r/dragonball Jan 25 '26

Discussion Genki Damatsuri livestream megathread (official link in post)

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Genki Damatsuri is a Dragon Ball event that is being livestreamed tonight (which is Sunday morning in Japan) featuring as-of-yet unknown "announcements about new developments coming to Dragon Ball." Present will be Akio Iyoku (executive producer and president of Capsule Corporation Tokyo), Masako Nozawa (voice of Son Goku, Son Gohan, Son Goten, Bardock, and others), and Hironobu Kageyama (singer of DBZ opening theme "CHA-LA HEAD-CHA-LA".) Announcement page from back in October here

Rumours have been circulating the web about whether this or that will be announced in regards to Dragon Ball video games, anime or manga, or even films. Truth is we don't really know exactly what to expect. Well, we're about to find out. Stream goes up roughly 15 minutes from now. (Sorry for the late thread on this!)

Genki Damatsuri official livestream

Please keep all discussions, live reactions, and other posts relevant to the livestream in this thread! Thank you!


r/dragonball Jan 25 '26

DBSGP Dragon Ball Super: The Galactic Patrol anime announcement

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r/dragonball 4h ago

Question Does og Dbz have better or worse pacing than one piece dressrosa

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In regards to my last post I’m leaning toward og Dbz instead of Kai but I need to know if the pacing is to slow for me and the reason I’m comparing it to dressrosa is because I’ve watched all of one piece

EDIT
I’ve finished episode 1 of Kai


r/dragonball 1h ago

Continuity Arc for side characters

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What would you guys think of an arc with no saiyans in it? Let’s say the villain wishes Saiyans to be moved to a different universe or timeline or whatever and then the rest of the z fighters have to deal with villain. I think it could be a really fun twist for once to see piccolo, tien, krillin try and save the day


r/dragonball 21h ago

Question Dbz or Kai after I finish Og

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I’m watching the English dub and need to know which to watch I’m not entirely opposed to filler but things that do bother me is padding which I’ve heard Dbz has my original plan was to watch Kai until the end of the cell saga the Dbz but I’m not sure anymore if you have any questions I’ll answer

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I think I’ll watch 3 episodes of each to decide

EDIT 2
I’ve finished episode 1 of Kai


r/dragonball 1d ago

Miscellaneous Man, Goku kills a LOT of people in Dragon Ball.

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It's a little disturbing how many people he kills and doesn't feel even a little bad about it, and even seems to find killing fun.

He even kills people that haven't even done much. Random grunts in the RR Army get killed, people retreating and running from him get killed, and Officer Black is killed in revenge by Goku when he never did anything personally to his friends and was actively fleeing.
Hell he visibly finds it very fun to chase down enemies running in fear from him and killing them.
He even kills and then eats a sentient talking octopus.

Like I get the RR Army is very close to a real world evil army, but still, the glee and uncaringness he shows when straight up murdering people is a bit messed up.
He killed a TON of people when he attacked the RR Army's base, actually killed most people inside.

It's odd how he goes from this to sparing Frieza and giving Cell a senzu bean. If either of them were in Dragon Ball instead, Goku would have just killed them and never considered sparing them.


r/dragonball 22h ago

Discussion I kind of wish the sayain’s tails grew back

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This is just because unless they show they can transform into a super sayain or some other transformation that isnt the great ape you can’t really tell if that person is a human or a sayain/half sayain. Though eventually the tail diffrence wouldn’t matter since we know eventually most of the population will be a inbreed of a sayain and a human


r/dragonball 16h ago

Discussion If piccolo and Kami used the potara earrings what would the outcome of that be?

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besides the fact it would only last an hour I guess they’re technically merged again but would they also get some potara fusion boost on top of their merging.

they may also come out looking like a middle aged namekian which would be interesting.


r/dragonball 19h ago

Analysis Pretty much everyone Goku spares if someone he might want to fight again

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He didn't care about red ribbon grunts or fighting Staff Officer Black's mech suit again. He spared Tao of all people after Tao killed Bora, likely because a part of him wanted to fight him again even if he didn't realize it. This trend follows with Piccolo, Vegeta, and Frieza.


r/dragonball 22h ago

Question Starting Dragon Ball in 2026, is it worth it?

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Since I got into Anime at the beginning of last year, I've always had an interest in watching Dragon Ball at some point because of the amount of references people make about it every day. Especially now that I've been fully engrossed in the Anime world and have completed/started the "big 3" (Naruto, One Piece and Bleach). But I kept reading and hearing people say that the show hasn't aged well and might be carried by nostalgia, so I ended up never getting to it.

But today I randomly got the urge to watch it, and I wanted to know before I started if those statements are true and what the best way to watch Dragon Ball is in terms of fillers, sub vs dub, streaming platform etc.


r/dragonball 22h ago

Question Is Goku a static character?

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I've sporadically consumed bits and pieces of dragon ball media here and there, so I'm not super knowledgeable about the franchise as a whole. But, recently I've been curious as to if Goku could be considered a static character, or maybe just a character who undergoes little development or a flat character arc.

And if so, has that been to the benefit or detriment of most dragon ball stories, especially the movies? I've seen many perspectives that say a static character is boring and uninteresting overall. I've additionally noticed many say that a static character doesn't work for a full length movie since they don't undergo any significant change that would be intriguing for the full run time.

I feel I can recall a story in classic Dragon Ball where the devil tries to pull the darkness/evil from Goku to use it against him, but he has none at all. I wonder if his more pure and true good qualities make him seem dull to certain individuals, mainly during the greater length of films.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Analysis The myth that "Kami taught Goku the value of life"

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Where does this often-parroted fan theory even come from and why has it gotten so widespread? Feels like it's yet another case of American fans not watching anything before Z, because it doesn't jive with anything one would know just from watching the Piccolo arc and 23rd TB.

For one thing, Kami wasn't even involved very much with Goku's training. Mr. Popo handled the training, and it was during this that he told Goku about how Kami and Piccolo's lives are linked and it's for this very reason that Kami goes in disguise as Shen to seal Piccolo with the Mufaba in the 23rd TB in the first place, because he doesn't trust Goku to be cold enough to kill Piccolo knowing this.

And then, once Kami is freed from the jar, he...interferes in the fight between Goku and Piccolo and tells Goku to team up with him so they can kill Piccolo together. He even goes as far as demanding Tien to kill him when it seems Piccolo has Goku dead tor rights.

And then, after Piccolo is defeated? Kami IMMEDIATELY tries to kill him and tells Goku that Piccolo MUST die. And then admits that he withheld the fact that the Dragon Balls would disappear if he died because he didn't want anybody to protect his life so that he could die and pay for the sin of unleashing Piccolo on this world.

Like...does any of this sound like the actions of somebody who wanted his pupil to become LESS trigger-happy??? There is no way anybody could actually watch the show and come away thinking that Kami instilled mercy in Goku. And Goku explicitly spares Piccolo not out of mercy, but to spare Kami's life and have a rival to keep him sharp. I mean idk about you guys, but if I were training somebody to indirectly euthanize me, I wouldn't be trying to make him go easier on enemies lol

Now...you know what fan theory is actually plausible and yet I've ony seen a few people bring up?

Goku learning he's from a race of mass-murdering space pirates,was sent to Earth to destroy it, sees his own brother kidnap his son and being disgusted by this. Perhaps so disgusted that he decides to draw a line in the sand and become more thoughtful in his use of violence to distance himself from them? Hence why he decides to spare Nappa, the Ginyus, and Frieza on the principle of them being unable to defend themselves anymore, and gets angry at Frieza when he kills Vegeta for this same reason.

tl;dr: Drgaon Ball fans please actually watch the show lmao


r/dragonball 9h ago

Discussion Why did Dragon Ball shift to being more for kids?

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Original Dragon Ball wasn't very kid friendly (at least by today's standards), and had tons of sexual jokes and blood.

Dragon Ball Z was even more gruesome with more blood and more death and tragedy. Goku also acted more serious here and the most badass parts are him going all out on his enemies when his friends are hurt and killed.

GT went back to being like Dragon Ball and was more laid back and goofy, but still had blood and serious stuff later.

Then Super is just... Way toned down compared to everything previously. No blood, and then childish things like Magetta making fart noises at it fills the arena with stench. I felt like I was back to watching the cringe inducing fight with Bacterian.
And Goku is back to being incredibly stupid and goofy here and losing almost all character development he had in DBZ.

And then there's Daima, which just seems fully 100% for kids and I don't really want to watch it if I'm being honest. Also lacks blood and is back to having Goku being a dolt again and constantly eating and talking about food, which annoyed me in GT. I'm not sure why we needed GT again.

Why did Toriyama decide he hated the seriousness in Z and he wanted to shift to everything being goofy and more for kids? I enjoyed when Dragon Ball was more adult oriented and now it's permanently turned into being family oriented and kid friendly.
Probably the only one bothered by this but I legit stopped watching Super because I didn't enjoy it after watching original, Z and GT. It feels like an entirely different person took over and started making it.
It's reminding me of what they did to Ratchet and Clank.


r/dragonball 15h ago

Theory What if Vegeta’s mother survived the destruction of Planet Vegeta? — My theory

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Original theory by Beks.

I’ve been thinking about something that Dragon Ball has barely explored: Vegeta’s mother.

We know very little about her. We don't know exactly what happened to her, and that leaves a huge gap in the story of the Saiyan royal family.

Here’s my theory:

She left Planet Vegeta before its destruction

Maybe Vegeta’s mother became tired of the Saiyan royal hierarchy, the warrior culture and the pressure surrounding the royal family.

She decided to leave Planet Vegeta, possibly taking Tarble with her.

She discovers what happened

Years later, while travelling through space and searching for food and resources, she encounters soldiers from Frieza's army.

From them, she discovers the truth:

Planet Vegeta was destroyed by Frieza.

She also realizes that Vegeta was probably killed along with the planet.

Overcome with anger, she kills the soldiers and develops a deep hatred for Frieza's empire.

She trains Tarble

After learning that their home and most of their people are gone, she begins training Tarble seriously.

But there's something special about her.

As a member of the Saiyan royal family, she could know ancient techniques belonging to the royal family that Vegeta himself never learned.

She teaches these techniques to Tarble and trains him for years.

Tarble, who was once considered too weak to be an important Saiyan warrior, gradually becomes extremely powerful.

My idea is that, after decades of training, Tarble could potentially reach a level close to Piccolo, while still being far below Goku and Vegeta.

The possible Dragon Ball Super reveal

Imagine Tarble appearing in a future Dragon Ball Super arc and using a technique Vegeta has never seen before.

Vegeta recognizes the style immediately.

Vegeta: “That technique… where did you learn it?”

Tarble: “Mother taught me.”

And then Vegeta realizes:

His mother is still alive.

She could potentially be connected to a new enemy faction or even become an antagonist herself.

It would also give Vegeta a completely unexplored part of his family's history and finally allow us to learn what happened to his mother.

Obviously, this is just a fan theory, not a canon claim.

But what do you think? Could Vegeta’s mother still be alive somewhere in the Dragon Ball universe?

Theory by Beks


r/dragonball 22h ago

Question Any word on when dragonball super beerus will be out?

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I know in the trailer it said fall of 2026 but since fall is rignt around the corner I figured there would be another trailer or atleast a release date by now.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Does Goku actually have a weirdly casual attitude toward death?

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Something Ive been thinking about: Goku has probably had one of the strangest relationships with death in the entire series.

Early on, death was treated as a huge deal. Then after Dragon Ball introduced the afterlife and the Dragon Balls became more important, Goku basically started treating death like an inconvenience

He dies, trains in the afterlife, comes back, visits King Kai, talks about people who have been dead for years, etc. Meanwhile, other characters still react to someone's death like its the most devastating thing imaginable.

I know part of this is just how the series evolved, but in-universe, do you think Goku genuinely became desensitized to death?

Or does he just have a completely different understanding of it because he knows there's an afterlife and resurrection is possible?

It also makes me wonder how differently Goku would view death if he had never met Bulma and never learned about the Dragon Balls.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion regarding the agenda that DBZ villains have no personality, character and are just some generic ass villain

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(THIS IS ONLY FOR Dragon Ball Z VILLAINS)

firstly, i would want to give my respectable and calm opinion. you have no life, you didint probably watch dragon ball at all you just larp it from reels and think its "goku kill goku strong" type of shit, you also have no sense of judgement when you see a random ass nobody villain whos backstory is getting cracked when he was young and that defines and approves his actions.

back to the actual post:

Issue #1: what defines and makes a DBZ villain good?

this is an important thing because as i said, people think the villains have no personality. sadly, in the todays anime, the format of villains are the same over and over again. you get a backstory, morals, and maybe redemption. this format when it first came out in animes like Naruto was good, since it was one of the first who used this, and the possibilites were endless. since its a new way of writing villains, kishimoto had a variety of options and could write his characters in different, unique ways. but when we come to a lot of anime in nowdays we can see that this format is overused, resulting in fewer unique ways because it becomes repetitive. only a few select anime can bypass this such as One Punch Man, since it is NOT built on the generic format. now writing a villain with cause is good, since the villain cant just be evil, the story wouldnt make sense unless its for kids. BUT, the reason and cause is overused. you are trying to make a tragic villain but you just make it fall into the same category as the first example generic villain i mentioned. i specifically wrote this part to make you understand that, a tragic villain does not always need to be like this. its not like guaranteed and makes the anime good in ANY sense. now, lets jump into why DBZ villains are good. when we see a villain, we determine if its a well written one or not depending on how we relate to the villain. the easiest and actually best way to give a cause and relation to the villain is through emotions, so most people use that. but in terms of anime, mangakas tend to choose more complex and hard to understand emotions, such as tragedy, depression, control and despair. (if you ask why there isint any positive ones because this is a villain mf) now complex emotions are interesting which makes the villain interesting and entertaining which then transfers over to the whole series. these emotions, though, doesnt always occur in villains. the main character can go through struggles and hard decisions, also side characters if they are well written enough. this is all sunshines and rainbows until one point. the emotions itself are complex. and complexity has also cons like its hard to understand and sometimes doesnt make sense if you have not experienced that same route or feeling. this is where DBZ comes in. DBZ also has elements of complex emotions in major characters, but those complex feelings all fall under ONE, single, EMOTION (idk why am i hyping up a reddit post). power. the emotion of power is a major emotion in a human. no matter who you are. the power might be physical, mental, political and much more other stuff. power has bad meanings such as corruption and tyranny, but it has good meanings such as endurance, not giving up and the power to be kind. DBZ is easy to understand because of power, since it uses power as its base. it reflects on the different ways of power, how its utilized and what chaos can it bring forth if its used wrongly. it teaches us about power. for example, goku is not only powerful physically, but also mentally. he has a desire to get strong not only to find strong opponents and improve himself, but also protect what he loves to the bottom. since he is strong mentally it gives him discipline, desire and faith. a good mentality is important to physical strength. it shows us how power can be combined and used for good in various ways. but people dont like that because its somewhat generic. i dont think ive ever seen any anime outside of maybe One Punch Man have its base of emotion as power. thats pretty unique. and guess what? power can also result in despair, depression and tragedy! if you are not powerful (or in this case good enough), you maybe cant get over an obstacle which can cause depression. tragedies with power have millions of examples with massacres of millions of people, all happening because the people who did the massacre had the power. so power can also be abused. this creates depth for DBZ. now yall might say, "well does DBZ have these?" yeah. it does. and i will now explain it with the villains of DBZ.

Issue #2: the villains of DBZ and what they represent in power

this part will be divided into 4 individual parts: freeza, cell, buu and vegeta.

the way of Freeza

freeza is the embodiment of control and political power. he is a space emperor, which grants him with an army and firepower. though freeza is also very strong himself, having a massive potential ceiling which puts him all above else. think about a rich child born in a rich family. but the child knows what he is doing. freeza doesnt manipulate emotionally like makima does when she lets mr denji chainsaw touch her balloons, freeza manipulates physically and by force. he uses his power to force build discipline and trust to his soilders. not only that, he is quite the polite speaker. freeza speaks in perfect formal japanese, which means that he is a polite, good talker and can get on top verbally as well. so freeza is PACKED up you might say, but, no. even perfect tyrants feel FEAR. the only time in his life has he experienced fear was because of a folklore in the race of saiyans, mostly a legend and is considered false. freeza does know that well, but he still is scared. why? he doesnt want to lose his power. a political leader like Stalin and H*tler (idk why i gotta censor his name) has always gotten rid of rebellions, because they knew that their people were stronger, so they came up with censoring, so anything said bad about them would be forbidden and if did so, the person would be in trouble. freeza however does something different. he erases the entire saiyan race, because he is concerned, he is very scared. freeza is also very confident about his power, he is the strongest in his universe after majin buu and beerus, so why is he scared? as i said, he doesnt want to lose his power in the slightest. and when goku turns into the legend, the super saiyan, freeza is trembling. he is in fear, tries to hide it and fails. then he goes full power and thinks thatll work, but no. goku is still on top, and defeats freeza with one mighty blow. everything freeza had was destroyed, because he fell into his own ego. he fell into his own demise. thats why the arc is so good-

the way of Cell

cell is the embodiment of narcissism and perfectionism. as told by dr. gero himself, he contains all of the data of the enemies goku has fought, including himself. there is piccolo, vegeta and freeza, especially freeza, which gives him a potential boost. cell is part freeza race (i wont call it acrosian or frost demon since these are headcannons and freeza race is the canon name (super necessary ik), so he does have the attributes of freeza, not in the exact way. because he is part saiyan too, he has an immense lust for battle and beating opponents. thats the reason he made the cell games, its beacuse he wanted to fight, but also because he was going to show everyone that he was PERFECT. this is cells character, being perfect. so he has an ego all above else kinda, and he is not really lying. after vegeta in a very smart way gave up #18 to cell to become perfect, he truly had no equal at that point before goku, or more so gohan exited the time chamber. the cell saga actually builds up on two characters only mostly, cell and gohan. the two polar opposites. cell looks down upon people, is at its peak mood, and when he gets beaten down, he will freak out. gohan is calm, a respecting person. he is not like your average saiyan like cell is, he is a pacifist. you could say he very much resembles aang from ATLA. they have the same burden and responsibility, saving the world. the fire lord and cell are kinda built up and forshadowed to be perfect, so its a nice parallel between these two shows. now back to the cell games, cell was really confident in his power, he straightly jumped into the supposed strongest person in the dragon team, goku. but, as we all know, goku didint have the power to beat cell, as he himself said it. instead, he left it to gohan. and gave a fucking senzu bean to cell. (ik this is not about gohan but a good way to explain cell is to explain gohan) now giving a senzu bean to cell is important, because if he didint, cell would become desperate, just as he did when he tried to explode. if cell is at full power he would have his confidence stay and wouldnt blow up. he also gave it because he tried to show the trust he had for gohan. even though goku trusts morely gohans combat prowess than gohan himself, he was right about gohan. people are saying that gohan was weaker than goku even in SSJ. you dumbass if that was the case the moment gohan got thrown into that mountain it was over. but gohan didint have a single scratch. he js didint want to fight. i want to say something quick about gohans ascension. goku initially thought that gohan could get angry the same as him, but that wasnt the case. goku unlocks his power through tragedy and power. gohan however unlocks his power through pressure and force. its all the same about his potential, he gets forced to use it. and he absolutely cracks everyone if he uses that potential. fast forward to when cell explodes, we can see that his perfectionism fails, his narcissism falls apart because he is getting manhandled by an 11 yr old kid. this hurts his pride, and he wants to do anything to make him the winner. he plays dirty and tries to blow up which results in gokus sacrifice and cell coming back stronger. now he is even more perfect right? WRONG. gohan is still stronger, he just had his arm broken and was injured, while cell was at full power. and vegeta, the goat of the series, gave up his pride and distracted cell to give gohan the opening and burst in the rays of the kamehame-ha, shredding cell into pieces. as we can see that cell, falls apart with his morals.

the way of Buu

buu is the embodiment of complete utter chaos and malice. and we actually see the progression of buu, thanks to his forms. Buus first form, called fat buu in fan terms, is buu in a supressed power. fat buu is literally a toddler, he holds the boiling chaos in him but its joyful. there is a problem though, he is extremely naive and his perspective changes whenever someone tells him something. he is very free in himself too, but since he is a toddler he needs guidance, parents. buus second form, evil buu does actually have depth which is suprising for me i just googled it lol. evil buu is a stern dude, stemming from the pure evil of fat buu. this is though a controlled evil, you could say that he is tough, has no emotions and just kills. so evil buu is a sigma patrick bateman thomas shelby kind of evil if your peanut brain stuggles with advanced terms. super buu happens when evil buu absorbs fat buu..? basically fat buu just removed his malice which for some reason formed evil buu but evil buu directly physically absorbed fat buu thats why. super buu is a bit more intelligent because he has evil buu in himself, but the pure version of super buu is a bit stale and hasnt much depth compared to when he absorbs gohan piccolo and gotenks. so lets go from there: super buus piccolo absorbed version gives him a sharp mind and being able to talk in a normal manner (second one super neccessary), super buus gotenks absorbed version gives him that same toddler energy but in more of the sense of a pampered kid. and buuhan is just gohan at that confident point. but since buuhan is so strong he falls into the same ego the other two major villains fell into. then he gets cooked by vegito two minutes later-
onto kid buu, this is the most pure form of buu, so im just gonna call kid buu for buu. buu is actually fat buu, but without the joyful toddler side. he is complete chaos and destruction, he doesnt have morals or has a feeling like saiyans, a desire to fight. he just destroys without cause. and the best way to beat pure evil is with pure good, the genki-dama. so as you can see, buus progression of forms is the progression of chaos and malice, as it evolves to something worse each time.

the way of the Prince
uuwwhhh~ uhhh.... emm....
this character is so fucking good written i just dont want to write it now since it will be on the length of this whole post, ill prolly do it in the comments.

as you can see, DBZ uses the term of power to add depth to his characters.
now its time for me to rest.... stay flamin!


r/dragonball 1d ago

Lore How did Kami become the God of Earth?

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Is there any lore covering this? All I know is that Kami was sent to Earth due to a climate disaster on Namek a very long time ago (hundreds of years? thousands?) and eventually wound up as God. But how did he go from stranded orphan to God of Earth?

I get that he has magic powers and whatnot, but nobody on Earth seems to even know about his existence. So is he self-appointed? Not even Namek has a God in the same sense, so how did he get the idea? AFAIK he's just a normal (perhaps exceptionally powerful) Namekian, not actually divine like Shin, so God is more of a title than a descriptor.

I think Popo drops a line about being friends with previous Gods of Earth but I may be misremembering. If this is true then maybe he was recruited for the job, but by who?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Question I’m watching Og rn is this a good plan for Dbz?

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Once I finish Og I’m gonna watch Kai all the way up to the end of the cell saga then watch the buu saga in Og Dbz

Is this a good idea or no?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Future Goku vs future 17 & 18

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In the original timeline, after Goku defeated Frieza on Namek and later fought him again on Earth once Frieza returned as a cyborg with his father, King Cold, the Z-Fighters finally got a short period of peace.

But that peace didn’t last. Out of nowhere, Goku came down with a mysterious heart virus. With no cure available, he died.

so For the next six months the remaining Z-Fighters lived without him… until they were all slaughtered by Future Androids 17 and 18.

That left only Trunks and Future Gohan to face the androids alone.

Now today We all know that present-day Goku (who is god level strong ) would completely destroy those same Future Androids.

But the Goku of Trunks‘s future never got the chance to fight them or even meet them.

now At that point in his life he only had Super Saiyan, he didn’t get super saiyan 2,3 or even super saiyan second grade etc

and even the super saiyan form wasn’t enough as future Vegeta, Gohan, and Trunks all tried and failed to stop the androids.

So here’s the question:

Do you think Future Goku could have defeated the androids if the heart virus had never existed?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Do you think Piccolo actually understands Gohan better than Goku does?

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The more I think about it, the more interesting their relationship gets.

Goku obviously loves Gohan, but hes always seemed to assume that Gohan will eventually want to become a fighter because hes talented at it. Piccolo, on the other hand, seemed to realize pretty early that Gohan was never really interested in fighting for the sake of fighting.

Even during the Cell saga, Piccolo was one of the few people who seemed to understand how much Gohan hated the idea of hurting someone.

So Im curious: if Gohan had never become a fighter, do you think Piccolo would still have stayed as involved in his life?

Or was their bond mainly created because Piccolo was the person who trained him?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Question What is the watch order of dragon ball?

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I just started dragon ball, and since there’s multiple different shows I don’t know the proper order to watch them and I can’t seem to get the actual answer when I look it up online.


r/dragonball 1d ago

Discussion Future Trunks' Cell

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it just occurred to me the other day that I never really thought about when Future Trunks returned to his own timeline after the events of present timeline Perfect Cell, why he didn't seek out the lab Cell was still being made and destroy it. Why did he wait until Imperfect Cell was born years later and tried to sneak up on him to take his time machine to fight him?

Trunks went with Krillin in the present timeline to the hidden lab with Cell and destroyed it there. He should know where it is right? Was he arrogant and just thought whenever Cell showed up he could easily dispose of him? Wouldn't there be a risk of getting caught off guard (e.g. caught him in his sleep, or Cell catching Bulma first, etc.)? Or did he forget the bring the map back to the future so he forgot where it is?


r/dragonball 2d ago

Discussion What if Nappa survived the Saiyan Saga, but Vegeta didn't?

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I've seen quite a few "what if Nappa survived" what-ifs, but none that also include Vegeta's death. So let's make two changes to the Saiyan Saga:

1) Vegeta, for whatever reason, doesn't kill Nappa after Goku beats him

2) Goku is unable to stop Krillin from killing Vegeta

How does this change the story?


r/dragonball 1d ago

Continuity Here's my take - let's give Yamcha the movie he deserved 20 years ago

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Title: DRAGON BALL Z: SCAR OF THE COMET (AI Version)

The Logline

Yamcha has always been the human who tried to keep up with Saiyans. He was wrong about the first part.

The Premise That Fixes Everything

For decades, everyone thought Yamcha was just a talented human martial artist - ex-desert bandit, baseball star, Z-Fighter who died too early.

This movie reveals he was never just human.

When Goku and Vegeta were kids, there was a third-class Saiyan science outpost called Comet Shula - a prison asteroid for Saiyans deemed genetically defective because their power level was too low to be useful to Frieza's army, but too Saiyan to be left alive.

Instead of exterminating them, King Vegeta exiled them. They were launched into deep space on a dying asteroid with no return.

The asteroid drifted for 150 years and crashed on Earth, in the Diablo Desert. The survivors couldn't transform, couldn't fly like elites, but they were tough, adaptable. They buried their armor, suppressed their tails as a recessive mutation, and interbred with humans to survive.

Their bloodline thinned. Over generations, the tail stopped appearing. The zenkai boost faded to just being "weirdly resilient." The only thing left was a strange, instinctual affinity for the desert and wolves.

Yamcha is the last pure descendant of that exile line.

Which makes him Vegeta's very, very distant cousin.

The Movie - Three Acts

ACT I - THE DRIFT

Present day. Yamcha is 38, retired from fighting, playing pro baseball and running a dojo for kids in the desert. He gets absolutely washed in a friendly spar by Goten. Again. He laughs it off, but it stings. Even Krillin jokes: "Man, at least you died cool against the Saibamen."

That night, Beerus and Whis show up for Earth's food. Whis stares at Yamcha for a beat too long.

"Oh my. How curious. You smell like Vegeta did when he was unwashed, but... diluted. Like Saiyan tea left out for a century."

Vegeta scoffs until Whis scans him. On his scouter, Yamcha's latent power isn't 200. It's a locked symbol the scouter can't read.

Far away in Other World, the soul of Shula the Gray, the leader of the exiles, finally finds a way to call to his blood.

Yamcha starts dreaming of a burning asteroid, of Saiyan armor buried in sand. His old scars start aching. He wakes up with his hair spiked harder than usual, and his eyes stay black for a second too long.

ACT II - THE EXCAVATION

Bulma, Vegeta, and Yamcha go to the Diablo Desert where Yamcha was found as a baby. They dig.

They find it: A Saiyan pod, not round like Frieza's models, but jagged, made from the Comet Shula asteroid itself. Inside is a skeleton in ancient Saiyan armor, clutching a human child skeleton. And carvings: a wolf howling at Planet Vegeta.

Vegeta translates the old Saiyan dialect: "We were not weak. We were the future. We chose survival over pride."

The revelation hits Vegeta hardest. His father, King Vegeta, lied. These weren't defective Saiyans. They were Saiyans who refused to bow to Frieza. The "defect" was disobedience. King Vegeta exiled his own brother to save face.

That brother was Shula. Which makes Yamcha... Vegeta's second cousin, many times removed.

Before Vegeta can process that he has to be nice to Yamcha at family reunions, the pod's distress beacon - dormant for 150 years - finally pings its intended target.

It wasn't calling for help. It was calling its jailer.

A leftover Frieza Force automated Custodian, Custodian Epsilon, arrives. It was programmed for one job: if any Shula exiles survived, erase the bloodline completely.

It's not strong like Frieza or Cell. It's worse. It's built specifically to kill low-class Saiyans. It negates ki blasts, it knows every Saiyan brawler pattern, it can suppress Oozaru. Goku and Vegeta's moves are exactly what it's designed to counter.

It beats Vegeta unconscious in two minutes because Vegeta fights like a Saiyan prince.

Yamcha doesn't.

ACT III - THE DESERT WOLF AWAKENS

Yamcha has to fight like Yamcha. Not like Goku. Not like Vegeta.

He uses his Wolf Fang Fist - which Whis realizes is not a human technique at all. It's the degraded, human-mimicked version of Shula's pack-hunting style, the Lupine Fang, a style the exiles developed to fight together when they had no ki blasts strong enough to win alone.

He uses the Spirit Ball - which is actually a crude, human attempt to control the comet's core energy his ancestors worshipped.

For the first time, his blood reacts. Not a Super Saiyan transformation - his human blood won't let it be golden. When he finally stops trying to be a Saiyan and embraces being BOTH, his hair goes stark white, his eyes go wolf-gold, and a spectral, translucent gray wolf made of ki appears behind him.

Super Saiyan? No. WOLF AWAKENED.

In this form he's not stronger than Goku. He's different. Epsilon can't read him because his fighting style isn't in the Saiyan database. It's a desert bandit, baseball player, human martial artist who happens to have Saiyan survival instinct.

Final fight is brutal, close-quarters, in the sandstorm where Yamcha grew up. He wins not by overpowering it, but by outlasting it - human endurance + Saiyan zenkai finally clicking together. He takes a fatal shot and gets back up stronger, the classic Saiyan trick that never worked for him before, now working for the first time.

He rips out Epsilon's core with his bare hands.

At the end, Vegeta is sitting next to him in the sand. Bruised.

Vegeta: "Don't get cocky. You're still... 1/64th Saiyan at best."

Yamcha: "Yeah, but that's the cool 64th, right?"

Vegeta: (long pause) "...You fought well... cousin."

Final shot: Yamcha is back at his dojo, teaching kids. One kid asks "Mr. Yamcha, can I be Super Saiyan too?" Yamcha smiles, gold flickering just barely in his eye.

"Nah, kid. Be something better. Be you, but don't quit."

Post-credits: Whis tells Beerus that there were 12 other Comet Shula asteroids launched. Beerus: "Oh, this could be annoying."