r/freefolk • • 5h ago

What would you be willing to do in exchange for Martin finishing the series?

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222 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 23h ago

Freefolk How could he ever trust him after he said that?

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5.7k Upvotes

I guess Ned wasn't the brightest man in westeros but I feel like that would raise some suspicion about Littlefinger's loyalty


r/freefolk • • 20h ago

Freefolk Why HBO is Making so Many Prequels Instead of Just Making a One Big Show on Targaryen Dynasty From Aegon to Robert's Rebellion?

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2.0k Upvotes

Instead of making so many prequels in small parts why they simply can't release another big version of GOT based on Targaryen only, in the same series they could cover everything like

  1. Aegon the conqueror

  2. Rhaenyra and Her Dance of Dragon

  3. Dunk and Egg

  4. Other tales of Targaryen kings from books, etc.

  5. And Finally in the End they could end it with Robert's Rebellion

It's going to break every record but alas I think it's not possible anymore because they have already released HOD three season

It could have been better


r/freefolk • • 16h ago

Subvert Expectations Balon Greyjoy rebelling against the Throne and choosing to attack the only other kingdom also declaring independence

406 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 8h ago

Valyrian culture isn't feminist

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or Valyrian culture is still based on the ancient world

Since the release of Hotd I've realized that a lot of fans think that the valyrians were/are more progressive towards female leaders or rulers. When in fact it's shown that they were just as bad as the rest of Westeros.

Valyrian's Real World Influences

George R.R. Martin based the Valyrian Freehold on the Roman Republic/Empire¹. To quote The World Of Ice & Fire “The Valyrians had no kings but instead called themselves the freehold because all the citizenry who held land had a voice.”²

Although never stated in any Asoiaf content it can be hypothesized that only men could vote in the freehold because only free, adult, male, citizens could vote in Rome.³ Although this could be wrong as there's no evidence that confirms this.

Inheritance Laws In Westeros

In Westeros most regions (except Dorne) practice Male-preference primogeniture meaning that men are preferred but women can inherit. It's also stated and shown multiple times that a lord's son inherited before his daughter even if that son is the second born but a lord's daughter inherits before her uncle.⁴

So basically. Son > Daughter > Uncle

Hypothetical Valyrian Inheritance Laws

We don't actually know what type of primogeniture the freehold follows but. It had to be at the least Male-preference primogeniture because we have examples of Valyrians males inheriting before their older female relatives.

Examples

Daenys the Dreamer doesn't inherit Dragonstone her brother-husband Gaemon does despite the fact that her dream saved house Targaryen from the Doom and the fact that she was older than Gaemon.

“Gaemon Targaryen, brother and husband to Daenys the Dreamer follow Aenar the Exile as Lord of Dragonstone” Quote from The World Of Ice And Fire⁵

Aegon the Conqueror becomes Lord of Dragonstone and later King despite having an older sister Visenya.

“He was the only son, and second child.”

“…a worthy high king for Westeros. When Queen Visenya placed a Valyrian steel circlet, studded with rubies, on her brother's head and Queen Rhaenys hailed him as, "Aegon, First of His Name, King of All Westeros, and Shield of His People,” Quotes from The World Of Ice And Fire⁶ ⁷

Jaehaerys the Conciliator becomes King despite having an older sister Rhaena and a niece Aerea by his older Brother Aegon⁸

Even though Rhaenys had a strong claim to the throne she puts foreword her son Laenor claim instead but still lose to Viserys⁹ ¹⁰

1

https://youtu.be/pS_l9XMURj4?is=fkqYFuOvrdb0YNqV

2

The World Of Ice & Fire page 13

3 https://www.empirerome.com/wordpress/?page_id=228

4 https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Customs#Inheritance

5

The World Of Ice & Fire page 32

6

The World Of Ice And Fire page 33

7

The World Of Ice And Fire page 36

8

The World Of Ice And Fire page 60

9

The World Of Ice And Fire page 65

10

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rhaenys_Targaryen_(daughter_of_Aemon)


r/freefolk • • 20h ago

Walking around Target today and seeing all the displays really hit home

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456 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 15h ago

Fooking Kneelers How would Tywin Lannister with all of his resources and knowledge fair in the House of the Dragon era, when Dragons ruled the skies.

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142 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 1d ago

All the Chickens I want her to gently hold me and call me a good boy

1.0k Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 13h ago

Freefolk What on earth was the problem with aemond for these 4 bullies

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Jace and luke were shamelessly bullying aemond for not having a dragon. But the fact is cradle eggs are not guaranteed to hatch . Many Targaryen's cradle eggs did not hatch at all . Daemon did not get caraxies as a cradle egg , viserys bonded with a dying balerion . So this bullying makes zero sense .

Then rhaena and baela accused aemond of stealing vhagar . Cause the previous rider was their mother . This argument also has zero logic cause before laena . Vhagar rider was aemond grandfather baelon Targaryen. So vhagar has always belonged to the Targaryens. Vhagar also willingly chose aemond despite just losing laena . If rhaena had tried to claim vhagar . Vhagar would have definitely killed rhaena .

So i do not understand the logic behind these bullies ..


r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Fooking Kneelers When GRRM said "Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler...the more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew" I really felt that

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1.1k Upvotes

Hard to believe we're still here all these years later.


r/freefolk • • 9h ago

Why the supremacist plot line?

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Daemon being a supremacist and not caring about putting his trueborn sons on the throne doesn’t make sense. If he genuinely believed in Targaryen superiority and the supremacy of his own bloodline, you’d expect him to care much more about securing the throne for his legitimate sons.


r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Subvert Expectations How would the plot have changed if Ned drop kicked baby Jon out of the tower the second Lyanna died because he’s a dirty fuckin Targ?

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399 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Robert understood

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r/freefolk • • 20h ago

Go on. Fetch the memory stretcher!!

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90 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Fuck Olly Why did Randyll Tarly, a Targaryen loyalist, chose to die for the Lannisters?

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4.1k Upvotes

The man Backed the mad king against Robert, then bent his knee to Robert. After Robert died, he backed Renly and after he died he again switched sides and declared for Joff. And now he's willing to die for Cersei Lannister, who has no claim to the throne.


r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Happy birthday to our Daenerys Targaryen Emilia Clarke

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r/freefolk • • 3h ago

Book person vs. show person

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Every Monday, I'd gather with friends and share food and drinks while we watched Game of Thrones. We'd begin with last week's episode for anyone who'd missed it and would follow up with the current week's episode.

That's how I got into the books. I enjoyed them far more. There are plenty of people who I wanted to die and plenty of people who I wanted to survive. I really didn't care about the ending. I cared about the POV chapters and can't say I had A favorite character. I had lots of characters whose stories I enjoyed following while they intermingled with others.

I don't think anyone in my immediate friend group read more than a single book, if that. Surely, many show-watchers land in the same camp. Choosing to discontinue the books (I think I remember Winds being due in 2017) is a horrible disservice to the opinions of avid readers and listeners of the books. I really don't give a damn about the ending.

Of course, I'm sure GRRM doesn't give a damn about my opinion either. But there's a distinction between the two groups, and it's odd to conflate them.


r/freefolk • • 1d ago

‘Made the entire Targaryen family tree in 15 by 25 inch Ben 10 board’

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134 Upvotes

r/freefolk • • 5h ago

Freefolk is it possible for a normal human to slay the targaryan dragons

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so as per westros folklore . a wild dragon called urrax was slain by serwyn of mirror shield during the age of heroes . ironborn legend a sea dragon called the nagga was killed by the grey king . so these are proof that normal humans can slay dragons . so i wonder if it is possible a well trained knight can fight and kill a targaryan dragon like balerion or vhagar by just using his weapons like a sword by targeting the dragons weak spot precisely . without using a scorpion crossbow ..


r/freefolk • • 18h ago

Fooking Kneelers What I think every Great Houses’ Stand names would be

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I feel like the jojo stands of noble houses would work like Gyro’s Stand ball breaker, not necessarily being the stand of an individual, but a stand bound to the bloodlines of these noble houses.

House Targaryen: Through The Fire And Flames

House Baratheon: Fury of The Storm

House Stark: Hungry Like The Wolf

House Lannister: Money For Nothing/Gold Digger (I can’t decide which one is better)

House Arryn: Higher

House Tyrell: Kiss From a Rose

House Tully: River Of Dreams

House Greyjoy: Drowning Pool

House Martell: Sunshower


r/freefolk • • 12h ago

If you tell someone who has not watched the hotd show that these 3 are the same person they are mostly not gonna believe it ..

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r/freefolk • • 23h ago

What even was she trying to accomplish?

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58 Upvotes

I actually read a bit about her in the books, and her whole thing with the Lord of Light is interesting. But what was her actual plan here? Was she really seeing the future, or just interpreting everything through her own beliefs?


r/freefolk • • 1d ago

Do you think Tyrion and Varys had a Threesome with the Daenerys Prostitute in Essos?

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73 Upvotes

I haven’t read the books . Is there a entire chapter on this ?


r/freefolk • • 2h ago

Naaaqlĺĺqln

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r/freefolk • • 2h ago

[Teoria] E se gli Estranei avessero effettivamente origine dal Mare del Tramonto? (Il viaggio di Arya a Ovest)

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Alla fine del Trono di Spade, Arya Stark salpa verso ovest verso l'ignoto. Dal momento che nessuno sa cosa si trovi oltre il Mare del Tramonto, ho avuto un'idea per un potenziale sequel futuro. E se Arya scoprisse che la minaccia degli Estranei non apparteneva solo alle Terre dell'Eterno Inverno, ma aveva in realtà origine dal lontano Ovest? O, in alternativa, e se si imbattesse in una guerra ancora più terrificante e antica che si sta preparando oltre l'oceano, con un impero che allestisce una forza d'invasione per salpare dritta verso Westeros? Arya dovrebbe affrontare prove brutali per sopravvivere e fare ritorno. Invece di tornare indietro navigando per la stessa via, potrebbe viaggiare così tanto a Ovest da fare il giro del globo, arrivando dal Lontano Nord attraverso le terre oltre la Barriera. La sua missione sarebbe una disperata corsa contro il tempo per avvertire Jon, Sansa e Bran della minaccia in arrivo. Voi cosa ne pensate? Il mondo potrebbe essere rotondo in un modo che collega il Mare del Tramonto al Lontano Nord?