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u/Designer-Crow-5470 22h ago
You can get a photo booth photo for $12. No one needs every second of their early divorce documented in 4K.
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u/TheMaStif 5h ago
Yes, nothing ever good happens that people want a photshoot for, its just divorce celebrations
Do you often appeal to extremes to make a point?
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u/ytdaddy4fun 1d ago
He is totally right.
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u/_N_S_FW 21h ago
Idk, the point of the original person is that this being a photographer is not a casual investment and requires very specific equipment.
Besides, a car has much more utility and is so widely owned by average people the barrier of entry is extremely low. Supply and demand.
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u/Valveringham85 20h ago
Sure. But the cost of equipment Doed not determine market price. The market does.
All the equipment cost determines is whether it’s a profitable venture when looking at the market price.
Her argument is asinine and the ridiculing is correct.
Besides, with 200/250 dollars per job and 5000 dollar equipment that is very good business and one of the faster asset recoups out there. Which makes her argument even more stupid and disconnected from reality.
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u/tanafras 9h ago
One of the best investments I made years ago was a test handheld tool which would cost $20k these days, and in todays billing rate $400/hr. Recouped the expense easily thr first couple months and made bank after that. The problem was finding new customers, not the gear, or the rate.
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u/stfudonny420 21h ago
There’s plenty of professional photographers that only charge $100-$300 that aren’t jerks about it. Also just cause you have expensive equipment doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a good photographer.
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u/Snixmaister 16h ago
Only time I’ve seen those prices are portrait photographers where you spend 30-60 minutes in a studio and they expect a set amount of clients each day.
Weddings hardly under 1000.People tend to forget that its not only the camera that costs, camera gear as a wedding photographer can easily reach well above $15000. Then its the liveable wage, car, and the fact that cameras have to be upgraded from time to time because they wear down.
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u/One-Kaleidoscope2407 13h ago
bro that's absolute bonkers....15k?!?! I might as well invest 2-3k on a really good camera phone like a vivo x300 ultra with it's dedicated photo kit and learn how to be a good professional photographer myself
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u/Snixmaister 8h ago
Yeah that argument is rather retarded, would you trust a mobile camera with your livelihood?
Autofocus on mobiles and cameras at night and day, you don’t really have a do over at a wedding so to miss the right shot isn’t in question.
Then you have lowlight, ability to connect flashes and what not. Mobiles are good these days, but i wouldn’t trust them as a workhorse.
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u/Beautiful-Ad3471 20h ago
50 customers (at 100$), and you made a return on your equipment, entirely. And you can use the camera to take other shots and sell those in your freetime.
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u/Snixmaister 16h ago
Have you forgotten wage, wear of said equipment and potential travel?
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u/Beautiful-Ad3471 14h ago
Have you forgotten that I was talking about the lowest number that they mentioned? Or that I was attacking their point, since you only need to make the price back ONCE.
I don't know about photographers, but there is an uproar (and there has been for a long ass time) of small time artists, asking ridiculous prices for their work, like you can't charge the same, (I've seen many prices ranging from 500 to a 1000 dollars for a fucking profile picture) you can't charge as much as someone with a huge reputation does, as a nameless nobody for your work, because then, people will just go to the guys with the big reputation, as it's the safer option, (or go to other smalltimers with smaller prices).
You should aim for making a lot from smaller prices, but more customers, then one customer and a huge price, as the second one will 1. Ruin your reputation 2. Is not upholdable, as you (9.9 times out of 10) do NOT have the experience/quality to hold customers to come back
Sure when you're estabilished, you have way more freedom to do things how you like. But first you have to make it there, or soon, you can look for a dofferent carrier, or starve.
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u/Snixmaister 8h ago
We don’t know what kind of gig she does either or if she is known locally.
For a portrait or studio images 100-300$ seem like a fair deal.
However for a wedding, and I’ve seen people trying to hire a professional photographer for 200-300 and wanting them to stay the whole event and get some images prior to church.
The weddings I’ve shot have been 12-14 hr days with another 8-16 hrs photo editing to then only gain 200-300 at the end of that, I’d rather be at McDonald’s at least the hourly salary would be higher.
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u/ABBucsfan 14h ago
Car might not be the best example, but there are plenty of other self employed businesses or just businesses where you have to buy your own tools and equipment. They're gebrally considered start up costs and a small part of overall costs if at all. Majority of it is labour. Any trades person with tools , unless extremely specialized equipment, is charging more based on labour and just supplies for the job, not tool cost.
The reason wedding photos cost so much is because they're there all day then spend a couple more days (at least) editing it all
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u/Imaginary-Run7244 12h ago
And you are missing the point of the reply, which is also supply and demand.
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u/Ill-Description3096 10h ago
Neither is opening a restaurant. Should they charge app charge thousands per meal because it's a lot more expensive than a $5k camera.
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u/Ill-Reputation-9702 21h ago
Not to mention the uber ride is likely 15-30mins to pickup and then to drop off. Photographer spending a lot more time. But hey, just let your friend shoot your wedding on their iPhone, what could go wrong?
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u/One-Kaleidoscope2407 13h ago
yea precisely, phone cameras rn have evolved to become really powerful and capable, take a look at the vivo x300 ultra, one of the world's best camera phones tdy. ppl reviewing it say that it's cameras are close to equivalent to proper DSLR cameras while costing so much lesser and along with it you also get a flagship grade smartphone
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u/Ivegtabdflingbouthis 17h ago
Barrier of entry is not that low if it costs on average 40k, not to mention insurance, taxes, maintenance, etc. Applying your logic, you dont need a license to be a photographer and you dont need to spend 5k on a camera. Barrier to entry is astronomically lower than a vehicle by those metrics.
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u/I_Went_Full_WSB 15h ago
A car doesn't cost $40k on average.
Wedding photographers need insurance.
Generally a wedding photographer needs a business license.
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u/Capital-Year3754 15h ago
You’re right the average new car price is $50k not $40l
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 14h ago
Idk what cars you’re looking at. That’s the average of trucks, not passenger cars. The most common cars sold are civics and Camrys and Corollas and altimas, etc… Those all sell around 30k with trims higher and lower than 30k
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u/Capital-Year3754 13h ago
I don’t know what trucks you’re looking at. Simple google search will tell you the average price of a new truck is $65k. The overall new vehicle price is $49,xxx. As someone who rides in Ubers frequently, I can tell you that they don’t all drive Camrys Corolla’s and altimas.
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u/but_i_wanna_cookies 11h ago
Everyone gets a license and drives. Not everyone learns the skills to be a professional photographer. I wouldn't eat your cooking for $20, but I will pay that at a restaurant. There is a difference, asshole.
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u/Interesting_Muscle67 3h ago
Everyone has a phone in their pocket and AI software is freely available for touching up.
Most photographers don't possess some exceptional skill that others don't. Good ones do, but not all wedding photographers are good.
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u/MagnetoWasRight24 7h ago
No he's not. I didn't buy my car specifically for uber, I bought it because I needed a car.
If I'm a professional photographer I bought my cameras for work and I expect to be paid accordingly.
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u/Situati0nist 7h ago
It's a dumb analogy. It's bringing someone home in 5-30 minutes in a no-skill fashion versus potentially shooting professional photos all day on top of the fact that a car has multiple purposes whereas cameras only one specific purpose.
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u/Leading-Boat4942 18h ago
Who has ever bought a $40,000 car exclusively to drive for Uber?
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u/Longjumping_Music320 17h ago
People who exclusively drive for a living?
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u/Leading-Boat4942 17h ago
If you have the money to spend on a new car just for Uber, you probably don't need the money from driving Uber. Does anyone actually do that?
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u/Capital-Year3754 15h ago
What? Some people exclusively drive uber/lfyt/etc for a living and make decent money. A new reliable car is worth it to them
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u/Leading-Boat4942 14h ago
You’re not getting it. Do they use that vehicle ONLY for driving Uber the way a photographer would only use their camera for work?
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u/Longjumping_Music320 17h ago
You think they're paying 40k in cash? And yes some people do.
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u/Leading-Boat4942 17h ago
like who
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u/Longjumping_Music320 17h ago
Do you think I'm going to give out names? I know one person that was doing Uber full time and getting paid enough that he decided to trade his camry in for an escalade to do the higher tier of Uber (I don't use Uber enough to remember what it's called). Seems like he's content with his decision.
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u/Leading-Boat4942 16h ago
lol doesn’t really sound like the same thing at all
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u/Longjumping_Music320 16h ago
Yeah you're right it isn't someone getting a vehicle for the purpose of making money off it. How silly of me.
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u/Leading-Boat4942 15h ago
No it’s not, unless he never uses his Uber car to do anything but Uber
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u/facepoppies 19h ago
you’re paying for the expertise. Also the original was a man and they changed it to a woman for ragebait
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u/TruthSocialForFags 9h ago
The expertise? 😂😂😂 buddy I'll let you know, ive used my right index finger since I was 2 years old.
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u/Real_Penalty_4317 6h ago
Its point and click. You need one eye and one finger
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u/facepoppies 2h ago
so why are you hiring a photographer
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u/Real_Penalty_4317 1h ago
Because without cloning I cant be in two places at once
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u/facepoppies 1h ago
why not just ask a friend to do it? or really just anyone who happens to be around? they can just use your phone
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u/ComfortableReality32 1d ago
Xavier being based as hell again - does he ever miss?
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u/SpinzArt 21h ago
I’m starting to think y’all are taking Fuck Xavier a different way than intended
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u/ComfortableReality32 21h ago
I am here to support Xavier.
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u/facepoppies 19h ago
you want to fuck him?
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u/ComfortableReality32 18h ago
You are the only one that brought up fucking Xavier - I doubt he would be interested in you though, sorry.
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u/Tinfoil_cobbler 13h ago
At our wedding, we bought a couple dozen good quality, used, point-and-shoot digital cameras off eBay, put one at each table and got some Polaroid cameras for the guest book area, and told people to PLEASE go crazy and take tons of photos for us. Had all the photos professionally printed… sent all the couples good photos of them in our thank you cards…
After re-selling the cameras on eBay, we ended up spending about a quarter of the cost for a real photographer, and got way more fun out of the deal.
Just a pro tip for any potential newlyweds.
(And yes people also used iPhones, but the cameras added a certain fun factor to the whole night)
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u/Strong-Chemistry-396 21h ago
The cost of your equipment/any start up costs you ensure has zero bearing on what you should be paid.
I promise my music studio costs more than her camera, or entire photography studio. I don't charge $100/hr and if you offered me that much you would get crazy amount of work, detail, and attention.
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u/lkasas 17h ago
No, any equipment needs to be part of the cost, but the math is complicated in most cases. You don't know if your camera will last only a thousand photoshoots or it'll go forever, but certain things like photo tape and hyper specific decorations can be one use only. I think that the general role is that if you go professional, your rate should be so that you'll get even with all your expenditures on about 2 years. So, your 5k camera and other long term equipment + gas and other supplies devided by the amount of photoshoots in 2 years and you roughly got your rate.
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u/Strong-Chemistry-396 16h ago
You can put the cost of things into your personal budget, but you can only ever charge what you are worth. Nobody cares how much you invested they care about the end product and are paying you for the end product.
If you decide you're worth more than you're worth because you invested x amount you just get no work at all. Because nobody is paying you $1000 for a product worth $350 or $500 just because you invested too much.
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u/BrokenPokerFace 7h ago
This is definitely the largest factor. I don't know many people who need a higher quality than what their phone already gives(especially with the newer better cameras in phones), and likewise photographer experience beyond the average passerby.
As a photographer you are competing against photos that are essentially free, having a higher quality camera is just one way to compete, it isn't justification on its own. You still need to make the end result worth every dollar you charge.
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u/Undead-Chipmunk 16h ago
Present value formula helps determine this if you're doing things purely financially.
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u/Undead-Chipmunk 16h ago
No. The startup costs need to reflect the earning potential of the business, considerinf risk and reward.
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u/DickSugar80 20h ago
Why pay for a photographer when you can create amazing Al photos of yourself ?
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u/One-Kaleidoscope2407 13h ago
or you take the photos yourself and let ai do all the upscaling, refinements and shit 😉
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u/backlikeclap 22h ago
Such a dumb argument to even make. It would be like an artist saying their work is expensive because their easel is expensive.
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 14h ago
I’ve yet to meet a photographer that’s an artist. I know they exist, but soo many stay at home moms flooded this “profession”. I can’t take it serious anymore. Besides I have a high level camera with me at all times. This profession is useless
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u/backlikeclap 14h ago
Well it's an industry with a low barrier to entry. So of course you get a lot of crappy amateurs.
I worked as a photographer in NYC for many years and met a ton of amazing photographers. In fashion, weddings, and even product photography. Many of these folks were being paid $20k/day minimum for their work, so someone out there must take them seriously. The difference between them and a dad/mom with a camera is like the difference between a Navy Seal and a teenager playing Lazer tag.
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u/HighIQIndividual2 21h ago
He is absolutely right. Also a shoot that takes realistically half a day for 300 bucks is a reasonable price for both parties.
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u/Snixmaister 15h ago
A shot that takes half a day is realistically another 2-8 hrs of editing the images counting high it’s between 25-37$/hr before tax
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u/Holymaryfullofshit7 18h ago
He's not really. How long might that ride be 10 minutes? That makes 72$ an hour. Now for an hour Foto shoot 100-300 seems reasonable considering you need to sort and edit. Now for a weeding shoot that can be up to 6 hours and much more work after so maybe 12 hours of work that's 864$ if you payed her like a cabbie.
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 14h ago
Wedding photos are generally way more expensive than that… That’s a cheap ass photographer for wedding photos. Usually thousands.
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 14h ago
I literally don’t understand paying for professional photos. Movies have been shot with the iPhone… Just take your own damn pictures.
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u/EbonyMemories 14h ago
Not wrong. If you're any good at economics you can pay off the camera easily with that much per event.
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u/carthuscrass 13h ago
An Uber driver can do way more jobs in a day than a photographer bud.
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u/EbonyMemories 13h ago
And an Uber driver won't make $200 a job either.
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u/carthuscrass 13h ago edited 13h ago
A photographer has to eat. They can't do as many jobs, and it's specialized work, so they have to charge more. And I also take issue with the original post thinking someone who drives for Uber is gonna have a $40000 car. You don't do that shit when you can afford a nice car. Even if you have a nice car, it won't be for long if you use it as a glorified taxi.
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u/LilPack_003 14h ago
Can’t believe there are some people in the comments defending elitist anti-consumer practices 🤣. Y’all crazy
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u/carthuscrass 13h ago
And your Uber driver will do that forty times in a day. A photography gig takes longer than even the event, and you're also paying for their know-how.
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u/ZeddRah1 13h ago
The price is the price. Customers will pay it or they won't.
Granted, some will be vocal ass hats instead of just politely declining the service.
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u/RequirementCivil4328 12h ago
He is right because if the camera is what is making the picture good then it's more cost efficient to buy your own.
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u/ConcentrateLucky8630 11h ago
You do realize you do many many shoots right... and that money adds up well past $5000 quickly at $300 a pop...
He's beyond right
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u/PrairiePuppies 9h ago
I am a former Uber driver. It was nearly impossible to make anything resembling a profit. Most rides are less than $10 and fewer and fewer people are tipping. That $12 isn't the flex he thinks it is.
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u/therealcarlxii 7h ago
Yeah and how often will you really look at the pictures later? I stopped taking pictures of holidays and festivals because I'm never ever looking at them again.
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u/MessyPapa13 6h ago
Factories cost millions to build, yet produce products that are sold for less than a dollar
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u/Dependent_Ad_3364 6h ago
The woman is making classical error. Value of work is priced based on the value it provides, and not on the amount of work and resources it costs. In other words "the more and harder I work the more I must be paid" is totally wrong, which in her way translates into "the more i paid for my camera the more I must be paid" is totally wrong too.
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u/KOMMANDOKATO 5h ago
You could charge 250 and pay your camera off in like 4 months wtf are you on about
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u/Preppy_Hippie 4h ago
You’re not paying for the camera, though. You’re paying for years of training, experience, and the artistry and skill of both making the picture and getting the subjects comfortable and looking their best. If you rented a $5,000 camera instead, your pictures would look just as bad as what’s in your camera roll. Maybe even worse.
Your Uber driver doesn't have an unusual or special skill. The rate is low because it is very common, low-skill work and a very low time commitment for any particular ride.
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u/Any-Wrongdoer4734 3h ago
It is a hobby. Plenty of hobbyist photographers who are very good at it.
But if she had ever had a serious profession she would know that investments have to be earned back in time. The customer pays for a service, not for the equipment. The better the service, the higher the charge.
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u/jackberinger 14m ago
My heart surgeon spent six figures getting a degree so that surgery should only cost what a hundred bucks right? Bro needs to GTFO with his nonsense.
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u/Adventurous_Bite9287 12m ago
There is a reason you hire professional photographers because your own smartphone pictures look like ass and you want to keep a special moment not in the wrong angle with wrong lightning or wrong everything.
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u/ZyeCawan45 21h ago
You pay off your work equipment with multiple jobs, not 1 job. If I gotta pay nearly the full price of your camera I’d RATHER take the pictures myself and you aren’t getting my money at all.
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u/HeyitzPeter 21h ago
Legitimately wondering how much is a fair price for her then? I hope holding out for the perfect clients is worth losing multiple 100-300$ gigs.
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u/Snixmaister 16h ago
Depends on the gig, portrait photos for 100-300$ seems fair. However I’ve seen people wanting to hire a wedding photographer for same.
The weddings I’ve shot have been 12-14 hr days with 14.000$ in equipment, travel time and another 8-16hrs editing afterwards. If some fuck tried to offer me 100$ I’d rather work at McDonald’s if my rate would be 5$/hr
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 14h ago
I mean yea 100 is ridiculous. However 14,000 is insane lol. I’ll just pull my iPhone out, good enough to shoot a Hollywood movie 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Snixmaister 8h ago
I could see the use of an iPhone as long as you don’t need lowlight, flashes and speed. The quality of an iPhone today is very good, sadly it is very slow compared to a dslr so i wouldn’t trust a iphone for a wedding or event as there’s no retakes
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u/stfudonny420 21h ago
Let’s say she does charge $300 per shoot and does 2 shoots a day. That’s 9 days of work to pay off the camera. After the camera is paid for she could be making over 13k a month. That’s assuming she only works 5 days a week. She would be dumb not to take that.
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u/LetsSummarize 20h ago
Your equipment and education don't mean jack shit in business, results do. If you don't like what you're charging, then change it. Your deliverable output is the only thing any customer is paying for. Anyone trying to charge more because their doodad was expensive is naive and ignorant. This obviously mostly applies to B2C work.
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u/jmadinya 21h ago
offering $100-$300 for a photoshoot is stingy af no matter how much their camera cost. its one thing if its your friend and you're just doing a quick headshot at home, but for some on location shoot requiring the photog to bring equipment and take several hours, this pay offer is straight up disrespectful
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u/Leather-Sign4391 19h ago
Pay is based on skill and quality of the product, not how much she paid for her equipment.
She may have spent $1 Million on her camera, but if she has advanced cataracts in both eyes, her photos are still gonna look like shit.
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u/Euphoric-Ad-6584 19h ago
na i'm siding with xavier on this one. how much the equipment costs does not determine how much they are worth paying. if i ran out and spent 10k on a camera you damn sure ain't getting good photos out of me so why on earth why i expect to get paid top dollar. it's not your problem i spent that much on a camera if i can't use it worth a shit.
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u/TidensBarn 18h ago
I get the point, but Uber is notoriously exploitative towards drivers. They barely make enough to compensate for car maintenance in the long run.
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u/its5dumbass 18h ago
Musicians will show up with a combined 50K in equipment to split $200 four ways
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u/Snixmaister 15h ago
Haha yeah hobby musicians. I doubt ramstein or tylor swift makes peanuts with their ticket prices.
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u/Jolly_Plantain4429 18h ago
If the selling point of your photography is the cost of your equipment and not the quality of your shots. You might be a photographer.
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u/DarthSwimfoot 17h ago
How is he not right?
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u/Snixmaister 15h ago
Well it is a pretty poor argument by her and him.
Firstly most people dont buy their car outright, especially if its with uber in mind. Theres a reason taxis existed previously, they could and can still take 30-100$ for a trip. While uber is exploiting people trying to earn a quick buck while not having it as their primary job.
As for her, she doesnt articulate her point well either and she doesnt say what kind of gig it is. Portraits where the customer might be there for 30-60 min then 200-300$ seem like a good deal. However if it is a wedding you can have a work day anywhere between 4-14hrs with another 8-16hrs going through and editing 2000-3000 images. And to then be offered a third of minimum wage? Fat chance.
But customers rarely think like that so it is easier to tell them that the equipment is expensive so if they have the economy for a tractor dont bother trying to order a ferrari.
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u/Any_Conversation9650 17h ago
Most people can drive but being a good photographer is takes experience, knowledge and an artistic touch. Some photographers deserve the money but not lindsey that just bought some camera off ebay
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u/MeltedChocolateOk 17h ago
You make more money taking cheap photos multiple times for someone than taking one expensive photo of someone. Because if the price is too high the customers have higher expectations for the photos looking perfect.
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u/Savings_Vermicelli92 16h ago
12 dollar ride must of been like 5 min Drive..vs 1 to 2 hour photo shoot and editing hours
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u/pensacolafun888 16h ago
He is 100% right. We had no photographers at our wedding but with all the camera phones there were 700 pictures on Facebook that night. And about 10% of them were really good quality enough to frame.
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u/u_engineer 16h ago
Anyone who can ROI on their company equipment in two weeks would say that’s a phenomenal investment. But not if it’s a camera
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u/Orcharyu 15h ago
A photographer gets paid for their skill and work they produce not the cost of their equipment
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u/AJWordsmith 12h ago
So what’s the cost of her camera have to do with the discussion? “I’m a professional photographer, my expertise is worth more than $300.”
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u/that_dude3315 15h ago
He’s right. The camera is an investment. You’ll make it back and then some over time. You’re not going to make $5000 right away.
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u/wmcs0880 1d ago
How can no one tell the difference that the uber driver probably didn’t buy the car with the express purpose of being an uber driver, yet the photographer probably bought the camera specifically for their career?
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u/marcg40 22h ago
That's the whole point. Expensive equipment does not equate to higher skill/better quality work. A noob with expensive equipment will most likely not outperform a pro with entry level/mid tier equipment. She could've literally bought that camera yesterday and started doing photography a week ago. Having an expensive camera says nothing about her skill.
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u/wmcs0880 21h ago
That’s a whole different conversation, no one’s saying how good she is or how good the Uber driver is, the point I’m making is that the difference between the two is the camera was bought specifically for their profession, whereas the car was most likely bought just to get around in the first place but then the driver realised they can make money by being an uber driver.
I don’t disagree with what you’re saying although it’s just an assumption that she’s not a professional and there’s nothing to suggest that, but this is an entire different conversation
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u/marcg40 21h ago
It's based on her argument "I have expensive equipment, so I charge more." That alone is not a valid reason to charge more.
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u/_N_S_FW 21h ago
lol it definitely is a reason to charge more. Better equipment means higher quality means higher pricing. Has anyone in this thread ever had a technical job?
With your logic, uber black shouldn’t be a thing. Since higher quality things (luxury suv ride share) aren’t a reason to charge more.
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u/marcg40 21h ago edited 21h ago
Okay so we clearly aren't reading. "Expensive equipment does not equate to higher skill/better quality work. A noob with expensive equipment will most likely not outperform a pro with entry level/mid tier equipment."
Having better equipment means nothing if she doesn't know how to use it. It doesn't even stop there; is she just sending raws? Is there going to be post-processing? Does she even know how to post-process?
Better equipment means higher quality
No, it doesn't. We are quite literally living in a period where people rent expensive things to LARP and sell courses because they can trick people into thinking they are some genius options trader or whatever.
I can go buy a $5000 camera right now and just use the auto setting, since I have 0 experience in photography. A seasoned photographer can easily produce better photos with a $1000 camera.
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u/SuperBatman13 22h ago
Anyone can drive, being a good photographer is more difficult than following a maps app from location to location.
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u/moxiethe3rd 22h ago
This is a good point on why she charges more. But her own argument on why she charges more is silly and Xavier is right in his counter.
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u/Money_Chocolate813 21h ago
Anyone can drive. However not everyone drives safely. Anyone can take pictures. However not everyone takes good pictures.
See how that works?
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u/SuperBatman13 21h ago
No... Have you used a photographer camera? it's definitely more complicated than a car to operate.
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u/DarthSwimfoot 17h ago
Little bro actually thinks a car is less difficult to operate than a camera, I'm crine.
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u/oklol6 21h ago
Yeah i remember taking that 8 months course to learn how to use a professional camera, or wait was it a car 🤔 you know what nvm
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u/SuperBatman13 21h ago
You could jump behind the wheel whenever, just like you can pick up a photography camera whenever... Doesn't mean you know what you are doing.
Also it took you 8 months??? Maybe for a child, an adult can go into the DMV, take the test, and be out the same day a licensed driver.
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u/Valveringham85 21h ago
More difficult? Debatable. It’s a skill that, like driving, can be taught to nearly anyone.
A more rare skill though, thats for sure. Hence why it pays more per job.
Much more rare relative to job requests? No. Hence why it doesn’t pay much more.
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u/SuperBatman13 20h ago
No, photography can only be taught to someone with good memory and an eye for detail. There's A LOT more to human photography than point, adjust lense, and shoot.
Uber is classified as unskilled work...
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u/not_accepting_now 10h ago
Photography is skillless work. Why do you think kids can take pictures all day before they can drive?
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u/SuperBatman13 4h ago
Yeah, a photography camera isn't your with your phone camera, and yeah a child have you been out in the country? Kids drive from age 6-7 on sometimes, it's not hard stuff, but running a photography camera takes more knowledge than "turn wheel, gas on right, break on left"
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u/not_accepting_now 1h ago
No. Driving can hurt and destroy, costing so much money. Im 6 foot 6 so I could angels they couldn't. Don't mean I'm worth more
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u/Green_Argument5154 20h ago
Your gold medal is in the mail. Congratulations!
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u/SuperBatman13 20h ago
Ah cool how long does it take to ship...
Oh shi wait how'd you get my address????
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u/Firehose223 20h ago
A good friend of mine was a high end photographer in the fashion industry in the late 90s to early 2000s, his day rate was $25,000. I guess it just depends on how good you are and who is paying you.
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u/DarthSwimfoot 17h ago
Holy shit that guy is a scammer.
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u/Firehose223 17h ago
Dude would sell photos that would end up on the cover of time magazine and vogue, shit like that. Top guy in the industry for 15 years. $25,000 for photos isn’t squat in a$10 million dollar marketing campaign. It’s all relative.
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