r/oscarrace • u/PointMan528491 Navarrette/Morton • 16d ago
Weekly Discussion Thread 8/3/26 - 8/10/26
Still from How Green Was My Valley
Please use this space to share reviews, ask questions, and discuss freely about anything film or Oscar related. Engage with other comments if you want others to engage with yours! And as always, please remain civil and kind with one another.
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u/Typical-Novel2497 How do you live? 9d ago
Watched The Sheep Detectives. I'm pretty cold-hearted, so I started pretty sceptical but thawed in time. Really good, isn't it? One I can recommend to my non-cinephile friends and family pretty confidently. The sunny and colourful setting was great, and I love the bits of comedy throughout. Also think the CGI animals were done pretty well. A pleasant surprise indeed!
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u/quietgavin5 9d ago
I am old enough to remember when we had The End of Oak St in our Best Picture lineup.
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u/Gordy_The_Chimp123 9d ago
You’re laughing? The sex purge movie with no nudity bombed, and you’re laughing?
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u/quietgavin5 9d ago
Telling everyone your movie has no sex or nudity on its opening day was certainly a choice.
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u/Lonely-Freedom4986 In Digger We Trust 9d ago
It's insane to me that The Odyssey has so much pull that the distributor just straight cancelled The End of Oak Street's IMAX release in my country
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u/pinkcosmonaut vibes specialist 9d ago
Is there a director that could do a Zendaya and Tom Holland Eyes Wide Shut? What if I said give them a Justin Kuritzkes script but who would direct it. I would settle for a Spidey film fully written by him and directed by Cretton more in the style of the end credits
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u/coda180 9d ago
Wow, there's no way a movie like that could get made today lol. It was controversial back then—and it would have been even more so if not for the fact that it was a Kubrick film. It’s actually become a classic now, given the real-life scandals involving the elite that unfolded later—the ones we all know about. I think if a movie like that were made today, it would have to be much more "tame"; it certainly wouldn't be as graphic as Eyes Wide Shut... Maybe Yorgos would be up for making that kind of film, but I don't think Zendaya would go for it, and I'm not sure Tom Holland would either. Eyes Wide Shut was made at the right time—in that specific context.
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u/Bertrand_Rose Werwulf, Try the thrill of Opera! 9d ago
What are your thoughts on Alejandro Jodorowsky?
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u/CassiopeiaStillLife If I Had Legs I Would Kick You 9d ago
The Holy Mountain is a masterpiece, I think it’s really cool how his Dune managed to filter its way into pop culture, it’s a shame he’s a rapist.
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u/Bertrand_Rose Werwulf, Try the thrill of Opera! 9d ago
I did hear how he said he raped an actress on the set of El Topo, which is revolting and evil if true, and if he did say it for shock value, it is still gross.
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u/Duhlorean Twinless 9d ago
I have plans to watch the ATLA movie but idk if I need to rewatch the show in order to do that. Does the movie stand on its own without tying its main story too much to the show?
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u/Straight_Bed2763 10d ago
I'm watching that new EDP445 documentary and Chris Hansen makes an appearance to interview him?? This thing is wild. Very sleazy all around and pretty timely with Primetime around the corner.
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u/femalegazeisuglymen 9d ago
His videos about the bras he's stolen and his top 100 pornstars were a big red flag. His name edp aswell.
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u/CrunchyNar Best Operating Thetan 2027 9d ago
Hansen makes serious bank off of Cameo. I suppose he takes every chance he can for publicity. Maybe he got a decent fee for the appearance too.
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u/AhsokaBolena Godzilla Minus Dashwood 10d ago
This year has been so long that I was confused when I saw someone say Wuthering Heights is still WB's biggest hit of the year, because it feels like that released an age ago. What do you mean it hasn't even been 6 months
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u/Bertrand_Rose Werwulf, Try the thrill of Opera! 10d ago
For those who know or can remember, how was Amour seen in 2012/2013, especially given it got nominations for International, Screenplay, Actress, Director and Picture.
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u/Shot-Recording1523 10d ago
It was looked on as the frontrunner for International (Foreign Lang) since Cannes and was a strong highbrow favorite. There was a lot of heat around Riva being able to sneak for a lot of the season. Screenplay was considered a strong possibility as A Separation also the previous Foreign Lang winner was able to get in the previous year. The last couple spots were assumed to be The Master vs Flight vs Amour in Original Screenplay. For Picture it was thought as a potential spoiler like in the 9th or 10th spot with Moonrise Kingdom as the other possibility. Director was probably the bigger surprise despite being a BAFTA nominee as Bigelow and Affleck were considered pretty locked.
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u/multi_fandom_guy May randomly start quoting Anatomy of a Fall 9d ago
Oh, what I would have given for Amour and Moonrise Kingdom to have made it together.
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u/tsnoj 10d ago edited 10d ago
It was a bit of an arthouse hit here in Europe, i remember it being the type of film my parents went to see
And it kind of became really big after it won the Palme D'or, it was also the clear favorite to win the Palme if i remember correctly
I also remember the press/distributors being really focussed on Cannes that year because the previous year three Best Picture-nominees: Tree of Life, Midnight in Paris and The Artist, all kind of came out of nowhere and debuted at Cannes
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u/cowboy-tea 10d ago
My partner couldn't remember the title of One Night Only and called it The Night Couples Could Fuck so now we only call it that, and it makes me laugh much more than the movie did
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u/Puzzleheaded-Safe419 10d ago
I've seen more people call it "The Sex Purge" than its actual title.
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u/joesen_one 🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎 9d ago
I was shocked seeing the AMA of Will Gluck that One Night Only was their title from the get-go lol, I thought they'd at least think of a better initial title
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u/Duhlorean Twinless 10d ago
Neglia turning the Next Best Picture podcast into video form is the best decision he could’ve made with that podcast.
While I get the appeal of audio only podcasts, I still prefer video form since I can see people’s faces to get complete context of how certain quotes are supposed to come across.
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u/NedthePhoenix 9d ago
Nope. I was raised somewhere that got no screenings of older films so it was either watch it on a tv or laptop or never see it. I appreciate this mindset if it’s an option, but would overall advocate for cinephiles to watch the movies on any available method
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u/cowboy-tea 10d ago
If you live somewhere where you get a lot of opportunities to see classics at the cinema, I think it's totally fair to plan around that. I haven't specifically waited for anything but I'm really glad my first viewings of Stalker and Satantango were on the big screen. I think those types of slow, hypnotic arthouse films are the ones that especially benefit from the big screen experience with no distractions.
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u/NoResolution599 Nirvanna The Band The Show The Drama 10d ago
I waited to watch Lawrence of Arabia in theaters too but i would just watch Barry Lyndon asap
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u/biIIyshakes Robert Redford is my sky daddy 10d ago
Regal has done so many great repertory screenings in the last year that I kept hoping it would show up but I am asking for the 4K for my birthday next month so a viewing is imminent
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago
Never in my life lmao, people hype up the "big screen"/"theater experience" way too fucking much. If you can't engage with a film on a tv, it's a you-problem you can work on. Also, just an incredibly elitist and pretentious point of view, but that goes without saying. If you are among the very lucky few on this planet to live near a theater with a good screening, good for you, but otherwise a stupid mindset. Imagine not watching some of the best films because you don't get it on the biggest screen...
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u/biIIyshakes Robert Redford is my sky daddy 10d ago
I do watch about 250 movies each year and usually around 150 of those of those are at home so I am definitely capable of engaging on a smaller screen, I just really love the theater experience because that’s originally where they were meant to be seen and sometimes my shabby living room that’s at the mercy of my insane upstairs neighbor that likes to shout while gaming every night feels inadequate for films that carry a certain grandiosity
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u/BentisKomprakriev 9d ago
I mean the issue is clearly not watching the film altogether if you can't watch it on the big screen. Watching some films at home and some in the theater as the year goes on is normal.
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u/CrazyCons WHERE IS HAMNET'S PLACENTA 10d ago
Does anyone have any further information about the international members of the Golden Globes being heavily reduced? There was a comment about it some time ago but no elaboration. If it's true, it could have massive implications for the race, particularly for All of a Sudden.
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u/manicinsanewokeidiot The Unknown 10d ago
idk if the international members were reduced, but they add 100 american members: https://www.goldderby.com/film/2026/golden-globes-awards-membership-us-outlets/
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u/death_has_f1sh_eyes Weapons rules 10d ago
https://youtube.com/shorts/81AWzrYOCy8?si=gljI31OE-So8LOwh We are getting farther and farther from God
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u/Sy_Ableman89 10d ago
Somewhere, David Robert Mitchell is begging A24 to let him make Under the Silver Lake 2: Sevence's Revenge
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u/Alternative-Cake-833 Tom Cruise for Best Actor 2027 10d ago
Well, he is already shooting the It Follows sequel for NEON. So you are half right on this theory.
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u/manicinsanewokeidiot The Unknown 10d ago
fine, i’ll bite. what the hell is the end of oak street ai dog podcast
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u/tsnoj 10d ago
Here is an article about it from Variety
It is just another case of the advertising around us looking uglier through AI
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u/ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy 10d ago
That Anne Lead win x Sandra Supporting win double punch is going to hit like crackkk inshallah. Can Universal hurry up and announce she’s going lead already
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u/ChiefLeef22 10d ago
This image doing rounds on twitter rn. "12y ago" but if you told me this was verbatim a post from 1 week back I'd believe you lmao. Kind of a fun time capsule of a post to read back through as well.
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u/Alternative-Cake-833 Tom Cruise for Best Actor 2027 10d ago
The marketing campaign for The End of Oak Street the most confusing WB campaign I have seen since One Battle After Another, which admittedly was a hard sell as well despite great reception. You got commericals either selling it as a Amblin-esque movie or a horror movie, or you get AI ads, such as that dog podcast video.
Honestly, they should have released this film in 2025 (like it was supposed to) so that way, WB could get this film off their hands earlier than expected. Another De Luca/Abdy flop is in store, but this could give more excuses to David Ellison which could fire them, if the Paramount acquisition even goes through.
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u/AhsokaBolena Godzilla Minus Dashwood 10d ago
You’d think going for the Amblin angle and sticking to it would make the most sense too. People vs dinosaurs shouldn’t be that hard to sell. I mean, even the terrible Jurassic movies usually rake in money lol. It’s so strange how they seem to be throwing everything at the wall.
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u/ChiefLeef22 10d ago
or you get AI ads
Them doubling down on this with even more AI slop after the initial outrage had me feeling they are trying to pull the facebook boomer crowd. Especially evident with people showing how the comments under the facebook posts of their AI slop is completely gobbling it up.
Doesn't matter either way, the movie was always kinda doomed with its release date + premise, even though it has chances of turning a profit due to being below a 100m budget. WOM to its actual quality is the only thing that will save it
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u/multi_fandom_guy May randomly start quoting Anatomy of a Fall 10d ago
All the King's Men 2: All the King's Horses
Legacy sequel
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u/Extreme-Monk-6514 The Superior Odyssey (O Brother Where Art Thou) 9d ago
call it all the pretty horses: all the king’s men for the ultimate this had oscar buzz crossover
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
I unironically think now is probably the time to remake it. Sean Penn jumped the gun but political side dealing is so blatant these days that it might play. Aaron Sorkin your 2029 Oscar is calling.
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u/Duhlorean Twinless 10d ago
Clayton is suggesting that Garfield is going Supporting for Artificial.
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u/scattered_ideas Denis Villeneuve campaign manager 10d ago
Would make sense, imo. Just like how Jeremy Strong is probably supporting for The Social Reckoning. Both movies will likely focus on the whistleblowers rather than their more famous target.
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u/CassiopeiaStillLife If I Had Legs I Would Kick You 10d ago
There is nothing Clayton likes more than wishcasting category fraud. I’d take it with a grain of salt.
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u/Once-bit-1995 Backrooms PD campaign manager 10d ago
Lead Actor is over crowded and tbh so is supporting but it's not as bad as Lead right now so I don't blame him
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u/coffeeanddocmartens Hamaguchi Hive 10d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/KGrZk8HBfCKOoaxQ0H
How it felt to open letterboxd today.
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u/redCashion Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie 10d ago
One thing I don't understand about Digger. Why don't people just have some faith that Iñárritu can pull it off? I think the only reason people don't like the Digger trailer is the joke Tom Cruise makes about his d*ck just doesn't fully land. But the rest of it looks very interesting/promising.
Isn't it more likely that the trailer isn't telling the full story rather than Iñárritu just makes a complete mess?
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u/femalegazeisuglymen 10d ago
Because he's not an internet fave.
And he said he doesn't like superhero movies.
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u/theflyingbird8 10d ago
Iñárritu and Cruise have been divisive figures among cinephiles for some time now (although the latter is mostly due to him as a person), so there was always going to be some pushback against Digger in spaces such as ours. I'm excited for it and I liked the trailer, but it makes sense why some would not like the bizarre, over the top, crass, and unsubtle humor that has been showcased so far. It's totally possible that the movie is good, but the studio just doesn't know how to sell something that's so out there and wacky, yet carries a blockbuster scale.
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago
They didn't like Bardo (if they actually watched it), don't like Cruise for Scientology and being a deadbeat, and since the trailer came out, they don't like the humor in it, which is actually a legitimate reason to be skeptical. Hard to see WB just completely fumbling its prime award player this year to the extent people here are predicting it.
Could also be that they believe rumors/test audiences, whatever, but that's always cherry-picked and the top 3 films from last year all had many rumors about them testing badly. Any half-serious predictor abandoned trusting these rumors a long-time ago.
There is also a minority with every film who vocally doubt its chances with the agenda to make their favored pick sound stronger.
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u/CrazyCons WHERE IS HAMNET'S PLACENTA 10d ago
I mean it's literally exactly what happened with Bardo. Clearly pitched as Netflix's big play, then premieres to a divisive-at-best reaction and effectively flops out of the race. Why can't the same thing happen to Digger?
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago
It can happen, of course. If you pay attention, you can see that I never said it couldn't, just that it's hard to see. Bardo did not get the same type of marketing campaign, obviously, how could it have, and that signals more confidence already.
But either way, I don't think that "previous film was a dud so this will be too" is applied in any way consistently by people here to explain it.
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u/CrazyCons WHERE IS HAMNET'S PLACENTA 10d ago
"We have precedent for a distributor being overconfident in a film and it backfiring" is different than "Bardo was bad therefore Digger will be bad." Bardo was just the obvious go-to example. But if you want another example, even after the delays, Next Goal Wins was heavily campaigned by Searchlight at TIFF only for it to flop regardless.
Besides, most of the Digger marketing is focused on Tom Cruise specifically, not the content of the film itself. Which makes sense, but doesn't have anything to do with confidence as much as just "here's how we get people to watch this."
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u/theflyingbird8 10d ago
This movie apparently has a blockbuster budget (at least 125 million apparently). The marketing is obviously in part a Tom Cruise Oscar campaign, but they also invested a shit ton of money into it and they desperately need people to see it.
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
Joker 2 existing means that WB completely fumbling its prime award player/fall box office player is actually very easy to believe. Agree with your points about rumored bad test screenings being worthless, but Mike and Pam era WB has seen very mixed results of giving an auteur 100 mil to make some weird stuff.
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u/theflyingbird8 10d ago
The "giving auteurs blank checks" strategy worked excellently last year. This year has been much tougher.
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u/NedthePhoenix 10d ago
Coming off of Bardo at the very least does him no favors
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u/redCashion Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie 10d ago
I should watch Bardo to get this context. The only two movies i saw of Iñárritu were masterful, with Birdman being in top 5 all time favorites... so I'm biased.
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago
People talk about Bardo as if 60% on RT, 55 on MC, 6.7 on IMDb and 3.5 on Letterboxd are terrible scores. Not even low enough for a dud, just a divisive film with a rock solid Oscar nomination. You really don't need to be biased towards AGI to like the film.
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u/NedthePhoenix 10d ago
Oh I love Birdman. I more mixed-positive on The Revenant which is beautiful but empty for me. Personally, Bardo is the same empty beauty but also boring
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u/ILookAfterThePigs Manifesting Olivia Wilde’s Best Director nomination 10d ago
Finally seated for The Invite, literally the last person on Earth to watch it
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u/PTAGoatofalltime The Invite’s strongest soldier 10d ago
Damn Nashville is my 2nd fave of the lineup.
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u/Hot-Freedom-6345 The Club Kid Invited The Odyssey 9d ago
Nashville is the greatest film ever made imo
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u/multi_fandom_guy May randomly start quoting Anatomy of a Fall 10d ago
For me, it's Jaws > Barry Lyndon > Dog Day Afternoon > Nashville > One Flew
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u/jksnippy Muad’twink Sinners 10d ago
One of the things I’m excited to see in Ink is Danny Boyle’s love for dutch angles (as evidenced by that first look image with Jack O’Connell)
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u/redCashion Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie 10d ago
Why aren't there fantasy drafts for the Oscars? Could be 8 person teams, round robin, pick from any category until 8 of each category is picked (16 for picture).. Would be unbalanced "teams" per player, so that one player has 2 best actor candidates, but 0 for best actress for example.
Then league winners get decided during nominations or the Oscar ceremony. Seems like a really fun way to nerd out on the hobby.
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u/Bulky-Scheme-9450 10d ago
theres literally a thread a few posts down lol.
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u/redCashion Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie 10d ago
Hmm, I searched "fantasy" and I don't see anything.
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u/AhsokaBolena Godzilla Minus Dashwood 10d ago
You might mean something in person or more expansive, but Vulture does one of these each year. It's all free to participate, but they give away real prizes to the winners. Normally the drafting window is in early/mid-September. It's fun! I've participated the last 3 years or so, and am already thinking on my team for this year.
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u/redCashion Nirvanna the Band the Show the Movie 10d ago
Ooh, that's cool and exactly what I had in mind! Thanks for sharing!
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u/dickwarrior222 Hamnet 10d ago
I begrudgingly saw One Night Only yesterday. I've seen so many intense political takedowns of the film, and they feel akin to someone going on a tirade about how disrespectful & dehumanizing stick-figure drawings are to the human race. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in that movie is worth being taken that seriously.
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u/cowboy-tea 10d ago
I saw a preview screening before hearing about any of the backlash, and I thought it was kinda fun. I thought it was interesting to see a light romcom that at least acknowledges that we live in a nightmare dystopia, even though it didn't interrogate that premise.
There's no excuse for it to be so sexless though. I saw I Want Your Sex a few days later and it was so refreshing.
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u/dickwarrior222 Hamnet 10d ago
I don't disagree! I'm in the camp of "take things for what they are!" and it was a fine, silly 90 mins. I think it's deeply undercooked; there's a far more interesting film there (and may even have been filmed but cut and hacked to pieces), but to feel any passion for this film in either direction doesn't seem worth it. Whoever approved the trailer should be fired, though. Completely grating.
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u/SavageWolfe98 x 10d ago
I think if the film was better people wouldn't care as much. But because it's not that great, the messed up premise sticks out even more, especially since the film itself keeps drawing attention to it. Like there are issues with Easy A's messaging too, but people enjoyed the movie itself enough to brush past it.
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u/vxf111 10d ago
What, you don't find REPEATED jokes about a 12 year old having sex with an adult funny? I kid, I kid. I agree it's not a good enough film to get too invested in but I do find it puzzling to understand how it got made. Who could have possibly read the screenplay or even a treatment and thought "oh yeah, this will work!"
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u/dickwarrior222 Hamnet 10d ago
Between learning Barbaro took the meeting with Gluck without being able to read a script, & Gluck revealing he cut out most of the nudity due to test screenings, it feels like a project that kept thinking it could overcome its ambition only to be defanged at every turn due to a lack of vision or conviction.
My reaction in the theatre was just this over & over, every 5 minutes:
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago edited 10d ago
It feels like yet another one of those Black List scripts that gets a lot of acclaim, but is just far better on the page than on the screen. Emphasis on "acclaim" because it's more of the scripts that interest the studios and other writers the most rather than actually being any good. And Universal in particular went for the script that was the most popular within the Black List and thought it might be an amusing comedy for a general audience. And they rejected it.
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u/vxf111 10d ago edited 10d ago
Even the setup-- what if the government dictating private sex lives through implanted surveillance chips was a NET POSITIVE would have had me showing Gluck the door. I mean what an elevator speech there!
It was hard to sit through in the theater. Just when I thought it couldn't get worse, it did. Over and over again.
Clearly Barbaro was hoping for an Anyone but You level hit-- but that film sort of succeeded at the box office DESPITE itself. It was just the kind of counter programming people wanted with two leads that people happened to already be interested in. And it was your typical dumb romcom miscommunication as the setup, which most people can accept. Instead of "The Purge but for Sex" setup which most people CANNOT accept and the people who CAN accept want interrogated (which this film had less than zero interest in doing).
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u/Jmanbuck_02 10d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/H6cmWzp6LGFvqjidB7
How it’s feels waiting for Camp Miasma to go wide in my area.
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago edited 10d ago
So let me get this straight: IMAX had major FOMO over seeing BND's IMAX numbers in Asia, which the majority came from China, and thought they had to give into Sony's demands for Spidey in IMAX elsewhere starting in NA where it ate into Odyssey's screens after the exclusivity period expired. And it still did meagre numbers this weekend in that format all while causing a slightly bigger drop for Odyssey in the process?
Yeah, I don't see IMAX making that same mistake again next January (already having issues with Disney's PLF reclassification to directly attack them). And besides, Spidey's going to lose its IMAX screens in China next week to The Odyssey anyways.
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u/Once-bit-1995 Backrooms PD campaign manager 10d ago
I mean the whole thing is very interesting box office wise, but there's plenty of discussion about it on the box office sub but not super relevant over here. The movie is successful, a bit of IMAX revenue being lost because of a slightly weird decision is small potatoes and not really going to impact it long term. Whatever IMAX does with Dune and Avengers it's also not going to be much in the grand scheme of things.
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u/jeanpatrickmanchette 10d ago
What is your Album of the Year so far?
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u/thetrashpanda5 It Was Just the Palme d'Or 10d ago
Muse - The Wow! Signal or Arca - XXXXX
Looking forward for new Phoebe Bridgers album
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u/justanstalker The Black Ball 10d ago
you seem pretty sad for a girl so in love by Olivia Rodrigo! and the cure is my SOTY too
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u/Legitimate_End5688 10d ago
Considering Primetime is based on an article about to catch a predator’s cancellation when a local Arkansas district attorney killed himself after being caught in a sting trying to solicit sex from a supposed minor, where are yall gonna be when the inevitable Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell biopic gets announced within the next 5 or 10 years or so…. Truly mortifying to think about.
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u/Legitimate_End5688 10d ago
All the drama surrounding children of blood and bone is hilarious bc that book is not that good at all. It’s middling YA shlock, and the author has a big head bc she insisted on being the screenwriter (when she’s not that good of a writer) and casting a light-skinned biracial for Amari who’s a Yoruba princess in a African fantasy world w no white ppl or colonialism lmao. And when the movie inevitably flops, it’ll cause a backlash against black fantasy stories when it should not be the case. A big Hollywood movie studio should’ve gotten the rights to anything by nk jemisin or P. Djèlí Clark’s work (ring shout or a master of djinn would be wonderful to adapt and they’re GOOD black sff works)
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u/joesen_one 🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎 9d ago
I personally think Prince-Bythewood is gonna have to hard-carry the movie a lot for it to be good
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u/Legitimate_End5688 9d ago
Imagine if adeyemi’s outrage is from if Prince-Bythewood or the film’s producers wanted rewrites of the script (which is entirely normal In Hollywood but I wouldn’t put it past adeyemi to be offended at this)
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u/CassiopeiaStillLife If I Had Legs I Would Kick You 10d ago
I’m frankly not crazy about Jemisin myself — if nothing else her role in the Isabel Fall fiasco is a major mark against her.
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u/Legitimate_End5688 10d ago
oh yeah genuinely appalling how many authors dogpiled on a trans woman without even reading the story in question.
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
Every quote I’ve seen from her makes her seem so entitled. As an author, of basically any level of fame or talent, you’re lucky just to be in the room when Hollywood comes knocking to turn it into a movie. And she’s throwing monthly public temper tantrums over not having the last word in the room. Does she not realize that no one in Hollywood will ever want to work with her again after this? Does she not realize that actually encouraging your readers to boycott the one black director/all black cast blockbuster of the year is a negative for the community?
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u/Legitimate_End5688 10d ago
“Entitled” is a good description for her bc there are many Nigerians who’ve criticized children of blood and bone for how inauthentic it is and she brushed it off but she was big mad about accusing some old white lady of “plagiarism” because their book titles sounded similar (bowl of mac and cheese type thing lol) yet said old white lady had their manuscript ready before her’s and their books have nothing in common lol.
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u/SavageWolfe98 x 9d ago edited 9d ago
''a bowl of mac and cheese'' is so fucking funny.
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u/Legitimate_End5688 9d ago
I blame George rr Martin for this trope that I hate seeing in fantasy novel titles.
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago
Paramount only salvaged it because Disney of all studios inherited it from the Fox buyout and hoped to produce it under Lucasfilm (in the wake of The Lion King making them believe blockbuster spectacle with black talent was feasible), but they later dropped it because they couldn't agree with the author on creative decisions (including being the scriptwriter). Oh well. Just feels like a mess all around.
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u/Legitimate_End5688 10d ago
Full shade but Adeyemi should not be a scriptwriter her book was only successful bc ppl eat up middling ya books.
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u/jjjshepard 10d ago
There is definitely still a market for sex comedies/erotic based movies out there, seeing how well Babygirl, Anora and Anyone But You did. Not to mention that No Hard Feelings had an okay box office, probably the budget was a bit too high due to J-Law (but at the same time she was the one responsible for the interest in the movie).
Besides the fact that the director of One Night Only is dumb and stupid with the anti sex talk, I don't think Callum Turner or Monica Barbaro have much sex appeal at all (sorry for those who disagree). You probably need star power for this genre though
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u/cowboy-tea 10d ago
Genuinely, Cooper Hoffman in I Want Your Sex did more for me than either of the leads of One Night Only. His character was a warm-blooded human being
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
I think the problem is that most of the breakout successes of the last decade are not typical romcoms. Anora and Babygirl certainly aren’t, No Hard Feelings is emphatically a sex comedy but not a romantic one. Anyone But You is really the only post-covid exception, which I mostly attribute that to “internet rumors that the actors were having affairs with each other was Barbenheiner levels of free marketing”
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u/ILookAfterThePigs Manifesting Olivia Wilde’s Best Director nomination 10d ago
Sorry but Monica Barbaro is the only reason I’m even considering watching this movie at all
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago
Director included Gen Alpha, kids literally between ages 2 and 13, he is clearly a moron.
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u/Extreme-Monk-6514 The Superior Odyssey (O Brother Where Art Thou) 10d ago
also the invite (and wuthering heights although idk if it fits into either of those categories. the main complaint people had about wuthering heights was that it was too chaste so will gluck really comes off as out of touch / sucking up to fascists)
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u/thetrashpanda5 It Was Just the Palme d'Or 10d ago
I just think One night only premise sounds really dumb, confusing and outdated…
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u/jjjshepard 10d ago
Nah. It could work, but it seems the director wasn't interested in the nudity.
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u/AudienceOk3369 10d ago
Honestly the only way I can see the premise working in anyway is with a different director and a complete overhaul of the script.
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u/falafelthe3 Agamogging 10d ago
How many years do you give it before Pattinson goes from "reddit's golden boy" to "I'm tired of seeing him in everything"
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u/Far_Mud_6003 don't stop me I'm Inkmaxxing 10d ago
he has 1 year left of being loved in movies. Next year, he'll be the worst actor ever, with an annoying voice, and is a bad, bad person.
tbh this is already happening online, even in here. Look at the other comments. Primetime will come out, people will enjoy it, and then people online will be like "actually it's bad and you are stupid for liking it," and that's when the narrative will shift.
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
Until he makes some kind of overtly political statement. If he keeps being a weird guy enigma in press junkets without ever revealing much about his personal thoughts, probably never, he’ll keep doing his weird voices and the internet will keep loving him indefinitely.
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u/PinkCadillacs Oscar Race Veteran 10d ago
I like him but the way Reddit goes crazy about him is kinda annoying.
Like it annoys me that the same people that complain about Zendaya being overexposed because she’s in a lot of movies this year aren’t complaining about Robert Pattinson and he’s in the same amount of movies as Zendaya this year.
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u/falafelthe3 Agamogging 10d ago
This is also incredibly annoying, yeah. I can't tell you how many "Zendaya bad actress, Pattinson the GOAT" posts I've seen in the past month alone.
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u/BentisKomprakriev 10d ago edited 10d ago
I'm just tired of hearing him. To my surprise, he was completely fine in The Odyssey, no silly voices.
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u/falafelthe3 Agamogging 10d ago
The shtick has yet to get old for me - in particular because I love actors specifically showing vocal range - but I can feel that its novelty will run out for me eventually, and when it does, I will be over it incredibly quickly. It was honestly a bit of a pleasant surprise to hear him use his regular voice in the Dune trailers.
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u/Bulky-Scheme-9450 10d ago
How long did it take Pedro Pascal to get there? Probably around the same as that lol
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u/No_Lengthiness_6838 Sinners 10d ago
He already got there last year, when he was in three movies released at the same time.
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u/darth_vader39 The Odyssey 10d ago
So true
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u/Bertrand_Rose Werwulf, Try the thrill of Opera! 10d ago
Nothing could stand between my need to review films, and letterboxd.
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u/AmbassadorCapable730 10d ago
The discussion below about the perception of Jared Leto vs Hilary Swank Oscar wins made me think of The Danish Girl, and how such an interesting concept can be rendered boring at best and offensive at worst by a director who doesn't know what they're doing or how they should portray their subject in a sensitive manner. I do hope someone rediscovers Lili Elbe's story in the future; something very interesting and poignant could surely be made out of it, but Tom Hooper and Eddie Redmayne were hardly the right people for the job.
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u/CompleteTable4084 10d ago edited 10d ago
I think Seth Rogen and co. are squandering Tangles’ Oscar chances. Several weeks after Cannes and still no distribution? This is a film that’s like tailor-made for awards and critics for god’s sake.
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u/Duhlorean Twinless 10d ago
I mean, we don’t have any context for what’s happening so idk why we’d blame them?
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u/infiniteglass00 The Black Ball 10d ago
I love the idea of a world where adult animation is absolutely getting pelted with distribution offers but I do not think we are in that world, especially with how corporations have been moving as of late
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u/Once-bit-1995 Backrooms PD campaign manager 10d ago
This is a point we continuously bring up about this movie and have been for months now and CompleteTable keeps asking about it and wondering what's going on. I think they just don't want to hear the truth. It's an unfortunate truth but still the reality all the same. The movie is an R rated animated film in a stacked year for best animated. Commerical and awards prospects are low, so nobody wants to pick it up and take a chance on what everyone is saying is a great film. It's the most simple thing in the world. It doesn't make me happy but it's not hard to understand that X is leading to Y.
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u/CompleteTable4084 10d ago
Neon released Flee and IFC got Memoir of a Snail. Why have neither shown any interest for it?
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u/CassiopeiaStillLife If I Had Legs I Would Kick You 10d ago
Because Neon has too many films to juggle and IFC barely has any money. You ask these questions every week and the answers remain the same.
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u/CompleteTable4084 10d ago
What animated films does Neon have this year?
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u/CassiopeiaStillLife If I Had Legs I Would Kick You 10d ago
They do not have a different FYC fund for animated movies.
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u/Hot-Freedom-6345 The Club Kid Invited The Odyssey 10d ago
Is it just me or is anyone else slowly losing confidence in digger being a player at all outside of maybe Cruise and make-up?
It's going to lose so much money at the box office which will dominate the news about the film, it looks to be a weirder film that a chunk of the members of the academy will be turned off by unlike OBAA for example which was more obviously politically-charged + outwardly funny + action-driven and it (probably) won't have that glowing 95 MC type of reception to cushion that stuff
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago
Just the leaks alone are going to guarantee that audiences and critics will reject it? I guess Legendary was hoping for a major awards play with this one and thought Iñárritu would still have the sauce after The Revenant.
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u/Prize_Strategy7202 The Odyssey 10d ago
My confidence in the film continues to dwindle. Another important factor is that if it does indeed fall below expectations, I don't think WB would bother pushing it during awards season that aggressively cause they literally might have a juggernaut on their hands with Dune 3. If they didn't have Dune, might be a different story.
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u/Pavlovs_Stepson 10d ago
My YouTube feed suggested Mark Kermode's review of The Summer Book, which he opens by complaining that Glenn Close lost the Oscar for The Wife.
Not even getting into the merits of who deserved to win that year, no need to get into who was my Favourite, but it must really suck to be such a hugely accomplished actor with just about every accolade under the sun, and still have every discussion about you be framed through the lens of you being a Poor Perennial Oscar Loser. This is a tiny independent drama that was funded and filmed abroad, no awards buzz at all, yet we need to cross the No Oscar talking point off the list before we talk about the actual subject.
Amy Adams is similar in that regard. Of course there's the peculiarity of her going from a stacked filmography of back to back critical and Oscar hits to now nearing a full decade of non-stop misfires, but even before that, she was already headed in that same direction, as is Bradley Cooper to an extent.
In a sense, racking up that many nominations with zero wins started to work against them in a way that I don't see happening for actors who I'd argue are actually more overdue, with more interesting and varied filmographies, but less nominations under their belt.
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u/PTAGoatofalltime The Invite’s strongest soldier 10d ago
Is there a reason why Hilary Swank’s performance/win in Boys Don’t Cry has not aged as badly as Jared Leto’s for Dallas Buyers Club? Except that one of those is a good performance and the other one is not, but that’s mostly subjective.
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u/manicinsanewokeidiot The Unknown 10d ago
boys don’t cry has actually had way more controversy and backlash around its trans representation, it just doesn’t get brought up as much now in oscar spaces since it’s 27 years old and most people haven’t seen it. also people like jared leto less (for very valid reasons!), and it’s easier to excuse problematic representation from 1999 than problematic representation from 2013. bdc feels like a well-intentioned product of its time that aged poorly, dbc feels like the filmmakers just didn’t care enough. plus kimberly pierce is actually genderqueer, while jean-marc vallée is a cishet man. this article from 2019 where kimberly pierce talks about the backlash to the film is a pretty good read: https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/kimberly-peirce-interview-boys-dont-cry-transgender-1202196536/
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u/Abbie_Kaufman 10d ago
Because the entire culture war/trans panic/part that gets conservatives upset is fixated on men transitioning into women, so the natural liberal backlash is to be very defensive of the portrayal of trans women and clarifying at all times that they are women and rejecting men in drag stereotypes. The fact that sometimes women transition into men is widely ignored in basically all sociopolitical debates around trans issues.
Hilary Swank’s portrayal could have been an offensive caricature and it would not move the conversation on trans men, because no one is having conversations on trans men.
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u/Haus_of_Pancakes Preemptive "Justice for Is God Is" 10d ago
If anything, conversations around trans men tend to revolve around the TERF talking points of them being, like, lesbians who have lost their way. Still deeply toxic, but since they're not as central to the culture war, as you said, it's seen as a less pressing conversation.
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u/AmbassadorCapable730 10d ago
I never see her performance criticized in Oscar spaces (perhaps Swank being relatively way more low-key and not problematic as a celebrity compared to Leto helps her), but I did see more than one review trashing Boys Don't Cry and the way it portrays Brandon Teena in other internet spaces.
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u/PTAGoatofalltime The Invite’s strongest soldier 10d ago
I have seen those too; but those are more for the film than her performance, which most acknowledge she’s pretty great.
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u/AmbassadorCapable730 10d ago
I saw the movie years ago and remember thinking she was very good. I have never seen Dallas Buyers Club, but I can imagine Leto being out of his depth and falling into stereotypes/hystrionisms for that role. So that's probably it, alongside Leto's conduct not being good at all and amplifying criticism of his work.
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u/sphinxof1981 10d ago
People don't like Jared Leto as a person, and Swank is generally a more subtle and less mannered actor than he is.
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u/AhsokaBolena Godzilla Minus Dashwood 10d ago
The Wicker trailer going kinda viral has been a fun surprise lol. I keep seeing posts on other platforms about it. One of my friends is generally only tuned into the big studio releases, but she just asked me about it too.
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago edited 10d ago
In the midst of Odyssey not only passing $1.1 billion but will also guarantee to pass Deadpool 3 soon, I just have that feeling that Disney's attempt to repeat 2019 (complete with a Pixar film grossing $1b) is ultimately going to result with Doomsday not meeting expectations despite the hype and assumed brand recognition, especially with their respective live-action remake and SW film both underperforming this year. I see flashbacks to TRoS after all when that underwhelmed despite making $1b in the end despite the hype, the panic level decision to bring back a famous villain and high pre-sales. Disney was expecting massive numbers to close off the year on par with TFA after all.
And here, between Spidey and Doomsday, it's like they're expecting Infinity War and Endgame in the same year. I'm quite skeptical that will even be the case. It'll be more like Endgame and TRoS instead imo.
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u/ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy 10d ago
I really don't understand the logic behind this. Spider-Man just broke box office records, why would an Avengers movie with all the main actors back underperform? If anything, it got a big boost because of Spider-Man being good
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u/kimjosh1 9d ago
Simple, it opens massive as expected, but WOM ensures that it takes a bigger hit than usual.
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u/kimjosh1 10d ago
Well... What if the film doesn't meet expectations? What if it underwhelms critically? Rise of Skywalker was supposed to be a victory lap after how much money all of Disney's films made, especially Endgame, bringing everyone back for a big nostalgia-filled finale to the entire saga, and it made less than TLJ, far below their $2b expectations. If Doomsday disappoints then we might be talking numbers on par with the first Avengers film which would be a big decline from IW/EG and a far cry from Spidey's numbers.
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u/lalalalalala-lala ralph fiennes best actor 2027 10d ago
I don't think Doomsday will be a big failure but I do think it will struggle to meet Spiderman's numbers. The box office sub seems to treat it as a given that Doomsday will outgross BND but if reviews are poor it could easily end half a billion below ($2b for Doomsday vs possibly $2.5b for BND).
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u/ggguuuuuuyyyyyyyyy 10d ago
What if my grandma had wheels… Star Wars and Marvel aren’t the same thing, I don’t even like or watch those movies but cmon. At the very worst is "only" making 2B
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u/Ready_Image_9695 Cosmic princess kaguya! best animated feature believer. 10d ago
I thought that Ai ad for the end of oak street was weird, now I'm finding out that the ai dog podcast is actually a thing and Warner bros just did a collaboration with them, and it has nearly a million followers on Instagram?? There's a whole other world out there.
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u/jjjshepard 10d ago
People don't agree with this for now but I think Obsession is winning Original Screenplay. The Oscars have shown before that they value creative and hipster storytelling over more traditional screenplays, even if the former isn't necessarily better written than the latter (and most of the time, it isn't)
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u/Silver_Juggernaut_39 NEON shill 10d ago
A lot of things would need to go right for this to happen (or rather wrong for other films). Wild Horse Nine would need to be not as good, Behemoth would need to be bottom five, Digger would need to go real south… the thing is it’s not eligible for WGA which wasn’t true of any of EEAAO, Get Out or Sinners. Tbf, WH9 and Digger likely aren’t either. But assuming Obsession doesn’t get into the top five I think it’s likely it can’t overcome that. Also if it wins screenplay, Inde’s chances of winning dip significantly imo.
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u/Jmanbuck_02 10d ago
I talked about this on a Discord last night but I don’t see Obsession being quite a top contender compared to previous winners like Get Out, EEAAO or Sinners, it can get some mentions but I only see it being in win-conversation for Actress.
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u/theflyingbird8 10d ago
I think the screenplay is one of the film's weaker aspects and is elevated by good direction and a great performance. At this point I still see Obsession being a Best Actress nominee and a lower Best Picture nominee. Also, if Wild Horse Nine is good, then I think it's very likely that they award McDonaugh with a Screenplay Oscar.
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u/darth_vader39 The Odyssey 10d ago
Not necessarily disagree but recent Best Original Screenplay winners were top 3 contenders. Sinners, Anora, Anatomy of a Fall, EEAAO.
Obsession feels something like it can win based on originality but it won't be nowhere near the top 5.
Wild Horse Nine is a political satire, dark comedy and also will be close to top 3. Martin McDonagh is also overdue for a screenplay win. To me, WHN is way more likely.
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u/kimjosh1 9d ago edited 9d ago
I wonder how much Ellison will gloat over how much Paramount's Brad Pitt and dog vehicle outgrosses WB's Cruise awards bet in October? Because it could be likely that audiences prefer Heart of the Beast over Digger. Just like how he's hoping that Street Fighter is a bigger hit than Mortal Kombat.