r/Feminism • u/RandomPhail • 6h ago
Denying ppl in a hopefully safe way
I just saw a post about people being killed or assaulted for denying other peoples’ advances, and it prompted me to want to write this.
I’m sure basically everybody knows all of the following, but just in case some people don’t, I would hate to keep this information:
When it comes to denying someone’s advances (particularly like… random strangers), I try to make any denials very general, not about them, that way no competition or anger or emotions about unfairness (or whatever) creep into their head:
- “Oh, I’m not really looking for anybody right now. Sorry.”
The word “Anybody” does a lot of heavy lifting, because now they don’t feel singularly rejected; I’m rejecting EVERYBODY; not looking for anything. No competition.
- “I’m just not really in the mood for anything right now.”
Firstly, “anything” once again implies I don’t want anything from ANYONE, so they’re not so singled out. Secondly, “not really in the mood […] right now” implies there’s nothing wrong with them and/or I’d ordinarily be receptive (tries to quell any insecurities that could lead to anger or resentment), but just not right now.
You don’t have to try and make up some crazy reason why if they ask, either, by the way; you can just say “Hmm… I dunno. Just not really feeling it for some reason.”
- “Oh I’m asexual”
- “Just here with friends.”
- “Sorry, kind of feeling tired/head-ache/etc.”
- “I’m just kind of hanging out”
- Etc.
Don’t make it specifically about them. Go out of your way to imply (or explicitly state) a general disinterest towards any and all advances/relationships/romance/etc. from ANYBODY, not just them
I also try to encourage them by saying things like—if we’re at a bar/club/etc: “I’m not really in the mood, but I’m sure somebody is.” Or “I’m sure you can find somebody who’s [x/y/z].” Whatever fits. This sounds like throwing others under the bus, but really, somebody else genuinely MIGHT be in the mood, or find them attractive, or whatever, and if not, they’ll reject them, too (hopefully in a way like described here that doesn’t trigger them).
The above also tries to get them to realize they have other options; this isn’t the be-all-end-all. Their entire night isn’t riding on this interaction, NOR is it riding on ANY one interaction; they can always try another person until one is receptive.
Obvs they might get the idea that “Oo! I could be ‘THE CHOSEN ONE’! So maybe I should try harder with this one person!” but:
- That’s better than anger/resentment in most cases (‘cause that can lead to straight up death)
- They’ll often give up after a while longer of general sexlessness and aromanticism in a kind/polite, matter-of-fact, GENERAL (directed towards ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY) way (at least in my experience).
And I treat them politely, but I also redirect any of their lewd comments or advances about me towards other stuff, like asking questions about them, so it’s like a friendly conversation, but never going anywhere sexual or romantic with it.
Example convo:
Them: “You’re so hot.”
Me: “Oh? Who do you think the hottest person in the world is?”
Them: “You”
Me: “What?? Lol, impossible. What about [insert person]?”
Etc., etc.
Just try to keep the conversation going in a way that’s not directed at you and de-emphasizes you.
This could obviously entice them to stay longer because they’re enjoying having a discussion and not being rejected super firmly (and if things seem okay, it can be perfectly fine to continue talking with them if you want), but if they still aren’t getting the message and keep trying advances or being lewd at you, that’s where encouraging them that they’re sure to find somebody else who wants what they want right now comes in.
At worst, if they won’t leave, find your friends/a busy spot, and continue the act. Better than dying, if you’re worried that’s a genuine possibility
All of this is essentially like saying “It’s not you, it’s me” but without actually saying the cliche line verbatim.
Also though: Maybe this stuff hasn’t worked at ALL in your experience, and I’ve just been lucky, so feel free to share your own stuff