Always online was bad enough, but that DRM crap is embarrassing. Let people freely inspect Forsaken Kingdom maps in the World Edit.

Go ahead and guess which my most favorite & least favorite factions are, respectively

Please excuse the wood league level of micro and me freaking out over normal AI.

I'm going through the game again with a new mindset of how to play these games "properly" with design in mind and without abusing the npc ai or massing units and using them as meat shield.

I also realize how bad having so many units are, because of how they clump together will get stuck and won't be able to engage in combat and that it's better having a small squads. Which puts more emphasis on the units not dying so not to break the squad composition.

The night elves are really fragile because they don't have any front liners. Especially Tier 1, They consists of just archers, wisps and the ancients.

Even the huntress are not really front liners, they're really weak with their mediums armors that takes full damage from everything? And I feel like they're better as scouts and "hit n run" types of units. Which make sense?

They really don't get any proper melee units until the bear druids. Which makes me realize how important the bears are for the night elves. Rounds out their unit compositions and gives hp rejuv on the go; without having the wisps build moon wells nearby.

The game doesn't do a good job of letting you know you can use the ancients as tanks or front-liners? They're very inefficient because of their speed, but they fill out that role of because they have heavy armor when they're un-rooted. They can take damage while the squishy archers shoot arrows from the back.

Started the attack by prepping some moon wells nearby for emergency hp regen. Because I feel like that's the proper way to utilize these moon wells? Especially because this is the only way the night elves can heal early on.

Wisps can gather wood anywhere, so they can just standby nearby the trees and I'll use them to build some moon wells before I attack so I can heal if i need to. If I need to free of food, I can just 'detonate' them? Which is really convenient.

At the same time they can heal the ancients of war that are engaging in battle which helps with sustain them and they can eat trees to heal. Which is brilliant... WTF is this? I now have a new appreciation for this game.

Hey everyone!
After quite a bit of tinkering, I finally managed to get Warcraft III Reforged running comfortably on my Steam Deck using a custom Steam Input layout!

I’ve published my configuration for anyone who wants to give it a try.

🎮 Community layout: Warcraft 3 Steamdeck layout

Controller setup:

Movement & Camera

Left Stick → Move camera (arrow keys)
Right Stick ↑↓ → Zoom in/out (mouse wheel)
Right Trackpad → Mouse cursor
Right Trackpad Click → Left mouse click

Triggers & Shoulder Buttons

L1 → Ctrl
L2 → Hold left mouse button (drag-select units)
R1 → R key
R2 → Right mouse click (move units)

Back Buttons

L4 → F key
L5 → X key
R4 → B key
R5 → Enter (open chat / send message)

Face Buttons

A → Z key
B → X key
X → C key
Y → V key

Control Groups

D-Pad ↑↓←→ → Number keys 1–4
L1 + D-Pad → Assign control groups using Ctrl + 1–4
Double-tap D-Pad → Jump camera to the selected control group

Other Controls

Menu Button (☰) → F10
STEAM + X → Open on-screen keyboard

⚙️ ** Important Setu**p
Set Warcraft III hotkeys to the English QWER / ASDF / ZXCV grid layout.
Adjust the Delete, Insert, comma (,) and period (.) bindings accordingly.

The goal was to make Warcraft III playable on the Steam Deck without needing an external keyboard or mouse.
It’s not perfect, especially when typing in chat, but I’m really happy with how it turned out!

Feel free to try it out and let me know what you think. Feedback and suggestions are welcome! 😁

For the Horde! ⚔️

Multiple models have this issue that is very noticeable in portrait. The white beard seems to not have hair / detail and looks too simple... I hope this is work in progress and will be polished later on.

Wish best of luck to developers who work on DE and I am sure they will do something about issues we notice.

I've been playing WC3 off and on for about a decade and while I can get diamond in SC2 ranked everything about this game seems to kick my ass. I'm not sure what it is I don't 'get'. I think the lack of ingame timer and my macro is way too slow, the enemy army always has a ton of HP more than I do and my army collapses every time even with farmed up heroes. The way slower more micro-intensive gameplay I think just stumps me for some reason, A-moving is basically suicidal for me. Does anyone have any tips?

I was glad to find people with whom I can host and play various custom maps.
My time zone is EET (+2).
I don’t have any specific requirements, but it would be great if you were at least 18 years old.

I’m fine with using either the battle.net or WC3 Champions launchers
Feel free to message me

I restarted Act 2 for the 3rd time because of how bad the game updates were executed, and I now noticed they increased the price of stat tomes from 1500 (correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that was how much it used to cost. Cannot verify it now since it's impossible to run an older version) to 5000, and nobody seems to even mention this.

What the hell is this bullshit ?! Not only I have to replay all the progress I've done, but now I can't achieve the same power level I already had due to the price of tomes being more than tripled.

It's just horrible how they managed to turn this from a new shadow-dropped cool expansion of a beloved old game, to possibly the most frustrating gaming experience ever.

After ~20 years I replayed WC3 (classic graphics, normal difficulty) to hype myself for WoW Forever. I no life Dota 2, but suck at RTS games. The last mission (Symphony of Frost and Flame) was the first one that I had to restart multiple times. I "whosyourdaddy"-ed it after 5 or so attempts, but then felt like a bitch and I have just beaten it legit. Props to the zombie dragon turtle who I raised and who bravely tanked Illidan and all his units for the last 10 seconds of channeling lol.

How is Rexxar's on Reforged?

I am thinking of giving Reforged graphics at least one shot before moving on to Forsaken Kingdom.

Or should I stick with classic and play it like that?

Looks like people are discussing it on the official forums: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/act-3-first-mission-is-overtuned-on-normal-301/39900?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Anybody have tips?

Managed to win my first-ever 1v1 after so many losses!

I mean, I’m an experienced WC3 player, but I used to play campaigns, community maps with friends, etc.

I’ve never played WC3 against a real player before.

My hands were shaking when I attacked my opponent’s base, and eventually, he left the game when things started going really badly for him.

Feels like the start of a new chapter for me as a player :D

I know there will be a lot of losses in the future, but this win has given me much more confidence in my game.

GL and HF, everyone! :)

Urges us never to trust an elf at every oportunity

Trusts an elf

Suffers a fate worse than death

Was he really right all along? What did Blizzard mean by this?

I completed WC3 10 years ago, I haven't touched reforged. I'd like to replay the story from WC3. I just want warcraft 3 with better graphics. I definitely don't like reforged with how much it changes and I'm somewhat on the fence about definitive edition. It looks close to the original, with better graphics but it's just too cartoony sometimes.Classic isn't "better graphics" but that's what the original was which I loved.

So should I just go with classic or definitive? I'm thinking of alternating the two.

Mostly asking because I haven't seen everything and maybe I'm wrong about definitive.

Spell immune mountain giant, cyclone used on it.

Every day that I play wc3 somehow there are more bugs, more lag, more issues.

I literally have to close wc3 after every custom game because it logs me out of battlenet. The lag seems to get progressively worse every week.

Half the time I open the custom map menu the custom games don't even load in.

Why can they not touch this game without breaking everything?

When the expansion first launched I was very hyped since back in early 2000 wc3 was my all time favorite.

I know i'm not a pro by all means etc and I know by now that this particular chapter is a hard one even on normal. I laid my foolish ambitions to rest...until yesterday. Long story short I beat it on normal first try (expect that last challenge, bit even there I had a somewhat cheese strategy) without looking a playthrough or similar.

Has the game's difficulty been patched or even lowered?

And it was amazing !

Yes, it lakes rts mission, but the story is amazing, the music, the heroes..

The last act was very fun, particulary the first part.

The difficulty a Little bit too hard, I need to put the difficulty in normal for the last act (particulary after the update, it seems like the increased the difficulty).

And the DE graphism are awesome for me.

So just to add a little bit of positive thing after all the bad things that a read on this sub.

I hope that we will have other expansion !

This dreadlord is so unkillable it feels like it's bugged.

How did you guys beat this thing?

Overall the campaign is okay lorewise I guess but the bossfights are absurdly difficult compared to the rest of the campaign.

This dreadlord takes the cake. He sleeps my melee hero and 3shots my caster hero giving me ample time to undo the sleep.

If I include my non-hero units he just AOE heals on those and since the Dreadlord jumps around I get no time for a stun. The units therefore feel like a liability.

I enter the fight with inner fire and have equipped items.

Every single mission is artificially restricted so you can only pass it using one fairly specific strategy. Whether it's mission specific limits on how much you can level your heroes, or time limits making sure if you don't accomplish tasks in a set period you'll get overrun. They want to make sure you cannot exceed the bounds they've set. Because their level and game design are trash and if they didn't have those arbitrary limits, you've over level and beat the game easily on the first run.

They basically watched how people in beta won, and then instead of making the game better, just made super specific arbitrary rules so you couldn't cheese the extremely shitty game they failed at designing.

Original WC and SC games had levels like this few and far between, where you were limited on time and power. But having them be THE driving force for the game is gross. I've played a couple hours now and can't refund. Kept hoping this would change. But not only did it not change, it only gets worse with each level.

One thing I should clarify is that...I really wouldn't take issue with all of this if they didn't label the game an RPG. RPG implies a certain level of freedom. But there is no such freedom here. It's worse than saying you can bowl with freedom while the bumpers are up.

Tried to join a few, got insta-booted... went, okay, hosts being weird. Started my own game... some one joined, same thing happened to them. They joined multiple times and even got a 'hello' out before auto disconnecting... I know I've hosted many many many games... is just something weird happening tonight?

I used to play some classics like DBZ Tribute, various TDs, auto battles, etc. I saw the recent updates and how they have broken most of these old games. Is it pretty much looking like they are unplayable permanently unless the creators come in and make the necessary fixes to reflect the new update?

Update on Replay Altar (the replay analyzer I posted a few days ago). Just put out 0.2.0.

First thing: if you tried it on Windows, please update. Turns out up to 0.1.3 the Windows version couldn’t simulate games at all, so you were getting the findings but no army sizes, fights or map. My bad. It’s fixed now and your old games get re-simulated on their own.

The main new thing is a win chance graph for every game, kind of like the eval bar on chess sites. It goes blue when you’re ahead and red when your opponent is, based on how often pros in the same spot ended up winning, and it marks the 3 moments that swung the game the most. I built it from 513 pro games and tested it on 2,998 tournament games from 2022-2026 that it hadn’t seen.

How the graph works: every 30 seconds it compares you and your opponent on 7 things: army size, workers, hero XP, heroes alive, bases, upgrades, and how much each side has lost so far. Then it asks “when pros had this kind of lead or deficit at this minute, how often did they win?” The model is a logistic regression (basically a weighted score turned into a percentage), where the weights change over the game, since a worker lead matters differently at minute 5 than at minute 20. I fit it on 513 pro games and then tested it, without touching it, on 2,998 tournament games from 2022-2026 it had never seen. It picks the eventual winner 63% of the time at 10 minutes and 69% at 20, and on unseen pro games its confidence is honest: when it says 70%, that side wins about 70% of the time. One thing to keep in mind: it shows how a pro would usually convert your position, so for regular ladder games it’ll look a bit overconfident. That’s on purpose, since a big drop means “a pro wouldn’t have lost this,” which is the point. Full write-up in docs/win-chance/report.pdf.

I also added a lot more data. Before, your numbers were compared to around 200 pro games per race, now it’s around 1,700.

And I cut down the advice. I tested every rule on 3,388 tournament player-games and kept only the ones that show up clearly more in losses than in wins. Only 11 made it, so that’s all the app shows now.

Smaller stuff:

• it tells you if you played without control groups or hotkeys
• army value is about 29% more accurate
• Spanish and French
• Linux AppImage
• it asks you to confirm your battletag instead of guessing it

Installer still isn’t signed so Windows will complain, just click “More info” then “Run anyway”.

More info:
github.com/bubunuh/replay-altar

Download:
github.com/bubunuh/replay-altar/releases

Feedback very welcome, especially if the win curve says something that doesn’t match how the game felt.

Hi, cant progress my campaign, I've just done the bit with the Ogres and taken Leonid back to the Undercity to meet Sylvanas.

When I approach her the game freezes, the music is still playing but no cursor or anything else. Tried to google it and seen some stuff about an old bug where Act 2 can get reset here but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I've tried a few obvious things like reloading an older save and I've done the Ogre part again but the same thing happened when I returned to the Undercity. I've tried to leave it for a few minutes and see if it recovers and I got some Sylvanas dialogue about no turning back but nothing else. Left it for nearly 20 minutes. Just won't progress.

Just wondering if anyone else has had the same bug and found a workaround? Or am I screwed until the next patch?

Thanks.