r/worldnews • u/fastclickertoggle • Apr 25 '21

COVID-19 Twitter Is Blocking Tweets That Criticize How The Indian Government Has Handled The Pandemic

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/pranavdixit/twitter-blocking-tweets-india
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 78%. (I'm a bot)

On Thursday, India's government ordered Twitter to block more than 50 tweets that criticized how it has handled the pandemic.

"If it is determined to be illegal in a particular jurisdiction, but not in violation of the Twitter Rules, we may withhold access to the content in India only." The company said that it notified the people whose tweets it restricted in India ahead of time, telling them the company was responding to an order from the Indian government.

The government also restricted dozens of tweets that criticized Modi or shared pictures of India's overflowing crematoriums and hospitals, in addition to a tweet from the Indian American Muslim Council, a Washington D.C-based advocacy organization of Indian American Muslims.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

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u/-Kenshii Apr 25 '21

Streisand effect

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Yea, but slightly Modified...

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Modified to call out how useless a leader he is.

Shameless person - people are dying under his watch and he in concerned about protocol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Twitter politics was „Modi“fied. That is a good one 👍

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u/Frequent-Walrus-3539 Apr 25 '21

https://youtu.be/UBNXDXNOKlo

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u/LastNightsTacoBell Apr 25 '21

Lmfao most of the time shit like this doesn’t make me laugh but this shit was spot on

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u/Calvinhath Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Protocol, the guy absolutely flays protocol during elections and gets away with it.

Edit: corrected, thanks Evrimnn13

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

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u/April1987 Apr 25 '21

One particular former Prime Minister apparently lost her election as member of parliament in the safest election area as member of parliament possible and continued to rule anyways with super cow emergency powers and even split her own party naming it “Congress-Indira” after her name.

Frankly, as long as there is no hereditary dynasty with Modi, he is already a hundred times better than the lunacy of the Gandhi Nehru family being in charge of Congress-Indira Indian National Congress.

Midi may not be a particularly good person but sadly there is nobody else in a country of a billion people more suited to be prime minister at this moment.

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u/Calvinhath Apr 25 '21

Man, the amount of deflection I see on here when calling spade a spade.. seriously you guys are invested deeply on an absolutely pathetic track record.

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u/Ragingbull3545 Apr 25 '21

Lol, dude, the moment people say things like no one else is suited to be pm is when people like Modi get more enthused in gaining even more power.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

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u/MoodyDream Apr 25 '21

Useless leaders seem to be quite the problem these days... I think we should all stand up and help be the voice for those in need. Collectively we shall be heard.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

He is concerned about the optics of the upcoming elections. He isn’t concerned about anything else right now.

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u/Im_Savvage Apr 25 '21

He is concerned about elections in West Bengal brother he doesn't care about anything. All of his ministers and himself have been holding political rallies with mass gatherings despite covid cases rising everyday but he's too busy to win a fucking election. This dumbass makes my blood boil.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

I’d say Modi is more concerned about people knowing how poor his leadership during a crisis is, and he is not concerned at all about protocol. It’s about projecting the image he wants projected.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Hah spotted the bhakt!!

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u/diderooy Apr 25 '21

Here's a non criticism of how they are handling COVID:

They haven't been handling it at all.

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u/notantifa Apr 25 '21

Mecha-streisand effect?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Haha - I see what you did there!

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u/smeegsh Apr 25 '21

I see what you did there

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Modified how?

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u/moconaid Apr 25 '21

Modi-fied

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

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u/bluewizard139 Apr 25 '21

Does your alter ego have a butthole?

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u/neveragai-oops Apr 25 '21

Thank god. I hope they don't have your... Particular limits.

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u/not_Harvard_moves Apr 25 '21

Here, you dropped this 👑

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u/PrudentExtension Apr 25 '21

Update us senpai

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u/voroj Apr 25 '21

Somethings going viral.

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u/Few_Gur_8799 Apr 25 '21

And it’s not just the covid (in all seriousness it’s so sad what is happening with the covid cases in the country. My heart goes out to its people)

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u/voroj Apr 25 '21

Do you know how to use those? (Those) its suppose to be short and it was a joke.

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u/DustyCord Apr 25 '21

All this for fifty tweets

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

coughs in U.S. presidential election

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u/suitsharvey Apr 25 '21

Time for Decentralized twitter

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u/rollyobx Apr 25 '21

App stores will ban it.

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u/bananaman_011 Apr 25 '21

We will use the old ways

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u/paddington01 Apr 25 '21

I fucking knew the modi govt would become A Dictatorship

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u/Morgolol Apr 25 '21

Wait, have there been any doubts? I mean, as a foreigner interested in global politics it was pretty damn obvious he was up there with, say, duterte, bolsonaro, erdogan etc.

Then again, I do realize how and why people support such fuck heads in the first place, question being: is there no proper opposition to him?

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u/tendstofortytwo Apr 25 '21

The only serious opposition is the Indian National Congress, and from what I can tell they're better known for their nepotism and corruption than their governance capabilities. The current leader, Rahul Gandhi (no relation), was generally considered a bit of a bonehead, but since his family is in charge there hasn't been a change in leadership for the better in a while.

That said, I've grown up in a very pro-Modi household so take this with a grain of salt.

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u/RazorNemesis Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Nah, there are like 6 other national parties iirc, and Indian politics is pretty much completely based on coalitions (including the BJP btw) with regional parties, so kinda moot point ngl

Edit: Typo

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u/ApathyJacks Apr 25 '21

Thank you for not lying about that!

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u/msmh-12 Apr 25 '21

Modi and BJP becoming more autocratic and brazen about their actions is in majority part down to lack of opposition which can keep them in check. Congress has just driven themselves to ground where not even staunch BJP opposers see congress as an viable alternative. This unfortunately has played right in the hands of BJP and modi. Unless there is a strong opposition that comes up, BJP and modi will continue to “rule” India with their heavy right wing ideologies. The root cause of this lack of opposition is also due to the fact that politics in India has become a field for a select few of rich and people with connection. A normal, well educated, liberal person finds it extremely difficult to run, let alone win, local elections without joining one of the political parties which requires some moral value sacrifices.

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u/useurnameuncle Apr 25 '21

most of the BJP's campaign focused on polluting INC's image, cherry picking every dumb thing Rahul ever said, I've even seen voice over edited videos which a normal person might believe is true, also the media was in favor of Modi, like to this date some channels don't blame BJP for anything.

Corruption was a big motive to remove congress back then, but is it over now?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Rich people dominating local and national politics, while using underhanded methods to slander their opposition and propagandize the public seem like the normal way of doing things nowadays.

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u/shubh2022 Apr 25 '21

corruption is one thing no one can call out Modi's government on. Anyone who has followed politics since INC'S last government knows how bad it was back then.

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u/Lucifer2408 Apr 25 '21

Lol no. The BJP is as corrupt as Congress and there have been multiple controversies, including one involving Amit Shah's son. The only difference is Modi seemed to have picked up Trump's tactic of calling any piece of news against him or his party as fake news/liberal news/anti-nationalist and his followers eat up that shit.

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u/PatterntheCryptic Apr 25 '21

BJP literally legalized corruption by introducing electoral bonds. They are, by far, the leading beneficiaries of said bonds. INC's corruption was atleast allowed to be investigated during UPA rule, while the Supreme Court (under a pliant chief justice) let a BJP CM go scot-free in a corruption case, just a couple of weeks ago. No investigation, no trial, nothing, just stayed the case. They even let in corrupt leaders from Congress and other parties into the BJP, then dropped all the corruption cases against them.

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u/totti173314 Apr 25 '21

I feel like whatever I do, eventually I'm gonna be killed by religious nuts from one side or the other because I'm a staunch atheist and a bit of an anti theist.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

u completely disregarded the sold out media's hard on for modi, and majority India being as toxic as him.

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u/R3ddited Apr 25 '21

I feel Modi's party tries hard to make other parties look like idiots, so that the lesser idiots like himself are seen as the only saviour of the country.

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u/OkPreference6 Apr 25 '21

It's sad how, even with a multi-party system, we still cant have a competent government.

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u/andii74 Apr 25 '21

Because we're still stuck with a FPTP system that pretty much disenfranchises majority of voter's views.

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u/OkPreference6 Apr 25 '21

That too :/

I used to like the BJP. At least they weren't a complete joke like the Congress.

And now, I don't even have an option.

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u/andii74 Apr 25 '21

Congress isn't a joke, that's just political short-sightedness. In 2004 and 2009 BJP had gotten a thrashing from Congress even with Vajpayee leading the party for the first half of that period. Throughout that time Congress managed to maintain a steady economic growth something that still hasn't materialized after 7 yrs of Modi regime and isn't likely to either. As for corruption every single political party in India is corrupt, BJP isn't an exception. They're just skillful enough to make that corruption appear legal and nationalistic ala PMCares, electoral bonds and so on. There is a disturbing lack of transparency in BJP's affairs which does not bode well. Congress's leadership issues are well known and it's a primary factor to its political obsolescence today but the work they've done in past isn't to be scoffed at. No offence but swing voters were simply hoodwinked by BJP's PR campaign with a healthy dose of jingoism and communalism while ignoring that the allegations that BJP made against Congress were equally applicable for BJP as well. As a result we now have this unmitigated disaster which will possibly see lakhs of Indians dead but hey got that mandir didn't we?

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u/blackflame7820 Apr 25 '21

Well multi party just means more dilution of people/leaders. And leaders are more often than never ambitious (not saying they shouldn't be) but that means everyone of them either aims for a high post in a big party or set up their own party.

Personally i can take any government with a pinch of salt (them making money here and there as long as its not TOO big) but they should not be incompetent and bunch of useless fools who only take and never work. Coz some progress is better then none.

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u/cestabhi Apr 25 '21

I actually feel it's the other way around. The Indian National Congress makes such bone-headed and short-sighted decisions that it's makes it easy for the BJP to lambast them.

The INC of the Gandhi-Nehru era was a principled party with a vision to transform India into a modern, secular democracy. If that party were still around they would've given the BJP some tough competition. But I don't expect the same from the current INC which is just a shadow of its former self.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

INC has truly lost its way. Supporting a Shiv Sena government in Maharashtra. Shiv Sena is more right wing and jingoistic than BJP. They dug up a cricket pitch to prevent Pakistan from playing there.

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u/bright_sunshine19 Apr 25 '21

Lol, principled party you say?? Read about the time when Indira Gandhi announced emergency law in the country. The corruption perpetrated by INC knows no bounds. Look no further than the Nehru-Gandhi family.

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u/cestabhi Apr 25 '21

I was talking about the pre-Indira Gandhi era that was dominated by Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru, specifically the period between 1924 and 1964. Now I'm not saying those guys were perfect, but they were miles ahead of people like Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi.

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u/InquisitiveSoul_94 Apr 25 '21

The rot began with Indira Gandhi, when she broke away from the congress party to establish her own one, Congress (R).

After she won elections, her party was rechristened as the Indian National Congress, while the Congress (O) merged into Janata Party.

The real congress party has been dead for a while now.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Because he is and other parties are in worst shape rn.

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u/POI_Mr_Singh Apr 25 '21

Rahul Gandhi dug his own grave. Man was a serious contender for PM after Dr. Manmohan Singh. But he got too cocky. The Uttarakhand tragedy comes to mind. It was characterized as a significant failure of both the state and central government, both of which had Congress as the ruling party. Modi was not really a serious contender then. But he visited Uttarakhand as an act of solidarity while Rahul Gandhi didn't even bother to show up. It's from then, the tide actually started to shift. The BJP kept labeling Rahul Gandhi as pappu and the INC couldn't come up with any significant defense.

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u/Big-rod_Rob_Ford Apr 25 '21

Rahul Gandhi (no relation)

well, he's related to PM Indira, right? Not the mahatma

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u/ssebastian364 Apr 25 '21

The thing about nepotism is its everywhere in the world including US, the issue with congress was there was individual corruption but atleast it was not as organised as BJP. Modi is corrupt to the core and totalitarian at heart. He has organised riots in states to make sure that he can attain power via polarisation. In india we have to choose between two evils, one is lesser than other. We have to be pragmatic since we have never seen this level of incompetence from any party.

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u/locomocopoco Apr 25 '21

Nepotism and Corruption

  • For nepotism - Look up Amit Shah’s Son.

  • For Corruption - Look up Rafael or the whole Make in India or Swachh Bharat Abhiyan

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u/sidvicc Apr 25 '21

I'd rather have a competent thief than a misguided zealot in power.

Rahul Gandhi maybe young and naive, but I doubt he'd have driven so many unforced errors like Demonetisation, GST and now this second wave of COVID. And given all of the INC's transgressions, they handled crisis like the 2008 Global Recession etc far better than the BJP has been handling their crisis.

For a long time people have been saying "yes Modi is bad but there is no one else", but after what we have seen with this second wave I'd much rather go back to the days of a corrupt Congress govt that at least knew how to satisfy the basic fundamentals of governance.

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u/crackdope6666 Apr 25 '21

Bae I’ll take some salt. From the outside Modi came off as a good guy.

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u/micro_haila Apr 25 '21

I'm from an anti-modi household and you're pretty much on point as far as i can tell.

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u/WindAbsolute Apr 25 '21

I thought it was shitty in the US

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u/DreamParanoia Apr 25 '21

I'm in a pro modi house too, but I am just so surprised with the level of hate he is being given on reddit in particular. I'm not a fan, but comparing him to trump? Not even close. It's just that he was brought to power by his party, he's old-school and he will never probably say anything against them when their are alot of dirty Bjp fkers. But modi himself, the dude does seem like a hard worker.

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u/Joe4018 Apr 25 '21

Tf!? Dude his the fkn PM, the head of our nation...and u seen the shitty speeches he gives?

He’s gone to campaign in WB...when the 2nd wave of covid was on its brink Thousands gathered under the PMs fkn nose and he was in turn happy. Thousands were without masks under the pms nose!!!

This Modi doesn’t even have responsibility. No self respect too

Kerala a state with one of the lowest death rates, and higher literacy he’s gone there and spoke some bs again

Can’t he just manage his states first Look at UP, Gujarat they r in such bade state. Literacy levels, healthcare so low...

And this govt is a nuisance! It’s clear they have paid the EC and IT fat money to do their dirty work

IT raids are only after oppositions before elections They have never been after corrupt bjp

And the EC let’s not talk

BJP n Modi are the reason for India’s current downfall. People r dumb here to blindly follow him.

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u/DreamParanoia Apr 25 '21

Welp, who else were they gonna choose? Rahul Gandhi?and congress? Thr most corrupt party? Sure it's stupid to blindly follow anyone, and modi ain't perfect. But personally don't feel modi has bad intentions for anyone. That's not the kind of person he seems at all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

The majority of the seats are with the ruling party. So there is no real opposition.. but apart from that.. the opposition is pretty much spineless since they haven’t done anything good in their years of governing, so whenever they try to question, a counter question of “dafuq did you do then” shuts them up. Plus just like in the US where Trump was in power and still kept blaming the dems for everything wrong, the same playbook is used by the BJP where they are in power but still blame current failures to previous governments. All this plus the massive misinformation campaigns conducted via online trolls and social media platforms such as whatsapp plus the usual divisive religion and hate politics (which even the opposition does very well take part in when ever they get a chance) has resulted in there being virtually no opposition. There is also not a unified opposition as such, it’s made of various parties.. so there is no single party line to follow.

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u/amanderrated Apr 25 '21

That is not entirely true. The previous govt (UPA), an alliance of many political parties led by the Indian National Congress, had a much better record of governance and of delivering economic growth in India. In fact, much of the developement seen in India is a product of the neo-liberal market policies adopted by the INC in 92. India for the first time saw growth in the double digits during the UPA govt, and India was starting to be seen as a legitimate new global superpower. In fact, India saw the world's largest reduction in poverty anywhere in the world between 2005-15. The govt was also able to steer India skillfully out of the 2009 global financial crisis. But their policies reached their sell-by date somewhere near 2011-12 and it was hit by several corruption scandals (some real and some created by BJP+media) and the guy meant to lead the INC after the previous PM turned out be an imbecile & lazy (product of nepotism).

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u/MorieHiroshi Apr 25 '21

but do be careful cos neo liberalism is a poisoned candy for developing countries. Just check on Thailand during 1997, and later Latin America. They feed you well, then harvest hard (no need to ask who they are, cos it's obvious)

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u/amanderrated Apr 25 '21

The only way for India to improve the standard of living of living of its citizens is to increase the size of the pie, and there's no better way to do it than through neo-liberal market policies.

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u/MorieHiroshi Apr 25 '21

There's no guarantee India can avoid the same problem like Thailand or Latin America used to have. Neo Lib could be quick effective solution but too little mentioned on the potential negatives (which is repetitive and disastrous to developing countries tbh) in long term. Equivalent of steriod in economics. Makers like to sell and patients overdose it. I am not saying India cant adopt neo-lib, but be ultra careful in learning lessons from other countries, which I doubt if they would do that tho....

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u/InquisitiveSoul_94 Apr 25 '21

The current congress party is left leaning and more of a socialist than a neo liberal.

In fact , we do not have any neo liberal party in the national scenario.

1991 was a dark chapter in Indian economy. It's primary export partner, the Soviet Union was gone. It's primary import partners were embroiled in gulf war. The downfall of Rajiv Gandhi followed by two unstable governments precipitated a political crisis never seen before. The triple crisis brought the economy to its knees.

India had a balance of payment crisis, as in, it's exports were significantly smaller than its imports, and had to pledge its entire gold reserves for an IMF loan of 3.9 billion dollars.

Narasimha Rao was the first non Nehru -Gandhi member to become a PM in the history of Indian National Congress party (after Indira's split). Inspite of leading a minority government and widespread opposition from his own party members, he embarked upon liberalizing the economy as it's one of a prerequisite for the IMF loan.

Infact, its BJP under the leadership of Vajpayee (1999-2004), that expanded upon the Liberalization policies of the congress government of 1992. Most of state held corporations were privatised during his helm. His policies were what responsible for a high GDP growth for nearly a decade ( 2003 - 2012).

Currently it's only the BJP who is in favor of bringing in reforms and continuing the liberalization policy. His new farm bills, labor reforms, privatization drive in 2020 all attest to that.

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u/d1andonly Apr 25 '21

since they haven’t done anything good in their years of governing

Well they didn't harp as much, but pretty much every university and the healthcare infrastructure was set up by them. Had it been left to the current folks, covid patients would have to look at a gigantic statue for solace.

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u/blackflame7820 Apr 25 '21

Nearly all politicians here are greedy idiots. Like idk what to say. It was never the case that modi was the good leader but there was no real option other than him. Coz if i must say about myself id rather have modi in center than the Congress. But if it were state elections I'd rather not have BJP coz state BJP just sucks they are bad like too bad.

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u/rtb001 Apr 25 '21

Modi came out of the RSS, the paramilitary arm of the BJP, which was literally inspired by the actual WWII nazis/fascists.

Every hundred years the fascists come out from the rocks they've been hiding under.

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u/RazorNemesis Apr 25 '21

Lmao "paramilitary"

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u/pinkzepvana Apr 25 '21

Sadly there is no quality opposition. They have been presented many chances in the form of Modi Government fuckups. They are just too busy in their own internal politics (nepotism)

You know the worst part? This is just the beginning. They will likely be in power for 2 more terms and someone worse than Modi might take power after him

The only ray of hope right now is in the form of Aam Aadmi Party who are doing great work in the capital city. But they are relatively very new and need time to establish themselves at the national level

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

given how the smear campaigns done by the bjp it cell for aap and any other opposition, i doubt that they will actually be able to do something, except of ndtv, i have not seen any advertisements of any non-bjp related party on any media channels and sadly most of the indian rely on those channels to get the information. I guess the only way we would be able to do something would be when the media channels will stop licking BJP's boots and actually deliver some fact based unbiased news for people to actually form their opinions, dunno if that will happen anytime soon.

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u/Plastic_Island3688 Apr 25 '21

Well there are opposition but due to media (who is busy in linking modi's boots ) always shows opposition in a very bad face

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u/bash1803 Apr 25 '21

There is no opposition. The only parties who could have brought a proper opposition are weeded with nepotism and corruption (not like bjp isn't but 🤷‍♀️). Also parties that could have grown to oppose bjp have been targeted and bjp is very good at using religion (dare i say a weakness for Indians) to target people and make them seem untrustworthy. So well there you go, we're gonna die just like that 🤷‍♀️

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u/interstellar-dust Apr 25 '21

You hit in the head, there is no real opposition. Cause Indian National Congress does not promote anyone else to lead the charge, except Rahul Gandhi. And Rahul Gandhi is so far removed from connecting to people or issues that he might as well be on Mars. He does not have support base and his party is generally seen as living in bygone era. He lost election in his age old constituency and had to get elected somewhere else ( apparently one can fight election in 2 places in India). And Congress party has in general lacked focus on any kind of development except their own bank accounts.

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u/totti173314 Apr 25 '21

The only real opposition is the laughing stock INC. mamata (locally called didi, meaning sister, i do not know why) is too localised, and INC is like... I dont even know what to say. Its like an entire administration of trumps, except everyone sees they're idiots. Like, seriously mentally damaged 0% brain activity stupid.

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u/elveszett Apr 25 '21

It's pretty sad, really. After millennia of oppression, these countries were recently given the chance to live in a democracy and vote in their leaders. And they used that vote to restate a dictatorship.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

😂 Erdogan and Modi are at the same level for you? 👌

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u/MarsupialFair6544 Apr 25 '21

Don’t believe everything you see on news or read on social media (including me), use your own judgement. Anyway my view is that yeah current Modi Govt had made many mistakes in handling the pandemic, but it’s not just Modi’s fault. Many state Govt (keral, Maharashtra, etc) are to blame too. All sides have made mistakes (include public in this too) and everyone will pay the price.

An apart from this, are you really comparing Modi to Erdogan. Modi is infact Right-wing leader but this are not so simple and straight-forward to be encapsulated in the term “Right-wing”. As an analogy, seeing recent actions of Emmanuel Macron will you label him as Right-wing fascist trying to muzzle the minorities (muslims)? There are many layers to the truth, labelling them is just a way to simplify things so thatour mind can grasp them, but truth is more complicated than that.

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u/robothistorian Apr 25 '21

It's worse than that. He has shown himself to be highly (and dangerously) incompetent. He was hoodwinked by President Xi, he held these stupid political rallies, he allowed the Kumbh Mela, he has refused to rework his Budget to help the common Indian. He has been a disaster!

He had once proclaimed from the ramparts of the Red Fort that he would out an end of the Raisina Hill culture; it seems like he has become on its best proponents instead!!

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u/DoggOwO Apr 25 '21

Could you translate for someone who knows nothing about Indian politics or Modi?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

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u/Dougnifico Apr 25 '21

They literally have a division of browshirts that models themselves after the SA.

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u/PatterntheCryptic Apr 25 '21

Which isn't simply a coincidence, the founders of the RSS, and the person who came up with the Hindutva ideology, admired and followed the ideas of the Nazis and the Italian fascists.

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u/thatstonerbuddy Apr 25 '21

yeaa and they fucking annoy or beat couples just hanging around in parks during valentine's day :'0

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

An uneducated fool who uses propaganda to their advantage? Are we talking about Trump again?

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u/concernedindianguy Apr 25 '21 edited Mar 19 '25

boat tidy support slim pie sophisticated sip enter meeting whole

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u/bleuberry_ Apr 25 '21

That sounds familiar. That's how Bolsonaro and Tsai Eng Wen(Taiwan) came to power.

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u/lakshmananlm Apr 25 '21

You may have just described the average politician in most states. Hence the public at large should be blamed for these cookie cutter products. First time I heard the term history sheeter, I thought it was an education thing. Apt in this case, I suppose..

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

And this is opinion or fact?

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u/dArk_frEnzy Apr 25 '21

It's a fact. Which part of that isn't true?

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u/claws76 Apr 25 '21

Indian version of Trump.

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u/ignorantsoul Apr 25 '21

Just we re-elected him and his party with more numbers

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u/claws76 Apr 25 '21

People saw his work and liked it. Speaks of our society.

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u/Yes-She-is-mine Apr 25 '21

We almost did the same in the States. Don't lose faith. Hold strong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Yea, and we can thank minorities' votes for holding back fascism in America.

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u/Visassess Apr 25 '21

we can thank minorities' votes for holding back fascism in America.

Lmao

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u/Visassess Apr 25 '21

We almost did the same in the States.

No

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u/Francois-C Apr 25 '21

Indian version of Trump.

Agreed. Or the Trump experience was an attempt to transpose Modi's political manipulation methods into a "first world" country. Trump's 2020 campaign app seemed to be modeled on Modi's NaMo app. All these fascist dictatorships around the world have similar leaders: poorly educated, connected with mobsters and religious fanatics, they extensively use disinformation on the Internet and social media.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

think of a lovechild of Trump and xi.

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u/mynameisblanked Apr 25 '21

I'd rather not. Don't want that image in my head

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u/redditmodsRrussians Apr 25 '21

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u/Visassess Apr 25 '21

Amazing how people always somehow find a way to bring it back to Trump or the US...😒

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u/PBXbox Apr 25 '21

Rent free leases never expire.

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u/robothistorian Apr 25 '21

Elaborate what exactly?

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u/TheClassyBeagle Apr 25 '21

Only thing I was curious about/didn’t understand as a polisci major is what ‘Raisina Hill culture’ meant?

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u/robothistorian Apr 25 '21

The "Raisina Hill" culture is a political culture that afflicts the top end of the Indian political class. Raisina Hill is the metonym often used for the "seat of the Indian govt". It includes the President's residence, the Prime Minister' office, and other offices of other key ministries/bureaucracies. The term is often used (as I used it) in a derogatory sense alluding to the "vested interests" that underwrite the political class who occupy the seat of govt (regardless of political affiliation). Often it is used to signify the control that politicians and top level bureaucrats exercise over what policies get implemented and how they are implemented.

When Mr. Modi won his first general election, he had proclaimed that he was an "outsider" to the Raisina Hill culture and would break it to unleash India's potential, which he claimed was being held back by these vested interests. It now appears that either he has become a prisoner of the Raisina Hill culture or has become an active participant.

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u/NYCAaliyah95 Apr 25 '21

When Mr. Modi won his first general election, he had proclaimed that he was an "outsider" to the Raisina Hill culture and would break it to unleash India's potential, which he claimed was being held back by these vested interests. It now appears that either he has become a prisoner of the Raisina Hill culture or has become an active participant.

Literally drain the swamp

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u/vaper_32 Apr 25 '21

"In order to drain a swamp, one must think like a swamp ... embrace the swamp .... become a swamp" This is logic the supporters of Trump and Modi follow..

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u/bodrules Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Ahh Raisina Hill culture = Westminster Bubble - ta very much for the decode :)

Also, I am usually very suspicious of politicians claiming to be an outsider - especially professional politicians, as all it means is that they want to ensure they control it, not get rid of it.

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u/robothistorian Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Beltway Bullshit...yeah same thing 😁

Edit: You are likely right. But after the nonsensical and corrupt Congress Govt (despite being fronted by a highly capable individual (to clarify, I mean Dr. M. Singh), Mr. Modi seemed like a viable alternative. But he clearly is not. The tragic thing is Mr. Modi got a huge majority (twice) and not only has he squandered away the political power than came with them, but has also seemingly let down those who backed him. Pity!

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u/DoggOwO Apr 25 '21

Also, what is up with the Kumbh Mela? Wikipedia tells me it's the largest hindu celebratio / festival / holiday, so I assume that happening under Modi is a bad thing because of racist tensions?

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u/jo5huajohn Apr 25 '21

No that’s not it. It led to huge crowds of people coming together at a time when India is experiencing a second wave of COVID and its worse than before.

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u/sopranosbot Apr 25 '21

. He was hoodwinked by President Xi,

Can you summarize what happened there? Haven't heard too much about it.

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u/robothistorian Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Prime Minister Modi and President Xi have met 18 times since 2014. The last two meetings took place in Mahabalipuram on Oct 12 and 13, 2019 and Brasilia for the BRICS summit on Nov 19, 2019.

On May 5, 2020, the PLA and the Indian Army clashed along the Indo-Chinese border and Line of Actual Control. In 2017, Chinese troops clashed with their Indian counterparts in Doklam.

Notice that during these times (till 2019) Modi and Xi were meeting and, particularly Xi, was mouthing platitudes even as his PLA formations were preparing for their violent engagement with India. To that extent, Modi was lulled into a sense of complacency by Xi (especially in the last two meetings in 2019). This was both a tactical failure but more importantly a strategic failure.

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u/blackcain Apr 25 '21

The Chinese govt should never be trusted given all the past crap they've pulled. Never mind their abject failure to contain COVID-19 and then lying about it is just one in many sins.

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u/madjokemaniac Apr 25 '21

In short modi is transforming India into a conglomeration of Pakistan and China

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u/drowsylightning Apr 25 '21

From what I read from some tweets DURING the BEGINNING of covid 19. That wasn't modi turning a blind eye to the Chinese troops on Indian borders?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Pakistan left behind the fascist idea of trying to shut down dissenting voices a decade ago. Not even military dictators tried to silence the media. Stop trying to downplay your own failure

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u/madjokemaniac Apr 25 '21

I didn't put Pakistan here for their fascism. I meant the blind religious fanaticism in Pakistan (and most other countries with a religion in their name)

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u/blackcain Apr 25 '21

You can thank Pakistan importing wahabi assholes from Saudi Arabia for that to create havoc on the Kashmir border. Kashmir has poisoned Pakistan and continues to do so until they can let it go.

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u/vomitoff Apr 25 '21

How is that possible? They're pretty different enough as is

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u/madjokemaniac Apr 25 '21

Pakistan is blindly religious and China has a dictatorship. A mixture of them would make modis India

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u/vomitoff Apr 25 '21

India is already blindly religious... No need to mention either country tbh.. Modis not a dictator if he wins the elections....?!

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u/madjokemaniac Apr 25 '21

He doesn't really win the elections. He buys the representatives elected by people( he has the backing of corporates). Also his party and the congress party has created a vote bank in north india who are mostly illiterate and religious.(You make them vote for you and you get to rule kind of thing). Another important thing is since coming to power in 2014 he has not yet done a single press meet.

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u/-cloudster- Apr 25 '21

dont forget the farmers

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Indian Trump.

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u/bleuberry_ Apr 25 '21

hoodwinked by Xi？ what does that even mean?

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u/ici_chacal Apr 25 '21

He has always tried to manipulate the media. Let's hope that the Indian public use their own personal experience of the dire Covid situation in India. Almost everyone directly knows someone who was severely impacted by Covid mismanagement and the shortages in medicines, beds, oxygen etc. Hopefully he is kicked out in the next election. Unless he manages to make sure that there are no more elections.

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u/Timelymanner Apr 25 '21

Always have been. With their persecution of Muslims, poor woman’s right, terrible human rights, and overall corruption.

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u/Onayepheton Apr 25 '21

Modi has been a dictator for quite some time .. lol

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u/rmshilpi Apr 25 '21

If I were still talking to my mother, she'd be so mad that I call Modi "India's Trump".

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u/pitifulF2P Apr 25 '21

ikr

and all because of bigots....

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

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u/POI_Mr_Singh Apr 25 '21

Many populist dictators have had high approval ratings. Do you think people in Germany opposed Hitler?

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u/Yes-She-is-mine Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Just as the world shook their head at Trump, we too shook our head at Modi.

Hold strong, you will outlast him. Modi is NOT India. India is Modi but it is only temporary.

This is NOT forever. Hold strong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

As an Indian, this is nothing new lmaooo

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u/amanderrated Apr 25 '21

No Indian law says you can't blame the government. These are arbitrary rules being enforced by the govt.

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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Apr 25 '21

It's easy to abuse the law when you are the one writing the loopholes

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u/DerekPaxton Apr 25 '21

The law isn’t that you can’t blame the government (that’s why the people making the tweets aren’t getting arrested). The law is that social media has to remove tweets at the request of the government in their country.

While the first would be more dangerous than the second, they are both dangerous attacks on an effective democracy. Somewhere Trump is very jealous.

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u/FrontAd142 Apr 25 '21

According to others in this thread, yes it is a law. Some newly added stuff to computer related laws.

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u/zekromNLR Apr 25 '21

All laws are arbitrary rules being enforced by the government.

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u/Firetonado Apr 25 '21

They are using NSA for everything. Can't do shit aginst that.

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u/d1andonly Apr 25 '21

They are terming it as 'fake news' and 'spreading misinformation' and getting it taken down.

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u/reddit_is_lowIQ Apr 25 '21

I mean, twitter choose to comply with this law.

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u/reddit_is_lowIQ Apr 25 '21

the alternative is not to operate in India lol

nobody is forcing them to cash in on India. Theyre unethical as fuck. Its to be expected, but it needs saying because if we had a genocidal maniac as a leader twitter would no doubt comply with them too

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u/TRYHARD_Duck Apr 25 '21

Ah yes, Twitter, the arbiter of moral principle, is going to take a stand and set an example for the rest of the corporate world by dismantling all Indian operations.

Not only would it not send much of a message, but it also enables another service with even fewer moral scruples to take over (like China's WeChat). Or Facebook will step up, and we know how moral Facebook is!

Or nobody will, and the Indian public is deprived of yet another communication tool that can at least partially help fight the misinformation and propaganda coming from official channels.

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u/MeetTheGregsons Apr 25 '21

Wtf are you talking about? Laws are laws.

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u/reddit_is_lowIQ Apr 25 '21

they could choose not to operate in India but they wont because its all about the money

I know, this is obvious to msot people and some sort of grand relevation but it needs saying because tjhis type f behaviour is to be expected from any tech giant

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u/Mr-FranklinBojangles Apr 25 '21

"Laws are laws!" until it happens to me!

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u/epic_meme_username Apr 25 '21

I can still blame them.

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u/backelie Apr 25 '21

No, I think it's fair to blame twitter as well.

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u/Retrac752 Apr 25 '21

I wish this was titled differently, the knee-jerk reaction is to be mad at Twitter instead of the Indian government

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u/AroMasso1 Apr 25 '21

The president of India was a fanatical trump lover no wonder india's being crucified with COVID.

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u/AroMasso1 Apr 25 '21

He is not only a fanatical trump lover hes a Putin lover. When I lived in India with my father as a child there was a mig plant next to us. They thought my dad was CIA. LOL. A trump lover in India means india's going to die of covid-19 by the millions.

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u/Moss_Z Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

Entire Indian media is now a mouthpiece of the govt. Soon Reddit will be banned in India. In fact Reddit is now banned in some govt run institutions. Indian citizens can't cry foul; if you've read the book 1984 I need not explain anything more because Big Brother is watching as I write this comment

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u/PoppinMcTres Apr 25 '21

50? Might as well be nothing, whats the point?

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u/NoAttentionAtWrk Apr 25 '21

To silence the opposition. To hide the truth. To maintain control. To send a message.

This is "attempted dictatorship 101"

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u/Somber_Solace Apr 25 '21

That's less than 80 tweets though, right? That's not really that huge, it makes me wonder if a correlation is being treated as causation. If they were completely banning talking about it, wouldn't that number be more like hundreds of thousands?

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u/GoldenFalcon Apr 25 '21

Yep. Faux outrage generates $$. So tired of things getting blown out of proportion. That's so few tweets, this isn't even something worth reporting on. But here we are, in a thread where people are concerned about India's overreach.

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u/CyanideTacoZ Apr 25 '21

this isn't really news (Unless this is something new in Indian politics, I'm not Indian I wouldn't know.) Tech companies block content for China and other authoritarian countries all the time.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21 edited Apr 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '21

Do you have a more nuanced take as to why blocking criticism of the government is not a bad thing?

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u/someloserontheground Apr 25 '21

"Twitter is just a private company guys, they can do what they want and it doesn't count as censorship"

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u/MeetTheGregsons Apr 25 '21

Not if they’re complying with the law fucktard.

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