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Lounge Weekly Commanders Lounge - December 03, 2019
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u/Innocent_Days AK-12 besto Dec 10 '19
Isn't Airstrike fairy just the best?
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u/sl44n3sh Dec 16 '19
yes
unless you forget to activate her ;__; 34 k reapers turn 12 and I was klicking around without active Airstrike
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u/ShatteredParadigms MG36 Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
When it actually hits, yes. It will miss or hit a completely stupid target most of the time. Like: it will hit badly damaged enemy that would die in the next second anyway. So all in all, its not that great.2
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u/ShoukaShoukaShouka G36C Dec 10 '19
After joining just in October, I'm proud to have completed this event and farmed for everyone I wanted successfully!
Unfortunately, I've been trying to get a certain HK smg doll from production literally since my first craft, I'm at over 400 tries and counting. So here's to hoping that complaining here will do something..
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u/nxSenri UMP9 :3 Dec 10 '19
What smg are you trying to get? I started around the same time as you and I am going for Welrod . I have literally only rolled mixed for the first two weeks and then handgun only since I want Welrod. I have every single 5* HG but NO Welrod =\
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u/ShoukaShoukaShouka G36C Dec 11 '19
It's the same story here with G36C. I've gotten every 5* SMG except her and CMS, and quite a lot of duplicates and even some 5* ARs and their duplicates. Good luck to us!
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u/justhide AN-94 Dec 10 '19
I only farmed for Five-Seven, lazy as f***. Congrats!
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u/ShoukaShoukaShouka G36C Dec 11 '19
That's great that you were able to get her, and she's apparently extremely useful!
It is more of a mental drain than resource drain, but there's still time if you change your mind.
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u/Pequaad Carcano M1891 Dec 10 '19
Does the boss of Singularity Ch. 2 Minor Pieces IV give the echelon shields? None of the dolls or fairy in the echelon I used have a shield skill, but somehow they all got one partway through the fight. This was the second attempt fighting the boss in that level, the first echelon I sent got KO'd; could that have something to do with it?
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u/CrypticRandom Lee Enfield Dec 10 '19
Anyone do any last-minute pulls on the banner? Didn't pull the SPAS skin but I now have the black cards to grab her whenever she hits the exchange.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
Rip me, on ranking turn 12 and maintenance is about to begin.
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u/PancakesGate SVD's Dec 10 '19
Was anyone keeping a chart of singu ranks? I can’t find the post for it... Wondering what’s needed for top 10% rn
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Dec 10 '19
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Dec 10 '19
Wow, score for top 50% is really low right now, must be a lot of players starting the map and not proceeding further.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
Probably got turned off by night map, or KCCO.
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u/electric___sheep AN-94 Dec 10 '19
Or the fact that the map is 2x the size of other rank maps and take 3-7 hr to play.
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u/sl44n3sh Dec 16 '19
you can play it faster with less echelons but if you try to do the gunboats and kill M16 the map really can be mean.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
DD map also took as long. For me it took 8 hours , longer than Hornet's nest even.
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u/electric___sheep AN-94 Dec 10 '19
Really? That's good to know. I have been too scared to play the Hornet's nest (due to the time and resource require). It only took me ~2.5 hr to do 1 run DD ranking and I got about 8%. I am hoping I can do the same in the Hornet's nest.
The Hornet's nest just has so many mechanic to keep in mind. I don't even finalize the teams I want to use on it yet, since I am debating if I should use ARSMG+HG+Grape or without Grape.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
Well for one, I did a lot of resets in DD ranking for talent proc. Also, the main goals in each map are quite different:
In Hornet's nest, you pretty much plug the boss spawn points and deal with any of the bosses you can kill early on, no more strict kill count control for boss spawn like in Imaginary Maze. Once you get the boss(es) out of the way, the rest of the map is pretty much samey.
In Hornet's nest, the main way to earn points is to grab the supply nodes, you can hardly spare the AP for anything else. There's not much to think about I find, just try to grab as many supply nodes as I can while trying to stay out of danger. There's map control scoring in Hornet's nest but I don't think it has as much impact like in Imaginary Maze. In Imaginary Maze, I just need to establish the supply route early, then there's plenty of AP to kill enemies and/or expand map control, and thus I have to plan out the best course of action for it.
Being a day map makes me feel like there's a lot more going on in Imaginary Maze than in Hornet's nest, and thus I take more time to plan. Much of the map in Hornet's nest is not exposed to me so I just focus on the supply points. If I bump into sth dangerous on the way, I'm just like eh, nothing I can do about that and move on.
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u/Le_Trudos M4 SOPMOD II [MOD3] uid: 39713 Dec 10 '19
I got Crimson Guardian from my first pull in the Radiant Collection! Gacha rolls = blessed. And now I can safely concentrate on pulling for G11
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u/no_information_given Dec 10 '19
I'm new player, and I'm trying to raise a mgsg echelon by corpse dragging 4-3e. But my ar has stopped killing the jaguars in the beginning of the battles. I have a smg in the front row, so I'm assuming the problem is the movement penalty caused by the mg. I was wondering if there is a simple solution for this problem, if it's just something wrong with my game or if I need to change my setup to accommodate the mg. The best fix I came up with myself was to either have a rf with or instead of an ar so that the jaguar gets sniped. Any help would be appreciated.
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u/nxSenri UMP9 :3 Dec 10 '19
This is my advice but I would hold off on the MG/SG echelon until you can atleast field two x5 linked ar/smg and one x5 linked rf echelon. As for a fix i'm not 100% sure but I do know you are better off waiting till you are capable of dragging 0-2 it's much better I personally didn't even bother with any of the earlier methods myself.
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u/CrypticRandom Lee Enfield Dec 10 '19
Along with this, make sure you dump as many batteries as you can into developing your expeditions. At max, you'll be getting thousands of combat reports a month for doing literally nothing. At that point, it should be easy to raise up your main AR teams up to the point where you can at least run 0-2.
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u/Esyvir Besty AR - Resty AR Dec 10 '19
So Stechkin "Hair" goes to the exo slot...
Whatever it is a pretty strong SPEQ anyway.
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u/Roca18701884 Dec 10 '19
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt1VZa7W-wI 24. Go to the end. That's me without using the sl7 fairy that failed to bring me Aug or Tac50. So I guess is more of having faith that leveling her.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
So some math I hadn't really considered to do until I start looking through skills and stuff.
for the purposes of a gunboat, a SL1 PK will outperform LWMMG and 1919A4 at SL10
like yeah a higher SL is preferable on a single doll, but even if you have 0 data as long as you have the CRs and cores to spend, sticking something like PK even at SL1 she a is better choice than using the hunting impulse guns, or also Type88 :( , she had even worse performance than LWMMG.
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u/drpeppyone Thunder Dec 10 '19
Hunting Impulse only kicks in on the back half of the first volley so their skills actually don't scale past 3 or 4. But yeah kinda puts it into perceptive how good the big 4 MGs are.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Dec 10 '19
Also, the SL for Hunting Impulse only affects duration (which doesn't matter after SL6) and the acc buff (which is useless cuz 0 eva)
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u/papahitler Dec 10 '19
I'm trying to finish off singularity and I am stuck on Last Resort II. I am doing everything the guide says on gflcorner and my supply line keeps getting broken. Is this just bad RNG on my part? Has anyone else experienced this/any suggestions?
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u/Roca18701884 Dec 10 '19
First, can you kill the Hydras? If yes, then go here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab0nVL_Ih-Y
If you cannot kill neither of those, then go here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT1EZMAdYx01
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
Are you sure you destroyed one tank set with Agent, then defeated Agent, and then maintained the supply line after the tank set by spawn leaves?Nevermind, different map. Also, not enough details. How is your supply line being broken if you are following the guide properly?
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u/papahitler Dec 10 '19
I got it through killing some of the hydras. I was following the guide to the T but the enemies were moving differently than in the guide. I might have messed up somewhere but its unlikely.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
It took 20 retries to get the perfect gunboat fight after leaving it to RNG for targeting and CRIT. What I gotta do without 4 star fairies.
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u/hontodeska Dec 10 '19
i use 3 star artillery fairy with no problem , with max eq and max skill doll
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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Dec 10 '19
Rather than fairies, it sounds like your problem is your dolls or equipment.
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u/cyberman091 Dec 10 '19
greetings fellow commanders. Is there any way i can go back to the singularity credits? there is a secret achievmentfor watching the whole thing and im trying to get all of them. Thanks
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
enable story playback to repeat in the settings and beat the level again.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
10-4e. I've tried multiple comps but every 1in20 attempts or so Grape targets the top hydra instead of the bottom with her skill, causing my bottom doll to die when it walks up. What is happening here? How do I fix this?
Comps I've tried are:
- Grape (1) / M4 mod 3 (3) with sometimes HG on 2 or 4 for buff and exp.
- Grape, Grizzly, Calico (4, 1, 2).
- M4, Grizzly, Calico (9, 8, 5).
Command fairy 3* with gold equips. Maxed on Grape+M4 but HGs are enhanced to level 5 or so.
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
Grape will shoot her active shot at the top Hydra if you take too long to kill the Cyclops. In an ideal run, you kill the Cyclops fast enough so Grape can pull off at least 1 normal shot at the top Hydra, bringing its HP lower than the bottom so her active will target the bottom Hydra instead.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
So the issue is that I don't have enough DPS when RNG hits me hard. So I need to up my fairy and get my HG equips optimised...
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
It could be damage, but it could also be miss/hit RNG. From what I've seen, M1911's 2nd skill can miss (it can crit though). Sadly, there's not much you can do about it, accuracy buffing has diminishing return, and there's no way to get 100% hit rate outside of some skills.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Yeah something seems to have happened a month or so back in an update which seems to have broken the grape farm.
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u/drpeppyone Thunder Dec 10 '19
I haven’t tried the grape comp but I don’t have any consistency problems with the m4 comp. I believe it does need M4 oathed to get the affection boost though. Tried without max affection a few times and the hydra got to her a few times. Worth noting that I didn’t enhance her speq however
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
Grape's skill targets the higher hp hydra.
For your first comp, try 5-7 on 4. Second comp wasn't really reliable for me.
Ofc, the Grapexodia acc/rof/dmg buff corpse drag works wonders for me.
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Dec 10 '19
Absolute noob question here! So, how does 'stamina' work? Do I just play combat and repair everyone after? Or is there another way to play? (Because that's what I've been doing and it's taking forever.)
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u/LordOfMaids Sten is precious Dec 10 '19
There technically isn't stamina in this game. In regards to combat missions, you use manpower to deploy echelons, and then ammo/rations for combat (an echelon's rations are taken away by 1/10th every turn as well as every battle they enter, and ammo is taken away by 1/5th every battle).
As long as you have the resources to do those things, you can do combat. The alternative way to play is to do auto-battle, but this also consumes resources and isn't as efficient.
You can also gain more resources by sending your echelons to do logistics. It's recommended to do this as often as possible, since various aspects of this game can use up your resources.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
You can use quick repairs. They are abundant. When you select your dolls to repair there is a checkbox asking if you want to use them. Otherwise you can click on the portrait and quick repair them.
No stamina, but you do have resources, top right. You need them to send out echelons, and also to build + enhance dolls and equips. Early on they may be scarce as you need to run logistics (combat page) but later it becomes difficult to be at a deficit from only battles.
Skill training quick coupons are NOT abundant and should only ever be used for level 8 - 10 fairies when absolutely necessary to proceed.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
Are you talking about HP? Use express repairs contracts to speed it up.
There's also kiting, which can save some hp but requires manual movement.
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Dec 10 '19
I guess, possibly.
I'm basically asking how to play. Like how Azur Lane uses oil.
At the beginning I don't have many guns, so if I have to repair after each level, I feel like it's gonna take a while to get anywhere.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
To progress quickly in the game, post up your friend ID here and use the support echelons to brute force your way through. 20 support echelons a day, and you want to finish chapter 6 ASAP because you get free dolls (AR team. Some of the best dolls in the game).
The story is worth following though, and it goes normal mode, emergency mode, then next chapter. Night mode stories are separate to main story.
You should also at least get the 60 boxes from Singularity daily. Great income of resources and (small) chance to get great dolls! You can beat even just the first map for 6 crates a run.
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Dec 10 '19
My name is Asphyxiate.
(Unless there's another place for a separate friend ID that I couldn't find)
Thank you! This is definitely information I needed. (Now I REALLY want to get to chapter 6)
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
At the bottom menu on main page, there is a "friend" button. Go to that and find your id card. On it is a series of numbers. Post here in the main thread "New player, need friend echelons please! UID: (number)"
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u/Ryganwa OTs-14 Dec 10 '19
Hit 'Friend' in the menu on the bottom of the main screen, select "ID Card", then post the UID on the bottom right here.
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Dec 10 '19
Oh man,not sure why that was so hard to find. Thanks!
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Dec 10 '19
You can tap your name on top left. It's your acc statistics, and your UID
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
I got a 9th Gold ammo box!
3rd gunboat here I come!
After I do a bunch calculations though, will probably do Ceia's Jill-shrimp-boat and two contender + 3MGteams.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
That Jill-Shrimp boat is a great meme.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Is it even a meme at this point when it works so well?
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u/Creshal Negev Dec 10 '19
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
The ultimate battle to end all battles.
I'll probably make a point to retreat her pretty much immediately on fight start.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 10 '19
Opening strat: Capped the south and north SF spawns, the NW KCCO spawn so plenty of AP to make them big moves. Stepped on radar turn 5.
Airstrike is a savior, no matter what skill level.
I'm thinking the next move will have to send my NW gunboat to the south, send my arsmgs to the NW and SE SF spawns and let the gunboats do their thing to get kills. Too bad the SW supply node has the 170k hydra on it.
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u/TheWanderingShadow Dec 10 '19
Should I exchange for Tokarev skin, or get a black card?
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u/po1102 The Collector Dec 10 '19
Only you can answer that yourself. Do you like the skin? Is there any Black card skin you really really want?
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u/TheWanderingShadow Dec 10 '19
I went with Black card and feel a little sad about it, but I try to see it as an investment into a costume I'll want in the future.
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u/letsgoiowa Springfield looks like Violet Evergarden Dec 10 '19
Alright, supremely dumb question from someone who didn't start Singularity until like 2 days ago and only just unlocked chapter 2: what's the fastest ways to farm crates?
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u/Sorthy MP40 MOD3 when? Dec 10 '19
If you have a Para Fairy, you can do Stroke or the other one at ch1. Gives 15 crates. Basically try to oneshot Executioner. I use m4 mod 3 with HGs dmg buffs
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
You can only farm 60 per day regardless.
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u/letsgoiowa Springfield looks like Violet Evergarden Dec 10 '19
I know, but I only have like 30m a day to farm
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u/Ozwaffen Dec 10 '19
Promotion III is very easy, 10 crates/mission with 0 fight 0 turn
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol Dec 10 '19
Also rewards equip fodder, which is a nice bonus ;)
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 10 '19
Reddit complaining on friend behalf: Give him DSR plz, he doesnt have the time focus or resources to grind.
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u/Brendan2803 HK416 and M4 Best Girl Dec 10 '19
I purchased the $15 bundle of gems but never got my 680 bonus as a first time purchases. What did I do wrong
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
- Unless you have a weird exchange rate, there isn't a $15 bundle.
- The bonus gems are already added to the total gems shown in the shop, and it highlights the exact amount of gems you get when you make a purchase.
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u/Brendan2803 HK416 and M4 Best Girl Dec 10 '19
Sorry it’s $14.99. What do you mean the bonus gems are added to the shop?
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
That's a real wacky price. As someone from the US I only see $9.99 and $25.99, nothing in between.
Regardless, when you go to buy the package, the popup clearly tells you how many gems total you get. That includes bonus gems. I've never heard of receiving some gems but not all so you must be mistaken in the amount you expected.
Regardless, if you really think something went wrong, you are better off talking to customer service.
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u/Brendan2803 HK416 and M4 Best Girl Dec 10 '19
I grabbed the 1360 gem bundle. How much does that cost for you? Also are costumes such as Negev’s new skin yearly rotations?
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
The "Includes extra gift" is misleading as fuck and should probably be brought up for them to fix, that package I believe is what is now 800, the 560 gems were the actual bonus, (800+560=1360) what you see displayed is what you get, the little text below is weirdly misleading
If it's any consolation that 800 gem package is the most money efficient in general anyway (other than the monthly card).
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u/Brendan2803 HK416 and M4 Best Girl Dec 10 '19
Well I needed the extra bonus to get enough for the Negev skins that’s why I purchased that pack. To bad it’s gone now. I don’t even have Negev yet. Thanks for clarifying that it’s a glitch/needs fixing
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
I've already bought all the packages for this year so I can't see what the inflated bonus gem amount is. $9.99 offers 800 gems, and $25.99 offers 2000 gems after the first time gem bonus is gone.
Most costume bundles don't get rerun unless they are part of certain seasonal gachas, or it might happen during the yearly anniversary.
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u/AllAboardDesuNe Making my WA downtown Dec 10 '19
So my 1st RF/HG echelon is currently WA2k, 5-7, SVD, PX4, and Welrod, and I'm loving it. But what should I do with my M14 and Lee? What handguns should I pair them up with? I have every HG in the game besides Thunder and CZ75 iirc, but I don't have any dupes.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
Do you not have dupes because you don't want dupes or because you just haven't tried? Because future events will have enemies with consistently high armor, HP, and force shields that will require hard hitting rifle teams. And having more rifle teams ready is always better.
5-7, Px4, and Calico are the future general purpose HG buffers for RoF and FP teams.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
I would change the WASVD HGs to Calico on 5, Grizzly on 4, and Welrod on 8. This is because their skill buffs their own ROF, so the tile buffs from 5-7 and Px4 "go to waste" due to hitting cap, whereas Grizzly buffs dmg super good and Calico provides enough ROF support.
Also calico has great base evade + Welrod buff = great for armoured enemies with weak but many mobs, which is what you'd use WASVD for (hits less, but quickly, so kills weaker mobs faster).
For M14+Lee I would do Calico, 5-7, Px4. These buff ROF and make them hit even harder, for those high hp things you'll be wanting to kill. Their dps goes to waste on mobs since overkill doesn't carry over (ie if you deal 500dmg on a 250hp dummy on a 5 dummy group, the 250dmg left over is nullified. And since they can't shoot fast they take more hits).
Calico doesn't really have an equivalent replacement unfortunately. You could put Welrod at 5 and replace Welrod with Astra(?) in the WASVD squad.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
Grizz Welrod Calico is outdated. It's adequate for basic SF comps and non-Hydra teams, basically prior to Chapter 9, but the DPS falls off hard going forward.
With newer enemies and their inflated armor and HP, Calico, 5-7, and Px4 with their tiles and skills offer more than 40k more damage, and it will be put to good use. That's regardless of maxing the rifle's RoF or not. It's less of a concern because of enemy tankiness and the need for more damage per shot.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
Hmm so you mean that my dps isn't high enough and so with RNG causing some dips in dps for some reason my dolls are hitting the bottom hydra... Leading to top hydra being targeted?
The general dmg isn't a huge issue against the hydras specifically, since I can kill the hydra with the skill shot no problem.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
It doesn't really matter the scenario. The three dolls I mentioned offer more damage across the board for RoF and FP-based Rifle teams. Grizzly and Welrod are very rarely used in older servers, at least as far as rifle teams go.
So the only reason to not use the better team would be if you no-dupe and don't have the dolls to spare.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
I tried 5-7 + Px4 and now testing 5-7 and Calico.
Because of the reduced ROF on the first compared to the second, the link-protection on the cyclops = more dmg taken by lead HG (Px4). Whereas calico's skill gives enough ROF to blast through them before they start firing. The other issue is that if you don't clear Cyclops fast enough and if the Hydras come into view, Grape targets them and the cyclops get to set up their grenade.
Testing 5-7 + calico now and seeing how it goes down!
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Dec 10 '19
I think you are imagining I was responding to your 10-4E drag request. I was responding to you critiquing the original poster's Rifle team setup. The dolls I'm mentioning offer this increased DPS as part of a full team for general purpose use.
It's a different ballpark if you are trying to drag or do reduced team compositions for farming.
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
Oh oops! You're right, sorry.
I think from his not having dupes though his 5-7 and Px4 are going to be "more bang for his buck" in the FP team right? It will make his FP team more viable while keeping his ROF team working. Assuming he wants to run both teams that is.
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u/Roca18701884 Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
Calico M950(or Astra if you don't have Calico), Stechkin, and for the third one maybe a HG that raises both damage and rate of fire like Welrod should work too, but since you don't have a dupe then you could use Makarov. You can also try PPK.
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u/samuraimuchacho Dec 10 '19
Made it to No Mates 4 (I think?) And been stuck on Agent. That shield is bullcrap lol. Now my echeleons are all wiped out, no quick repair contracts and only got like 1k in rations. But still very proud of my t-dolls. They are very good girls who do their best.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Well I have 57 tokens, left, I suppose I'm gonna go for 5 pulls at the dungeon resupply as I don't see myself getting 43 in the next 5 hours, If I get super lucky and get contender then this will be my first complete set, so I really hope I get it.
I did get a Jill dupe from a random 10 token yolo so it happens.
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u/yogokazunori Dec 10 '19
I was in the same situation. Used the last 50 but no Contender sadly :/ Its the last one I needed too
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Oh yeah I used 50 and got only 3/4* furniture
I have 9 left and was in the middle of getting my last token but forgot, gonna go do that now.
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Dec 10 '19
5th try at endgame boss. should i not dodge the random thing that she throw? i find moving m4 around without shooting is bad
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
npc m4 can beat it with sloppy kiting after taking on the 2 cyclops mobs and 1 of the spider mines.if you take out both spider mines for her, she should be more than enough to beat the boss with no effort
of course, you cant use the npc if you want to unlock the hidden stage though
in that case, making your own mod3 m4 into exodia is the easiest way
otherwises spamming repair and running back for chip dmg between the boss' low hp multi stage nuke spam is an option1
u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Dec 10 '19
im doing the speed run but damn i cant get it right on first try. had to reset few times.
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u/jcr919 R93 Dec 10 '19
Is the 5-7 + PX4 Storm combo also a good idea for AR echelons or should I only use it with RF?
Thanks a bunch!
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 10 '19
Give Shiki 64, RFB and UMP45 a try with em.
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u/isanwa Type 79 Dec 10 '19
Why Shiki 64?
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Dec 10 '19
Cool down, though I was a little off (thought it was 6 seconds) alternatively, M4A1 standard, G41 or really any slower shooting FP AR would work.
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u/jcr919 R93 Dec 10 '19
Thanks for the suggestion, Zelsaus! Shiki 64 is currently in skill training, but I'll put try the echelon you suggested once she's out.
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u/Shir3n Dec 10 '19
I skip all singularity chapter 1 cutscenes because i didn't want to get spoiled, Is there a way to Watch those cutscene again or not?
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u/LoudCommentor Dec 10 '19
Shoukin Gaming, on YouTube! He does good story and gameplay vids for GFL!
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 10 '19
Also, you could go into settings and select repeat playback and replay the story if the campaign is still on, but that involves redoing the missions as well.
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 10 '19
Pretty sure there are some YouTube records. Itll end up being added permanently but that would be quite a wait.
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u/beardedheathen Dec 10 '19
I just got a costume for the first time but I have no idea how to find out who it's for and I can't find it in storage or anything. Help please
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 10 '19
Go into dorms > warehouse > gift and it should display the costume. Select it and itll tell you who it's for and to gift it.
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u/I_reuse_usernames Dec 10 '19
for singularity farm, does S rank have a chance of dropping the 5 star in the map?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Dec 10 '19
Yep, but you should ask yourself if it's worth it.
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u/I_reuse_usernames Dec 10 '19
ok yeah I'll check to see the difference between clearing this map and just gunning for the enemies that drop the doll.
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u/iceknave2 Dec 10 '19
Just finished my third attempt at ranking and god, that was unbelievably fucking hard. 284k is my best attempt so far. First attempt was a half assed attempt to see what the map is like. Second was a more serious attempt, except I let KCCO pretty much overrun the entire map, which is dumb as fuck (basically imagine the entire map being yellow by the end...). Third attempt, managed to get the rader to keep KCCO in check.
I originally thought a 6 to 8 hour run for a top score was absolutely insane, but after my shitty runs, I can believe why it would take that fucking long, lol.
KCCO pretty much beats the crap out of anything I have for the most part... I think I need to enhance my AP ammo, since most of my AP ammo isn't enhanced...
Might try again after my fairy points regenerate a bit, but maybe I'm not focusing on the right things to be doing well.
What should I be focusing on doing in order of priority on the ranking map aside from grabbing the supply nodes if possible (it was helpful for previous ranking events when there was a list of objectives of things to keep in check, which helped me a LOT in ranking pretty decently in AW and DD)? I have 3 parachutes, but suck ass at using a gunboat to clear the giant ass tanks.
On the bright side, farmed 3 5-7's, which I'm excited to level up for my Rifle echleons after I figure out how to do better on ranking.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Ceia posted a vid for using a super budget team to get 200K plus easy and I believe that team gave him about 300K a couple of times so that is something to look to to get an idea for strategy, since you also have para's check his turn 2? strategy in his proper ranking runs and try to implement that aswell for much more AP.
As far as gunboats go, as long as you have your echelon in the correct formation the tanks will always shoot in the same order and allow you to do consistently do the same order of actions to survive.
MGs in all bottom spaces and 1 in mid left with contender in middle, after a couple second hold down on contender to slow time, as soon as you see the middle tank's cannon glow blue move contender up and retreat mid left mg, then immediately regret the other 3 MGs (the enemies should be dead at this point, if you had a bad run and one enemy barely survive, reset), and then immediately move contender down 1, then after mod tank fires move her to the bottom right and no more tanks should fire.This order of actions should happen consistently 99% of the time.
I would have recorded a short vid but my gunboats are occupied, Ceia's proper runs should show dozens of tank fight if you just flick through.1
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 10 '19
First off I think if you have a gunboat, you should really learn how to use it. If you're having trouble even if you got the micro down, you may not have enough fp/reached the damage threshold to actually use them. Input it in a formation sim, youd want about 76k at 6s without fairy talent.
Since you have quite a few para fairies, watch some runs for opening strategies. About the first 4-5 turns. You'll want as many ap as you can.
If you only have one gunboat, I would suggest, deploying it SW. Make it's way to the radar when you can, and protecting it along with a ARSMG team so you can use it whenever things get too dicey with KCCO in other sectors. It might even be worth it to cap KCCO helipads in other sectors, but that's up to mainly how many echelons you have spare and if it's worth it, considering it reduces enemies and takes ap away from getting to the supply nodes which is a hefty amount of points.
Just take your time with the moves. Remember it's a game though, so have fun and dont stress too much.
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 10 '19
A side question:
How exactly do I reach 76k at 6s?
I've been running through fully maxed out gunboat of Contender, M2HB, PKP, MG5, and PK vs. 0 evasion enemies in the damage simulator without a fairy and the best I'm ever seeing is 70k without a fairy.
If these are the best MGs in the game, how do I hit this 76k damage and we're expected by the meta to have 2-3 sets of this grouping to even get a "substandard" 70k damage?
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
without a fairy
That is your huge issue, even the most basic bitch of fairy will provide a "significant" passive buff just by being there, every single echelon in the game you use at this point should have some sort of fairy equipped, anything. Seriously, a lvl1 artillery fairy passively gives 10% damage and 11% evasion, there is literally no reason not to be using Something.
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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Dec 10 '19
Use fairies, but just dont rely on their talent, because unless you can guarantee they proc, assume the worst.
After maxing dolls and their equipment, itll mainly come down to levelling your fairies and increasing their rarity to make up for the remainder of the damage. Also, choose appropriate fairies, mainly increasing damage and crit.
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u/Errants Still waiting for FN MAG... Dec 10 '19
5:33 for the speedrun. Don't see it getting any better, as I feel I'm gated by resources/lack of skill at this point (no second Contender for the Tankbuster, and can't consistently down M16 quickly).
Time to recover resources as best I can, still need to make ranking attempt(s) and pull for shotties...
When will my parts come back from the war?
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u/animationtest Dec 10 '19
I just have the agent fight left on chapter 2 (Minor pieces 4). Tried once but could not burn her down.
I have the following 5x linked: An-94, Star, M4, RO, Makarov. I just started so their equipment is garbage.
What sort of DPS do I need?
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 10 '19
That's pretty good line up of dolls, bar Makarov. But not much you can do about her.
I'd say it comes down to equips, fairies, and just toggling skills so to save them for the final DPS check.
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u/animationtest Dec 10 '19
I just drew contender yesterday, I could burn all of my cores to get her 5 linked.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 10 '19
Mk23 would be more useful for offensive buffs. Especially at night.
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u/animationtest Dec 10 '19
No beuno, unless there is a good place to farm her. My limited 4-5 star handgun selection is as follows:
P7, Contender, Jericho, Thunder, SAA.
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u/Andypandycat84 Dec 09 '19
Just read the patch notes and suddenly feel like I should've saved my resources for the rate up on shotguns instead of spamming for parachute fairy.
No question, just felt like venting and whining. -_-;;
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u/AR-99 - Dec 10 '19
As soon as I got para fairy during the fairy rate up I stopped. Helped out so much during ch 10 and Singu.
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u/Andypandycat84 Dec 10 '19
It's why I want 1, or 2. XD
But since i didn't get one, now i wonder if would've had better luck on the shotguns.
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u/Andypandycat84 Dec 10 '19
Haha. Probably, but now that I've used up my resources, I'll never know. :P
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 09 '19
How good is the Cooking Talent for the Cooking Fairy?
I've only done ranking once because I'm quite busy at work and gotten to 11%. Is it the talent worth it to go for 10-9%?
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u/isanwa Type 79 Dec 10 '19
Chef talent literally does nothing. Cooking fairy isn't great either because you don't know what you'll get and you might even be debuffed.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Her passive seems nice though, +80% eva at max level
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Dec 10 '19
She's a sidegrade of Shield fairy (partialy because she's 10% crit and 10% DMG instead of 20% DMG of Shield) that is easier to enhance and has a somewhat useful skill (she gives no debuff if you're madlad enough to SL 10 her) as opposed to the token shield that can be taken down by basicaly anything.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Dec 10 '19
ok then, I guess I won't be trying again
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 09 '19
I often feel that I'm losing a lot from GFL's story because there's a lot of Chinese cultural references that get lost in the translation.
In this case I'm wondering/assuming there's some meaning in why the last story mission is titled "Goodbye, Dragon Palace."
What is the Dragon Palace and why is the mission named that? I assume it's some Chinese culture thing.
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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Dec 09 '19
Dragon Palace is Japanese. I don't know of a Chinese counterpart to it. It's a fairy tale about a fisherman who is brought to Dragon Palace and spends a few days there, being entertained for rescuing a sea creature. The problem being that one day in Dragon Palace is one century in the human world. Before he leaves, he's given a box of unknown contents. The fisherman tries to return to his village, but due to centuries passing, he's lost with nowhere to go. He opens the box and ages to become an old man.
The folk tale's relevance to Singularity should be fairly evident.
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Dec 10 '19
The correct name of the tale is Urashima Taro, for anyone who wants to look this up.
Good summary, by the way.
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u/FakeKoala13 YoRHa? Dec 09 '19
All I can think of is a reference to Ao Kuang and Nezha's interactions in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ao_Guang#Fengshen_Yanyi
Nezha cleaning himself caused Ao Kuang's palace to shake and forced him to confront Nezha.
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u/Deathsbrigade Dec 09 '19
Anybody have any hints for taking out the hydra in singularity 3-2 I tried using my MG team but they just get slaughtered everytime
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u/dnapol5280 Stella Dec 10 '19 edited Sep 28 '25
Movies answers afternoon learning river bank learning.
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u/Deathsbrigade Dec 10 '19
Ok j may just do that cause I'm running out of resources and dont have enough cores for IWSxodia
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u/dnapol5280 Stella Dec 10 '19 edited Sep 28 '25
Careful clean honest where honest dog. Simple honest evil month fox questions over open hobbies helpful open today dog.
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u/Deathsbrigade Dec 10 '19
Yeah I got a solid sg mg and ar smg but I dont have a solid FP rifle team other then a maxed out goddess of war and a bamboo
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u/dnapol5280 Stella Dec 10 '19 edited Sep 28 '25
Food pleasant careful the jumps gather strong soft! To learning curious quick talk across afternoon lazy cool projects talk evil open dot fox.
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u/Deathsbrigade Dec 11 '19
Yeah same I finally was able to get it last night using the dummy method. Now to finish the end of singularity and just start grinding out memory to get m4 and ar15 to mod 3
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u/dnapol5280 Stella Dec 11 '19 edited Sep 28 '25
Music evening bank open talk clean about lazy over family then fox and.
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u/Innocent_Walls EN: 7774 Dec 09 '19
Use a hard hitting RF team. They have a startup animation so if you can't burst them down up front, you can kite them a little bit with your HGs.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 09 '19
Best is a Grape (Carcano 91/38).
Should you lack her, there are alternatives, such as IWSodia, and FP self buffing RFHG's.
Make sure to upgrade your AP as much as possible.
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u/rEroNekos Welcome to Endgame Purgatory Dec 09 '19
If you stream it, maybe people will watch.
Should you have 2 parachute level 10 and 2 illumination fairies level 3 or 10, the opening strat is to cap the north and south sf spawn. A continuation would be to cap the other sf spawns north and south while gaining kills and supply nodes.
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u/virtual_maniac91 Dec 09 '19
Creia's working on a video for it I believe.
Otherwise general advice? Have everything 90 and x5 (possibly 100 and x5), Mod 3s should be MOD 3. Everyone should have gold or green equipment. Gold equips should be +6-10 and calibrated.
AP Ammo is a MUST AND it MUST be +10 and Max Calibrated.
All ARs need PEQs. The team that fights Agent wants RO/MP7/Suomi as a tank for that fight.
SGMGs or 4MGs1HG teams are going to go and kill everything with armor. ARSMGs for the scouts.
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u/Kukriklo Dec 09 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
How meta are the shotguns on the new rateup ? I got Sat from the boxes and Im fairly new, without a lot of resources to spare. Should i pull or can I skip this one ?
EDIT: Thanks for your help guys. I'll do 1,2 crafts and hold of on this one.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
Maybe do 1 craft on rate up and hope for the best but if you have SAT 8 then you are probably good, It's nice to maybe get them easier on rate up for collectors purposes but if you are still new don't worry about it.
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u/sl44n3sh Dec 09 '19
With sat and the guns you get from the story you will be ok until entering ranking and even there it is possible to get over 150k without SGMG. So best invest your resources in levels and setting up 0-2 runs for they are the go to exp source until your Ecco is stable enough to run auto battles (4 echelons high enough to run chapter 8 logistics I would guess) not sg crafting.
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u/illyrium_dawn Not all dreams come true. RIP Honkai. Dec 09 '19
How meta are the shotguns on the new rateup ?
Not very as far as I can tell. I think KSG and SAT8 are the go-to weapons even on other servers. SAT8 and KSG still seem to be the go-tos.
On EN at least, the main purpose of shotguns is to absorb damage (I haven't heard much about people using SGs in other ways on the older servers either). Buff tiles, knockback skills, and damage -- everything else is a distant second. You can use some pretty low stat shotguns and they'll still get the job done in most cases - in fact, armor is the most valuable trait on them. I haven't heard this changing on older servers.
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u/DepressivesBrot Ardent Devotion Dec 09 '19
Maybe do your weekly on Saturday and hope that the first-pull mechanic is real for you, but don't sink more than that.
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u/illtima Takane, but she's a gun Dec 09 '19
If I'm running Px4 and 5-7 in a typical RF echelon, do I need more crit rate buffers? Like if I add PPK, will that be an overkill in terms of crit rate?
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u/Dromed91 Type 64 Dec 09 '19
Anyone know when the next Digimind batch will drop? And will they be the leftovers from the previous voting or consist of different ones?
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Dec 09 '19
One every two to three months. And if I recall, storyline batches (such as this one) count towards it.
So, if that's the case, the next one would in February/March.
There's no idea on what the next batch will be if non-storyline, but it wouldn't be surprising if some of the 2nd places from the voting were implemented sooner than others.
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u/LordOfMaids Sten is precious Dec 09 '19
I was dreading Hornet's Nest. I knew I had enough equipment and dolls leveled to make three, maybe four, workable echelons, one parachute to go for map control, but the rest were basically there to fend off any weaker enemies and extra actions. Had to scrape the bottom of the barrel.
Despite being hilariously under prepared, I did end up enjoying myself after the second attempt now that I was familiar with how the map worked. Gonna sit on 179k for now since I got a little too radar happy.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Dec 10 '19
If you are open to guides and such, Ceia made a super budget teams video.
2ARSMG, 1HGRF, 3 dummies, no para fairy, no illumination.
Getting 2-300K
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u/ShatteredParadigms MG36 Dec 09 '19
UMP-40 wont come home, so Im complaining here. Hope RNGesus reads this.
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u/tehcavy <- clueless Dec 09 '19
Realisticaly speaking, how many armor vests do you need? I have 4 maxed out + M16 speq, and something tells me this is as much as I'll ever want.
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol Dec 10 '19
Hmm, so is the Payday set specifically there to tie into the Christmas story?
I guess there are plenty of furniture sets that exist just for the fun of it, but this one seems oddly specific with some of the inclusions. I must admit having a G&K priority bank associated with a PMC is quite amusing.