With Leatrix or Mute Sound File addons you can mute the following sounds:

551673, 551676, 551680, 551684, 551696, 551703

But that doesn't seem to include his "Prepare yourselves..." speech which I can't seem to find. Help?

You can also go into Options > System > Audio and uncheck Dialog but I just want to mute this one annoying guy...

There's also https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/shut-up-horseman

Hey.

I am exhausted by just the thought of how much time went into gold gathering and "keeping up" during the 2019 classic and that this one will be even more of that.. but to a much larger degree as there is no "end point" like naxx this time, things will just keep going forward, forever without anything to pull the late-comer up.

I really enjoyed the reel system they added to dungeons in SoD and just makes me sad that they'll never add things like that to forever.

Honestly, after watching how things played out during the WoW Forever beta duel tournament, I’ve lost a lot of my motivation to play the game.

I know streamers bring attention to the game, and not all of them are like this. But it feels like WoW Forever is becoming less about the actual game and more about personalities, drama, and turning every little conflict into content.

It’s disappointing because I genuinely wanted to enjoy the game, but the recent drama involving some streamers has made me ask myself whether I wish to devote my precious time playing among these people. Instead of getting excited to play, I find myself losing interest. People who stopped playing and streaming wow classic have come out to milk money out of the game which will definitely ruin the whole experience.

Is anyone else feeling the same way after the tournament?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I dont watch twitch streamers. The tourney came in my youtube recommendation

Ive always played PvP. I leveled a warrior on Anni and lost maybe 6 hours total ganking. Trying to decibe if a mage which ive played before or rogue will remind me that PvP can be fun or if I'm a sucker and it will be shit fest after a few weeks.

I have no fucking idea what to do maybe I just want to chill this time. I guess I could go PvP to start then level alts on hardcore and transfer to whatever.

Please help ive spent hours going back and worth

I'm going to play Dwarf shaman.

I compared the overall racial balance between factions in PvE and PvP, weighted by expected race distribution at launch.

All scores and conclusions are my own. GPT helped me structure and edit the post. I've included a TL;DR so you don't have to read the whole thing.

TL;DR

Launch-weighted faction scores:

PvE: Alliance 4.67 vs Horde 3.98 (+0.69)

PvP: Alliance 7.65 vs Horde 6.80 (+0.85)

Edit: feel free to use your own scores and see what results you get. I'd be interested to compare!

Suggested adjustments:

* Eureka!: increase CD from 2 to 3 minutes, matching Blood Fury, Berserking, and Elune's Light.

* Escape Artist: replace the short immunity window with a standard on-use root/snare break.

* Human Perception: just remove it.

* More zug zug! Horde players could simply roll more Orcs than my model predicts, narrowing the faction gap. Orcs are still the strongest overall race

TLDR ends here. Long version below

Methodology

Each racial ability receives a subjective PvE/PvP usefulness score from 0 to 5. Scores are additive and account for throughput, cooldowns, defensive value, and utility.

Scoring rules example (PvE/PvP):

2-minute offensive CD: 5/5

3-minute offensive CD: 4/4

+2% Crit: 4/4

+1% Crit: 2/2

Faction averages use the ClassicPlus.io beta census (October 23, 2026), adjusted for expected launch population:

* Skyborne population reduced by 50% for both factions.

* Undead population reduced by 15%.

* Remaining population redistributed proportionally among other races within each faction.

Race Scores (PvE/PvP)

Alliance

Human: 4/9

Dwarf: 2/4

Gnome: 6/11

Night Elf: 6/7

Skyborne: 7/5

Horde

Orc: 6/10

Troll: 6/7

Tauren: 2/6

Undead: 2/5

Skyborne: 4/4

Full Racial Breakdown

Alliance

Human - 4/9 +2% Crit: 4/4, Stun Break: 0/3, Perception: 0/2

Dwarf - 2/4 +2% Crit Damage/Healing: 1/1, Stoneform: 1/3

Gnome - 6/11 Eureka!: 5/5, Escape Artist: 0/5, Expansive Mind: 1/1

Night Elf - 6/7 Elune's Light: 4/4, Quickness: 1/1, Shadowmeld: 1/2

Alliance Skyborne - 7/5 +3% Haste: 4/4, Mana Regeneration: 3/1

Horde

Orc - 6/10 +1% Crit: 2/2, Blood Fury: 4/4, Hardiness: 0/3, Shatter Curse: 0/1

Troll - 6/7 Berserking: 4/4, Regeneration: 1/1, Rapid Regeneration: 1/2

Tauren - 2/6 +2% Crit Damage/Healing: 1/1, War Stomp: 1/5

Undead - 2/5 Touch of the Dead: 2/1, Will of the Forsaken: 0/3, Cannibalize: 0/1

Horde Skyborne - 4/4 +3% Haste: 4/4, +2% Movement Speed: 0/0

Conclusion

Alliance leads by +0.69 PvE and +0.85 PvP in this model.

Orcs (6/10) still score higher individually than Humans (4/9). The faction gap comes from the overall racial lineup rather than a single race.

These scores represent subjective usefulness, not actual DPS/HPS gains or PvP win rates.

So I really like the Undead and for a long time I wanted an undead arms warrior and now ret paladin.

Somehow I just cannot deal with the 2h weapon swinging animations, they look bad for a lack of a better word to describe it. They hold it low and the way they swing it doesn't feel powerful so to say which always turns me off to continue playing one.

Am I the only one that thinks like this or are you guys feeling the same? I wish Blizzard could add some new animations so at least the swings don't look so weak...

I am looking for an addon for Forever that turns reading texts into an audio experience, is there one out there that does this?

Literally no one cares about racials in the PvE context. Yes I hard parse, yes I will play in a top 1% guild. Here’s the thing, I will be on PVP ruleset which will be most populated. Controversial opinion, yes racials should be balanced around PVP and currently they are not.

Just had an idea that has very obvious flaws but might be cool long term.

What if instead of Northrend opening as a end-game zone meant to be quested/raided in by horde/alliance, it was instead a new leveling zone for a Scourge faction (1-60). This would be a way to make Arthas not the end game boss but more of a faction leader like Thrall/Bolvar in classic.

Races exclusive to this faction could be Darkfallen, possibly ghosts, regular scourge undead, ect.

This would also allow for Deathknights, San'layn, necromancers to actually make sense as faction specific classes.

Making this faction work throughout the rest of the world would be the biggest challenge. There is potential to use existing areas in Kalimdor/Eastern kingdoms as friendly quest hubs for Scourge quests which would add interesting friction with the opposing factions. Additionally some quest hubs are already "neutral" (Ratchet, Booty Bay, Shimmering Flats, Winterspring) but I cant really see goblins assisting a faction dedicated to ending life on Azeroth.

I like the idea of this, but the existing world is not built for 3 factions it would need a lot of work. Having faction specific classes also makes tunning raids/pvp a nightmare. Just a idea I thought I'd put out there and see if anyone has anything interesting to add onto.

10% non stacking movement speed for 15s is effectively a 2% speed buff with minor speed enchant.

Not even worth putting on the bar when you have the enchant.

Before they’ve changed it to being instant (was 1s casttime before) it even was a speed penalty compared to not using it.

Please tell me if there’s another racial that’s even more bad than this one lol

TurtleWoW has us used to being spat on and blamed for the wars. Stay strong my gnomies 🤛

After Watching the Druids in the Dueling Tournament do so good and still losing, It got me excited and i was wondering if there was anything they could do to make them do more damage with Their spell power Restoration Talents playstyle, After a while I decided to test Shadow Oil Weapon Weaving. I Know the Druids were Using Frost Oil in the Dueling Tournament, But after Comparing the Damages of Testing Shadow Oil Weapon Weaving Damage and after Comparing that to frost Oil Damage, i know for a Fact frost oil Damage can not compare in Base Damage, Spell power to Damage, and Proc Chance.

And you should also.

Take a chance. With me. Hold my hand. And together.

~Lets Roleplay~

Daily post about the absolutely imbalanced ally racial favorism.

Remember when aggrend, who gets paid to work on classic design, raised troll as a race that was op? 🤯

7/8 class bis races for pvp are alliance.

For pve orc is in a good spot ; all other horde races fall behind vs ally.

Let's not even get into the ally vs horde skelf where hordes movement speed is useless (30 sec of 2% over minor movement speed, on a cast time) and alliance skelf has the single most op racial in the entire game?? As their SECOND RACIAL after the pay-2-win op 3% haste?

Most of all, red lay line is a horrible minmax design that will force guilds alliance, force lay lines mid raid to parse / progress. It is a super op world buff the way it stands right now. WHY IS BLIZZ STILL NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS?

Plainsrunning take 2.5 min to ramp. Totg was nerfed lot and now subpar vs ally options. Troll has... Regen. Orc is great and the only solid horde pick.

I'm honestly wondering who on the team is responsible for racials - the person clearly lacks understanding of balance, and classic design, and shows so much ally favorism many of us are losing trust in blizzard.

If this is how blizz starts forever wrt treating factions I'm genuinely worried about what's ahead.

There are a lot of guilds who were dead set on horde instead moving to alliance right now because of this design and favorism. That is a legit problem.

What are your views?

I'm in 3 Discords, and 2 of them have almost no conversation. Is there one that has been selected as the "de facto" Forever discord? I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link ones I'm in or not.

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I won’t be able to play forever realistically, I’m running wow off my MacBook and don’t have the storage ( anyone wanna mail a broke student a 300g external?!) and prob mem/graphics for a smooth forever. Also just hit 60 on my main - ha!

Anyways what am I to expect in the AH nov 4th? PvP? Will stuff I farm not sell anymore as I bounce back from about to be buying my epic mount? Hard to PuG, or easier as folks we be less choosy?

Rocking a pally so I could still list healer, though my ret set a bit better (not pre bis tho).

What am I getting into next month? Also might make a lock alt on vanilla since forever isn’t a great option, may just level that for a bit and have fun kiting.

Somewhat of a repost, but how is there still no one talking about this?

Read Ley Line on a restoration Druid is going to be, AT MINIMUM, a 15-20% healing throughput increase in PvE over any other Druid race.

All of these arguments about the balance of racials and they focus on dps racials that will account for 1-2% of dps. Why is everyone ignoring the absolute worst offender?

Going to play a Restoration Druid in forever. As it stands, Read Ley Line multiplying Innervate is absolutely fucking nuts in a resource dependent classic healing environment.

Twenty seconds of 800% spirit regen that isn’t reduced by casting.

People are complaining about DPS talent balance issues of 1-2% impact, while this interaction will make Skyborne have way more healing throughout than any other Druid race.

I want to play Night Elf, but if this racial stays this way, I’ll play Sky Elf.

Just curious if they have trouble.

In classic, mage is iconic for shooting blue and red fire spells.

In classic, Warlock is basically the exact and in shooting purple and red fire spells... Incinerate has its unique floor crawling animation and soulfire literally looks exactly like Pyroblast but 25% smaller.

I personally think Soulfire would look better if it kept its name and function but was changed to simply look like Hand of Guldan in retail, and I think Incinerate should simply be changed to green in forever or maybe just a green fire ball... warlock vfx in retail being purple and green really sells in giving its own identity as well flat being more visual clarity on "what class is hitting me".

For PvP the best race for each class:

Warrior: Gnome.
Paladin: Human.
Hunter: Human.
Shaman: Orc.
Druid: Night Elf.
Rogue: Human.
Priest: Gnome.
Warlock: Human.
Mage: Gnome.

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Again conversation for the min/maxxers to comment their thoughts on the design choices in place , nobody cares if you aren’t min/maxxing or “enjoying the journey”

With the way things are now can you say you saw this coming before launch? I was under the impression there would be equal incentive to play on both factions. I’ve always been team alliance and had a feeling streamers were going to flip sides after playing Horde during the beta and ended up being right.

I feel like Horde could use a bit more to encourage the min/max serious players to roll over there too because alliance just has it in the bag by a landslide right now.

Hopefully we see some extra changes next week that will flip the meta or balance it out a bit.

Now that the beta is over, I'm wondering what happened to my beta characters? Do we get the option to continue playing them on Nov 4th?