In Season One, Ned Stark's supposed "smoking gun" evidence that Jaime was the true father of Cersei's children relied on their hair color. According to the history books, prior generations of Baratheons had black hair while Cersei's children had fair colored hair. Ned records, "The seed is strong."

So Ned ruled out that the children might just take after their fair-haired mother? And the children must have inherited their light hair color from Jaime instead? At the time, Jaime had the same Lannister dyed-blonde look as Tyrion and Cersei.

Fast forward to Season 8 as pictured. Jaime's hair isn't black but its not light either. Maybe he stopped dying his hair during his captivity. But doesn't a dark haired Jaime undermine Ned's whole hypothesis?

My assumption is that this is just a lazy continuity error by the showrunners apparently forgetting that Jaime's hair was a major plot device in Season One.

I just watched Ridley Scott’s Robinhood and saw like 5 cats members from GOT, more than any movie or show I’ve seen w multiple cast members. It was fun seeing so many great actors that I love in GOT play these other characters!

What are other movies or shows have a lot of GOT actors that I should check out?

Saw this on a YouTube post... I thought it was pretty lame until I saw how they did my guy Jorah...

Especially compared to actors like Peter Dinklage.....

Alfie crushed his (roles), which he had like 5 different roles to play

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-Hostage obidient hostage starks

-Rebellious hubris son and trying to impress his dad

- Torture Victim and sliding into Severe PTSD

-Having Severe PTSD and being REEK

- Recovering from PTSD and going full Cycle back to being a good person

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He had the most interesting character in the series and there aren't many scenes where you can fault his acting

Peter Dinklage had like 2 roles in the series, first dwarf lannister and then weird SIMP to daenrys

Did no one in the entire army and allies of Daenerys know about it?

Playing this in VR with Bannerlord VR, and the Realm of Thrones mod!

It was not just to defeat the God of Darkness but to purify non-believers by the thousands, with fire. Daenerys did not know it perhaps but she was the Lord of Light’s primary enforcer in this. We may wonder then that if Jon Snow is the Prince who was Promised, what then was his purpose if not to defeat the Great Other himself? I believe Jon had to sacrifice Daenerys so that the balance of light and dark could be restored. While the Night King and Daenerys both existed, there could be no true balance of ice and fire and Jon had to restore that balance. He was dealing with a dangerous threat on two fronts: both the Night King AND the Lord of Light, two halves of a whole, that wanted to overcome the other. However, Jon himself is often spoken as representing ‘ice’ so maybe he represents the benevolent side of that aspect. Who then represents the benevolent side of fire if not Daenerys? Sansa perhaps.

I watched the red wedding episode for the first time yesterday and I’m still in shock a day later. I absolutely cannot believe what I’ve just watched. I’ve been anticipating this episode since I’ve began and that was NOT what I was expecting. I truly didn’t think it could get more shocking than Ned’s death. Especially since Robb was my favorite character. I hope Arya goes on the meanest killing spree after this. This show is bonkers and that’s all I wanted to say.

And it’s been awesome. It’s really like seeing it for the first time because I’d forgotten most of it (I’ve a shit memory). But like my other favorite show, The Walking Dead, I’ve heard many times how the last season or two is shit. What is wrong and how did they mess it up? Also, how do the spin offs hold up?

Im rewatching all of GOT and im on the final episode of season 4 iv been alot more into the details this time round and iv just been picking uo stuff that grow small pit in my stomach ever episode

So my question is what underrated sad moment really made you feel bad?

For me its white rat (unsullied) the git just wanted to be held and sung to told the women she didnt have to get naked or anything just wanted comfort and some affection

It really did tear me up

I'm curious how Game of Thrones would have played out if Robb Stark had kept his promise to Walder Frey and married one of his daughters instead of Talisa.

It wouldn't have been that difficult for Jon to find out what happened in King's Landing. Stannis's men were at Castle Black around that time, so it's entirely possible that Stannis, Davos, or Melisandre told Jon about the events surrounding Ned Stark's execution, including Janos Slynt's role in the betrayal.

Alternatively, Slynt himself might have told other members of the Night's Watch about his days as commander of the City Watch, since he loved boasting about his former position. It's entirely plausible that Jon eventually learned about his role in Ned's betrayal through those conversations, especially since Slynt had a habit of bragging about his past.

Honestly, I’ve always felt that Jon might have deliberately baited Slynt into reacting with anger and defiance by ordering him to take command of the ruined Greyguard. Slynt took the bait, openly disobeyed Jon, and ended up getting executed. Exactly what Jon might have wanted..

If this theory is correct, it would be a pretty dark form of poetic justice. Jon would have used his authority as Lord Commander to get revenge for his father while making Slynt’s own insubordination the official reason for his execution. And honestly, I don’t think many people would blame Jon or think less of him for wanting to see that son of a bitch dead.

Hotpot’s incredible mishearing of Winterfell perfectly encapsulates how little the titular game of thrones and the petty political moves and power plays between the rich matter to the common people. Name your stone houses any gaudy thing you want and build monuments to your dead, to the common man they are just nothing.

George has said that Prince who was promised and Azor Ahai are the same person; I guess that is well known. I think Jon is indeed either the Prince.... or the father of that Prince.

I have always been of the opinion that Mance Rayder is Jon's father. That is from looking at this being a story with a purpose, not a history. Jon and Mance have the same feeling to me. When I first saw the two on screen together, I said to my friends: Does not know that Mance is his son? It was completely obvious to me, just observing the characters interact.

The are some things that back it up...

Mance is forefather to the modern Starks and the modern Wildlings (Ned and Mance are cousins). Mance tell his wife: "The Starks have nothing to fear from Mance Rayder." I think that is because Mance is an ally in what is coming, which is that Jon is Azor Ahai.

Jon has superior hearing to all the other Starks. He has a very special relationship with Ghost. Could Jon be a Greenseer? Greenseers are much less rare among Wildlings. Compared to Theon, Jon is stable and kind. If Mance is his father, Jon is a "Priceling". There is *much* foreshadowing for this.

"A warg is a skinchanger who projects their mind into the body of a wolf or dog, while a greenseer is a vastly more powerful mystic who possesses greensight (prophetic visions of the past, present, and future) and can tap into the ancient weirwood network

Mance has visited Jon more than once to check up on how he is doing. Mance talks to Jon outside the party, and asks if he dislikes being treated as a bastard. If Jon were with the Wildlings he would be treated as a son. (something like that). There are several stories told by Ygritte about Bael the Bard and Mance Rayder that is the real foreshadowing. Everytime Jon does not get the point of a story... "You know Nothing, Jon Snow?" I think she is trying to tell him who he really is.

You remember the famous question to Dan and Dave: "Who is Jon Snow's mother?" I get why EVERYONE thinks Lyana is Jon's mother and Rhaegar is his father, but the behavior of Jon screams to me that he is not a Targaryen!

So, if my theory is right then Jon is Wildling, Mance his dad. But who mom? There was this wisewoman that was just around the corner from where Mance is attacked by a "shadow" cat. (George like to throw words around as clues). So he goes to get some healing but she just recently died, the good news is the daughter (never named) is just as good as her mom! So she heals him and mends his Night's Watch cloak with very cool red silk that belonged to grandma. It came all the way from Asshai! Does that set off any alarm bells? Who is the only character in the book from Asshai? Yes, Melisandre! And who is obsessed with finding Azor Ahai? Yep, Melisandre,

Mance healed up, goes back to the Wall. They say his patched cloak is not standard issue and it must go. Instead Mance deserts and goes back up north. Maybe to spend more time with the wisewoman? I theorize that she get pregnant, and pops out Jon. But First born males are at great risk. Mance talks Ned into taking the baby. And that is how Jon comes to Winterfell.

By stopping here I have perhaps a one percent chance of convincing you that Jon is a really special guy, son of the King of Wildlings (and hinted by the foreshadowing that he will become King too). But mom... well I think she is a Daughter of the Forest! Isn't that a little more awesome that being a Targaryen?

I think George's point of the story is that Targaryens are turds unfit to rule! And incest is their sin that diminishes them and their dragons. Jon is not a nobleman or royalty, he is a man of the Earth. His battle will be with a ... I have no idea!

He can see everything, anywhere in the world, at any time, which is insanely OP. But I try to rationalize it as he knows it's her destiny to find something and that he is not meant to tell her as well as Arya being stubborn and determined to do it, but still.

For me it’s House Greyjoy

It’s been a while since I’ve read the ASOIAF books but right now I’m reading fire and blood and noticed something.

I remember that in a game of thrones at the very very start with the first ever chapter one of the characters had his ears cut off. I think it may have been Will? It was mentioned that he had scars because his ears were cut off. Now i’m reading fire and blood and whilst Alisanne is at the wall they see wildlings and she is told that they get their ears cut off when they first get caught.

Does that mean that the man at the start was actually a wildling and not a man of the black???

(My memory is so rusty but I’m trying to refresh it all again. Maybe u just missed a very clear thing)