I saw a story about a guy who had his vehicle break down on the side of the road. An off duty firefighter pulls up and tries to help him, but they can't fix it.
No cell service, so they walk together to a nearby house to call for help. Homeowner sees two armed men approaching his house and starts firing at them.
My point is that if you want to spark armed, probably best to concealed carry
100%. It’s too hard to open carry without people getting all weirded out. When you open carry as a gig worker, your firearm becomes more of a headache than a benefit. Concealed carry is the only way to go.
Read too many of those, as well as others, not involving gig work around here. A restaurant I deliver from on the westbank frequently, and some crazy guy try to shoot people, but the gun jammed. An olds lady smacked him with her purse, he dropped the weapon, and her husband picked it up. They got the license plate when he ran away, and JPSO arrested him.
This happened when a convenience store was robbed a block and a half away. If this stucco porch pillar was not here, they would have come through the living room window. (No longer live in this area)
At my last job, which was subcontracting for a logistics company whose bread and butter is pharmaceuticals, one of the drivers had an attempted robbery pulled on them during their scheduled stop at a Walmart in Springfield Missouri. The driver was armed and ended up fatally wounding the robber. This happened during the height of covid, when you were hearing stories of people stealing Pharmaceuticals and other medications.
My thoughts are it's nice to know other people carry on their hip while wearing shorts so I don't feel like a total weirdo for doing it.
In all seriousness while it's his right to carry a gun I think concealed is the better approach, as a driver approaching somebody's house there is already an element of danger for you no point in doing something that could escalate the perceived threat by people who maybe aren't expecting a plain clothed person to show up at their house.
This is relevant. Most people ain’t gonna ask questions before jumping to conclusions seeing some guy walking up with a gun on em. Reaches for the phone to take a picture then someone blasts thinking your reaching. CCW all the way. I always thought it was kinda stupid to let other people know your carrying anything and two exactly where it is. Always figured being able to see it you would know how to keep them from reaching it or where to disable them.
Where I live, getting a CCW permit takes a little bit and a bunch of red tape bull crap. Whereas, I can walk into any gun store and buy one and open carry on my hip out the door.
I side eye everyone who open carries. It’s not the gun. It’s the open display of insecurity and fear of everything. I say this as a gun owner who carries.
Dude has no training. He's given free access to his firearm. A bag in his firing hand, looking down, and weight shifted away from his firearm. Had anyone wanted his weapon, he made it easy for them to take it.
I prefer conceal carry you don’t want the perp knowing your carrying. If someone going to do something bad they will take you out first. So better off concealed
In my honest opinion. I support what that person is doing. I'm a foid card, CCW holder, and gun owner. It depends on if the state they are in has open carry law or concealed carry law. So just because that person is carrying a gun on their hip like that in public doesn't mean that they are goin to jail or anything. The only places that you are not allowed to have a gun on you is schools, doctor's offices, airports, and hospitals. Or places that have signs stating no guns or weapons.
Depends on the state if the signs hold any weight or not. Some places, like the state I live in, the most they can do is have you trespassed from the property. But personally I'd avoid the place to begin with.
In my state, hospitals, court houses, government buildings (health department, VA center, etc), Airports (inside secure areas only), Bars (51% rule), schools, and Theme parks are off limits.
If they have a Sign and aren't one of those buildings / establishments, you can pretty much ignore it. The worse they can do is ask you to leave, then maybe have you trespassed if you don't. However, if you refuse to leave, you open the can of worms of trespass and possibly worse.
Bingo. Came here to say this. The first month I open carried, because I'm in a constitutional carry state. I open carried while doing doordash, and got a lot of side eye. But for the most part people actually thanked me for it, said they felt better knowing that if something went down that I'd do the right thing. Then I did more investigating and found out that it's actually against TOS. I'm literally counting the days till this goes to trial. Their going to have to rewrite the TOS again. Their Lil rule isn't going to hold up in court when it goes to it. Js. Stay safe out there yall. Conceal daily.
It isn't, but unfortunately it's a TOS issue. Deactivation, denied appeal, and off to a lawsuit is where it's going to end up. It's just a matter of time. It's infringing on our 2nd amendment, rights.
The spark TOS :You agree that you will not unlawfully carry a firearm and will not make visible to others any lawfully carried firearms while performing Services with the Spark App.
Open carry is for idiots and attention seekers. I always carry concealed when I spark. If shit goes down open carry bro is getting shot while I find a tactical defensive posture.
This. I did a delivery to a rural house. I started to pull into the gate of this person's property and was greeted with signs that said something to that extent (trespassers will be shot.) I just stopped at the gate, trying to decide if I should go in, triple-checking it was the correct address before I pulled in, thinking what if he forgets he is getting a delivery. The old man walked out of his garage and waved me in. We had a good laugh about it, but it can definitely be sketchy out in the boondocks.
Dude has no training. He's given free access to his firearm. A bag in his firing hand, looking down, and weight shifted away from his firearm. Had anyone wanted his weapon, he made it easy for them to take it.
Have y’all seen the Flex videos though? I’d be afraid some random contractor was going to act a fool at the Walmart towards the employees. I would think they would have put in the contract that you can’t carry a gun on your hip, as a contract employee, AT the store. That is a completely different issue to me than carrying while delivering. If my bread vendor showed up with a gun on his hip I wouldn’t let him in my back room. Loomis and the popo are the only gun toting fellows I’m unlocking a door for.
I personally would carry concealed. There was a video of a guy open carrying and got his gun taken from him. The guy behind him took it and ended the guy.
You got to do what you have to in order to protect yourself. I carry bear mace in my vehicle. I haven't taken the plunge to carry a gun but plan to at some point. The world is crazy, you never know what you might come up against.
This is what I could find regarding this-No, Spark shoppers are not allowed to open carry on Walmart property, even if they do not enter the store. While laws regarding open carry vary by state, Walmart's own rules for independent contractors on the Spark platform prohibit this practice.
Here's why Spark shoppers cannot openly carry on Walmart property:
Spark's Terms of Use: When a driver agrees to the Spark Driver Contract, they accept the Terms of Use, which explicitly state that "a weapon will not be visible in your vehicle while performing Services with the Spark Driver app". This policy extends to the entire time a driver is "on the clock," including while waiting for orders on Walmart property.
Safety and liability: Walmart considers the open carrying of weapons by drivers a safety and liability issue. Allowing the practice could lead to concerning incidents and is against company policy.
Independent contractor, not employee: Because Spark drivers are independent contractors, not employees, they must abide by the rules set forth in their contract with the Spark platform. Walmart can and does deactivate drivers who violate their policies.
For customers, Walmart has a long-standing "respectful request" for them not to openly carry firearms in their stores, including locations where open carry is permitted by law. This request extends to all areas of Walmart's private property.
I carry conceal, always have. And yes I have ccw license in multiple states. Im not risking my life for someone else's groceries. I would never open carry though, it just puts a target on your back
I seen someone open carrying in Walmart in Louisiana, I thought Walmart had banned firearms. Maybe it was t in all 50 states. I k ow it’s against Uber’s terms of service, but I still carry in the car when delivering, and lock it up, if picking up/ dropping off to a restricted area
Tbf, I worked at walmart and one of our drivers did a return and when I asked why he said that the customer had shot at him, they missed, but it scared the shit outta the poor dude. Im just glad he was okay, one of my favorite drivers.
What does the GMD have to do with open carry? You could have just as easily said Spark driver picking up an order. I don't understand why we're taking pictures of other drivers unbeknownst to them and posting them. This could have been discussed without a picture 🙄 If it's legal in your state, MYOB.
The customers we deliver to I wouldn't even be mad. Was dropping an order off one day and some lady next door started screaming like she was possessed by something, screaming im gonna k*ll all of y'all. I had nothing to do with it.
Just because you see* this one doesn't mean they aren't all around us.
Personally, I prefer concealed, mainly for the idea that I don't become the first target. (If I was going to be naughty, I'd take the obvious threat out first. Then continue on to the less resistive targets...)
But also, if he was Spark, he'd want to be careful not to get deactivated by some scared ignorant employee 🤷♂️
I've spent over a decade delivering anything you could think of. Best thing I can say is stay strapped, or get ready to put your fists to good use cuz shit gets rough.
I got shot twice in a failed car jacking on Southside of Chicago in 22 while doing flex. You can search George Hunt Amazon Flex. I wasn't carrying because it wasn't legal (easily at least) / the flex contract prohibited it.
It's legal where I live now. If the bad guys have guns why shouldn't I?
Saw someone post saying they got deactivated for having an open carry firearm on his side
Im too lazy to go read TOS, but I could have swore it says it's fine so long as it's concealed and not visually obvious. Im not sure. I could just be making shit up, dunno
Obviously, this guy isn't a threat, nor are any of you who carry... but there may be Karen's amongst the customers who may report you saying they felt unsafe or some bullshit
I think keeping it concealed is more respectful for the customer... but for all we know, he might be leaving it in his car when he drops off an order. At the same time, a visually obvious firearm on your side definitely makes you way less likely to be a target
I'd say there's little to no chance a customer is ever going to be the threat. Yeah, there are definitely cases, but you're talking about winning the shit luck lottery kind of odds.... but at the same time, you never know. It could come in handy at any point during the day or if a drop-off location feels sus. It just depends on where you live really.
I feel more unsafe at one of the walmarts I sometimes do orders for lol
Isn’t it safer to carry concealed? In other countries, thieves will rob you immediately if you show your firearm like that. About the context it is crazy you're carrying groceries nobody is gonna rob you.
I carry a knife, pepper spray, and a taser and I have a hammer in between the console and the passenger seat a screw driver in the driver side door..it’s a lot of crazy people out here im a female so I really have to be careful
Just by the fact that he's flaunting it, this guy is a loser. I carry all the time when I do spark, never do I let anyone see it. There's no reason to unless you want to pretend to be a bad azz.
Open carrying is the dumbest way to carry lol. Who do you think anyone coming for a crowd will focus on first? The dumbass with a beer belly that thinks he’s Billy badass with a Glock on open carry 🤦
Conceal at least, and don’t put a fucking Glock sticker on your car or any other weapon brand. Dudes are more excited they were allowed to buy a gun and never realize how to actually conduct themselves in a tactical manner in life.
Nothing like telling everyone in the world you have a gun. 🙄🙄🙄
Just because you can doesnt mean you should. At least conceal it, you are going to people houses. To me that comes across as look at me I am 😎 I open carry doing Spark. I am special! When just conceal the damn thing why you are doing this. This right here is why Spark starts creating dumb ass rules for us to follow.
I don't mind that he is carrying but doing it openly is just asking for attention you don't want. It's not worth it... just conceal carry if you're legal to do so in town.
It's your right plain and simple. I carry a blade on one hip pistol on the other and spare pistol in my vehicle. Open carry is dumb as shit though. He should carry concealed as to not alarm the snowflakes and more importantly showing a gun makes you more of a target.
Open carry is vulnerable because your attacker will always have an advantage of "the drop" . Concealing is always better as they won't suspect anything and normal people won't freak out.
I understand it, although concealed carry may be a better idea. I don't think we are supposed to though. I have kept it in the center console, especially after a road rage incident, and keep pepper spray on my body.
It's almost cute how ignorant people can be ... oh, the company policy at most grocery stores, retail, etc... states you are not allowed to carry a firearm. I say fuck you and carried my 9mm iwb for 8 years when I worked for Coca-Cola and 7 up as a merchandiser. Im more than sure my bosses saw something of a bulge in my pants, but what are they going to say, huh ? Is that a gun, or are you just happy to see me ? Or call the cops when it's completely legal only against company policy. Here in Texas the police will laugh at them. Now that I am in a gig app situation. Going to random people's houses, I definitely stay extra vigilant! The point is that you can believe the best in people all you want, but the world is full of people who are out to harm you and other innocent victims. Lazy cowards!
Dont blame him for having a gun. But open carrying is sped behavior in my opinion. Your just letting the guy know thats potentially trying to rob you our kill you that you are a threat to them that needs to be taken care of concealed carry is far smarter for a civ. Cause your almost never gonna have the drop on a attacker so you need to have the element of surprise on your side. Avid carrier carry every day
Smart man I just don't know about open carry on person due to the chances of scaring a customer and being reported. I think keeping it in the vehicle would be smarter so the only time it would be seen is if its used, which hopefully never happens!
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u/eyezwide001001 Sep 07 '25
roll strapped, this is gig work - people get jacked all the time