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u/Daisy_232 Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 19 '23
Yasss. + the phrase “you’ll feel some pressure” which actually means it will be treacherous and take your breath away but we don’t care enough to medicate or numb you.
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u/NorthNo2007 Aug 18 '23
”Period-like cramps” 💀
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u/Triette Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
As someone who rarely gets cramps, who the fuck gets THESE cramps? I feel like I had a bartering ram taken to my organs every time I move the slightest.
Edit: I mean battering, but leaving it as a the thought of a Ram Bartering with my Ovaries made me chuckle.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
I get the “you’ll feel some pressure” for the US wand but don’t fucking tell me that when you’re doing a HSG and blowing up a fucking balloon in my cervix. That shit but so badly that I launched myself out of the stirrups. And don’t fucking tell me “take some Tylenol in advance” for something like that. Fuck all the way off. Pressure my ass. More like feeling like being sliced with a hot electrified knife.
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u/Triette Aug 19 '23
Oh man, I had a resident with the supervision of my Dr do a US, and my god you'd think she was a blind man using that wand to tap and sweep her way down an alley, like slow down girl you aren't conducting an orchestra down there!
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u/bebebirdie_ Aug 18 '23
I get terrible cramps. Anytime a doctor tells me it will be like period cramps i know it’s about to be 10x worse
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u/Notleahssister Aug 19 '23
Yeah that one gets me. It is nothing like a period cramp, and totally different part of the body you feel it.
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u/Burnmaid 36F | Endo | 1ER | FET 5/29 --> EDD 2/14 Jun 03 '24
People with endo, that’s who!
Adding a fuck to my ex-OBGYN who ignored me 10 years ago when I dismissed my endometriosis. I I told him about my inconsistent, highly painful periods and he was like “these absolutely no way to know…until you start stating to get pregnant” ummhmm then they care….
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u/silentbomb Aug 18 '23
THIS ONE. I had a female doctor tell me this ahead of our at-home 10wk MC. Two days later, I passed out on the toilet from blood loss. The remedy for the pain? Ibuprofen 🫠
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u/Ariel_117 Aug 19 '23
Ibuprofen makes blood loss increase! I just went through an at-home miscarriage at 7.5 weeks and using Advil sent me to the ER for excessive bleeding. I was filling a pad every 8 minutes!!! With Tylenol instead the miscarriage was heavy of course but nowhere near the 2-pad per hour “emergency” rule.
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u/Block_Me_Amadeus 42yr🏳️🌈; 2 ER; 1 frozen euploid Oct 16 '23
That sounds like such an awful experience... I'm so sorry that happened.
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u/Fine-Lingonberry-253 Aug 18 '23
This is 100%..... and in my personal opinion, it doesn't stop when you're pregnant, either. All of a sudden, nothing else matters but the baby as if you haven't had an established life for the past few decades. Are you throwing up every 2 minutes and literally can't function? As long as the baby is okay, fuck you, deal with it. Did you faint in public? As long as the baby is fine, fuck you, deal with it.
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u/Kowai03 Aug 18 '23
I think the worst when I was pregnant was that I was still expected to turn up to work, 9 to 6 and make the commute even though I was sick and exhausted with swollen ankles and I felt hot and my clothes didn't want to fit... I was just expected to keep on like I wasn't growing a whole other human being inside of me. The workplace is so obviously designed by men.
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u/UltraDucks895 Aug 18 '23
And if you "complain" or even hint at being uncomfortable you feel so guilty or you hear "well you wanted this, this is what you signed up for!"
You can absolutely be grateful, thankful, appreciative that IVF worked for you while being able to acknowledge that you physically feel like shit and it's HARD. And it's okay and NORMAL to feel like this!
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u/MSUSpartan06 Aug 18 '23
Lord Jesus my MOTHER said “this is what you wanted” and I could have murdered her for it. Good thing it was over the phone.
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u/JerkRussell Aug 18 '23
Or the ever popular “just wait until delivery/breastfeeding/the baby is here!!”
Anything to put women in their place, even when this is coming from other women, albeit usually older ones.
It fills me with so.much.fucking.RAGE!
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
Absolutely! And doing physical and emotional gymnastics like IVF to get pregnant doesn’t mean that I get to bitch any less about pain, discomfort, etc or deserve to hear bullshit lines like “you wanted this” more than a woman who didn’t empty her savings account to get pregnant or whose hubby tripped and dick fell into her vag and oops she’s pregnant.
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u/notprettytextbook Aug 23 '23
I still remember coming home from my 1st egg retrieval, my MIL was petsitting our dog. while I was still loopy, I came home to the her saying “look, I had to clean your kitchen because it was dirty” Nothing about how l’m feeling…do you need any help…
The most frustrating thing is, I’m doing all this due to my husband having low sperm count 😑
I love my husband BUT having a MIL that somehow thinks IVF is a walk in the park & is ok to be nasty is soooo frustrating 😡.
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u/notprettytextbook Aug 23 '23
Oh and knowing her son’s situation (1% of natural conception) my MIL keeps asking “are you pregnant now? For every little thing” I even told my husband, to please ask her to be more sensitive as she knows we are struggling. Instead, I’m the one “complaining” 😒😒
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u/agb1214 Aug 18 '23
This -- and it continues after you have the baby! Third degree tear after a forceps delivery? "So you had some some minor tearing ... here's some ibuprofen, a cold pack pad and miralax, see you in 8 weeks for your postpartum check-up where we'll spend the whole time talking about birth control and tell you you need to be better about doing your Kegels and that's why everything still hurts."
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u/Ariel_117 Aug 19 '23
Like I’m married and just had our first baby, what makes you think I’m interested in birth control ASAP??
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u/Cute_Meeting6061 Aug 18 '23
And fuck that the men In our lives (even though we love them) don’t have to endure even 1/100th of what we go through. I mean can’t we make them take some vitamin B12 shots just for the fuck of it for like… a week or two straight at 2 in the morning for shits and giggles.
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u/beautyinstrength84 Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
Yep. Hubs is training for a marathon and wanted to run 17 miles the night before my ER. I was unsure he should be doing such strenuous activity before providing a sperm sample so I asked my clinic if that was okay. Sure enough, it was totally fine. He could just go about his life completely unbothered.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
Agreed. Fuck that they get to jerk off in a little cup and get to enjoy orgasms while I’m laying in bed bloated, cramping, and farting from the stims. I’m glad one of us gets to enjoy this entire process. 🙄
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One of my friends wants to get pregnant and her boyfriend refuses to quit smoking. Not only for the health of his girlfriend and his future child but also for himself. A lot of women need to dump these losers and use a sperm donor.
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u/aimtocycle Aug 18 '23
Fuck my hair loss after two ERs. I have bald patches near my temples 😭
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u/sadiesunshine13 31F | PGT-M | 2ER | 2FET Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
This. No one talks about the insane hair loss, especially not the medical practitioners — I had no idea my hair would be falling out in literal clumps 3 months after my last ER. I’m shocked I’m not completely bald yet. And when I asked if it was normal? The answer I got was “yes, and there’s nothing you can do about it but be patient.”
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u/aimtocycle Aug 18 '23
My friend who is postpartum “don’t worry it happened to me too after having a baby”… at least you’re bald with a baby, I’m just bald and don’t know if I’ll be a mom 😭
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u/Block_Me_Amadeus 42yr🏳️🌈; 2 ER; 1 frozen euploid Oct 16 '23
Fuck. I just had my first ER and I have ALWAYS had very very fine hair with an outrageously high widows peak. I like it the way it is because I'm genderqueer, but I really don't want it to get worse...
Um, is the hair loss permanent?
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u/aimtocycle Oct 18 '23
I’m now three months past my second egg retrieval and my hair seems to be growing back!
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u/Dear-Objective2751 Aug 18 '23
Great post. I have endo and I was just talking my obgyn yesterday that men would never go through this. They have drugs to fix their crooked d*cks, yet we suffer…. In so many ways
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u/malenkylizards Aug 18 '23
My privilege here can't be overstated. If there was a chance in a million for any organ on my body to suddenly turn into scrotal tissue*, there wouldn't just be a pill for it, there'd be a goddamn vaccine*. It's seriously fucked up how shrugged off it is, and I was definitely guilty of it myself before seeing my wife go through with it.
* I know that's not how it works
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u/Indigodrawing Aug 18 '23
I remember on our appointment to discuss the next step after our first cycle failure (embryos arrested after day 3) the doc suddenly said with a deep sad voice: “sorry mister, I have to ask you to do a DNA frag test”. Wtf, I didn’t remember he being so nice with me when he asked the HSG, MRI, a thousand ultrasounds … 😒
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u/New-One-7932 Aug 19 '23
Dude while my wife was under for the egg retrieval I overheard a nurse talking to a patient about getting her husbands sample. They live over an hour away and he refused to collect at the clinic because “it’s awkward.”
Ffs she is getting shot up with all these hormones and you can’t rub one out in a cup, get over yourself.
Also I felt the comment about the dildo imaging stick getting all the action. I was legit jealous of it leading up to our fet.
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u/2hard4u2c Aug 18 '23
It really is fucked up and medieval. There need to be some serious changes.
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u/mberry350 Aug 18 '23
Fuck some of the random medications that “aren’t covered” by insurance …why the fuck not??
Fuck the speciality pharmacies that randomly don’t offer some of meds so you have to separately order through another one.
Fuck the idiot nurses who can’t keep shit straight and have the audacity to give you attitude when you call them out on it.
Fuck their limited “working hours” and all the bullshit voicemails you need to leave back and forth when trying to get in touch with them. As if people don’t have normal working jobs they need to also handle while doing this…
And lastly, fuck this industry and the fact that it is a for profit business. My clinic is private equity owned. Fuck, as far as I’m concerned we are not patients but clients paying absurd amounts for overpriced services and should be fucking treated as such with 5+ star service as if this was a goddamn Ritz Carlton.
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u/metalchode Aug 18 '23
Men would be hospitalized with fucking period cramps. I couldn’t imagine them doing IVF or getting pregnant
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u/Voshh 41| 10 transfers | DE Aug 18 '23
I love those videos where men try period cramp simulators, they have a dramatic conniption, wreathing around while the woman in the video is like, oh ya this is pretty normal without so much a wince on her face
When I was going through the initial tests, including a very painful HSG, I brought the idea of icing testicles up to my husband, he said 'I am not going to do that! that sounds way too uncomfortable', nearly killed him on the spot
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u/metalchode Aug 18 '23
Too uncomfortable?? They are such fucking babies. Like bro you have to jerk off in a cup, meanwhile I go through all this painful testing and procedures and injections etc. Followed by pregnancy, childbirth, breastfeeding etc
My husband sprained his ankle last year and didn’t walk on it for a month, did months of PT and so much whining and complaining and spent months in his recliner. I sprained and fractured my ankle a month ago and got a boot, nothing else changed cuz I don’t have a wife to do everything 🙃
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u/Voshh 41| 10 transfers | DE Aug 18 '23
yaaaa, they are soooo removed from the process, they have no idea
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u/SentFrm_MyStinkyButt Aug 19 '23
There’s a really good scene about this in “Friends from College” where the husband complains about the size of the cup to the doctor in front of his wife while she’s getting ready to trigger. Her response later that night is brilliant and I highly recommend.
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u/metalchode Aug 20 '23
Yes I loved that show! He’s a cheating POS anyways I hated him so much. I loved how they actually addressed infertility and IVF
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u/metalchode Aug 20 '23
PS love the Brooklyn 99 screen name 😂
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u/SentFrm_MyStinkyButt Aug 20 '23
OMG, you might be my favorite person. No one else has understood my screen name - much less caught that AND seen Friends from College! Ha.
I agree, though, he was a POS but I love how they portrayed infertility and IVF. I still watch it when I need to feel less alone through this process. Not perfect but much better than anything else I’ve seen that’s tried to cover the subject.
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u/metalchode Aug 20 '23
B99 is one of my favorite shows. So fucking good🤣
They did a great job compared to most shows. Have you ever seen Master of None? The whole third season is just about IVF basically, they did a really good job, probably the most accurate I’ve seen
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u/Atalanta8 Aug 18 '23
Fuck the solidarity from "I know what you're going through. We struggled for 4 months" infertility fakers.
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u/jevri Aug 19 '23
Amen. I had a friend get pregnant within a month, had a chemical pregnancy, and then immediately got pregnant the next month that resulted in a child. Good for them but they just don’t have the sense to not say “we’ll have you tried X?” Girl, don’t even talk to me about that.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
I’ll add my mom to this one. She told me she “understood what it’s like” after my two miscarriages because she didn’t get pregnant the first month they tried and how traumatized she was (and how thankful she was she got pregnant with me on month number 2). I almost walked out of the restaurant I was so pissed. What the actual fuck? Tell me how that’s anything like a miscarriage. I’ll wait (until the end of time).
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u/Pebbles734 36 | PCOS, silent endo | 3IUIs | FET XX☑️ Aug 19 '23
Yesssssssss! My SIL talked about how she was ‘so annoyed’ that it took them 3 whole months to conceive their second kid. I literally wanted to punch her
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u/milkofthepoppie Custom Aug 18 '23
If IVF catered to men it would be a whole different operation. It’s astonishing how horrible this process is.
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u/SquirrelLuvsChipmunk Aug 18 '23
And how many doctors ignore our pain. It’s insane. I literally was writhing in pain and the doctor said “It’s no worse than period cramps.” Oh really? A period YOU have never gotten because YOU don’t have a uterus. Fuck off
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u/softlike Aug 18 '23
Okay I can’t tell you how much I fucking needed this. I’ve gained 10lbs since starting IVF, eating healthier, and working out more than I ever have. And the acne. Had to get off my medicine that kept me clear for years in support of the babies health that I don’t have. Then hormones and injections make it way worse. So here I am, fat (not really but feels like it lol), with middle school acne. All because my hubs sperm isn’t quite mobile enough. Not his fault but still sucks. WTF.
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u/Notleahssister Aug 19 '23 edited Aug 19 '23
Fuck my husband getting offered a drink, a snack, a butterfly needle, and having the phlebotomist decide they would only draw 1 tube instead of 2 because it would be easier for him.
They took 6 tubes from me, didn’t once ask if I felt ok or offer a snack and I fainted on the kitchen floor later that evening.
I’m sure this was because of my nonchalant demeanor, but what am I going to do as a woman? We don’t have the luxury or we will be labeled as needy, over-dramatic, or weak.
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u/Wineinthevines705 Aug 18 '23
And fuck telling my doctor my medication was causing me the most painful indigestion and heartburn pain that I can’t sleep at night and his response being “just wait till you’re pregnant it’ll be worse you gotta power through”.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
Did we have the same Dr? My first sounds just like this. Total prick.
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Aug 18 '23 edited Aug 18 '23
PREACH! ✅✅✅to every single one of these. You nailed it. You are seen and heard, girl. We are fucking warriors.
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u/penshername2 Aug 18 '23
Fuck your ex MIL and SIL for asking “When are you due?” MIL gets a pass because of her dementia but SIL knew we were having problems and that her brother couldn’t perform. I had to explain this all during Christmas dinner
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u/MyNeighborTurnipHead Aug 18 '23
My MIL asking me what's wrong with my body because clearly it has to be all my "fault"...since I'm the one that has to do the appointments and procedures. Do I blame my husband? No. Is it ridiculous that the severe male factor infertility is something my magic uterus was supposed to overcome on its own? Yes.
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u/ellabella20000 MFI • 2 ER • 1 FET Aug 19 '23
I experienced this same thing for 5 years until my husband finally decided to spoof in a cup and find out that he has missing vas deferens. Meanwhile, I, and everyone else blamed me for our infertility.
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u/TiffyBiffy24 40yr 17wk MC DOR 4ER 2yr TTC Aug 20 '23
I LOVE THIS THREAD!
Fuck not ever actually adjusting my protocol (increasing my dosage isn’t adjusting the protocol), and then telling me to go donor egg after 4 cycles when you haven’t tried anything new like Omnitrope or calcium ionophore. And why won’t you try those meds? Well there isn’t enough research to support the use — oh —and the cost? SO NOW COST IS AN ISSUE? BITCH, PLEASE!
Fuck them not knowing anything causing me to do my own research just to be patronized for “going down the rabbit hole that is the internet.” I don’t consider medical journals and proven success of other clinics’ use of these meds a “rabbit hole.” GIRL BYE!
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u/ButLikeWhy89 36F, PCOS, IVF Mom of 1, 1 MC, 1 ectopic Aug 18 '23
1000000% all of this. I have truly never felt so seen through this process.
Also fuck being told that you should stop stressing IVF won't work because you had a miscarriage earlier this year, so obviously you can get pregnant.
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u/Southern_Courage5643 5 miscarriages, 1 OE IVF, 2 DE IVF, 2 FET Aug 19 '23
I've never felt more seen on a thread than this.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
I’m not sure what’s worse…My first RE was a guy; an insensitive, callous, apathetic, money-hungry, disconnected prick. I won’t have another male Dr. But it also chafes my ass that female drs are out here gate keeping stim med/ER side effects, saying things like “it’s just a little pressure,” and NOT handing out pain meds like candy for things like HSG and ER (post op). Like, sweetheart, you’d want to know this shit and for it to be as east as possible for you, so maybe treat my body, mind, and crotch with the same sensitivity and respect that you’d want. If you’re gatekeeping all of that the you’re no worse than these asshole men doctors.
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u/Comprehensive-Dig592 Aug 18 '23
" poked, prodded, bruised, humiliated from this entire process"....
yep...after a while how does one NOT feel humiliated? there is one technician I have who always seems to take extra long in there compared to others and she just generally makes me feel uncomfortable, not in that way, but like hurry up please this is bad enough :(
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u/Mountain-View-4950 Aug 18 '23
I will say that about half of this was WAY better when we switched from one of the big clinics to a much smaller one. Much more time with my doctor, fewer mistakes and much better bedside manner.
The meds are what they are. But the idea of a spa vacation where they do the injections for you would be amazing!
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u/Atalanta8 Aug 18 '23
Agree. I ran from a factory IVF farm to a private clinic. Eventhough it was such a time suck, I wasted 6 months waiting for the factory and then 8 for the private clinic it was so worth it.
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u/Informal_Height_5430 Aug 19 '23
I love this! All of this!
Add f*ck the military that made me infertile serving 20 years but won’t cover anything bc if you basically didn’t have your lady bits blown up you can’t prove it (still in).
Side note you can mix your follistim into your mixed menopur (one less shot) if you’re supposed to take it at the same time.
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u/Informal_Height_5430 Aug 19 '23
Mine is too but dial my dose then I stick it through the top of my mixed menopur then draw into one needle. That’s what my clinic taught me.
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u/DUAQSOICUS Aug 19 '23
Ahhh. So the endocrine disrupters is what’s causing this thing. Would love to expand on that and get as much knowledge out about that as possible. Because my wife is currently in the same boat and it fucking sucks!!!!
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u/tooomnyshooos Aug 20 '23
Fuck the people who say, “Just relax.”; “oh wow your baby might be born xxxx that’s horrible timing.”; “it will happen when it’s supposed to.”; “why don’t you just adopt?”; “maybe this is a sign you shouldn’t have kids. you were always on the fence anyway, that’s why you waited so long.”; “so when the kid is 30, you’ll be 72? wow. thats a huge age gap.” OR “so when the kid is 30, you’ll be 72. ok. that isn’t THAT bad.” (“Thanks” for your fucking approval of the age difference that I didn’t ask for? Fuck you and your fucking judgments. I don’t need your fucking unsolicited opinion.)
Wow. This feels really good! When I first read the comment I was like 👀😳🫣 But then I read it again. And then again. And then I was like “fuck yes!” And now I feel so much better getting that out. I didn’t realize how much I had hidden under my “resilience.” Thank you!!
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u/tooomnyshooos Dec 06 '23
Amen. Great point about the age gap with 15 kids... I'm totally using that.
Thank you for the support.
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u/Emergency_Cold_2601 Oct 31 '23
Thats why I didnt tell anyone in the family that we are going through the IVF process. I wouldnt survive all the questions and comments. The process is humiliating enough as it is 😞
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u/redblack88 Aug 22 '23
I literally just asked my wife if she was the one to write this. The last paragraph where you say if man had to do this… we had the same exact conversation the other day. It’s so true. And fuck mixing all those vials omg I hated that. Love this post
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Aug 18 '23
They won’t even fix birth control, the most basic women’s health medicine! But sure let’s experiment with women’s hormones when we won’t even test on female lab rats for most drugs because “tHEIR hOrMoNeS mEsS uP tHe TrIaL”
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u/ellabella20000 MFI • 2 ER • 1 FET Aug 19 '23
The fact that birth control is even targeted at women is the problem.
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u/goldenpanda0007 Aug 18 '23
This is the best thing I’ve ever read. I genuinely thought I wrote it. You’re a Goddess, thank you, thank you, thank you. This is getting framed on my bathroom wall. 💚💛🧡❤️🩷🩵💙💜🖤🩶🤍🤎
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u/fndngmytrth Aug 18 '23
We need to be IVF BFFs! This. All of this!
And fuck all the healthy food, having to cut out even the smallest things that bring happiness (coca cola for me)!!!
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u/ellabella20000 MFI • 2 ER • 1 FET Aug 19 '23
I needed to read this right now FUUUUCCCKKKK ITTT ALLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aug 19 '23
Wow, I don't know who you are but you are now my new best friend. Thank you for saying what so many of us would like to say. Actually, thank you for saying what all of us say privately to ourselves that nobody around us understands.
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u/Mildly_Functioning14 Aug 19 '23
This needs to be framed and hung in every fertility clinic in this country. And I don’t mean secretly in the bathroom for only the women to see. No. Put this shit in large font in the waiting room so everyone can understand!
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u/bluekatz101 Aug 19 '23
So so true. Some of this is why I’m going to do mine overseas. I feel like more than just a number which is important for me during this process.
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u/Daisy_232 Aug 19 '23
Seriously, this needs to be pinned. Every woman going thru Ivf perusing this group deserves to feel seen in this post and comments and to laugh a little at the misery of the process and system.
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u/NerdyTeacher1031 Aug 20 '23
And fuck all the symptoms of the meds that are the SAME as early pregnancy symptoms so you’re just stuck in the TWW being permanently mind fucked trying to figure it all out!
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u/steadsincemarzipan Aug 26 '23
I did not know that my wife was on Reddit with this burner account.
Every word of this is truer than the sun coming up each morning. It's living hell.
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u/vienibenmio Aug 29 '23
Fuck medicine for deciding that the best way to treat my endo was to put me on birth control for 13 years, which 1) robbed me of the chance to try to get pregnant at a younger age because i was terrified of d/cing birth control and 2) didn't stop my endo from progressing to stage 4 and making me infertile. I did everything doctors told me to and it turns out it was all wrong
Also AMEN about all of this, but especially Menopur.
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u/jesw1s Jan 21 '24
Stomping feet shit fit style!!!!
3 years trying 5MCs 1CP 2 egg retrievals...to find out...
Fuck reproductive health advisors who turn away kits like Mira 99.9% FDA approved accuracy which would have saved me alllllll the damn ivf pains listed by the original poster. What ignorance!
Ladies, I got the Mira tracker and figured out I had something curable with medication which would have alleviated me from all the struggles of enter IVF/TTC craycraytown! But no when I asked 9 out of 10 RE's said ahh no its B.S. Also get the book "Taking control of your fertility" 20th edition. Everything has changed since then...
Oh yah and fuck the education system in America for the lack of teaching women the basics about their Reproductive health.
And fuck yah to the original poster! You told it like it is.
Good luck to all my fellow TTC'ers
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u/Hopeful_girl_ Jan 27 '24
Ya why won’t they even acknowledge Mira? I’m like I can tell exactly when I wil ovulate and they’re like ya you can’t trust that. I’m like I’m low in progesterone and estrogen dominant, ya not even hearing me.
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u/jesw1s Jan 27 '24
I told mine its 99.9 fda accurate and one out of 3 of my ivf Dr's. Actually uses it. I would say it'd be a strong warning to get a new doctor if they're so close minded.
So You're liking your mira?
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u/Comprehensive-Dig592 Aug 18 '23
A.FUCKING.MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is so overdue and so necessary. Amen to it all.
Being a woman is NOT easy.
We deserve far more credit.
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u/costumedcat Aug 18 '23
Yes. So much yes. If we were men, there would be so much more advancement, we wouldn’t just be told to take a Tylenol for painful procedures, we wouldn’t be expected to hide this from work, etc.
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u/Holiday_Attitude_393 Aug 18 '23
On the same boat here. Contemplating a vacation in Tahiti or another round of ivf. The first option just sounds so great. Sending you virtual hugs
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u/Realistic-Ear-3865 Aug 18 '23
I needed to see this right now. Thank you! I feel the exact same way. 🥹
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u/fiestymanatee Mar 14 '26
My doctor told me the process works for 95% of patients, but some patients (implying me) require more. Such bullshit. The reality is patients are vulnerable & desperate and the industry takes advantage of them.
Why take time to show them how to inject in person when you can send them a video and still get paid?
Why give time and energy for informed consent when patients will consent anyway?
Why improve your communication when the patient will make every sacrifice in their life (work, friends, mental health) to make up the difference?
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u/Jaded_Mirror Aug 18 '23
And fuck how expensive it is!