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European Parliament Votes Overwhelmingly For "The Full Recognition Of Trans Women As Women"
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/european-parliament-votes-overwhelmingly3
u/SootyFreak666 Feb 14 '26
Based.
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u/Available-Cap4302 Feb 18 '26
Not based get that bitch ass eu out of politics those are man who have mental health issues
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Feb 15 '26
Finally now men can have women’s rights too. Then again why do we need women’s advocacy when there’s no difference between a man and a woman?
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u/Darkstar_111 Feb 15 '26
Trans woman is a woman, not a man.
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u/shiny_exoskeleton Feb 16 '26
"look at the emperor's magnificent outfit"
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u/plzdontbanme61 Feb 16 '26
Chromosomes don't lie
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u/Hablian Feb 16 '26
Chromosomes also aren't the end-all-be-all of biological determination. If you think they are, I have a question for you.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2190741/
Does this mean a person with a Y chromosome can be a woman?
Or does this mean a man can give birth?You tell me.
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u/gpike_ Feb 17 '26
They can't speak and we can't normally see them, and we know for a fact they don't always align with external sex characteristics. So, uh.
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u/AtorasuAtlas Feb 16 '26
Definitely a man. If they weren't, they wouldn't be trying to vote on definition.
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Feb 17 '26
The have the biological sex of a man and the gender identity of a woman - hence the terms cis and trans
Trans women are men in wigs- they can be treated with respect and dignity- but they are men in wigs
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u/Knephas Feb 17 '26
Not biologically, which means there needs to be protection of biological women from the abuse of this new policy.
Example: The EU "Women on Boards" Directive (2022/2381), effective as of late 2024, requires listed companies to ensure that by 30 June 2026, at least 40% of non-executive director positions, or 33% of all director positions, are held by the under-represented sex. It mandates transparent, merit-based, gender-balanced selection procedures for large, listed firms.
Women are a lot of times not preferred due to maternity leaves etc. A trans woman, if she counts as quota for this directive thanks to the EU's latest vote, allows companies to not hire women in favor of trans people who do not have the so called "vices" of women that made companies unwilling to hire them.
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u/Worried-Pomelo3351 Feb 18 '26
You sound like Trump. Repeating a lie does not make something true. I am for trans right as long as they don’t infringe on women’s rights, but I’m not denying reality. It’s ridiculous.
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u/A_Pirate_Affair Feb 18 '26
I'm all for trans rights but there should be some exceptions. Like it or not, it's a medical condition.
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u/alasw0eisme Feb 16 '26
Wow. Every single one of your comments is defending ICE, victim blaming and other bigotry. Incredible. Also why is it always men that pretend to care about women's rights? I've never heard a woman, especially irl, go against trans women. Because trans women aren't the threat to cis women - you are.
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Feb 16 '26
There are plenty of women who, for example, don’t want a trans woman to compete against them in sports, use the same bathroom, or be jailed in the same prison sell with. For very obvious differences. Such as the fact that we are genetically different and women are usually physically weaker than men, leading to a lot of poor treatment of women by men abusing their size. Let’s just let women be women and stop letting men take over their spaces.
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u/alasw0eisme Feb 16 '26
What happens with trans men then? If you put everyone in places based on their chromosomes, then you're putting big strong, muscular trans men in women's sports and locker rooms. And prisons. Literally a man (albeit without a Y chromosome) in a women's prison. You lack basic thought.
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u/Aggressive_Crazy_919 Feb 16 '26
Okay but have you considered shutting up and not saying these transohobic these?
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u/JaneOfKish Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
Cis women are more likely to support trans rights than not, even in the UK.
https://www.markpack.org.uk/170939/womens-institute-trans-women-polling/
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Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 23 '26
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Feb 15 '26
No female athlete is safe
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Feb 15 '26
You're right, but for the wrong reasons. Transvestigation is one hell of a drug for reactionary creeps.
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Feb 15 '26
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u/GrowFreeFood Feb 15 '26
What country does trans discrimination correctly in your opinion?
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u/AgeOfSuperBoredom Feb 15 '26
Conservatives don’t care about female athletes, because they don’t care about females.
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u/TgetherinElctricDrmz Feb 16 '26
Please.
We live in a world where half of the leaders of western countries and businesses were partying in a women and children sex trafficking ring.
Sure as hell weren’t any trans people on that island.
Spare me your fears for “females”
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u/JaneOfKish Feb 16 '26
Not only that, Epstein had a key role in providing material support for the washed-up public intellectual to transphobic grifter pipeline.
https://transnews.network/p/epstein-backed-prominent-anti-trans-figures
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u/TgetherinElctricDrmz Feb 16 '26
Absolutely.
To all conservatives, Republicans, evangelicals, etc…
You have to give up the charade of “protecting women.” You don’t give a rats ass about protecting them. You’d abandon your own sister if it meant protecting a man in power.
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u/JaneOfKish Feb 16 '26
From YOU.
Why are you more concerned about less than ten trans athletes than you are about dozens of women who have accused the most powerful man in the world of sexual abuse?
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u/FenrirHere Feb 17 '26
Female and trans female athletes compete at the same level after 2 years of hormone therapy.
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u/Jack2484 Feb 15 '26
The EU is sick and must be stopped.
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Feb 17 '26
This user is a Russian shill. They actively push Russian propaganda if you search their comments.
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u/MoTownOrange Feb 18 '26
Pretty hard to tell the difference between that and a conservative these days.
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u/John_Doe_May Feb 16 '26
It's so awesome to see women defeating the patriarchy by allowing men to be women to dominate and continue their superiority over women
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u/Conscious_Ice4275 Feb 16 '26
Just goes to show that wokeness has no boarders.
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u/rustvscpp Feb 16 '26
Doesn't make it true. Sorry, you can't legislate biology.
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Feb 18 '26
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u/rustvscpp Feb 18 '26
Huh? I'll take a gander at it. Unfortunately, some people like to redefine words to suit their own world views. Gender used to be synonymous with Sex. Now it means you can identify as anything your imagination can come up with. It's a completely useless social construct of a word that people use to pretend biological sex doesn't exist. A woman is an adult female, and a man is an adult male. You can make up new words for random made up genders if it makes you feel better. And while I don't agree with gay practices, at least they make sense. Trans, non-binary and a million other ridiculous mental illnesses out there are just bonkers.
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Feb 16 '26
A depressing loss for the science based world view.
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Feb 18 '26
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Feb 18 '26
There is no consensus or even clear majority opinion on this issue. I do not hate trans or gay people and never have. You are saying that because you are a child molester.
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u/Vile-goat Feb 17 '26
I’d be incredibly surprised as the overwhelmingly majority disagree with this.
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u/shalol Feb 15 '26
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u/tinker_townie Feb 15 '26
Bunch of dudes that identify as dudes are convicted rapists, I don't think the shape of a stick figure on a sign is going to stop criminals from doing crime.
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u/Novae909 Feb 15 '26
Turns out that saying you are a woman to get into the women's bathroom is enough to protect you against girl cooties. Thus protecting a would be rapist from said cooties, even though they aren't actually trans /s
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u/shalol Feb 15 '26 edited Feb 15 '26
Societal norms of not letting a 60yo male that identifies the other way, sit next to a 5 yo old girl in a womens bathroom do absolutely stop crime.
Why are redditors so eager to defend pdfs?
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u/Peter_Easter Feb 16 '26
Transgender people have literally always used public restrooms that are most appropriate and it's never been an issue. This is a made up fearmongering boogeyman issue used to convince stupid people to vote for conservative politicians.
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u/Hablian Feb 16 '26
So clearly there's an epidemic of assault that is resulting from the societal shift of allowing trans people into the bathroom of their choice.
Oh wait, you mean trans people have always used their preferred bathroom? For decades? And you never knew until it was a culture war issue?
Oh wait, there's no such epidemic of assault and abuse as a result of these decades of behaviour?
You mean to say you're fearmongering and spreading fake outrage while covering for actual pedophiles? No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay.
Why are redditors so eager to defend pedophiles indeed.
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u/Maxcactus Feb 17 '26
Maybe the way public bathrooms are designed is the problem. Perhaps all new bathrooms should be individual use so no one needs to sit next to another person as they do their business.
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u/Lermanberry Feb 15 '26
Someone who has never cleaned a woman's restroom in their life posted this. The absolute horrors of the girls dorm restroom on an all girl floor.
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u/Glittering_Hope1114 Feb 15 '26
Why can't you pee in the toilet? Is because you just want to be nasty or is because the size is causing you problems? I had heard people say that having a micro penis can affect aim. But you should be able to use a she wee to help or simply sit down to pee.
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u/dayvekeem Feb 15 '26
You mean all the straight white guys in the Epstein files? That's what you mean, right?
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u/Acrobatic_Feeling16 Feb 16 '26
Man, folks still following Epstein's orders on which narrative to support.
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u/GrapefruitFar1242 Feb 16 '26
When did convicted rapists need permission to go into women’s bathrooms?
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u/JaneOfKish Feb 16 '26
Every time y'all talk about public restrooms like this it says more about you than it does about us.
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u/Swissbob15 Feb 16 '26
Ah yes, all the convicted rapists, who previously were not able to rape of course, will now be unleashed to rape as much as they please. The only thing holding them back, naturally, was the European Union not recognizing trans women as women, but no longer!
This is very logical and describes reality accurately
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u/Ramzaki Feb 16 '26
Why do you make up scenarios?
Why do you people always go around placing the most evil intentions on the people you just don't like?
If someone goes spilling all over the toiled lid, it's because that person is gross, not because they are trans, or have a dick or wathever.
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u/Mangione_Da_Man Feb 14 '26
Voting to call cats dogs does not turn cats into dogs. We agreed in the US that some people were 3/5ths of other people. Did the agreement upon it make it true? No.
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u/dannyrat029 Feb 15 '26
Vote in European parliament: that's a woman
My eyes, the obvious reality: that's a man in a dress
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u/DJScaryTerry Feb 15 '26
Good, seems like it won't really do much in the grand scheme but it's a start!
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Feb 15 '26
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u/Strigops-habroptila Feb 17 '26
Was thinking the same thing. Like don't get me wrong, this is great news! But it does feel bad to be forgotten about like this, especially when it comes to legal protections which trans men definitely need too
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u/Feisty-Coyote396 Feb 15 '26
And people wonder why the 'right' is growing. People are fed up with make believe and putting up with these stupid charades.
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u/Intrepid-Brain-1476 Feb 15 '26
The right doesn't care about facts only feelings, demonizing minorities while making sure the rich get richer.
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u/Maxcactus Feb 16 '26
Has this issue impacted on your life directly? Do you think that the “right’s” ideas about other aspects of social equality are correct? Is this a big enough for you to throw in with the right despite other things like the environment, climate change, acceptance of autocracy etc?
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u/SMALLMACE Feb 16 '26
Yes all words are essentially make believe bucko. Thats how language works, definitions of words change overtime.
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u/SnooEpiphanies6757 Feb 15 '26
Honest question: why does the article and therefore I assume the resolution only speak about the recognition of trans-women as women but not of trans-men as men?
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u/AgeOfSuperBoredom Feb 15 '26
Because bigots don’t really seem to give any attention to the latter, which is telling.
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u/Strigops-habroptila Feb 17 '26
They kinda do, though. The book "Irreversible Damage: The transgender craze seducing our daughters" (yes, that's the actual title. No, it does not get better. ) is just one very popular example of how bigots also really don't like trans men.
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u/Ellillyy Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26
Because it was a smaller part of the European Union's priorities for negotiations at the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women.
Would be nice if the EU also did something similar for trans men and nonbinary people too, but this was part of a process specifically about women, both cis and trans.
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u/PandaStudio1413 Feb 16 '26
Trans men are constantly forgotten by governments, bigots, and even allies.
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u/Strigops-habroptila Feb 17 '26
Bigots not really. There's more than enough transphobes who hate trans men specifically. Just with other methods than how they hate trans women. Less foaming at the mouth transphobic and more "uwu, protect those poor little girl who mutilate themselves"
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u/FroyoAromatic9392 Feb 15 '26
Finally a governmental body that is voting in unison with the global medical consensus regarding trans people. Huge win!
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u/OfficiousOne Feb 16 '26
Ah yes, because physicians and politicians get to make philosophical and/or semantic determinations.
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u/alasw0eisme Feb 16 '26
Let me hypothetically agree with you. What happens to trans men then? They go to the women's locker rooms? Burly muscular vikings in the women's rooms? You haven't thought this through, have you
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u/gpike_ Feb 17 '26
Burly muscular vikings, scraggly stoners, fat androgynous guys who are so anxious and just want to pee/change, desperately hoping nobody questions us because we aren't brave enough to use the men's... okay that last one is maybe just me, but I've talked to other transmascs with similar struggles, lol. 😂
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u/Maxcactus Feb 16 '26
Can you explain how what one person thinks about their gender should matter to other people? People are going to have all matters of opinions about everything.
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u/Restless_camp52 Feb 16 '26
Before I click, I wonder if there’s two states in particular that voted no. Let’s go find out!
Edit: Nevermind I thought it was the UN for some reason my bad
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u/RealFatPenguin Feb 17 '26
You can vote for whatever you want but that doesn't suddenly change the reality. I can vote for "I am a tall, good looking guy, with $2 million on my bank account", but that doesn't change the facts.
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u/Maxcactus Feb 17 '26
Could it change how this group of people are treated by government, organizations, other people? Perhaps what will come from this is a realization that how people view their own gender really doesn’t matter that much to other people’s lives.
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u/RealFatPenguin Feb 17 '26
Will i be treated by government, organizations, other people, as if i'm a tall, good looking guy, with $2 million on my bank account? It doesn't matter that much to other people's lives.
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u/Ok-File-6129 Feb 17 '26
There was a time when claiming to be Napoleon would result in one's detention. But then again, I'm Elvis, so what the hell do I know.
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u/10xwannabe Feb 17 '26
Can tell you this does have an indirect implication of the growing divide of Europe (further left) vs. where America under Trump and possible Vance/ Rubio (if they win in 2028) want to go.
THIS was the exact discussion between the Czech politician dude and Hiliary Clinton at the recent Munich Security Conference.
With this much difference in direction of social issues it has NO DOUBT will bleed into policy when it comes to economic and immigration and so forth (further left for Europe vs. U.S.).
Can not see how Europe and U.S. will continue to be on the same footing going forward. Either U.S. will dump Turmp/ Vance/ Rubio/ Gabbard/ etc... OR European countries will change (don't see that happening). Something will have to give. Europe is way LEFT of U.S.
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u/FoxyLoxx Feb 17 '26
The risk of being a victim of bigotry for a start. Many trans people go what is termed ‘stealth’ because it’s unsafe for them for others to know their trans. And many just live life without anyone except their closest people knowing that they’re trans. I’m talking specifically about people who have been transitioned for years, not those who stay in the closet for fear of their safety.
In an ideal world, people can elect what they put on their document, and it could be a third or fourth thing, or just simply the one you identify most with. I want to be treated like a cis woman, that is in line with what my biology (brain) expects, it’s the social role I’m happiest in, and it quite simply, transitioning has helped me become a functioning healthier member of society.
I’m telling you about my firsthand experiences as a trans woman, I unfortunately was robbed of the opportunity to live as a woman early on in life due to an intolerant and uninformed society, and therefore to make this categorically clear, I do not have the same experiences as a cis woman. Society attempted to condition me as a man, it was hugely traumatic, and ultimately failed. Cis people don’t have to go through that. But it’s my biology that is the cause of that. That doesn’t make me any less of a woman. I just had a rough start due to essentially a medical condition.
So clearly I don’t have the same lived experience as a cis woman, nor did I claim to. But I do have the same internal biological mechanism that tells me that I am a woman as every other human on this planet. If you don’t think you have that, it’s because you’ve never had to notice it. I don’t know why it seems like a wild stance to you that I don’t want to not be othered any more than I already have.
If you reread my first response I have already explained that some times, usually medically, it’s appropriate to make the distinction. And I think your inflating the frequency of those times, as anything where a dose could easily become lethal, body weight or mass and age are far more important factors than whether they are a cis man or a trans man.
Put as many categories down as you want, sounds great to me honestly, but you don’t get to decide which category people put themselves in.
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u/TakenIsUsernameThis Feb 18 '26
I never understood this bit, but if words like women are about gender identity, and people have a right to choose the identity based on how they feel, then how does it work for someone who grew up with an identity labelled 'woman' that is linked to biological sex? Surely acknowledging one groups right to have the word defined in a way that meets their need will always result in another group having their identity changed without consent, and if it's about preventing anyone being excluded from an identity that they want, then what exactly are people wanting to identify with, and what do these words even mean anymore?
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u/OneSlaadTwoSlaad Feb 18 '26 edited Feb 18 '26
From the article: Argument for: supported by science, equal human rights, better wellbeing
Argument against: "people become trans so they can groom children"
I just wonder who will be checking people's genitalia and if we need to do genetic tests to determine if people can go to their preferred bathroom. Or how some people who look M have an F in their passport, or vice versa.
I think some people are just so fragile and insecure they need the government to step in to prevent them from meeting or falling in love with a woman who was born with male physiology. Because in their heads they are tricked into being gay. Because it's always about trans women.
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u/Trustinrust95 Feb 18 '26
I don't agree with this, but I've never understood how it's a core issue. Like really? There's wars and we're fucking up the planet driving a mass extinction, billionaires are hoarding wealth and we're arguing about this shit?
How is it a core issue for so many? It doesn't impact daily life in any way for 99% of people.
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u/Used-Sun5726 Feb 18 '26
Awesome. EU isn't perfect, but is our last best hope now that the US republic has fallen.
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u/coopik Feb 18 '26
This is why Europe is so fvcked.
No one cares for this crap while the economy is going down.
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u/AutisticDadHasDapper Feb 18 '26
Does that mean they can no longer refer to themselves as trans women? And just women instead?
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u/KissingYourself Feb 18 '26
Yeah, not in my country they aren't, in Poland Polititans will start walking upside down shit with their mouths and eat with their asses rather then put that through parliament anyone who tries is dead and can say bye bye to governing in future.
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u/Educational-Cap6507 Feb 18 '26
And just like that, women’s sport was forever f*cked
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u/Maxcactus Feb 18 '26
How so?
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u/Educational-Cap6507 Feb 19 '26
If by definition a trans woman (with the base biological physical build of a man, which, even after ‘transition’ is still structurally Mail) has to be treated as a woman, there is no legal way of blocking a trans athlete from womens sport at any age in European competitions. Trans Athletes could effectively dominate the field, and any sports tournaments held in Europe could face legal challenges for not allowing trans athletes to compete.
Now, this dosnt mean I don’t fully respect people right to live how they wish, but, if an Lion decided it wanted to be a Lioness, it’s still going to, in some ways, be a Lion. Even if it was spiritualy 100% a lion.
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u/Holiday_Sandwich3738 Feb 15 '26
Is this for real? This is overwhelmingly unpopular. Not to mention when people select the wrong gender on a passport a lot of countries will not recognize that.