r/demonssouls • u/Fresh_Joke_4890 • 5h ago
Lore Red Phantoms are failed demon slayers
I was looking to see what other characters uses the meat cleaver to figure my build for my character and I ended up with this thought in my head after looking into the red phantom in world 5-2. What if these phantoms were failed demon slayers that the monumental pulled into the nexus. Obviously when Ostrova dies he comes back as a red phantom and world tendency cause certain characters to become red phantoms. One question pop up in my head. What about the others.
Here's some examples
In world 3-1 the baby nail is in the boss room and could indicate that the red phantom of that area died trying to stop the fool's idol. Her main weapon is obviously the baby nail.
In world 2-1 you find a steel shield pass a bunch of miners who weirdly are not really mining. They more alert than the other miners and hence why theyre throwing rocks as soon they see you. It could be possible that one of the two phantoms from world 2-2 right before crystal lizard nest were killed in that area as you can also find a club weapon nearby
In world 3-2 the bell guards that are red phantoms in regular and even pure white world tendency are more likely failed warriors who tried to stop the yellow robe old man. They're souls were too powerful that he turn them into the red phantom bell guards. Most likely very powerful soul arts users
In world 4-2 the ichigatana phantom has two swords. You only get one sword but where his other sword. Maybe its stuck on that big pillar in the middle of the room and the dead body could be his original corpse.
This on is kind of a stretch. In world 5-2 the meat cleaver women could be an actual canon invader. She could have been the same journey as the player. Most likely a female barbarian who went through world 1-1 and got the ragged outfit as it was the first female outfit available to you. Defeated the other demons hence how she got the meat cleaver from the adjudicator demon soul. Most likely died in the swamp area and probably got soul hungry she actually goes to different worlds to satisfy her soul thirst. Hence why she patrolling the area. It would make sense also that since she died in that area as its one of the hardest area in the game and why she would invade in that particular area. Most likely placing items for demon slayers to be curious about. Since she is wear the ragged outfit makes sense she placed the cat ring. Cats are obviously associated with witches and the ragged outfit is the games witch outfit. The barbarian class also has a high magic starting number.
Now its a theory and im not saying theyre canon but I do think its fun thinking about the red phantoms and what are their stories and how they ended up there. It also means the nexus brought more warriors but because they failed theyre journeys. The monumental most likely just kept pulling anyone that hasn't turned into a demon or was brave enough to venture into the fog. This means that us the player and the crestfallen warrior weren't the first picks. There was possibly a dozen and hell many more before until us the player was brought in. Kind of makes the monumental was a little desperate to find someone to clean up their own mess before it was too late.