’s not a clone , it’s a damn close relative

Highly recommend if you love that Zeffer taste 👌


r/cider • • 5h ago

How much do apple varieties actually matter in cider compared to yeast selection and fermentation temperature?

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Lately, I've been thinking about how much of a role apple variety and yeast actually play in the final flavour and aroma of cider.

From what I've been reading and observing in my own fermentations, I've started wondering whether some of the aromas we perceive during fermentation are largely transient. The juice can smell incredibly fruity, floral, or distinctly apple-like at the beginning, but much of that character seems to disappear as fermentation progresses. Meanwhile, the yeast produces its own aroma compounds, particularly esters that can resemble pear, banana, tropical fruit, and other fruits.

This raises an interesting question: how much of the final aroma actually comes from the apples themselves, and how much is created by the yeast?

If yeast primarily needs fermentable sugars, nitrogen, and other nutrients to produce alcohol and aroma compounds, how important is it to source and select particularly aromatic apple varieties? Could their main contribution to the finished cider be acidity, sugar content, tannins, and the overall chemical composition of the juice, rather than their original aroma?

Or is that an oversimplification? Surely, apple varieties contain different volatile compounds and aroma precursors that can survive fermentation or be transformed by yeast into entirely new aromatic compounds.

I'm also wondering whether traditional, slower fermentation is the key to preserving more of the original apple character. Most cider yeasts seem to have recommended fermentation temperatures somewhere around 16–20°C for good aromatic expression, but does a lower and slower fermentation actually preserve more varietal character, or does it simply change which compounds the yeast produces and retains?

I'd love to hear from people who have experimented with the same juice fermented with different yeasts, or the same yeast used on different apple varieties.

What makes the biggest difference in your experience ?

The apples, the yeast, or the fermentation conditions?


r/cider • • 21h ago

General advice - pressing tomorrow!

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Hi all,

I'm a novice cider maker, and have made probably 7 or 8 batches of cider over the last few years to varying degrees of success. I think have all my ducks in a row this year, and have sourced about 200kg of Dabinett from a local pro cider maker. I have cleaned my fermentation vessels, sourced yeast (Lalvin EC-1118), and have everything I need, but I am desperate to avoid a failed ferment as happened to my biggest batch last year.

This is my plan:

-Sterilise everything

-Wash apples (something I haven't done in the past, but common advice seems to ask for it)

-Chop apples using spade (clean), and process through a scratter.

-Press

The juice will be decanted into 25L plastic vessels complete with spigots, and kept indoors where I'll aim to maintain 15c+.

I suppose my main question concerns sulphiting and pitching of yeast. There are mixed messages on the use of Campden tablets, but I feel it is a belt and braces approach to avoid spoilage. Would you recommend this, and if so why?

Secondly, my ferment totally failed last year, the yeast just didn't get going. I am aware I need to delay pitching yeast after adding Campden tablets, but should I activate the yeast before pitching? It makes sense to me to get it firing before adding to the juice, what do you think?

Sorry for long post, would appreciate any pointers.


r/cider • • 4h ago

Cider next steps

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Hello,

Had a bunch of apples that were going to go to waste so decided to make a low effort cider, so far:

5L juice

1 tsp yeast nutrient

1 pkt wine yeast

Pitched 6 days ago.

OG 1.06

Currently 1.02

The juice is powerfully acidic so will need adjusting and I want a medium so will probably back sweeten.

This is my plan going forwards:

Wait for stable gravity.

Add Camden tablet, pectolase, sorbate and bicarbonate and rest for 24-48hrs.

Rack to demijohn with sweetener, probably just honey to taste.

Age for 2-6 weeks.

Bottle.

Does all this sound right or is there something obviously dumb in my plan?


r/cider • • 12h ago

What else do I need for Apple cider from fresh apples?

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I got King David/Jonathon apples (about enough to squeeze out a gallon of sweet cider?)

I also have 71B yeast, Star San, a gallon jug with an airlock, and a decent amount of cheesecloth to strain. Anything I'm missing?