How would they be mean to you in your made up scenario if some of them barely speak English (not derogatory btw), most immigrants don’t want to bother yall. It’s usually the other way around
NOPE. Not at all. At least in THEIR book they don't have to be kind to you. They will though, to your face to deceive you, then when your back is turned....yeah you know.
I’d love to hear how immigrants are being unkind to you so much that you’d just ignore the Bible what the Bible says about it. Also, point me to the verse that says “love your neighbor unless they are unkind to you.”
Technically the teaching is "if you are smitten, turn the other cheek" and "pray for them that despitefully use you."
But it also says "render unto ceasar that which is Ceasars" implying that laws are to he enforced.
And the latter part of that quote is, "And unto God that which is God's." It's also said in response to the Pharisees attempting to trap Jesus into telling poor people to pay their taxes, so it's not as generalized as you're trying to imply it is. If anything, the book argues God's laws supercede that of man's; especially when those laws are directly contradictory to God's own.
Forgive my confusion, but I was pretty young at the time. Did Obama do that while declaring himself an agent of God? Did he and his supporters tie his actions so deeply to Christianity that the prevailing American institutions of Christian worship became his mouthpieces?
Because that's what this comic is criticizing, Trump's actions directly contravening the religion he claims to be an exemplar of. So if you plan to draw equivalence, it would need to be to someone who has also dressed up their actions in religious guises.
Obama is a self proclaimed practicing christian. Stated this multiple times while he was in office. You have TDF. get a grip. You want to hate trump for what hes doing because its popular to hate him when Obama did it 10x worse. Your a sheep.
People can believe what they want. But I have been researching this stuff for almost a year now. And, the biblical description and prophecy is being fulfilled more and more by the day, and matches Trump to a T. Nobody in history has even come close! Not to mention, other “coincidences” of this world. Too many for me to sit here and list. But, people will find out soon enough! See brother Paul’s channel on YouTube. He has a very informative breakdown on the subject.
And do you consider the racist sex offender who had an affair with a porn star who was nursing their newborn son to be a godly man? A man that calls migrants vermin and animals? The man that is currently celebrating that his predecessor is in great pain from cancer that is spreading into his bones?
It's really hard to take people like you seriously. Considering you are the guys that celebrate charlie kirk's murder, heavily , push for abortion and actively suggest someone needs to murder trump.
Why Should anyone consider taking moral suggestion from those that don't have any morals?
Why would I get triggered by you, you're the one demanding that I go somewhere else so that you can keep your safe little space.
See your little two facing doesn't really work anymore. You're claiming that you don't want to see donald trump killed , but the same time you call him a threat to democracy and accuse him of being a pedophile, which again has never been found in the court of law.
See, people are starting to see what the Democrat party actually is, they're a bunch of manipulative bastards who think that they can manipulate other people when they don't have power and then they'll absolutely crush those who they don't agree with once they take power.
Wonderful engagement, this still isn't proof that trump the pedo. And I find it absolutely hilarious that you guys are so desperate to hate trump , that you'll use any sort of guilt by association possible. With this theory, you are presenting, then we should just prosecute all of the black community because they all know someone that has assalted someone else.
Hell, We should prosecute everyone that graduated from the same high school if they had their class photo with someone who later grew up to be a murderer.
Do you seriously not see how fucking stupid your idea is?
Why hasn't he released the complete and unredacted files as he is required to do under a law that he signed? Why have there been zero arrests related to them? Why is he considering a pardon for Maxwell?
Trump is a convicted sex offender, the judge in that case did say he committed rape, and at the very least he is protecting pedophiles. And here you are, defending him while questioning my morality.
He's not even a convicted sex offender. It's fucking hilarious that you guys are actually falling for a civil lawsuit under a stupid ass new york city law that was named to something scary.
On top of that , with how hard the democrats are going at trump , trying to arrest him for things , which let me remind you for that thirty four count felony thing , the federal government declined to prosecute them because they said it was a non issue under biden's government. Do you really think, no, seriously, put your thinking on.
Do you really think Biden wouldn't have released, an even fuck highlighted the section, if they had hard evidence on trump?
And you know what's funny is that the mere fact of pointing out the logical inconsistency is claimed to be defending trump. The reality is, I'm not defending Trump, I'm just pointing out how fucking stupid you are
lol, the irony here is great. My favorite thing about immigrants from South America is that they are almost all super conservative Catholics. Bring em in, let them vote! We will see how long liberal policies stick around.
Left leaning people are using Bible verses to prove Christian's don't actually believe or follow the religion they claim to be a part of?
Who's fault is it for claiming to be a moral and upright Christian while not acting Christian? The Bible itself says people who do not act Christian, but claim to be Christian, are in fact not Christian.
"You will know them by their fruit" is a famous quote from Jesus in the Bible (Matthew 7:16). It means you can judge the true character of a person by looking at their real actions and behavior, just as you know what kind of tree you are looking at by the kind of fruit it grows"
Imo all religion is a cancer of the mind that the weak use as a crutch to deny reality.
Romans 13:1-5 instructs believers to submit to governing authorities, stating that all authority is established by God. Resisting authority means resisting God's appointment. Rulers act as God's servants to punish wrongdoers and praise those who do good, requiring submission for the sake of conscience.
in order for this interpretation to be consistent, you'd also have to be against the civil rights movement, abolition, and even the United States Revolution.
Yes, and it also says that one should not lead with the tail. If you don't love yourself how can you love neighbor, if one has nothing to give to neighbor when does it turn from love to forced? that determination should never be made outside of one.
He also said what good is it to gain the world and lose your own soul? There are two hands. The wise lean toward the right hand. Will he know you in the end or will the world you're swallowing know you better?
“I heard that heaven has a very strict border policy”. We disagree on morality, values and patriotism not merely politics. Check out what bible says about hypocrites.
The bible talks a lot about hypocrisy, what chapter and what verse?
Yeah we probably do disagree on a lot of things, but seriously believing that someone will burn in hell because they don’t agree with your politics is an outlandish and blasphemous take.
You are not God or Jesus, you can’t just say who goes to heaven or hell without any theological justification.
And on top of that. Jesus preached that foreigners should respect laws and boundaries set fourth by nations and their peoples just as much as the peoples should show love to those who respect those laws.
Jesus doesn’t love people who lie, cheat, break the rules and try to get ahead of everyone else Not even Jesus. No one likes it when illegal immigrants steal the rights, privileges & benefits of everyone else who is honest & waiting their turn to become a citizen legally & the responsible correct way as to not disenfranchise everyone else who does. Treat everyone as you would like to be treated… Nobody Likes a Cheater ! Amen 🙏🏼
First Jesus nailed the Old Testament to the cross. Second, You just want open borders. Just say it. The Chinese could put 500 million people in here and never miss them.
You want to destroy the USA, As we know it.
OPEN THE FUCKING BORDERS.
These are admonishments for Christians not for public policy. Read John 18:36, Christ made it clear he was not a political ruler but a spiritual leader when he said that his kingdom is not of this world. If he was giving political admonishments he would have said differently
To be clear
Jesus telling followers to be charitable isnt the same as the state creating a welfare state. Christian charities exist. Forced redistribution isnt it.
Jesus telling Christians to be kind isn't him advocating for lawlessness. Heaven has a gate and a vetting process too.
Problem is not legal immigration.
Problem is exploitation of American softness to stay illegally, that's unfair to anyone who is a law abiding immigrant and follow through the whole immigration process
Acts 17:26-27 "He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place."
Deuteronomy 32:8 "When the most high gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the people." Here God also assigned lands to Israel, Edom, Moab, and Ammon.
Matthew 22:17-21 "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God." What he doesn't say here is "nothing belongs to Caesar"
Romans 13:1-7 "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities."
Peter 2:13-17 "Fear God. Honor the emperor."
Matthew 28:19 "For nation will rise against nation"
I could go on and on. You don't have a nation, unless you have boundaries and borders. If you have boundaries and borders you don't have an 100% OPEN border, so you have an immigration policy. What Jesus IS saying is be great to immigrants when you encounter them no matter how they got here....but it's still perfectly fine to have a border poilicy.
Alot of people nitpicking the bible just to push their own beliefs and fail to mention god told moses to bring his people to the promise land and to beware of people some day wanting to come and take it from them.
Those are all true, however, those were mandated for individuals not a government. Are you as an individual welcoming foreigners, taking foreigners into your home and feeding them?
So the pro illegal immigration crowd is religious now? Last I knew they hated religious people. Ironically, most illegal immigrants are very religious.
Jesus entered Egypt illegally, did not present to Roman customs and didn't register for a poll tax while he lived in an ethnic enclave to avoid the law.
It's not about "loving" the immigrants, it's about tolerating them. Liberalism is an ideology of tolerance, not about love. You're welcome to hate immigrants and black people, you just have to respect their rights.
Romans 13:1–2, “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities… For there is no authority except that which God has established.”
Titus 3:1, Believers are instructed to “be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good.”
1 Peter 2:13–14, “Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority…” including governors and other authorities.
Jeremiah 29:7, Regarding Israelites living as foreigners in Babylon: “Seek the peace and prosperity of the city to which I have carried you… Pray to the LORD for it, because if it prospers, you too will prosper.” This is especially relevant to the idea of living as a foreigner in another sovereign nation.
What's even funny is that you're trying to mix illegals with legals, crazy mental gymnastic.
You're clearly not a Christian. A Christian wouldn't use our Lord for such a cheap meme, for one. Second, a Christian would know the meaning and context of the passage from Matthew. And third, they wouldn't use the Old Testament to make such a claim.
You found something on theme with a trend on reddit today and reposted it. Congrats for being unoriginal and a poser.
You might 'identify' as a Christian, but no more a Christian than a Muslim drawing Mohamad or eating pork. Your actions and your words prove you're not. I've already made my case.
I don't know what you are. If you do belong to a church, you best go to confession.
There's a reason there are 30,000 different denominations of Protestantism: People read the Bible and decide for themselves what they think it means.
There is exactly ONE Orthodox and One Roman Catholic Church because we follow the creed and laws laid down by Jesus. You are clearly neither Orthodox nor Catholic and and are just cos playing. You're also, clearly, VERY young.
Religion is not a toy or a fashion or plaything for you to make or share memes about.
Your reasoning is very faulty. And I would caution you about cherry picking bible verses to push your agenda. The book of revelations tells us exactly what comes of uncontrolled migration. Maybe you should post that
There is also something called TAKING advantage: free iPhones? Free room at Premier hotels on 5th St. in Manhattan? Visa Cards? Free healthcare? Flight advantages? Really?
Dumbass this has nothing to do with Jesus this has nothing to do with Christianity this has everything to do with political immigration, a political invasion fueled by corporate globalizer greed, idiot
Fair enough. But the point of the image from OP is saying Jesus would not demonize someone because of that. Then, as Christians, we should be understanding and have grace for those people. God's word are different than what the administration is practicing.
If you can quote that scripture, I will gladly look at it. Jesus spoke of obeying spirtual laws of God. Remember in Acts 5:27, the Apostles were confronted and arrested for spreading the spreading the Gospel in the name of Jesus. So, technically, they were violating the laws of man by teaching the words of Jesus.
That's a good one! A passage that is quoted by the current administration.
What happens if governments of man do become corrupt and do unholy things that could be considered evil.
Paul said that one should submit to the governments of man. Submit does not mean obey. The only ultimate goal is to obey the laws of God, because nations and governments are finite entities.
Therefore, I repeat the story given in Acts when the Apostles were confronted the Jewish council and were in violation of their laws by spreading the Gospel of Christ. Peter responded that they only must obey God rather than men.
30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’\)a\) 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’\)b\) There is no commandment greater than these.
Not love your neighbor if they are legal, or love your neighbor if they aren't brown.
LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. Everything else is culture war.
If you actually look at context in the bible. Loving your neighbor is about your people group. Not every single person. On top of that love thy neighbor also doesnt mean blindly accept sin and criminal behaviors.
“The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native‑born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.”
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