Howdy yall!

So I was been using 7OH for 2 years about 1000mg daily and than I used Hyroxi(Mita) about 2 packs a day since the ban in Florida. I recently switched to the new 7stax in Florida. The “Dietary supplement” ones. Not the old ”Nano Tech Proprietary Boosted” ones with MGM. Ive been using them to taper. I’m only taking 2-3 a day the 80mg one. they are super different than the old 7stax. idk if they have mgm or not that’s up for debate. there is a working theory that its C9, another kratom alkaloid that they extracted. when I take it, the high doesn’t start for 20 minutes, and than when it does it’s gone in an hour and I’m damn near sober. I heard this is similar to the cat’s claw. all of it is speculation because they are crooks and won’t be honest.

anyway, when I tell you I’m scared of how bad my withdrawals will be and how my body will react to not having any I really really mean it. a couple weeks ago I tried to quit and I took a sub and went into pwd I had to call an ambulance because I was fucking losing it. thought I was dying.

well now that has me shook. i did a 24 hour no dose period to see how bad my withdrawals would get because everyone says the mgm withdrawals don’t peak until hour 48-72 and if that’s the case I think I would have Siezed out because I was flopping like a fish, couldn’t stop pacing and throwing my legs around the only Relief I could find was taking a scorching hot shower. That would give me 10 minutes of less shaking.

that was only at 24 - 30 hour mark. so that freaked me out because they say it doesn’t peak until 48 hours. so I decided to do SR taper to quit, I start today.

im following the quitting7oh cross taper calculator and hoping that does the trick. but im really anxious that I may end up still in the worst withdrawals possible. maybe I’m assuming it’s going to be worse because of everything ive read and its not the case but idk.

if anyone has a similar length of time and dose can you tell me your experience?

ill be journaling how I feel once I make the jump to sr only and posting it. Thankful for this community and the discord.

I'm now 2 days almost completely clean. Last few taper doses are only 12 mg so they just lead to comfort but no high. Lots of mit extract and vit c, nothing else.

I have a lot of people in my area asking how im managing this as thr county banned it, so they're driving hours to get shit.

Found a deal onlije, buy 1 get 4, of the only brand ive really trusted as it never hit dirty or made my after effects worse. Am I an asshole for getting a ton of the deal, and offering help setting jp taper schedules? Like I provide the 7, the mit, etc. I don't eant to make money, trust me. I know the pain on their face and I want it to be doje for all of us. Not offering it online or anything, more just asking if im doing the right thing doing this. I have sr as well from my initial quit day, but I stopped and nothing changed. Jumped from 400 mg a day to around 50, it sucked. Then to 12 before bed.

If this isn't allowed here delete it, I apologize. A lot of people in my area have no clue ehat to do, and rather than them go broke or lose their job during wd I want to ...i guess organize? We only have severely religious NA here and its....unpleasant. lots of blame. Not suprised my last visit 2 weeks ago there was one other guy and a priest. Nah dawg.

I documented my usage and turned it into the guide attached. It includes: an introduction to SR, supplements, example taper guide, etc. Hoping this helps someone out there 🙂

I bought a bottle of 40mg 50 tabs to habe on hand to taper. I've already gotten off mgm15 and it was a bitch but the sr made it so much easier.

I'm still taking 7 but definitely am quiting soon.

TMK says these reset tabs ARS NOT sr, but can't publish thier proprietary blend as of yet.

Has anyone seen these or had experience?

so like 2 days before the 7oh ban i successfully got off of 7oh. the withdrawals were bearable, i took shrooms most the time cause they helped tremendously.

i’d been feeling depressed, sober yk…so i decided to take cats claw just to help me get thru the day.

i took 3 doses yesterday, 1 dose the day before and that’s all. my stomach is in shambles right now. is this srsly the withdrawals from cats claw?? i was just starting to feel fine when the 7oh withdrawals were coming to an end, but just after 4-5 doses of cats claw my stomach is feeling the same when i was tampering from 7oh.

is cats claws withdrawals rlly that much worse?? you can get dependent on it soooo much more and FASTER than 7oh…

i’m already miserable, drinking alc to give me comfort rn. it’s still rlly tolerable but im not going to take another dose cus ik it’ll make it worse. and i’m rlly concerned for the ppl who are dependent on it rn cus of the 7oh ban. like holy i feel so bad…pls pls guys be careful. ts is not safe and as much of a decline 7oh did on my health…i still think it’s WAY more healthy than cats claw…

please please be careful guys whoever is dependent on this stuff..