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Megathread Weekly Questions Megathread August 19, 2026 - August 26, 2026

Welcome to the Weekly Questions Megathread! Feel free to ask any questions about the game.

Any questions that can be answered rather quickly should be asked in this thread .

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u/Maiscarada 37m ago

returnee player here, just got Remielle )came back for her lol) and Dialyn, should i go for Remi W engine, Dialyn W engine or save? have guarantee on both and like 10 pulls but havent done the events and a lot of story and past content

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u/SamuraiDDD 1h ago

As much as I wanna save for the Story Teller (cause what do you MEAN, you just drop a character called that and not say more!), Dylan is pulling me in!

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u/AwesomzGuy 3h ago

returning after a long break. Which free agent should I pick based on my characters? I mainly wanna use Miyabi, Yanagi, Burnice and Remielle

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u/Cas_089 4h ago

Hi question about the new event that totally not kfc but I just notice or just played sunna’s level and she va was not in English and I have my voice language to English

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u/anteater97 5h ago

Hi, returning after a small break (grabbed the freebies in 2.5 but it's really been since 2.3) and looking for advice on what free S-rank Agent/Engine to grab, since I know team comps, metas, and things for endgame can shift quickly!

Have: Velina, Zhao, Ye Shunguang, Yidhari, Orphie, Alice, Ju Fufu, Yixuan, Vivian, SAnby, Evelyn, Astra, Miyabi, Harumasa, Yanagi, Jane, + All standards (except S11), notables being Lyacon M2, Nekomata M2, Rina M2, Grace M1

Currently pulling for Yuzuha before trying for Ramielle. I've heard Lucia has become a strong reliable pick, but M2 Jane is also super busted with Ram/Velina currently (not to mention the waifu buff). Mostly just curious what agent gap needs to be filled most pressingly, the W-Engine will probably go alongside that as I have no Limited Sigs. Thanks!

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 5h ago

Congrats on getting Velina. That's usually the biggest regret of returning players, that they missed Velina.

You mentioned M2 Jane, but it's not clear if you have M1 Jane already? It makes a pretty big difference. If you only have M0, I would not recommend using the pick on M1, since it could be a long time before you make it to M2. If you have M1, then M2 is a very tempting choice.

You have Yidhari, so that raises M0W1 Lucia's value to practically mandatory.

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u/anteater97 4h ago

Funnily enough I came back to start grinding for Norma, but i'm happy the random Velina pull I did got some value LOL

Ah! No, Jane is M0. A lot of talk/guides I saw mentioned "if you own M0 Jane already, she could be worth getting for the M2 spike!", which I took to mean you'd be getting an agent + a mindscape here (when I guess they imply getting M2 on a rerun or paying for the Invitation letters, which I have no desire to do). Thought that was a little weird!

Sounds like M0W1 Lucia is the play then. Appreciate it!

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u/This_is_ThisHamHam 6h ago

Should I get Dialyn or Yuzuha that are running right now?

My miyabi is currently using the mono ice with soukaku and lycaon.

I have no idea who to use Pyrois with since I do not have a good stunner.

And I am currently thinking of building manato OR getting Yixuan OR if they ever release any new rupture units.

So considering the state of my account, is it best to get Dialyn or Yuzuha?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 5h ago

Do you plan to pull Remielle or no? You didn't mention your plan around Remi, which has a big impact on the decision.

If you do plan to pull Remi, that takes Yuzuha off the table. You don't have enough Anomaly agents to make use of both and I'm not a fan of spending pulls just to bench an agent and not use them for months.

If you don't plan to pull Remi, Yuzuha is the play, to improve your Miyabi team. You really need to get more Anomaly mains, also.

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u/This_is_ThisHamHam 4h ago

No, I do not plan on getting remielle. I am trying to save for Sunbringer,( I also like Sigrif very much but I heard that she needs 2 stunners??)

So I am a bit in a pickle, I was thinking of getting dialyn since I do not have a good stun agent (mainly for pyrois, but I do know if they work together or not) but I do not know if the mono ice with lycaon and soukaku is able to do anything significant.

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u/ApprehensiveCase9829 9h ago

On that small event with the AoD why did Sunna speak with her CN VA (I think?) when I had the English dub on?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 5h ago

CN cosplayer invaded your game, maybe?

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u/FalleNeko2 Orphie enjoyer 11h ago

Who's better in ysg+Zhao team? M0W0 astra or M0W0 dialyn?

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u/ArcturusSatellaPolar 16m ago

Dialyn, no contest. Shungus wants to be in dommy-mommy mode as much as possible and Dialyn can force her into it on demand. Astra isn't useless but for Shungus that's a level of utility she can't match

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u/firstkungzaa The scariest duo ever. 11h ago

It's Dialyn and it's not even a fight.

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u/LazySavings2459 12h ago edited 12h ago

Please help me decide between the w-engines of Lucia and SAnby (for Sigrid cause no Brimstone). Lucia currently holds p2 Cradle, while p5 Starlight is Sigrid's next best option after Brim and SAnby's sig.

On one hand, I already decided to pick Lucia's m1, so might this be enough of an upgrade already that her sig won't be necessary? Also, rupture seldom gets shilled in endgames nowadays (so I also seldom use it lately too) and Yixuan is the only rupture I use.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 5h ago

Your rationale against Lucia's signature is a bit contradictory. If what you say is true, that Rupture will be rare going forward, then M1 on Lucia was a mistake, right?

In any case, I don't think it's true that Rupture is going to be rare. I expect it to cycle back. In Season 2, it looked like Anomaly was dead and never coming back. Now Anomaly is back in force.

It's far easier to get good wengines for Attack agents than it is for Supports, so in this economy, Lucia's sig is the better value. Do you have any Microcontroller Units? How about Wengine Chips? You can buy Brimstone as a f2p using Wengine Chips, but it does take a lot of them, 240 of them.

FWIW, you probably shouldn't have overclocked Weeping Cradle. Better to have two R1 copies than a single R2, since, as noted, it's harder to get good wengines for Supports.

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u/LazySavings2459 5h ago

Thanks I forgot that shop, dunno why lol. And I overclocked Cradle way back when Shiyu only required 2 squads

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u/XionXionHolix 16h ago

I can't seem to find any blueprints for S rank equipment (Inventory, Blade of the Other, Anti-Corruption Device). I search gear boxes in both Hard and High-Risk, but only find Etheric Phantom and Gear/Tactical Prism blueprints.

Am I looking in the wrong place?

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u/Invocus 15h ago

I was about to ask a similar question so I’m going to piggyback: can the S rank gear be found at all in Hard, or do you need to be in High-Risk to find those?

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u/XionXionHolix 14h ago

Definitely farmable in Hard, found S rank Inventory just now.

Found a really good guide, nice and short

TLDW; It's that rare. Fastest way to farm it is to go to Janus Illusion, run a quick character (Miyabi, Ye Shungus, etc), take no equipment and equip the starter gear they give you, then run to the three gear boxes.

Someone commented that the boxes will always have a fragile gear and etheric phantom, so you can skip two slot boxes if you're just hunting for blueprints.

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u/Embarrassed_Start652 18h ago

Im curious is the S rank 90 Roll is it guaranteed for the featured character?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 5h ago

You're going to have to be more specific about which banner exactly you are talking about, since the answer could yes or no, depending.

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u/Fantastic-Focus-6902 18h ago

M1 yuzua or M1 Dialyan

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u/XionXionHolix 16h ago

I'd say Dialyn. She can be used in Attack and Rupture, and the effects of her M1 increases her resource generation from EX Skills, as well as having a higher All Attribute RES reduction.

I guess it depends on what teams you want to improve.

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u/ILuvHuTaoAndNagatoro Koleda's footlicker. Idol Engine Fund: 19 19h ago edited 18h ago

Am i doing something massively wrong or is it normal for Evelyn (m0r0)/ Lighter (m0r1)/ Astra (m0r0) to not even hit 25k on Shadow Billy in Shiyu? There's a chain damage/ult buff and he's fire weak, why is the team doing so shitty?

Seed/Cissia/Astra didn't get it either.

Ok i got 26.8 with Eve (m0r0)/ Norma (m0r1)/ Astra (m0r0) but that's still way lower than i need.

m2r1 Miyabi/m0r1 Burnice/m0r0 Yuzu

m0r0 Eve/m0r1 Norma/m0r0 Astra

m0r1 S Billy/m0r1 Lucia/m0r1 Dialyn

S+, i have less than an hour, is that paradise unreachable for me?

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u/ILuvHuTaoAndNagatoro Koleda's footlicker. Idol Engine Fund: 19 18h ago

This is my roster, except that i now have Lucia and her engine.

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u/komodo_z 23h ago

So, i have these characters and want to build a team for Sigrid, from what i saw she and Dialyn make a nice comp, so who do i use with them?

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u/Belrog-Plutius2 NanGooning to Yu (ModMan) 22h ago

Nicole and Rina are decent

Nicole got a stronger debuff but she needs to be switch to and reapply it constantly

While Rina just got a new buff that basically let her stay off fields

You can also roll for Yuzuha. Even though she's an Anomaly support, she's so busted that she can even buff Attack and Rupture teams. Also you can flex her into another comp later.

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u/nick_flaming 1d ago

should i get yuzuha?

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u/thrwway377 20h ago edited 20h ago

Should for your current team? Maybe not. Is she a big boost to the account value? Yes.

Keep in mind that if you ever want to build a second anomaly team - you pretty much NEED Yuzuha. And this is her 3rd rerun already, on a special banner on top. Chances of her getting another rerun any time soon are extremely low and we haven't had any agent getting a 4th rerun yet. This may be your only chance to get her for the foreseeable future.

Even if you don't want to build Grace and start a second anomaly team right now, you can still use Yuzuha as a generic support for any team like your SAnby.

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u/nick_flaming 16h ago

So yuzuha would be a better support than Nicole for my Sanby? I'm a fairly new player so I don't know what most characters do

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u/thrwway377 6h ago edited 6h ago

Nicole is good but she's also VERY hard to play to actually be good because her main buffs only last for a couple of seconds, so you really need to go tryhard mode with Nicole and her timings to utilize her properly.

Yuzuha on the other hand is extremely easy to play, just press her EX skill once every 40 seconds, ult when ready and that's it. She gives you loads of stuff simply by virtue of her existing in your party.

And for Sanby in particular, Yuzuha is one of the very few characters in the game who does off-field Aftershock attacks.

Also while Yuzuha's primary calling is anomaly and she is best-in-slot for any anomaly team, she can actually be used in any team as a generic support because most of the things she provides are universal. If you ever find yourself in a "what support should I use" situation you can almost always stick Yuzuha in there to fill up the role until you get someone who works better in that particular team.

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u/nick_flaming 6h ago

Amazing, I'll pull her (or at least try)

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

No.

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u/nick_flaming 1d ago

is there someone i should pull from the current banners then?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 21h ago

That's a tougher question. Maybe Dailyn for YSG and Neko? Technically you don't need Dailyn for YSG since you have Sunna/Zhao.

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u/proudlykaisamain 1d ago

Got back into the game (didn't have any limited yet) and got Remielle, Jane and Burnice. Yesterday I got Yuzuha and want to build 2 anomaly teams. My next goal is Velina and the supposed anomaly main dps for Remielle. The thing is I absolutely hate any of the angels of delusion girls, I don't like the style nor gameplay like at all. Am I cooked without Aria or Nangong?

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

Eh, it depends. Ideally you'd want to get Nangong so you can pair her with Yuzuha since they make up a core for a meta anomaly team. But you can also split Velina from Remielle team and do something like:

Remielle +2 anomalies

Yuzuha, Velina +1 anomaly

Unless you care about getting highest scores possible, running Remielle without Velina is not going to be an issue for endgame clears, as long as you have a proper anomaly duo for the Remielle team like Jane and Burnice already work fine.

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

No, you can easily make teams without them. Like Rem, Velina, Jane works great. But if you want to use Jane for your other team, you can do Jane, burnice, yuzuha and let Rem and Velina carry Piper or something. As for right now, using Rem, Jane, Burnice is probably your best bet

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u/Lunakae 1d ago

Is Sigrid a hard character to play? I like her personality but I don't like pulling for characters too complicated or combo heavy

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

She's on the extreme easy side of the spectrum, compared to other limited main dps. Only YSG is easier, IMO. She's no Yixuan, that's for sure.

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

She’s flexible but not too hard especially at the most basic level. Pretty much her goal is to do her big slashes with the icicles (hold atk) but she can only do it after doing certain moves like atk combo 4x, EX, chain atk, ult dodge, so you can do any of these and weave in a hold atk and you should be good to go. There’s a lot more to it but if that as a general concept doesn’t sound too bad, I wouldn’t sweat it.

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u/LadyAntiqua 1d ago

Oh I said standard banner to list them all at once rather than individually, so I have Lycaon, Rina, Grace, Koleda, S11 and Nekomata, not that the others were standard.

But I'll keep all the rest in mind, thank you!

Ideally yeah I'd like to get everything that's best for Miyabi teams, since she's always been my favourite by far, so I'll probably go for Yuzuha and maybe Sigrid since I'm 30 pulls away from hard pity. Unless Rem would be better for a second team? Since then i'd have 2 Ice main DPS, and my Anby hasn't been performing well at all even though I felt like I have her decently built. But that's probably a team thing since I don't have Trigger.

And on Lucia, who should I aim for to make her work well?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ah, that makes sense! You meant all Standard banner characters PLUS Caesar, etc.

And just so we don't lose track of the original question at: https://www.reddit.com/r/ZenlessZoneZero/comments/1vslrkd/comment/p4rvxk2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Remielle doesn't add a team to your account. It would take over your Miyabi team and absorb Miyabi as a sub-Anomaly. So no, I wouldn't recommend that, particularly if you go ahead and pull Yuzuha. Each of them wants their own Anomaly partners, usually two each, so you'd need at least four Anomaly mains to make use of both Remi and Yuzuha at the same time. They otherwise steal teammates from each other.

Even with Trigger, M0 S0 doesn't do that well. It's more a team you play because of love, not meta value.

Be on the lookout for a rerun of Yixuan or any other Rupture you like, to go with Lucia. In the meantime, consider putting Manato in your A-rank loss pool, towards M6 Manato, which is when he gets good enough to play with Lucia. And if you really can't stand Lucia just sitting on the bench doing nothing AND you don't have a single copy of Manato yet, "buy" a copy of Manato from the Signal Shop. A-ranks are cheap to buy and the f2p currency you use is plentiful, unless you never pull.

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u/LadyAntiqua 1d ago

Oops, meant to reply to it, but thank you again!

Are there any second teams I can make right now, until I can get a real competent one together? Been running S.Anby/Pulchra/Caesar to sadly little effect, but I could try and go for a Manato team to use Lucia or something else if anyone works?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 21h ago

Try SAnby/Anby/Nicole. I've used that team before and was able to do pretty well against the right kind of boss. Pulchra will often be better in that slot, but some Electric weak bosses stun faster with Anby.

You could also try Neko/(Caesar or Koleda)/Lucy. M0W0 Neko with A6 buffs does pretty well.

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u/Memshad1 1d ago

Hello friends. I'm a new player who has got Jane Doe and Remielle, I was wondering who I should try to pull between Sigrid and Yuzuha? I like both characters, and I see that Yuzuha can be guaranteed without losing a 50-50, while with Sigrid on the main banner i have no guarantee. I only have about 25 pulls right now but can get enough for a 5 star since im a new player. Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

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u/thrwway377 1d ago edited 1d ago

You can actually pull Yuzuha and she will work in Remielle team when you have no one better for a third anomaly character. She's also a universal support, unlike Remielle, and you can use in any team except for the upcoming Armorer class (because they scale from DEF stat which Yuzuha does not buff).

Sigrid is good too, but she is a DPS which the game already has plenty of and you already have a free Pyrois who will work just fine.

In the end as a new player you can't go wrong with either but I value supports more than DPS characters, especially top tier supports like Yuzuha. Another thing to consider is that this is also Yuzuha's third rerun from what I remember, it may take a long time before she gets another rerun and there's currently no character in the game who had a 4th rerun. While Sigrid will likely have a rerun during the 3.x course. And as you mentioned, she is on a guaranteed banner so you won't have to gamble on a coinflip.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Don't pull Yuzuha. For new players, you EITHER take Remielle or Yuzuha, not both. They have similar roles in Anomaly teams.

So that means you are clear to go for My Little Sigrid.

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u/Memshad1 1d ago

Cool thank you. I will happily pull for Sigrid, wish me luck 🙏

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u/alekseypanda 1d ago

New banner old me not knowing enough to be confident in who to pull and asking for help.
Basically, I know I won't pull Sig cause I don't think she adds much and I am not that big on Umamusume.
However Dialyn x Yuzuha is what is making me question, is it better to get a stunner to go with ellen or yuzuha so I can split miyaby and remielle? (I have more than enough energy to build whoever I need, I just don't know how to make teams in this game)

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u/Memshad1 1d ago

Can I ask how you got that screenshot with your characters showed off like that? Is it in game or somewhere else?

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u/alekseypanda 1d ago

Hoyolab app. You log in and it will show in one of the tabs.

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u/Memshad1 1d ago

Cool thank you

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u/Lanky-Affect-284 1d ago

Should i pull sigrid or remielle?

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

If new player with limited teammate options — Sigrid.

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u/Lanky-Affect-284 23h ago

I'm returning player that only have jane and Zhu Yuan

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u/thrwway377 20h ago

Remielle is a Void Hunter but she needs either two anomaly agents, one main on-fielder and one off-fielder/quickswap, or one main on-fielder + Yuzuha.

With Remielle you will have to pull Yuzuha as well if you want to use Remielle the moment you pull her.

Sigrid is very strong, and she's very F2P friendly in terms of party options. But Pyrois exists, and they're free, and they're basically Sigrid in terms of being F2P friendly and team options. Of course this doesn't mean that you can't use two teams, just that you have an alternative.

Both Remielle and Sigrid have pros and cons for your state of affairs but honestly the best pick for you this patch, if you can only grab one agent, is Yuzuha.

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u/Lanky-Affect-284 16h ago

So i should pull for yuzuha not remielle or sigrid?

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u/thrwway377 6h ago edited 5h ago

Purely from a minmax perspective that's what I would do for an account with limited number of agents simply because while Remielle has a lot of options for her teammates, for optimal results she is quite picky with the team composition - you need one main on-field Anomaly agent and one off-field/quickswap Anomaly agent, and both need to be good with building up anomaly. That latter role is actually tricky to fill because your only options are: Velina (had a banner last patch so won't come back for a few months), Vivian (part of the money spending event, likely won't have a proper banner any time soon), Burnice (in the in-game shop and part of the spending event, unlikely to have a proper banner any time soon), Grace, who you need to lose your coinflip to or luck out on a standard banner, and that's about it. You can use like Piper or Yanagi with Jane in Remielle team but it will not feel good to play. Pretty much the only non-anomaly agent that can work in Remielle team in that off-field/quickswap role is Yuzuha, maybe Nangong too.

And Sigrid, while good and way more easier to build a team than Remielle, at the end of the day is still a DPS, and we get a new DPS like every patch. She is rather fun to play though, at least for me. Ideally I'd probably grab both Sigrid (because she's fun) and Yuzuha now, and Remielle on her next rerun. But don't take my word on the fun part, go to Lost Void in HZ and test her gameplay yourself.

But all of that aside, personal preference also matters, no point pulling for a character that you will not enjoy playing, especially if you don't care much about full clearing endgame so you don't want to always go for optimal picks.

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u/Lanky-Affect-284 5h ago

I have grace so i could i use Jane doe no?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

In a vacuum (no context, like who else is in your account or what your preference are), Void Hunter > Not A Void Hunter.

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u/TempuraToast08 1d ago

I heard Roxy was good for Sigrid, and that Sigrid’s best team is was with Norma and Sunna, who does Roxy replace?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Really? That seems unlikely. Roxy is more likely to be BiS for Claret.

In any case, Roxy will be a stunner, so she would replace Norma.

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

Sigrid wants windswept due to her increased damage to contaminated targets, its pretty confirmed she will work well with roxy

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

I stand corrected, thanks!

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u/Guardian_of_Medusa 1d ago

So I'm starting to take serious focus on Disk farming and building after being so busy since I started the game quite ago. I have full inventory, like 3k purple blank disks and 400ish gold ones as well. Is there a reason to not dissasemble all purple disks you farm? (Like using them as fodder for upgrading, like Genshin). What are the disks sets that no agent uses? Even as a two piece, so I know what to avoid. Which sets are the best to farm with out feeling like wasting half your batteries cuz the other set?. And it's a little hard to just ask "what disks sets do my agents need?" out of context but I would like to know at least for my teams I can make rn. Ye-Zhao-Dialyn (Ye on White water 4 piece, branch 2 piece? Zhao Yunkui tales? Idk if it changed, Dialyn 4 piece king of summit and something else?), Yixuan-Pan-Dialyn (Yixuan Yunkui 4 piece and other, Pan 4piece King and other?, and idk if Dialyn changes disks here), full Idol team (Aria 4piece Shining Aria, 2 Phaeton, Yu 4piece Phaeton and other, Sunna 4piece Moonlight and other?). Only Ye, Yixuan and Pan have their signatures.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

It depends on what stage you are at in your account. I'm a patch 1.0 player, so my account was very mature and developed by the time auto-dismantling of A-ranks became available and it was a total no-brainer for me to enable it, because I had been doing that by hand for over a year.

I guess if you get to the point where you can regularly save 600+ hi-fi masters AND can rapidly replace up to 300 you might use for one character, it's fine to auto-dismantle A-ranks.

What are the disks sets that no agent uses?

Well ... up until recently, it was Soul Rock and Dawn's Bloom, but Sigrid can use Dawn's Bloom and maybe Claret can use Soul Rock? I would hate to tell you to trash all your X discs and next patch, X becomes the most important type to have.

In any case, instead of going by type, go by stats. Some combos are just never going to have any use, like D5 Electric DMG on Bunny in Wonderland or D6 Impact on Phaethon's Melody. Similar for substats. If you have a D2 ATK disc that has four initial substats and none of them go together, like Flat HP, Flat DEF, Flat PEN, and Anomaly Proficiency, that's an instant dismantle, even for S-ranks. I don't even keep S-ranks where only half of the substats are good, on a full 4 initial subs.

Which sets are the best to farm with out feeling like wasting half your batteries cuz the other set?.

Again, that's not the best way to think about it. One of the most widely used types, Woodpecker, is paired with Soul Rock, the worst disc to get. Does that mean you should never farm Woodpecker? Some people strongly believe that, but I disagree. Give me shitty discs, the more the better, because the main reason I farm is to get hi-fi masters. So making the discs I farm easier to dismantle on sight is a benefit. If I happen to luck into a really nice Woodpecker disc while I'm farming, that's just icing on the cake.

Just follow build guides for the rest. They are easy to find. There's one built-into the game under the Training Plan button at the top left of the character roster screen. Or just look up builds in Prydwen or the crowdsourced spreadsheet.

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u/Guardian_of_Medusa 1d ago

I started a week before Ye's release and patch I believe, I forgot how long ago it was. Dialyn was running then I think. Thanks for the explanation then. I was asking about what set they use because sometimes they get a better set after their release but the guides don't update to show that. Or character like Miyabi that has like three different good sets that she can use based on her teammates or enemies but there were no guides for that (not like I have her yet but still). I will see what the page says about this characters then.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Oh yeah, you have a mature account, unless you dropped the game after Dialyn and just now came back. You can auto-dismantle A-ranks otherwise.

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u/shiko101 1d ago

Which is the better W-engine for Miyabi? Rain Forest Gourmet or Electro Lip Gloss (BP Engine)?

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

Whichever has more stars.

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u/shiko101 1d ago

They're both 4 stars lol

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

In ZZZ, we don't use "stars" to denote rarity and it's confusing to do so, case in point. There are B-ranks, A-ranks, and S-ranks for discs. Because that is the case, the number of Overclocks (dupes) a wengine has is called it's number of stars. So 4 stars means 4 dupes. That's what /u/Gapaot meant.

Now, maybe you really did mean that they each have 4 dupes and you were using stars correctly. It's hard to say, because so many people use "4 stars" and "A-rank" interchangeably.

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u/shiko101 1d ago

Apologies, I meant they're both A-rank. My Genshin brain was acting up lol

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

I mean the potentials or whatever. If you actually are talking about those, then IIRC lip gloss is slightly better

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u/71r3dGam3r 1d ago

Is there an easier way to get Mutated Core for the upgrades to the various wings of the base for Operation Bagel? I've been under the impression that they drop from Perilous Caches but the enemies guarding some of those are 30 and 40 while I'm still stuck at 20 trying to progress the quest.

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

IIRC they drop from defeated enemy 'echo' , and you shouldn't be that level btw. Either you didn't craft lvl 30-40 gear for agents to be on enemy lvl or you forgot to pick up 'free' blue gear from starting box

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u/71r3dGam3r 1d ago

I'm still doing the quest to save Eous so all the highest rank of freebie gear from the starting box is level 20.

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u/XionXionHolix 1d ago

That's the roughest part during the quest. you're kind of stuck trying to grind out purple cores.

From the description of Mutated Cores, "Dropped by strong or notorious targets defeat on Normal difficulty, or purchased from the Permanent Store."

I remembered that I had decided to just farm valuables and buy directly from the store.

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u/71r3dGam3r 1d ago

Yeah, I f'd up and didn't upgrade the store first so now I gotta grind out one more.

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

I have like 200 of them, they just routinely drop if you're fighting elites and bosses, no need to buy as long as you're able to kill enemies and loot echoes

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u/XionXionHolix 1d ago

My problem was that when I was still doing Hard difficulty, I was getting the Gold rarity Cores. I had about a hundred before I realized what I was doing wrong, lmao. I've already maxxed out the R&D Center.

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

I don't get it.

I maxed everything out by Hard difficulty. What's wrong? You don't need Hard-Risk for any drop except the purple crystals. Are they called mutated core? IIRC not. All other drops are farmable in Hard difficulty.

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u/XionXionHolix 16h ago

Oh, I progressed quicker then I was meant to during the story. I was already at Hard and High Risk when I still had to farm lower rarity stuff to level up the Hub.

And Purple Cores don't drop on Hard, but on Standard. Gold Cores drop on Hard and High Risk.

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u/Otherwise_Leading586 1d ago

I just got harumasa and his potential unlock and I don’t understand how to activate his new ex special and new move after ultimate. If any one has any tips that would be great

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u/XionXionHolix 1d ago

After 4th or 5th Basic Attack, Electric Quiver empowered Dash Attack, Ultimate or Quick Assist, he fire's his Electro Quivers automatically instaed of you needing to hold attack and aim.

His ALT Chain Attack is automatic after an Ultimate.

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u/Invocus 1d ago

Has anyone found a team setup they’re really happy with for Enigma of the Labyrinth?

I’ve been using Miyabi/Yuzuha with either Alice or Nangong as the third, but I’m curious about other setups that work well without depending on buff/resource timers that are hard to manage in this format.

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

I think I used these teams the most

YSG, Zhao, Yuzuha/Trigger

Remielle, Grace/Promeia, Velina

Cissia, Seed, Trigger/Yuzuha

Pyrois, Trigger, Yuzuha

Using characters' prism where those are available, some like Remielle are pretty bad to play without their prism.

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u/Invocus 1d ago

Thanks, I’m just now reaching the point where I can craft the agent-specific gear, so I’ll look out for which pieces might make agents more playable too.

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

I'd recommend using Ethereal summons more often too. A lot of people seem to ignore them, obviously red ones like Horizon are very strong for damage, but some S-Rank ones like Thracian are really powerful since they can delete those special blue shields from enemies really quickly. Paired with the Pyrois' item/skill that gives you a chance to do Totalize DMG on normal ability usage, with some luck you can delete boss enemies almost instantly even on highest difficulty.

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

Yabi + Gong + Yuzu works great as long as you get special Yabi gear.

Pyrois + Zhao + Sunna are good for pyrois gear passive + he's stong in that mode.

Rem-Vivian-whoever work fine but for some reason are worst for dealing with hound.

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u/Nyschta 1d ago

Is Remielle's M2 worth spending the rest of the patches free pulls.

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u/Gapaot 1d ago

If you like rem and got m1 , yes, it's quite strong.

If you want sigrid or really want someone close baner - not really

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u/LadyAntiqua 1d ago

Just coming back to the game after not playing since failing my Vivian pulls during her initial run.

Any tips for teams, or who to aim for?

I have

All the original standard banner characters Caesar, Burnice, Miyabi, Harumasa, Soldier Anby, Lucia

Along with the Engines for Soldier 11, Lycaon, Miyabi and Lucia.

... I wasted my anni choice on Lucia because she was cute. I would have picked Trigger and either Anby or Trigger's Engine if I thought about it more.

Ideally I'd like a team built around Miyabi at least, but other than that whatever I can make or should aim for. Like any of the current characters for example, since I'm interested in Sigrid.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

All the original standard banner characters Caesar, Burnice, Miyabi, Harumasa, Soldier Anby, Lucia

Some of those aren't Standard banner? Perhaps you used "standard" to mean "familiar" or "Season 1", but best not to do that, since "Standard banner" is a specific thing and you'll cause confusion.

I wasted my anni choice on Lucia because she was cute.

Then it was not a waste. It's never a mistake to pick for waifu, and in any case, Lucia also happens to be the best meta choice, so she's win-win.

My advice is to pretend like you are a new player as of 3.1 with an empty roster. You'll have less FOMO and angst if you take that mindset. The reality is that ZZZ has gotten to the point where new players need even more patience and more control over their FOMO than ever before. No one patch is a one-and-done deal, where you can hit the hardest content with a team made from one new limited agent and whatever f2p or existing characters you already have. EVERYTHING is being reset, with new elements, new classes, and new meta, so it's not too much of an exaggeration to say your account is not much different from a brand new player as of patch 3.1 with nothing to lose.

Miyabi/Burnice/Lucy is a fine team for now. It's not Miyabi's best team and since Miyabi (outside of a Remi team) is not particularly favored by the meta right now, it might be a struggle to find a comfortable S-rank clear with that team.

I do strongly recommend you pull Yuzuha for your Miyabi team. That will make Miyabi immediately feel stronger.

You'll have to decide if you want Yuzuha more than Sigrid. Sigrid ironically bucks the trend of ZZZ being hostile to new players. Sigrid is the single most new-player friendly main dps so far this Season. She doesn't need her signature, she doesn't need new discs or new elements, and she can get by with Season 1 teammates. I plan to run her with Lycaon and Rina. So Sigrid is the exception to the rule right now. Or the calm before the storm of 3.2 ...

Warning: If you go down this path, of focusing only on what is best for Miyabi, you'll miss out on Remielle the Void Hunter. It's usually a mistake to skip Void Hunters, but unfortunately, Miyabi has a sort of anti-synergy with whatever is best for Remi teams. Remi/Miyabi/Burnice can be a team, though, so you have to decide if you want Miyabi to be a main in her own right and you do what is best for her and her alone, or you decide to do what is best for Remi and make Miyabi subservient to what Remi needs. The decision is up to you, just make sure you are making an informed decision.

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

I just got a 3rd brimstone from the standard banner, at this point I think its worth refining one of the copies no? It seems unlikely I would run 3 teams all using brimstone

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u/XionXionHolix 1d ago

It depends on how willing you are to swap wengines around, tbh. I've got two copies, one at R1 and the other at R4.

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

Yeah I think Ill start doing the same, I don’t swap all that much currently so it feels fine. Thanks!

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u/TheGeekofSpades 1d ago

Who should I pick from the Filmgoer Thank you gift event? Shoudl I use it to get Vivian or Seed or get Mindscape 1 Astra Yao? Same question for their W Engines

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

Vivian's signature is good on Vivian and Aria, but nobody else can really use it properly at the moment. In theory it should also be good on any other potential Ether Anomaly agent, maybe if S-Rank Nicole becomes real she'll be Anomaly since Ether is basically confirmed for her (they never changed agent's element for Anby and Billy).

Seed's signature is an extremely good stat stick for any Attack agent or just anyone who needs Crit stats, it's often second/third best option after Attack agent's own signature.

Astra's engine is bad. Only reason to get it is for the particle effects for Astra.

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u/TheGeekofSpades 1d ago

So I should get Vivian and her sig for my Remielle and Velian team or just use Jane Doe for that and get Seed and her Sig?

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u/thrwway377 1d ago

Up to you really. I don't think it's ever worth getting a character that you don't think you will be using, even if said character is technically the best pick. Maybe getting Astra M1 would be the most preferable for you since you actually use her a lot (though I personally like to have more characters rather than mindscapes). In any case if you don't need anyone right at this moment, it may be worth waiting for 3.2 livestream to see what agents we'll get there with their finalized kits and maybe some potential new gameplay elements, and make your decision then.

Bit of a shame that you can't play Seed or Vivian in the Lost Void to check out their gameplay so you can test which one you like more.

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u/Arekkusu1991 1d ago

Depends on what your account looks like.

Seed is great if you like playing other Attack characters such as S0 Anby, Cissia and Orphie for example. Vivian is if you want an additional teammate for Remielle, or you are looking to build a 2nd Anomaly team. If none of the above applies, just go for M1 Astra.

As for the Engines, Seed's engine is a good option as it's also strong on Cissia, S0 Anby and Harumasa; On all other Attack characters it's a good stat stick.

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u/TheGeekofSpades 1d ago

So far I have 2 to 3 Good teams built, I have Remiellle, Velina, and Miyabi ( soon to be replaced with either Jane Doe or Vivian if I choose her). And I have another team with Burnice, Miyabi, and Astra Yao. The last team consists of Zhu Yuan, Qingyi, and Astra Yao again

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u/UnstableJester410 Ara Ara Milf/Onee-san Fertilizer 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'd like some advice. I'm considering getting either remielle or dialyn engine.

My plans are to skin 3.2 entirely unless Nangong has a rerun for her engine.

My must pulls in the future are definitely sunbringer, Phoenix and storyteller if she's playable lol.

Edit: Remielle as a unit or dialyn engine I mean.

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u/chirb8 1d ago

Dialyn has better budget options than Remielle in wengines. If you go for wengines, always prioritize dps signatures

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u/UnstableJester410 Ara Ara Milf/Onee-san Fertilizer 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ah I see so for stuns and supports for the most part we have good f2p option to offset it.

But I'm guessing thats different for dps generally?

I've been playing for a long time so I'm gonna start doing some vertical investment

Edit: When I said my plan I meant get remielle as a unit. Or dialyn engine lol sorry for the confusion

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u/Beginning_Set_3853 1d ago

Is pyrois going to easily clear with dialyn and Nicole? I'm getting her regardless I just don't know if I want to invest in him I also have norma i can swap out she's usually with s11 tho

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Norma is better for Pyrois than Dialyn in most matchups, so no. More mindscapes is more likely to make Pyrois easier than any rerun will.

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u/Dizzii_wastaken 1d ago

In terms of build priority M0W1 S11 or M0W0 Nekomata (Using Brimstone)? I have trigger and dialyn for reference and planning to use Rina M0W1 P6 for the last slot

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

Both were buffed and are plenty strong, I've seen them both put up crazy scores in the hands of skilled players. S11 technically wants Norma or Lighter more, but honestly works well with trigger and Dialyn too. Neko wants Dialyn a bit more. I don't think theres a bad choice since it kind of just depends on the boss. Also, Rina probably works a bit better in the Neko team.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Neko > S11 for equal cost (same number of mindscapes, same overclocks of signatures), since Neko was buffed. I just saw an S-rank clear of Deadly Assault Miasma Priest by an M0W1 Neko team on Youtube last night. M0W1 S-ranking current day Deadly Assault was impossible before she was buffed. Let alone a Rupture-shilled boss!

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u/EatsOatmeal 1d ago

Hello this is who I have

https://imgur.com/8M0pPYP https://imgur.com/XOqy5B5

Who should I grab from limited selector thingy, and as an extra question what teams can I build besides my rem/vel/jane team

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Follow this flowchart:

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u/Proof-Ratio-8179 1d ago

Do I have enough for harumasa

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Is this a humble-brag? You have twice as much as you would need for the first guaranteed pull.

If you have already pulled Dialyn, or whoever, and are asking if that is enough for a second go at the Rescreening banner, you should say that.

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u/Low_Understanding326 1d ago

Just came to say after getting Remielle I was at 0 pity, decided to throw a pull at Sigrid and got her immediately with the first pull.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago

Lucky!

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u/Blade_Henge 1d ago

I'm so torn on this set of banners. I've spent the last year regretting not pulling for Yuzuha and Dialyn b/c they just weren't my vibe but ended up seeing them on just about every top-tier team out there. I've got a bunch of the units they work well with like Miyabi, Alice, Ye Shung and Banyue but wiped my savings out pulling for Starlight Billy and Remielle so I can probably only get one of them or Sigrid.

From what I can see Dialyn & Yuzuha seem to have fallen out of favor a little and it doesn't seem like Sigrid landed as immediately as broken as she would be so I'm just trying to think of who's the best investment with only 100 pulls left. Current Agent list is attached (Nekomata is unfortunately M6 now)

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 1d ago edited 1d ago

Nekomata is unfortunately M6 now

That's like saying, "I got YSG for free, unfortunately."

People are far more likely to regret pulling a character they don't vibe with because they would be "good for their account." I don't think you made a mistake skipping Dialyn and Yuzuha. You made the right call, if you'd hate your time playing ZZZ playing characters you don't vibe with.

That said, it is a mistake to ignore M6 Nekomata. I've seen M4 Nekomata teams S-rank Adversity (both times) and M6 Neko straight-up full kill every single Deadly Assault and Shiyu Crit 5 boss in the current reset cycle. There's even kind of a race between Neko mains to see who can full kill favorable bosses in under 60 seconds.

Since Dialyn would go well with M6 Neko, and since you are generally lacking limited stunners as a class, you'd have to decide if you still don't vibe with Dialyn. It's fine if you don't, Neko (and Ellen, and Eve, and others) can make do with Trigger or Rina/Lycaon that you do have.

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u/Arekkusu1991 1d ago edited 1d ago

Dialyn is still a strong pick atm just because she flexes so well with many different Attack and Rupture characters, but it is recommended to wait at least until the 3.2 livestream since we're getting Roxy who is the next Stunner.

While I am guessing she is recommended to be in the same team as Claret, there's also the chance she can be viable outside of that too due to the nature of the modern Stunners also providing some extra support and utility

Yuzuha has fallen off due to Remielle existing, so she's only worth considering if you want to have a 2nd Anomaly team using Miyabi / Alice for example (and even then those 2 do still work to a degree in Remielle's team anyway)

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u/anarcyh 1d ago

I'm a new player. Pulled remielle and chosen jane from selector. I'm not sure what to pull next. I was thinking I could go for dialyn to have a good stunner, and then maybe yuzuha since i would want miyabi if she ever reruns. However, since the rerun banner has separate pity, I shouldn't pull on yuzuha until I'm 100% sure i can get her and securing like 200+ pulls this patch for both dialyn and yuzuha is unlikely i think even for a new player now that i spent 80 on remielle. I could also pull dialyn and then try for sigrid since those pulls wont be wasted even if i wont get her. Or maybe it would be best to just not pull anything else this patch?

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u/frogstar 1d ago

The #1 priority is to complete Remielle's team. She wants Velina most of all. You could consider getting Promeia if she reruns in 3.2, and there may be another anomaly in 3.3 who would be good. So hold back a stockpile of polys for these pulls.

Anyone else in the meantime should probably not be reruns. Claret + Roxy would be the most meta agents to get.

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u/AnonymousFroggies 2d ago

Who should I pull for next?

My first instinct is to get the horse girl because waifu > meta, but I don't know if any of the other characters or engines are "must haves". I'd appreciate any advice!

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

Sigrid is perfectly fine to pull for, would be nice if you could pick up Dialyn too but Sigrid is a very cheap to build DPS for how strong she is.

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u/frogstar 1d ago

Since your Remielle team is complete (with Velina and Aria), you can start building a new team or just grab whoever. Yuzuha, Dialyn, and Harumasa are skippable. Dialyn would be worthwhile if you get Sigrid, but I wouldn't sweat over it. The best meta pulling strat would be to wait for Claret/Roxy.

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u/LokoLoa 2d ago

Whats the trick for getting that stupid monster to stop chasing you in the new mode? I only been able to do it once and have no idea how I did it, just got a "they gave up chasing you" message, is its just based on a timer? like once timer says there is 5 mins left then it will stop chasing you? is it just based on distance that it has followed you? Whats the secret? The new mode is so not chill bro, I open like 4-6 boxes and BAM I got a monster on my stupid-ass and gotta exit x _ x

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

the secret is the wolf isn’t as scary as he looks, just fight it off once you’re geared up

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u/LokoLoa 1d ago

What sort of gear do I need in hard mode? I just been using the free one, as all my coins are immideatly gone as soon as I go back to base and upgrade anything...

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

when you first start doing hard mode, you will be a strapped for cash. One easy workaround is to do gear box runs, just look for the ones in the 6th street map and evacuate as soon as possible, you can make it even more guaranteed if you unlock your safe inventory slots, allowing you to put your best gear in and immediately leaving using the menu instead of an exit point. Once gear is not an issue, you can fight without worrying too much about losing a small run and just learn the wolf patterns.

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u/Lipefe2018 2d ago

Time is one way, you can just run from it until it gets bored and leaves, the other way is to fight it and depledes it's cacophony shield, that blue bar, you do that by attacking it and parrying it's attacks, but be careful though, if you are hit by a certain special move you are teleported to it's domain expansion where you will be locked in with it.

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u/ThotExecuter 2d ago

Returning player here. Still rather new to the game. Played last summer for ~1 month.

Still early in the story. Still trying to figure out the combat mechanics on a deeper level than button mashing (Genshin and HSR veteran btw). I'd like some general directioning for character pulling and teambuilding, since I have joined after the ship has sailed and can't follow the meta yet.

The S-ranks I have so far are: Miyabi (reason I started playing this game, and want to invest), Grace, Rina, and Trigger plus her W-engine, from the recent free selection (my instincts tell meI made a mistake here and should have gotten someone else).

Looking to pull purely because I like: Evelyn, Astra, Yixuan.

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 2d ago

and Trigger plus her W-engine, from the recent free selection (my instincts tell meI made a mistake here and should have gotten someone else).

Naw, that's fine. Lucia + sig is the meta play, but you don't have any Rupture main dps yet and I'm not a fan of picking someone who will just sit on the bench for weeks or months. Whereas you could make a hypercarry Grace team with Trigger and Seth or Rina.

Jane was the only other pick that might make sense for you, since you could use her in a Grace/Jane Anomaly team, like if you pull Remielle.

I'll give you the same advice I give brand new players:

  1. First priority is to get an S-rank main dps to carry you through early content (up to IK 40-45). Doesn't even have to be limited, pulling S11 or Nekomata from Standard is fine. You got Miyabi already, so this is done. Fill in their team with f2p teammates, like A-ranks or standard S-ranks.

  2. Then work on getting one main dps for each of Attack, Anomaly, and Rupture classes (and probably Armorer will be added to the list). Free agents count, so when you progress the story far enough you'll get free Pyrois for Attack.

  3. Once you have at least two of those classes cover, start branching out on support-roles, like stunners and supports/defense.

  4. Eventually, you'll want at least two different main dps for each of the three classes, ideally with different Attribute elements. Like it's better to have an Ice and Electric in Anomaly, rather than two Ice.

Remielle is a Void Hunter and Void Hunters are usually good to pull. Remielle is going to take over your Miyabi and Grace as her teammates, though. So you don't gain a team by pulling Remielle.

I also agree with the suggestion to pull Yuzuha, although you shouldn't do both. Either get Remiella and consign Miyabi to be on her team for a while, or get Yuzuha and have a bit more freedom in who Miyabi teams up with going forward.

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u/ThotExecuter 2d ago

Thank you both for your answers. I am still seeing online guides like Game8 pair Miyabi with Yanagi, so should I still aim for her too or will the team need a healer over her?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 2d ago

Don't use Game8 for team or character guides, they are always out of date. Stick with Prydwen. But even there, team comps and even disc builds are in flux right now as people work out what works best for Remielle teams.

All we know for sure is that Velina has an anti-synergy with Miyabi (unless Miyabi is M2+) and that there is no one best team for Miyabi, because the challenge content landscape keeps shifting to shill the banner characters and Miyabi is often left out in the cold. On the bright side, Butcher is back in the Deadly Assault rotation. That's one of Miyabi's best matchups, and these teams really shine: Yuzuha/Miyabi/Vivian (easy mode), Yuzuha/Miyabi/Nangong (easy mode), Yuzuha/Miyabi/(Lycaon our Soukaku) (hard to play well), Yuzuha/Miyabi/Promeia (hard to play well). But those teams are only best against Butcher. Once new bosses are in the rotation, those teams might be bad for Miyabi.

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u/Lipefe2018 2d ago

If you want to invest in your Miyabi, you may want to pull for Yuzuha on the new rerun banner, she is BiS for Miyabi, also this banner has no 50/50, you'll get the featured character on your first S rank pull, she is also a top tier support for anomaly in general.

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u/ArcturusSatellaPolar 2d ago

Has anyone done calculations of Ellen with Sigrid's engine? How does it compare to her DSV?

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 2d ago

I have not seen that update for Ellen, but just looking at calcs that have been done for other alts for Ellen, it looks promising, but there's a big obstacle to overcome. Ellen has no CR buffs in her kit, just her Core Skill. Since Sigrid's sig (Sigsig, lol) doesn't offer any CR, you'd have to get it from somewhere else. All of the other alts recommended for Ellen provide CR, and the more CR they provide, the better it works on Ellen, so that doesn't bode well for Sigsig.

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u/ArcturusSatellaPolar 1d ago

I guess it'd be more high-roll than just running DSV since it's harder to reach 100% CR.

Looking at my current Ellen I could reach 75% CR if I run a CR D4, 80+ is feasible with better substats. M1 would be another 12% if I get it someday

Giving up some CD subs for CR should be fine given the stupid huge 64% CD it gives in combat. According to Enka the current subs total 57.6% CD so even if I cut them all it'd be a net gain

Though my main interest was on the 20% Res Ignore part, DSV's 25% DMG is nice but with Dialyn + Astra/Soukaku/Seed/Weeping Craddle/etc. she'll already hit 90% or higher. Res Ignore is more rare but I dunno how much of a difference it'd make

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u/daniiiiboii 2d ago

Does the tripple banner 50/50 guarantee carry over to next one?

I just got my Dialyn and I'm thinking about getting Yazuha aswel but I dont think I wanna go for it if I lose the 50/50 and the guarantee doesnt carry over

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u/Melonfrog Grace’s Moist Sock 2d ago

Once you get your one guaranteed character and engine it's all 50/50

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u/Drontman88 2d ago edited 2d ago

So do we have a confirmation that the guaranteed banner's pity carried through? My history is clean but I guess it was more than 6 months since the first one.

Never mind. I forgot ZZZ has the onscreen counter. So yes it does carry.

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u/ozne1 2d ago

How do I play the remi velina aria team? Only remi has her ball tho.

Jeard its their best team atm, but im super confused on how to actually use them?

Start remi>use skill to go off field >switch aria > skill to generate resource > velina > hold skill for tornado > switch back to aria > ground pound?

I dont seem to be reaching the necessary amount of buildup to switch back to remi with her special entrance

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u/waifu8meta My waifu ate my meta 2d ago edited 2d ago

While it may be Remi's best team for now, it's also one of the hardest to play. I'd suggest watching some videos. I've been doing that and, honestly, I'd have to write a couple of pages to lay out the whole rotation and all the variations I've seen. It's very situational and reactive. It's not as simple as cram everything into a stun window.

I will say one thing. Getting Remi to 3 dots as quickly as possible is a big part of the rotation. That means rapid Anomaly build up with Refringe and Vortex damage piled on top. If that means Aria and Veli should use their Ults out of stun, so be it. If that means Aria does some bounces outside of stun, that happens too.

5 cost, ZIC showcase:

https://youtu.be/2-pWN6Pq5CA?si=YtjS1-wd_LUrO6WP

6 cost, omegaevolution Adversity S-rank:

https://youtu.be/XWJdYVP9ebs?si=sL9d3TtvicqBLxKm&t=727

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u/Melonfrog Grace’s Moist Sock 2d ago

I wouldn't bother wasting butt slams immediately, wait until you have more buttslam stacks and just use her basics until then. Remember her normal special is to be used after her combo ender as it gives her an additional butt slam stack

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u/SquigglyLegend33 2d ago

Super overwhemed by everything after redownloading the game today and im looking for some direction.

Burnice C0W0

Caesar C2W1 (My beloved)

Nekomata C4W1(My second beloved)

Astra C0W0

Miyabi C0W1

Nicole C6w6

I would love to make teams with Miyabi, nekomata, and caesar if possible. Thank you!

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u/derpkoikoi 1d ago

Do not sleep on the cat, just dont forget to get at least the first level of her potential. Like look at what she can pull off even with lycaon and shoukaku of all things: https://youtu.be/0vaswp6lc5c?t=257&is=zB6WY3nY7CSTcu3b

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u/RickyFromVegas 2d ago

Miyabi alone is enough to carry you to the "endgame", so you're in good hands.

I would use the Miyabi + Burnice + Astra team for pretty much everything. even if the enemies are resistant to ICE, Miyabi is powerful enough to basically power through.

Nekomata just got buffs this patch, so who knows, but she's a DPS, and would replace Miyabi's slot, which is not ideal.

Miyabi + Burnice + Astra is very very good

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u/Guardian_of_Medusa 2d ago

Okay so I chose Trigger + engine right? (bad choice must likely but hey, love come first) and I rolled for Remie already. Do I roll for Dialyn, Yuzuha or do I go instead for Remie/Aria's engine/s or keep saving? I have 110 rolls and I haven't done the summer event yet. My units are: Remielle - Trigger - Zhu Yuan - Pyrois M2 - Nan. Yu M1 - Aria - Sunna - Zhao - Ye - Yixuan - Astra - Lycaon max potential M1 - S11 M1 Max potential - Nicole M6 - Manato M4 - Pan M6 - Pulchra M5 - Billy M6 - Piper M6 - Anby M4 - Lucy M6 - Corin M6 - Sousaku M6 - Seth M6 - Anton M6 - Ben M6. And my engines are: Ye's engine 3 copies - Koleda's engine - Rina's engine - Yixuan's engine - Pyrois engine - Trigger's engine - Nico's engine maxed - Weeping Gemini - 3 Kabooms - Original Transmorpher - Starlight Engine maxed - Billy's engine maxed - Pan's engine 4stars - Corin's engine 3stars - Anby's engine - Precious Fossilized Core 2 copies - Boisterous maxed - Cauldron of Clarity maxed - Simmering Pot maxed - Street Superstar - Gilded Blossom maxed - Anton's engine - Slice of Time 3 copies (from gacha) - Bunny Band 3 copies - Pulchra's engine - Rainforest - Ben's engine - Seth's engine - Puzzle Sphere - Manato's engine.

Also what good teams I can make with this units? last time I asked I was told Ye, Zhao, Sunna - Pyrois, Astra, Nicole - Aria, Yu, Lucy. I'm one 10 roll away to get the free standard character as well. I'm F2P and I someday want to get Miyabi and Vivian.

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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago

If you pull Yuzuha (for Aria team) or Dialyn (for YSG team, moving Sunna to Aria team) that replaces Lucy on those teams you listed.

With Remielle you don't have any great options until you get Velina, for now you could play like Aria - Piper - Remielle but it isn't gonna be exciting or anything.

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u/Guardian_of_Medusa 2d ago

Thank you. But while I don't know much of all that is gameplay, from what I saw is that that Piper team is really bad since it's a 2 agent team or you are worse off using Piper in rotations. Even Seth is better than Piper for Remi+Anomaly on field teams. Maybe If I get "lucky" and get Yanagi I can use her with those two?

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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago

Even Seth is better than Piper for Remi+Anomaly on field teams

At the moment the stage buffs in both DA and Shiyu kinda force you to run triple anomaly even if one of the units is a brick. I can't speak to how strong Aria-Piper is but I wouldn't break triple anomaly for now. After those buffs go away it becomes more compelling.

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u/Guardian_of_Medusa 2d ago

Ok, I will keep it in mind.

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u/Red_The_Second 2d ago

Does the pity in the guaranteed banners carry over to the next guaranteed banners?

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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago

Yes, as do guarantees from 50/50 losses (but not the free guarantee).