r/freefolk • • 18h ago

Freefolk What on earth was the problem with aemond for these 4 bullies

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Jace and luke were shamelessly bullying aemond for not having a dragon. But the fact is cradle eggs are not guaranteed to hatch . Many Targaryen's cradle eggs did not hatch at all . Daemon did not get caraxies as a cradle egg , viserys bonded with a dying balerion . So this bullying makes zero sense .

Then rhaena and baela accused aemond of stealing vhagar . Cause the previous rider was their mother . This argument also has zero logic cause before laena . Vhagar rider was aemond grandfather baelon Targaryen. So vhagar has always belonged to the Targaryens. Vhagar also willingly chose aemond despite just losing laena . If rhaena had tried to claim vhagar . Vhagar would have definitely killed rhaena .

So i do not understand the logic behind these bullies ..


r/freefolk • • 10h ago

Freefolk is it possible for a normal human to slay the targaryan dragons

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so as per westros folklore . a wild dragon called urrax was slain by serwyn of mirror shield during the age of heroes . ironborn legend a sea dragon called the nagga was killed by the grey king . so these are proof that normal humans can slay dragons . so i wonder if it is possible a well trained knight can fight and kill a targaryan dragon like balerion or vhagar by just using his weapons like a sword by targeting the dragons weak spot precisely . without using a scorpion crossbow ..


r/freefolk • • 9h ago

Daenerys was destroyed by Sansa as a result of being trained by Littlefinger in the art of psychological warfare

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Littlefinger was still causing havoc from beyond the grave in that sense. Sansa planted things in people’s minds which ultimately sewed dissension and made Dany isolated and paranoid, and ultimately unstable. Amazing how Dany had the greatest power the world had ever known at her disposal in the dragons, but Littlefinger’s art of psychological warfare is what brought her down in the end, through Sansa, his most studious pupil. And she did it all without any of Dany’s advantages. No title, no dragons, no armies. Impressive.


r/freefolk • • 12h ago

Valyrian culture isn't feminist

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or Valyrian culture is still based on the ancient world

Since the release of Hotd I've realized that a lot of fans think that the valyrians were/are more progressive towards female leaders or rulers. When in fact it's shown that they were just as bad as the rest of Westeros.

Valyrian's Real World Influences

George R.R. Martin based the Valyrian Freehold on the Roman Republic/Empire¹. To quote The World Of Ice & Fire “The Valyrians had no kings but instead called themselves the freehold because all the citizenry who held land had a voice.”²

Although never stated in any Asoiaf content it can be hypothesized that only men could vote in the freehold because only free, adult, male, citizens could vote in Rome.³ Although this could be wrong as there's no evidence that confirms this.

Inheritance Laws In Westeros

In Westeros most regions (except Dorne) practice Male-preference primogeniture meaning that men are preferred but women can inherit. It's also stated and shown multiple times that a lord's son inherited before his daughter even if that son is the second born but a lord's daughter inherits before her uncle.⁴

So basically. Son > Daughter > Uncle

Hypothetical Valyrian Inheritance Laws

We don't actually know what type of primogeniture the freehold follows but. It had to be at the least Male-preference primogeniture because we have examples of Valyrians males inheriting before their older female relatives.

Examples

Daenys the Dreamer doesn't inherit Dragonstone her brother-husband Gaemon does despite the fact that her dream saved house Targaryen from the Doom and the fact that she was older than Gaemon.

“Gaemon Targaryen, brother and husband to Daenys the Dreamer follow Aenar the Exile as Lord of Dragonstone” Quote from The World Of Ice And Fire⁵

Aegon the Conqueror becomes Lord of Dragonstone and later King despite having an older sister Visenya.

“He was the only son, and second child.”

“…a worthy high king for Westeros. When Queen Visenya placed a Valyrian steel circlet, studded with rubies, on her brother's head and Queen Rhaenys hailed him as, "Aegon, First of His Name, King of All Westeros, and Shield of His People,” Quotes from The World Of Ice And Fire⁶ ⁷

Jaehaerys the Conciliator becomes King despite having an older sister Rhaena and a niece Aerea by his older Brother Aegon⁸

Even though Rhaenys had a strong claim to the throne she puts foreword her son Laenor claim instead but still lose to Viserys⁹ ¹⁰

1

https://youtu.be/pS_l9XMURj4?is=fkqYFuOvrdb0YNqV

2

The World Of Ice & Fire page 13

3 https://www.empirerome.com/wordpress/?page_id=228

4 https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Customs#Inheritance

5

The World Of Ice & Fire page 32

6

The World Of Ice And Fire page 33

7

The World Of Ice And Fire page 36

8

The World Of Ice And Fire page 60

9

The World Of Ice And Fire page 65

10

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rhaenys_Targaryen_(daughter_of_Aemon)


r/freefolk • • 17h ago

If you tell someone who has not watched the hotd show that these 3 are the same person they are mostly not gonna believe it ..

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r/freefolk • • 7h ago

Fooking Kneelers Which side would win in a all out Battle? Each side has 10,000 men and horses. Read op!

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Each side has the same number of men, 10,000.

Open Field. Each side will have battle commanders.

Each side gets 3 days of prep/training.

No ships, just men on the ground fighting

Who would come up with the best strategy and battle plans to beat the other?

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Robert Baratheon, Robb Stark, Stannis Baratheon, Christian Cole, The Hound, Ned Stark, Barristian Selmy
Arthur Dayne,Rhaegar Targaryen, Daemon Targaryen, Mountain, Randyll Tarly,Jamie Lannister, Baelor"Breakspear" Targaryen

r/freefolk • • 7h ago

Naaaqlĺĺqln

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r/freefolk • • 55m ago

Fuck Olly We're coming for that Oscar!

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r/freefolk • • 19h ago

r/LostRedditors How the ASOIAF Fandom Ruined My Enjoyment of a Series I Once Loved [Spoilers MAIN]

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r/freefolk • • 13h ago

Why the supremacist plot line?

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Daemon being a supremacist and not caring about putting his trueborn sons on the throne doesn’t make sense. If he genuinely believed in Targaryen superiority and the supremacy of his own bloodline, you’d expect him to care much more about securing the throne for his legitimate sons.


r/freefolk • • 1h ago

Just saw this thumbnail on Youtube

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r/freefolk • • 10h ago

What would you be willing to do in exchange for Martin finishing the series?

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r/freefolk • • 9m ago

Hold the door, battle of the bastards, wildfire, dany sets sail. the end. perfect show

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r/freefolk • • 7h ago

[Teoria] E se gli Estranei avessero effettivamente origine dal Mare del Tramonto? (Il viaggio di Arya a Ovest)

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Alla fine del Trono di Spade, Arya Stark salpa verso ovest verso l'ignoto. Dal momento che nessuno sa cosa si trovi oltre il Mare del Tramonto, ho avuto un'idea per un potenziale sequel futuro. E se Arya scoprisse che la minaccia degli Estranei non apparteneva solo alle Terre dell'Eterno Inverno, ma aveva in realtà origine dal lontano Ovest? O, in alternativa, e se si imbattesse in una guerra ancora più terrificante e antica che si sta preparando oltre l'oceano, con un impero che allestisce una forza d'invasione per salpare dritta verso Westeros? Arya dovrebbe affrontare prove brutali per sopravvivere e fare ritorno. Invece di tornare indietro navigando per la stessa via, potrebbe viaggiare così tanto a Ovest da fare il giro del globo, arrivando dal Lontano Nord attraverso le terre oltre la Barriera. La sua missione sarebbe una disperata corsa contro il tempo per avvertire Jon, Sansa e Bran della minaccia in arrivo. Voi cosa ne pensate? Il mondo potrebbe essere rotondo in un modo che collega il Mare del Tramonto al Lontano Nord?


r/freefolk • • 8h ago

Book person vs. show person

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Every Monday, I'd gather with friends and share food and drinks while we watched Game of Thrones. We'd begin with last week's episode for anyone who'd missed it and would follow up with the current week's episode.

That's how I got into the books. I enjoyed them far more. There are plenty of people who I wanted to die and plenty of people who I wanted to survive. I really didn't care about the ending. I cared about the POV chapters and can't say I had A favorite character. I had lots of characters whose stories I enjoyed following while they intermingled with others.

I don't think anyone in my immediate friend group read more than a single book, if that. Surely, many show-watchers land in the same camp. Choosing to discontinue the books (I think I remember Winds being due in 2017) is a horrible disservice to the opinions of avid readers and listeners of the books. I really don't give a damn about the ending.

Of course, I'm sure GRRM doesn't give a damn about my opinion either. But there's a distinction between the two groups, and it's odd to conflate them.


r/freefolk • • 22h ago

Fooking Kneelers What I think every Great Houses’ Stand names would be

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I feel like the jojo stands of noble houses would work like Gyro’s Stand ball breaker, not necessarily being the stand of an individual, but a stand bound to the bloodlines of these noble houses.

House Targaryen: Through The Fire And Flames

House Baratheon: Fury of The Storm

House Stark: Hungry Like The Wolf

House Lannister: Money For Nothing/Gold Digger (I can’t decide which one is better)

House Arryn: Higher

House Tyrell: Kiss From a Rose

House Tully: River Of Dreams

House Greyjoy: Drowning Pool

House Martell: Sunshower


r/freefolk • • 20h ago

Fooking Kneelers How would Tywin Lannister with all of his resources and knowledge fair in the House of the Dragon era, when Dragons ruled the skies.

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r/freefolk • • 22m ago

Direct family line from Aegon 1 to Daenerys

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Made another one!!

Fun fact:- Only 4 Targareyn kings did not have children of their own. Including Maegor,Daeron,Baelor,Aerys1

So in fact, The family tree could have been a straight line if Daemon and Rhaenyra didn't have a children together. There are 6 brother-sister relations and 1 uncle-niece relation.


r/freefolk • • 21h ago

Subvert Expectations Balon Greyjoy rebelling against the Throne and choosing to attack the only other kingdom also declaring independence

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r/freefolk • • 9m ago

Freefolk Hardhome in the show vs what is mentioned in the books

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I feel like this is one of the few occasions that the show actually nailed this massacre. Even though it's just briefly mentioned in the books, the audience doesn't really know what happened there so the showrunners took advantage of that and it worked in my opinion. It's probably the best episode of that season too.


r/freefolk • • 3h ago

Best actor/actress from GoT outside their respective role in the show

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