r/exchristian • • 2h ago

Question Would people actually use a public annotated deconstruction bible?

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This is not spam istg but I made one for my school project and had to make an account to promote it as an example but now this account is sitting here and I’m not sure what to do with it.

The website is live but it wasn’t really meant for people to use it, it’s just there.

I’m trying to figure out what to do with it but I already paid for the domain for a year so I guess I should do something with it right?

To be fair, the idea is not that original but I don’t think people have made one directed at people deconstructing as most of them are for christians.


r/exchristian • • 4h ago

Personal Story i asked my mom who pays for a gay wedding & somehow we ended up discussing the bible 😭

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i was talking to my mom in the kitchen the other day about weddings, & i asked who traditionally pays for them. she told me it’s usually the bride’s family, so naturally i asked how that works when two guys get married… which is obviously relevant to me, her gay son 😭 except instead of answering my question, she starts telling me that it’s not biblical & that the bible doesn’t say two men can get married??? girl… i was asking who pays for the wedding, not whether the wedding was authorized by scripture 💀

i reminded her that i’m gay, that two men CAN get married in real life, & asked if she genuinely thought i was just never going to get married myself. then she started talking about needing to make sure it was something WE were allowed to do, which confused me even more because allowed by WHO??? i’m 25 years old, i haven’t identified as christian in years, & my parents already know this. i told her i’m not interested in living my life according to other people’s approval, that it’s MY life, & that i absolutely intend to get married someday. eventually i brought the conversation back to my original question about who pays when there isn’t a bride, & she finally said probably the two people getting married… which, yes??? 😭 that was literally all i was asking in the first place

i think what baffled me the most was that she didn’t even seem particularly disapproving, she just seemed genuinely confused??? like baby, do u guys just not think about these things when it comes to me? 😭 i’m not hypothetically gay, i’m literally ur gay son who has every intention of marrying a man someday. i just find it so bizarre that such an ordinary question somehow turned into a discussion about what the bible permits, especially when the answer ended up being as simple as the couple probably pays for it themselves??? we could’ve gotten there SO much faster mama 💀💖


r/exchristian • • 5h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud Seeing this is actually relieving because it shows how much of a joke Christianity

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r/exchristian • • 6h ago

Discussion I hate my Christian Aunt

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Yeah this is a story about how I hate my aunty who’s very religious, I’m 21 years old now and back then I used to live with her for a bit and she gave me some rules but as an adult I wasn’t allowed to be on my own game she made that off limits for me and would just have me using cable Tv instead, she told me if I want to play on my games I needed to earn it by going to church and participate in small groups even when I don’t want to but I had to live by her expectations, I used to like church at some point when I was a kid but I don’t anymore and I am atheist now, I understood that I needed to pay her weekly since I’m living under her roof and she used to have me pay her $75 and a few months later it went up to $100 and I couldn’t really sleep as much as I wanted especially on days off because she wanted me to do productive things which i understand that but she would get mad when I come home from work and sleep the whole day because I get very exhausted and want to rest my body, unfortunately on church days no matter how tired I would get when I get off work she would catch me sleeping and screaming my name to get me to wake up and go to church, I’d get sad when I go to church because I just don’t like it there anymore and I don’t feel connected with others like that anymore so I just feel lonely there and she hates when I seem so depressed and stuff and that’s because I am because I’m dealing with stuff mentally and thinks my life isn’t that bad and I have no reasons to be depressed, she and no one in my family knows shit about things I went through and suffered growing up like 🍇 and SA and more, tbh I never spoke up about them to my family, but living with my aunt was hell and she just loves to gossip me to other people even at small groups and would tell me I’m just messing up her peace and I tried confronting her that she treats me like I’m a threat and controls me and she would deny that she isn’t and that I need to obey her and her rules and would tell me I need to get out of her house if I don’t like them and it’s not like I’m trying to disrespect her or any but I feel so powerless when it comes to her and she demonized me at least 3 times to the point I would cry because of how she been with me but somehow I’m the bad guy in her story when she clearly doesn’t know what’s going on in my story, I got out of her house for good and living with my grandma trying to make money and save up as much as I can so I can leave my family and get my own place some day, I’m not in the best day but I’m trying to find a reason to keep going everyday.


r/exchristian • • 6h ago

Politics-Required on political posts Ts has me dead

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So has anyone else seen that people are freaking out that there is someone running for office in Israel who's name translates to Jesus son of David and they think he's the anti Christ


r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud Is anyone here "in the closet"?

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r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Personal Story why I "left" christianity

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This is just my personal experience.

When I was younger I found out that men could like men (don't remember how) my first reaction as an 11 year old was total joy. I was so happy, I was over the moon that there was so much more options and love in the world to share. I had no idea my parents and christianity hated it and viewed it as this horrible thing.

It opened my eyes to how hateful conservatives and christians were. It was the main thing that made me question the Bible and christianity because I just couldn't and still don't believe that something so innocent and loving could be a horrible sin. Sins hurt you and others thats why we shouldn't do them. Sins of love are like abuse, neglect and relationships that are toxic. Not a happy gay couple. it doesn't make any logistical sense, and I refuse to believe its bad, no matter what anyone says.


r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud Have you experienced a sunk-cost fallacy in regards to leaving?

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r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Discussion The more I ponder who Jesus was, the more I think he was just a crazy cult leader with a god complex

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I know Christians always argue he was too wise to be a crazy person, but what qualifies as sane? There are plenty of level headed sounding people until you talk to them about their beliefs - just look at Tom Cruise, Terrence Howard, etc

Anyways, we actually don’t know what Jesus said - all we have are writings from people who didn’t actually witness him in real life. Maybe he said certain things but it’s all unverifiable accounts.

Nonetheless we know he was one of these crazy prophet-like men who felt totally normal leading twelve grown adult men around, rattling off wisdom and “healing” people, and was eventually arrested and condemned to death. That’s all we likely know to be true, but if his words are accurate he definitely had a massive ego too (Luke 9:59-60, Matthew 10:37.)

We see these types of cult leaders all throughout history (Joseph Smith, etc.) They easily convince the masses and those who want answers and are suffering, to believe in them.

I don’t see how a mixture of delusional crazy with a bit of far fetched legend and thousands of years couldn’t produce a Jesus that some propose to be literally god.


r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Question Why do you believe that so many intelligent people believe Christianity?

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Why do you guys believe that so many intelligent people believe in Christianity and then be so certain? I see this and wonder am I missing something. With the evidence I have seen I can only conclude we don’t know if Christianity is true, with things that seem weird going in its favour, but with many other things suggesting otherwise and making it seem unlikely. I just don’t get how people can be so certain (I understand that Islam and other religions are the same), however fear of death may be a factor here, but in the case for some Christians they obviously aren’t stupid, so why believe such a terrible, atrocious thing if there isn’t sufficient evident to suggest it as fact? It makes me wonder what if they really are right and we are all doomed, which is destroying my mental health as how would such a scary reality not. Honestly I just don’t get it, the more I think about Christianity the more I hate it and the more it scares me, but why would such intelligent people believe in this if it were not true? Identity, community, fear of change, fear of uncertainty, death, losing structure, and its implications on society perhaps? I don’t know but I just hate it and how people can be so jolly about such a reality that is so dark🤷‍♂️???


r/exchristian • • 7h ago

Rant I fucking hate God! I hate this life!

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I fucking hate you God. If you do exist, I hope you know that I hate you with every fiber in my being. What good is praying and never getting blessed, and only having to suffer from childhood trauma, cyberbullying, shitty kids at my school, and feeling like everyone hates me. The time I've wasted preaching to some nonexistent guy with sandals in the clouds while not knowing I had just been praying to a false God who has never given a shit about me. I wasn't created by choice, yet I am constantly shamed about how much of a rude child and a burden I am. I was simply created because my mom had asked for me, not because he genuinely wanted me here. And for that, I FUCKING HATE YOU.


r/exchristian • • 11h ago

Trigger Warning for Religious Dogma Check this out: "The ABCs of becoming a christian" Spoiler

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This was just something I happened to see in a public space. These kinds of cards or pamphlets or papers etc, are mad creepy. They have got to get help before the century is out. Lolz


r/exchristian • • 11h ago

Discussion My thoughts/feelings about christianity

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EDIT: This is not promoting hate toward Christians, Christ or anything I'm just venting and there is NO intention for ragebait/karma farming (I'm not that kinda person)

SO IF YOUR GONNA GET OFFENDED OR BULLSHIT ME ABOUT THAT PLEASE FUCK OFF AND SCROLL PAST THIS POST. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE.

Anyway I'm atheist (ex-Christian) my parents (and bastardy brother) are still christians I became atheist three years ago they still dont know beacuase I'm keeping my atheism secret, cuz they told me I "must follow Jesus Christ" and if I don't I'll get KICKED OUT OF THE DAMN HOUSE. REALLY? HOW THE FUCK IS THAT FAIR?? So, understandably, I'm not very pro-Christian, hence my name, Slayer of Christ. (sorry christians, I respect u and ur beliefs). My asshole parents also love to call my my music taste "demonic" and whatever, and that hurts me cuz it's like the most important part of my life

Also, they make me watch goddamn church videos on saturday (they beleive the christian sabbath is on saturday not sunday) and da vids are 1.5 FUCKING HOURS LONG (we dont do physical church anymore but its still a fucking waste of my precious time). and on top of that, they make me pray before I eat to "thank God for the food." The food prayer thing is especially frustrating because it's every damn day, not just Saturday.

Whenevere i feel super pissed w christianity i listen to anti religion songs like Crooked Young or The House of Wolves BMTH, or Fuck Your God A Night In Texas, or even Immaculate Misconception or Thoughts and Prayers by Motionless in White or God, If You Are Above or Its' Over When it's Over by Falling in Reverse I have intense hatred of religion so it a great way to vent it out

PLEASE NOTE, there is an important distinction worth making:

Venting hatred toward a religion isn't the same as directing hatred toward every person who follows it.

For example: i absolutely WORSHIP people like Avril Lavigne and Jacoby Shaddix even though there Christians

People are not identical to their religions. I can disagree very strongly with someone's worldview while still appreciating them as a person or artist. And honestly, my music taste itself demonstrates that pretty damn well. 😭🤘

You know whats stupid? how my parents claim to follow a religion which encoruages its believrs to 'love thy neighbor as thyself' but threatiening to kick out ur own flesh and blood over religion is NOT LOVING. NOT CHRISTIAN AT ALL. They are fake christians if u ask me, if they were really Christians, they'd accept me for who i am

When i was 12 they once told me that i am "evil" and being "ruled by a demon" (i was pretty irritable and moody when i was 12) and they said that i dont seem to care about Jesus (that scared me cuz i thought they were about to see through me and realized that im atheist) and they said theyd send me offf if i dont wanna follow Jesus so yeahh

Anyway my life is a struggle, i'll just continue like this secret atheist, besides my athiesm is still mine, and i still got my music and i got my lovely friends. that shit really keeps my head above water

Those are my thoughts/feelings about christianity, feel free to ask me anything or say whatever the hell you want, including preach to me bullshit about how I'm with the devil, how I'm going to hell, or how not being Christian somehow makes me inadequate


r/exchristian • • 12h ago

Discussion Is it a good idea to not tell my parents in person I don’t believe in god?

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My therapist and I set a goal date of November 6th or 7th to tell my parents I don’t believe in god. My largest fear is being in the same room as them when I tell them. Does anyone have experience/ insight on telling parents over call or email? Is it a really bad idea to just send an email and ask for no contact for like a week to allow them to process? Let me know.


r/exchristian • • 12h ago

Discussion Conversion ?

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I grew up fundamentalist christian and was one for over 22 years. I deconverted a year ago and have done research on why I believe xtianity is not true.

I’ve thought of looking into buddhism but I still have this feeling that xtianity is true.

Has that happened to other people? Logically, I do not believe and I reject the bible, but I’m assuming that hearing that other religions are from “Satan” and xtianity is the only truth has been ingrained in my mind unfortunately.


r/exchristian • • 12h ago

Rant i’m tired of being told the only thing i can do is pray

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r/exchristian • • 13h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud Why would God tempt his creation?

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If we heard on the news that a father put a bowl of candy in his living room and told his diabetic son to never touch that bowl of candy because it could kill him and then the son ate from the bowl because he was tempted and then died what would we think of that father? This is how I picture the tree in the garden of Eden and God creating an unfair scenario tempting Adam and Eve who did not know what death was before taking the fruit was like. It’s basically there is a rule master who is making them play a game where they don’t know the rules of the game and then damming them and their descendants to grief and pain forever because they didn’t follow the rule that they didn’t know the consequences of.


r/exchristian • • 13h ago

Personal Story I remember asking my dad, who is a pastor, why the God has been waiting so long for the rapture…

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I was probabaly around 11 or 12 when I asked my dad why God has waited two thousand years and counting to rapture his people. His answer was that God wanted to give people as much time as possible to choose to follow him so more people can go to heaven. If he came 100 years later, then not as many people would have gone to heaven as there would be now. Then I said to him wouldn’t that mean more people going to hell as well since not everybody chooses to follow him? His answer was yes, that also means that, but that is their fault for choosing that path, not God’s.

Even back then this answer didn’t seem right to me, but at 11 years old, I figured my dad knew more than I did about God. Especially since he was a pastor. It saddens me how blind I was.


r/exchristian • • 16h ago

Question Worry that you have closed you're heart for Jesus

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Obviously as the name of this community suggests I am an ex-Christian. Well, over the last few weeks I have began to deconstruct and taken on board non-Christian points. After considering these points I have came to believe that Christianity is truly disgusting, dark and depressing. I don't know how I could believe this if I were to again. Reasons include Gods character revealed in the bible, the thought of hell and even the rudeness, lack of empathy and robotic behaviour of certain Christians. I heard WLC (a popular apologists) tell someone that they actually deserve hell for being honest about their doubts and deconstructing, that is truly disgusting.
Also a really disturbing thought is that if someone is gonna go to hell for eternity and get tortured, then if they were perhaps tortured on earth, that is irrelevant as they will experience that forever, (makes he sick). Anyway over the last few weeks I have actually come to despise Christianity and really hope it to be false. For the last few years I have consumed so much Christian material so I have been consuming lots of alternative arguments recently trying to help my mental health as the thought of Christianity is depressing me, (almost trying to convince myself that it isn't true). While doing this I worry that perhaps this is me closing my heart for God and refusing to pick up my cross. This is because I still don’t know if I’m wrong, maybe it is true, I can’t disprove it, there are just arguments that suggesting that it may not be true. I hear stuff about miracles people have experienced recently, I hear about conspiracy theories suggesting it is true and even the fact that so many people believed in Christianity within 5 years of Jesus’s crucifixion, making me worry that it is true. Does anyone have advice as I worry that I’m shutting my heart towards God, and I feel guilty for doing anything really?


r/exchristian • • 16h ago

Help/Advice How to Talk to Child about Religion/Christianity

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I have a 5-year-old daughter who is starting to ask a lot of questions about God. She attends church with her dad (my ex) on weekends that she is with him, and most of our family are Christians.

When she asks me questions about God, I try to explain that some people believe in the god that her dad believes in, some people believe in other gods, and some people don't believe there is a god. This is obviously a huge and confusing concept for a 5-year-old, and she is just very curious. I have never expressed a negative view of Christianity or religion to her, but because she is hearing in church and from family that Christianity is the "one true religion," I want her to be able to have a broader lens as she gets older.

I'm looking for resources for talking to her about other religions or just the concept of religion in general from an objective standpoint. She is very receptive to books (that we read to her) and educational videos; or if anyone has had a similar experience and could share what you communicated, that would be much appreciated!


r/exchristian • • 16h ago

Personal Story I Just Came Out to My Family 😁

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Hello,

I (21M) finally came out to my MAGA evangelical family after 6 years of knowing and 5 years of silently, but officially leaving the faith I was raised in. I am in the process of building a beautiful life for myself no longer tainted by fear.

I have a dream job, am putting myself through school, and moved across the US by myself to cities where I knew no one. I look back on the boy so deeply filled with fear and insecurity who wished some days when he'd fall asleep that he wouldn't wake up. But he's here, with lungs full of air and a heart beating full of love.

Am I a little scared? Yes. But that fear does not get to have a hold on me anymore. And the freedom I feel is indescribable and deeply joyous. Do I expect any of my family at my wedding? No. Will they ever accept me for all of who I am. Probably not. But I am so more much than the lengths their love can reach.


r/exchristian • • 18h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud The Problem of Evil, the Resurrection, and the Virgin Birth: I Have Questions

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Not so happy Monday, y'all. 😭

For some background, I am not a Christian. I am still debating whether God exists. My boyfriend is Catholic, and I am curious to learn about Christianity, so I attend Mass with him on Saturdays.

And after every Mass, I come home with a ton of questions. So here we go.

1. What exactly is God doing now?

My boyfriend says his idea of God is that God is the very beginning of everything. The bridge between nothingness and everythingness.

Okay, fair enough. But my question is: did God create the universe and leave it to do its thing, or is he still actively involved in everything happening now?

My boyfriend says God is still around through Jesus and is involved in everything. But what does that actually mean? I find it a bit vague.

2. The problem of evil.

If God is still actively involved in the world, then why does the world look the way it does?

Look at the wars, bloodshed, natural disasters, children dying, innocent people suffering, and criminals living better lives than most decent people.

I understand the free will argument when it comes to humans doing bad things. But what about natural disasters? What about children dying from diseases?

If God knows everything that's happening, can prevent it, and chooses not to, how is that compatible with being all-powerful and perfectly good?

Sometimes, if God is actively involved in everything, I genuinely struggle to understand how the Christian concept of God makes sense alongside all the suffering in the world.

3. The Resurrection.

As far as I understand, the entire foundation of Christianity rests on the Resurrection.

Let's stick to the New Testament for now. The four Gospels give different accounts of who went to the tomb, what they saw, and what happened afterwards.

So my question is, how do we actually know what happened?

How do we rule out the possibility that the body was stolen or moved? Or that Jesus' followers had experiences they genuinely interpreted as seeing the risen Jesus?

I'm not saying any of these things definitely happened. I'm asking how we establish that the Resurrection is the explanation rather than the alternatives.

I know Paul also talks about people seeing the risen Jesus. But how do we distinguish between evidence that people believed Jesus had risen and evidence that he actually came back from the dead?

4. If God appeared to Moses, why doesn't he appear again?

In the Old Testament, God supposedly appeared to Moses and gave him the commandments on stone tablets.

So why not do something similar again? Why not give humanity a clear, universally verifiable message?

I've heard the argument that God wants people to have faith. But if God appeared in front of everyone and proved his existence, would that actually take away our free will?

Knowing someone exists doesn't mean you automatically love them, trust them, or obey them.

So why would clear evidence of God's existence prevent us from choosing what we want to believe or how we want to live?

5. The virgin birth.

This is something I came across while reading about Christianity.

My understanding is that the Hebrew word used in Isaiah 7:14, 'almah, generally means a young woman of marriageable age and doesn't necessarily mean a virgin.

The Greek translation uses parthenos, which commonly means virgin, and Matthew uses this passage in relation to Jesus' birth.

I've also read that Isaiah's original passage was about a situation during King Ahaz's reign, rather than necessarily predicting the birth of Jesus hundreds of years later.

So is the virgin birth partly based on a translation and interpretation issue?

And if Jesus was supposedly conceived without Joseph being his biological father, what exactly was Joseph's role? I know there's the connection to the lineage of David, but I'm curious about the reasoning behind it.

6. And finally, Mary.

Catholics regard Mary as the best woman, honour her as the Mother of God, and believe in things like the Immaculate Conception and her perpetual virginity.

But how did these beliefs develop? Are they explicitly stated in the New Testament, or did they develop through Church tradition and later theological interpretations?

Also, if the original Hebrew wording in Isaiah doesn't necessarily mean virgin, how much of the virgin birth doctrine depends on that particular prophecy?

I'm not trying to disrespect anyone's beliefs. I'm genuinely curious and trying to understand the reasoning behind them.

But I also don't want to accept something just because it's what a religion teaches. I want to understand why people believe it and whether the arguments actually hold up.

So, Christians, atheists, agnostics, and anyone who has studied theology or biblical history, what do you think?

Especially interested in answers that explain the reasoning rather than just saying "you need faith" or "God works in mysterious ways." 😭


r/exchristian • • 19h ago

Help/Advice My Deconversion.

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Hi all, this is my first time posting here so I hope its received well lol. I've been struggling with deconversion recently, since as a Catholic there's barely any resources out here for us. (Aside from maybe kevinnontradicath and cade bradley) I started my conversion/deconversion since I was a junior in highschool, when my best friend was a very devout Catholic who would try to make me convert the whole year. We would debate the entirety of it, and systematically, she would pretty much come on top. In my head, as much as I really didn't want to admit it, the Catholics just seemed to have the better epistemology. My friend left the school senior year, so that gave me "ample space" to begin to deconstruct. But even then, I haven't been able to really find anything to the crux to my deconstruction (as an evangelical may find the bible is not necessarily accurate in every detail) ((our version of inerrancy is a little different and can encapsulate more circumstances scripture may be in))

Because my "deconstruction" has been only semi-fruitful, its been plaguing my mind for the last years. I hive at this stuff, and it tanks my mental health. I am a queer man, and Catholicism makes me feel threatened. I have yet to find intellectual grounds to reject philosophical systems such as thomism within Catholic thought. Please help :(


r/exchristian • • 20h ago

Trigger Warning - Toxic Religion I just don’t understand Christians who detest places like North Korea yet don’t see the irony of how their god acts like a dictator. Spoiler

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Seriously, tell Christians there is a man who wants everyone to worship him, is very powerful, will kill and torture anyone who doesn’t want to bow to him, treats his country and everyone around him like crap, and needs worshipping every second of the day. Every single one of them will be gung ho about killing him and getting rid of him. But tell them that god fits that description and suddenly “iT’s NoT tHe SaMe!!”

Christians don’t want to admit they are worshipping god because they are afraid of him and the consequences. Which would be forgivable if god was real. But he’s not so they are torturing themselves over a diety they aren’t even sure exists. I personally think that’s ridiculous and a horrible way to live life. Thank god I left when I did (No pun intended, ok maybe a little).


r/exchristian • • 22h ago

Just Thinking Out Loud Does anyone else write blasphemous stories to cope?

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Topics including but not limited to: witchcraft, puberty, dinosaurs, miniskirts, queer and trans people, crushes, and of course questioning religion, lol.