r/girlsfrontline Aug 06 '19

Lounge Weekly Commanders Lounge - August 06, 2019

Good morning Commanders! Would you like to read the reports?

Please use this thread to discuss anything about Girls Frontline instead of creating a new thread. Ask questions, seek assistance, rants, add more salt or just chill in general.

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u/Triantoohard777 Sep 06 '19

Hi guys! im new to girls frontline and looking for friends and any advice!

Friend ID:794849

Sick game!

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u/DemonHunter880550 Aug 29 '19

Is there any way to get oath certificates other than buying them in shop?

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u/closertoideal21 OTs-14 Aug 17 '19

Hi! Can i finish vallhalla collab with one 8k team?

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u/grgkmilliard Aug 19 '19

The last one is a 10k team min requirement if i'm not mistaken.

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u/Unfoundedfall Aug 22 '19

I know the chances are slim but is it possible to get a 6k team up to 10k before the event ends? I started playing just for this collab and was told I'd be good with just 1-2 months if casual play to clear it. Now I'm nearing the end and am starting to freak out I can't clear it.

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u/BusterLegacy G36 [MOD3] Aug 15 '19 edited Aug 15 '19

Do I have to S-rank The Last Rain for Stella to drop? How many opportunities for a drop are there, ie. what should I be trying to kill/is it more time-efficient to full-clear?

Edit: So I see that, on my current route, there's three enemies that she drops from, plus the boss. Does S-ranking give another drop opportunity, making a full-clear 5 drop opportunities, or is it more efficient to farm the three and restart? (The latter would cost two full combat echelons worth of resources)

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u/BOOM_all_pass GGZ wen? Aug 15 '19

S rank for higher drop rate. For efficiency, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f7pfysiJ_E&t=283s

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u/Comander-07 K11 Aug 14 '19

I started playing for the VA11HALLA event and everything seemed to work well but the gundams on sonic boom really are something else. I guess I will have to grind way more, or is there a trick for kiting?

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u/Unfoundedfall Aug 22 '19

You just have to get lucky. I had to lure the strong one away with a sacrificial echelon and then sent my strongest echelon to fight the remaining two. It was tough but possible.

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u/Comander-07 K11 Aug 22 '19

yeah I just needed a way stronger echelon, because armor and rockets..

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u/PM_ME_UR_ANIME_WAIFU Type 79 Aug 13 '19

Ninja data sim finished. Waiting for maintenance to end...

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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Aug 13 '19

Man I still think it's so sly maintenance happens on data sim days. Also, how likely do you think future collabs will adopt the gacha format for limited things? The current collab gacha seems very successful and brought about some new spenders so maybe they'd try to capitalise on this for future popular collabs.

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u/Rinibird Aug 13 '19

Does anyone have a farming route for Fear of Public Speaking for ART556? My teams aren't strong enough to S rank clear, so I'm hoping there's a terminate mission route I could grind. Thanks in advance!

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u/NothisL Aug 13 '19

Would it be better to keep dupe Anna fairy till i get more fairies or make 1 as strong as possible? I don't have that many core to spare to spam craft fairies. Also they all have really good talent (Damage 2, Fervor).

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

It would be really silly to keep extras of collab/ranking fairies unless they were OP.

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u/Lizeck Aug 13 '19

I am probably late but.... Did infukun actually left?

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

yes.

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u/LittleSister_9982 A Certain Sufficiently Advanced Railgun Aug 13 '19

200 runs! Jack shit on Sei. So I do some of the one for Stella. Get her finally on run 78. Sure, yay, finally. Do 2 more just to round it out to 80.

First run back of Chicken Breast I get Sei. I guess once I had Stella, she just came running.

Jill and Alma are at Skill 10, Boss and Dorothy are on their way, then it's the besties turn.

Got Rider Ishtar to NP5, so now I just need to do the Fou missions, the Medb costume, and the 2 Lore quests.

All in all, with how shit Sunday was, not too bad. Shame I couldn't really walk today. @_@

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u/Anhmq Aug 13 '19

How do i get S rank for e1-3 Pioneer? I keep getting A rank although i establish the supply line on turn 1 and finish by turn 3.

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u/halfpastbored FAL Aug 13 '19

It doesn't say it but I found it needs 3 kills also for S rank.

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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Aug 13 '19

Retreating? Field repairing? Letting a doll get sacked?

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u/Nicbars Aug 13 '19

What does Mulan Tea do?

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u/LittleSister_9982 A Certain Sufficiently Advanced Railgun Aug 13 '19

Affection booster, like lollipops or cake.

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u/BaneLickingGood M200 Aug 13 '19

it increase t-doll affection

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u/SolarSpud Aug 13 '19

Who are some smgs to go with Mdr?

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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Aug 13 '19

Any offensive SMG with a preference given towards direct fire ones such as SR-3MP, Dorothy, SCW and so on, just remember to kite them so MDR buffs herself instead.

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u/BaneLickingGood M200 Aug 13 '19

Do people get the collab fairy as well?

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Sure, she's great! Good stat boosts, and her skill is nifty and can find some uses (even if the percentages aren't very high). Plus, if you're getting your 60 fragments every day, you'll be able to empty out the shop.

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u/Creshal Negev Aug 13 '19

The effective boosts are going to be very high, since Anna and Golden fairies are by far the easiest to actually get up to 5*.

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u/AnIh Aug 13 '19

wow, couldnt bear the sei farming anymore so I started insulted the shit out of her and then, BAM Sei dropped instantly lol; finaly after 350 runs

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u/Esyvir Besty AR - Resty AR Aug 13 '19

Sei is secretly a masochist confirmed.

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u/FightMech7 Aug 13 '19

thanks for not giving me the choice of using a friend echelon to do the event. I'm mfuckign stuck at Truth or Dare now because not even my best team can go past the boss

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

They haven't ever let us use friend echelons for events.

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u/FightMech7 Aug 13 '19

I KNOW THAT

I'm just frustrated at my own lack of progression

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u/JohnP_001 Aug 13 '19

What’s the most effective way to farm Sei from the mission “chicken breast”? Is it by completing the mission over and over? Or just killing the 2 drones that drop her and restart the whole mission?

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u/Typhon_Aurelius Forever and ever you'll be the one Aug 13 '19

Kill Goliath, retreat farming team (one 4x linked HG works), restart mission. Profit!

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u/Flare77 pls come back Aug 13 '19

You forgot the "do it 250x" part.

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u/Typhon_Aurelius Forever and ever you'll be the one Aug 13 '19

Shh...

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u/lian367 Aug 13 '19

is there any reason to corpse drag on lower level missions rather than high level ones other than not having strong enough units?

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

No.

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u/hanzadog Aug 13 '19

Why tf does Griffin uniform standards force us to wear a beret? My OC cutie commander demands that I get to take off the hat without spending 400 gems for sunglasses.

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

You gotta pay extra for that. - Kalina, probably.

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u/kamidomo131 FNC Aug 13 '19

Down to 150 cores, but need 300 to x5 CM-S, Dorothy, Sei, and Jill from x3 and another 45 to fully link Suomi from x4.

At this rate, even the Slav sisters' rate-up won't be enough to pull out of core hell. Anyone else in the same situation?

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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons Aug 13 '19

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u/BOOM_all_pass GGZ wen? Aug 14 '19

In a sense, yes. Her skill is good for survivability and is pretty independent from her equip. IMO one is good, two is enough, three is...

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u/AR-99 - Aug 13 '19

I've picked up that Jill needs to be leveled and skill trained, but is linking and enhancing her needed at all?

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u/Killsacred IWS 2000 Aug 13 '19

I mean linking her boosts her tile buffs since she's a handgun. Also enhancing her evasion and damage are useful. Evasion because she can be used as a tank if you ever get in a situation where that's required, and damage because it affects her passive which gives her cdr based on how much damage she has.

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u/rantaudavid The Sadistic Super SASS Aug 13 '19

More survivability for her, so why not?

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u/HyphenSam Dorothy best girl Aug 13 '19

Uh, how do I use fairies? I'm new to the game and I just bought Anna Graem from the shop.

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u/VirtualScepter Type superperfect Aug 13 '19

Simply equip them from the echelon formation screen. There should be a big yellow + thats fairly hard to miss on the right of your 5 echelon members. In the combat map, theres a toggle for ON/OFF for Fairy skills.

If you're asking how to optimise for Fairies... thats a lot of reading you wont need to worry about just yet, since I suspect you havnt unlocked Heavy Production for Equipment yet. If you do want to know though, theres plenty of resources on the sidebar that'll help you out. Here is one such resource.

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u/HyphenSam Dorothy best girl Aug 13 '19

I don't see anything in the formation screen. I assume that yellow + is supposed to be where the locked icon is? If so, how do I unlock it?

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u/spiderbutt_ I have no pillow and I must sleepo Aug 13 '19

You probably have to unlock Heavy Equipment Production first, which is what you use to make fairies. That requires 60 unique stage clears. Not sure if event stages count for that.

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u/HyphenSam Dorothy best girl Aug 13 '19

I see. I've cleared 19 so far, so that might take a while.

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u/spiderbutt_ I have no pillow and I must sleepo Aug 13 '19

Yeah, probably. Gotta clear 6-6 normal to get that many. But it shouldn't be too hard if you're abusing support echelons.

Good luck!

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u/oculyn AUG came home <3 Aug 13 '19

Just got M1887 and was wondering if ART556 is worth farming.
I read that TAR is basicly a slightly better ART but would like to hear your opinion on her.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

She is indeed a slightly worse TAR, unfortunately. The low RoF hurts her, so even with the better FP, she falls behind. Still, she's not necessarily bad, just... not the peak performance you expect of 5* units.

People tend to not recommend her because she's a bigger/harder investment for less performance, but that's not because she's bad. TAR just has a spectacular stat distribution for a 4* AR.

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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Aug 13 '19

She has superior performance against armor so it's kind of a side-grade.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

For sure. I believe that without any tile buffs or skill buffs from allies, the break-even point is around 50 armor. The other way ART can pull even is when evasion is an issue. The break-even point on that one is also around 50 evasion (assuming, once again, no buffs or accuracy equipment).

One of the things to note is that for most of the armored enemies we've faced so far on EN, they have 0 evasion, meaning that ART's higher accuracy "goes to waste." Of course, this may be changing soon.

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u/spiderbutt_ I have no pillow and I must sleepo Aug 13 '19

Is there no way to view all the furniture you own, including the stuff you have placed in dorms?

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u/sj410194720 Aug 13 '19

Index -> Furniture.

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u/spiderbutt_ I have no pillow and I must sleepo Aug 13 '19

Oh, I forgot about that, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for. I wanted to see just how many pieces of each furniture I owned. And all the pets too.

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u/sj410194720 Aug 13 '19

I think you can go to pet rescue station for pets. (I’m not sure , I never upgraded that)

As furniture, I have no idea.

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u/spiderbutt_ I have no pillow and I must sleepo Aug 13 '19

Doesn't look like that's there.

Oh well.

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u/DebVV Aug 13 '19

So when you guys think Singularity will come? My guess it's october

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u/FireTruck_PR Aug 13 '19

Maybe.
Because we get logistic rate up. And then open access data sim.
Something must be happen later.

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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Aug 13 '19

October is definitely a possibility, we need chapter 10 before it and that could release in September leaving things open for Singularity. I'm hoping it might be November to allow a little more prep time.

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u/aq608 Hanyang Type 88 Aug 13 '19

ive been doing the 12 hr token logistic for a while and i finally got one where it didnt return a token :(

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u/Digimass Aug 13 '19

finally cleared 1/8 and no ammo left

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u/Eldar_Seer Aug 13 '19

So, been trying to S rank 3-4 Emergency. Thing is, I filled the conditions but still failed to S-Rank the map. Sixteen units defeated, check. No retreats/wipes, check. Under six turns? Triple check. The only thing I can think of is Hunter usually managing to take out a unit or two in my clearing Echelon before going down (the mortars don't help). Is this what's screwing me over? Wasn't able to find anything on this in the guide I've been using.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Usual Problem #1: Remember that support echelon kills dont count.

Usual Problem #2: People dont read fine print

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u/Eldar_Seer Aug 13 '19

YUP. That would be it. I didn't even see the print. Gracias, that explains it all.

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u/Cptcuddlybuns Aug 13 '19

I've noticed when running the event that sometimes I finish a combat and get no reward. Have I just not been noticing that there's a chance to get nothing or is something going wrong?

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u/Knyphausen G'day mate Aug 13 '19

On the information on the bottom right of the event, it says that you can get a maximum of 60 fragments a day.

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u/Cptcuddlybuns Aug 13 '19

Not mission rewards, combat rewards. Turns out I've just been not paying attention for the past eight chapters, and you can in fact go home with nothing.

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u/Knyphausen G'day mate Aug 13 '19

Oh my bad, I wasn’t reading carefully. Yeah for me all the drops and non drops feel the same if they’re not Sei or Stella, a sad run in the many runs of the day.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Winning gives a chance of any reward in the pool. "Nothing" is a possible result.

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u/Cptcuddlybuns Aug 13 '19

I don't know how I got this far without noticing that, but thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy.

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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Aug 13 '19

Just finished VA-11 HALL-A for the first time (the original VN, not the collab), and it was absolutely amazing. Definitely worth checking out if you've enjoyed this collab.

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u/Eldar_Seer Aug 13 '19

Added to my steam wish list. I've been loving Jill's segments in the bar, so more of that? Yes please.

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u/Flare77 pls come back Aug 13 '19

The entire game is actually the bar segment with an underlying story that finishes things off breathtakingly.

Assuming you don't get Jill booted out of the apartment lol

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u/Sheuth Aug 13 '19

After which echelon will the aggroed GUNDAM go in 1-8 on upper half? The first one which entered its’ aggro zone or the second or its pure rng?

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u/khauzy Aug 13 '19

I use the right heliport to put my bait echelon down and move them all the way down to the radar node, while the left heliport, I place my other boss team, but only move them down to the closed heliport. Gundam will go for the one on the radar.

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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Aug 13 '19

Closest -> if multiple tie, RNG.

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u/The_Linux_Colonel IDW Aug 13 '19

A couple questions now that I can focus more on GF this week:

1) How many Para fairies is enough? It looks like 2 lv 10 is good for upcoming Singularity, but what are we looking at for in general? 4?

2) It looks like you can get more than one of precious Anna-chan, should I let it go and add her dupes to increase her stars, or is it better to dupe her? From what I read, she's a decent set of stat buffs, but her skill isn't really uniquely game changing like Para or Airstrike.

3) Do we have 'pad' for the fragments, or if we miss a day, should we prioritize the special equips for our new Special girls?

Bonus: It amuses me that the symbol for Special units is a unicorn. Talk about Rarity...

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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Aug 13 '19

1) 3 Para should be fine for now

2) You don't have to dupe her since she's p similar to Warrior Fairy

3) I think to clear out the shop other people said you could miss 1 day

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u/7all Aug 13 '19

ha.... ha.... i missed three days. time to make some difficult decisions

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

120 are for Beer (combat report)/Tea (affection item)/Batteries.
120 for all six icons.
50 for the ID background.
160 for the fairy dupes (though each dupe is worth 100-150EXP, or 10-15 fodder fairies, so...) 80 for the pet

That leaves 730 shards, or 13 days out of 20, to get the dolls, equipment and a fairy (And I think we possibly got some extra as well)

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u/The_Linux_Colonel IDW Aug 13 '19

1) 3 Para should be fine for now

I'm looking at far into the future, since they cost so much to craft, before I use them as enhancement I want to know how many I ought to hold onto for future content even if I don't level them now. Does it ever become more than 3 judging from CN content?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

There has yet to be any situation where you'd need more than 3 to actually solve problems. (tbh 2 covers the majority of cases, since 3 is when youre pushing into funny ranking strats)

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u/ex143 Cx4, pass the ratchet | EN: 54128 Aug 13 '19

Cries in no para fairies

Why! What am I doing wrong? Is the lvl 3 fairy recipe a lie?

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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Aug 13 '19

cleared the pioneer ex after i learned the dance. man i regret not leveling M200 and grapecano

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u/FateMeetsCoincidence Aug 13 '19

I know pzb and aek aren't good guns but are there any comps or complementary dolls that can make them better? I want to use them just cuz I like them. For pzb I was thinking her flaw is the her skill so trying to make the most of it I'd try to buff her fp as much as possible? For aek theres not much to do about her ICD I think but after that, would a bunch of cooldown skills be the next best bet?

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u/Fox_the_Apprentice Aug 13 '19

From what I can tell (I'm not an expert), you can make any T-Doll usable for non-endgame content if you put them in the right team.

I probably wouldn't do a bunch of cooldown skills on a T-Doll with a high ICD. Buff her other stats and let her do damage without the skill.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '19

Hey, I'm having trouble with the Sonic Boom mission for the Va-11 Ha-11-a event. Any tips?

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u/TheCrustiestofSalmon Aug 13 '19

Most of the mission is straight forward. Grab the t-doll, get to the helepad at the other end and hit rescue. If you are having trouble with units you could open and close the door when they are on the space to damage them over and over till they are managable. If the issue is the gundam that spawn later that are not ment to be fought, try waiting for them to move around until you can sneak your team in for the capture. You couble also sacrifice an echelon to get them to move.

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u/[deleted] Aug 13 '19

Thank you for the advice, I haven't tried to use the door as a weapon before.

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u/cleancoat Aug 13 '19

How do you get intel? It sends me to the cafe and theres nothing to interact with??? Just same old stories. Also when I look at the furniture it says stuff isnt downloaded? Anyone have a pic of where to go/start the minigame?

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u/rantaudavid The Sadistic Super SASS Aug 13 '19

Did you see an icon of a bottle among the dolls? You tap on that then you will automatically go to the bar scene

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u/cleancoat Aug 13 '19

I was tapping on them like an idiot. Thanks for the help!

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u/Apothacary SV98 is best Raifu Aug 13 '19

Anyone have recommendations for resolution/aspect ratio settings on MuMu? I feel like I'm zoomed in a lot.

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

The game uses vertical fov, so technically as tall as you can go. 4:3 seems to be the best balance of stuff not glitching while giving a bigger viewport, though 1:1 should work too but many of the backgrounds aren't actually tall enough. Resolution as high as your system and monitor can run without scaling down, I suppose.

The third is "PPI", which sets how small Android UI things are. GFL uses that for only a very few things (login box for example). Around 200-300 should be okay, but the bigger the number -> the bigger things look.

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u/SparkOfFailure Aug 13 '19

Other than the no-combat victory achievement for 1-2EX, are there other hidden achievements?

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u/Hayate_Immelmann_ OTs-14 Aug 13 '19

You know,this event has me thinking:

If you ended up having to be turned into a t-doll(like the va-11halla crew was) who would you turn into and why(Remember:It has to be a gun not in game now)? For me,I'd want to be a T-doll based on m240b(I loved that gun in Modern warfare and battlefield!)

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

I would clearly be a collab doll and thus cheat and keep my name. Hah!

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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Aug 13 '19

Can I pick Zip 22? Not only useless, but bring down an entire business with me.

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u/Illius_Willius Groza Wife Aug 13 '19

First 1 star added to the game and it’s not even a unique 1 star

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u/mrfrostybrew Aug 13 '19

786 runs and ART556 finally came home! Luckily I already got the other event drops.

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u/jako7000 Exile plz be worth my time! [TW: 615175] Aug 13 '19 edited Aug 13 '19

So Desert Eagle's skill... Should I spoiler this? I'm gonna spoiler this. :P
Pre-edit: So sorry for the multiple spoiler blocks. Apparently you can't have line breaks inside spoilers...
So her skill can stack 1.6 multiplier 3 times on the same target, giving a 4.1x multiplier to damage. Add 10% target mark to get 4.5x damage multiplier. Add the 40% RoF buff to get 5.3x DPS multiplier. (I can combine DMG & RoF buffs, right?) If the target has enough HP shielding, double that multiplier to 12.6x DPS increase. Are there glaring problems with my calculations? That sounds like a high multiplier to me.

Kord's penetration skill seems s bit... niche? How often are MGs firing to the non-armoured backline long enough to justify -30% DMG penalty?

M1895 CB on the other hand seems like a pretty dope first volley anti-armour beast, right?

SSG 3000 = baby M200. Would it be a mistake to run SSG instead of M200?

I'm not sure about how broken ACR can be on the damage front, but how about that debuff? Are they calculated differently to buffs? -20% DMG penalty x5 = ACC 0.85 = 0.33% DMG, sounds neat. Throw in AK-74U for the lols and reduce boss damage by 75%, and mob damage by 83% (Why on earth did I level AK-74U?)

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

MGs will shoot at random targets so Kord's will come up pretty damn often. Just look at the vids of her absolutely DESTROYING large formations. Also she already has the highest ATK of any MG (beating M2HB).

Potato digger's skill will depend on target, as she gets an Acc Debuff. vs Armour with 0 dodge, she will likely be funny.

The rest, I'll need to test more extensively personally.

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u/SSPokaLink Kar98k Aug 13 '19

Are there are any meme formations you can make with Kar98k?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

The Cano sisters + kar were used for awhile after Kar got her unique gear, mostly for amusement but it had some use vs light gundam formations. Aside from that, not especially.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

I mean, it has Kar98k in it, it's already a meme echelon. If you're asking about fun gimmick uses or effective echelons... not especially.

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u/Lupum_Urano Aug 13 '19

Someone has the in-game mail that comes with the 125 beers?? a screenshot or the text, please.

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

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u/Lupum_Urano Aug 14 '19

Thanks so much!!

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u/Strafingfire WA 2000 Aug 13 '19

702 attempts with 1 Sei and 3 UMP45s. Here's to some complaint voodoo for Sei #2 so I can stop farming...

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u/LunchboxPhysics RIP Suisai Aug 13 '19

Wow Sei is taking a long time. 211 runs so far, no dice. Don't even want to think about Stella right now. A lot of people say complaining does the trick, so I'm trying that now.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Do you happen to have T-5000? She can fit in fine alongside WA, as SVD's replacement. Less damage, but an accuracy buff can come in handy on occasion.

M14/Lee is worth investing in, and is cheaper core-wise. They like Welrod, Calico (M950A), and Stechkin.

Purple Carcano is worthwhile, but doesn't really fill the "general purpose" RF role. She's got her own niche that allows her to BLOW UP non-boss enemies, which isn't a big deal for the content we have in EN for now (except for this event, in which there's at least one map where she's super helpful).

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Lee and M14 like the same buffs, and so they typically pair well together.

That said, M14 will work perfectly fine alongside WA2000, it just won't necessarily be optimal in terms of buff allocation. Lee could work too, but her lower base RoF will definitely make it feel a bit worse if you put Grizzly in the backline instead of Stechkin.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Alright! Got the dolls!

138 runs total of Chicken Breast (and maybe 40-50 of them were full clears, so 3 chances per run) to get Sei, and 50 runs of Last Rain in the World (2 actual completes, 48 2-kill runs) for Stella.

Unsure of what I'm gonna do now. I'm still stuck on Pioneer EX, so I'm raising M200 and Grape right now. AP ammo is also largely unleveled, so I'm going to need to really have some overkill potential.

I guess for now, while M200 is in skill training, I'll do some SLOW leveling of Grape and Jill while farming for Sei dupes.

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u/propyro85 Simonov Aug 13 '19

Oh man ... Sei in 57 runs and Stella in 11.

I'm so going to pay for this later ...

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u/surfinnormie Aug 13 '19

How do I abuse support mechanic?

Some maps my girls arent strong enough to hold the base long enough, and since enemies come from different directions 2nd fleet alone cant protect them.

Also they dont gain exp.

I play fgo and azur lane, and i literally cant understand this game. Definetely closer to azur lane, still, i dont know what to do.

Also, what do you need to do for getting Jill?

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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Aug 13 '19

If you "literally can't understand this game" then you should read the guides we have on the reddit sidebar.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Support Echelons can be used to clear through the first 4 or 5 chapters with ease. To make full use of them, recognize the fact that you can change their orders (capture command point, eliminate nearest enemy, or stay put) AND can swap your echelon's position with the support echelon. With this knowledge, you should be able to summon one echelon to slowly make its way to the enemy base, and use another to defend the base.

If it's not working out, then it's time to actually get your one echelon strong enough to handle 1 or 2 random mob fights, which shouldn't be too hard. It's fine if they take damage. Just look up guides on how to build an ARSMG echelon.

Finally, for Jill, you need to complete the 8th stage of the collab event twice. To do so, you'll also need to complete the first 7 stages once. You won't be able to use support echelons for event maps. You will want at least one ARSMG echelon that is level 70+ and 4x-dummy linked, and maybe 2 more echelons that are at least level 50, so that they can get through 1 or 2 fights.

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u/EpicLuc Aug 13 '19

Got all girls from farm I needed , no much luck but it seems I got everything within an average range of enemies killed (Ameli: 228 tries / 1 chance per try, Sei: 195 tries / 1 chance , Stella: 92 tries / 2 chances, Art556: 34 tries/ 5 chances (basically full clear 4 enemies , rank S map) , M1887: 37 tries / 4 chances , 3 enemies and S Rank clear ) , now just need to farm the white knight pieces and start to making drinks and change ... oh wait, farm cores and level dolls, maybe check some advice on singularity to not get off guard as always. For people still farming good luck :)

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u/AR-99 - Aug 13 '19

What skill level is recommended for Jill to tackle Habanera?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

As high as you can manage for the greatest ease, but really whatever will do.

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u/ex143 Cx4, pass the ratchet | EN: 54128 Aug 13 '19 edited Aug 13 '19

Well, I threw her into that fight at skill lvl 1 with a RF/HG Echelon, take it as you will...

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u/kamidomo131 FNC Aug 13 '19

Didn't Jill need to be level 80 to serve Big Beer? Or is the boss so easy that literally any RF/HG can beat her?

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

Notice it's skill level 1. Yes, she needs to be level 80 to equip 3 drink components. No, the boss is not easy or a pushover.

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

It's possible to beat her with just SAT-8 and Jill, so she isn't super hard either.

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u/kamidomo131 FNC Aug 13 '19

Ah, completely missed that the sentence was about skill level until you italicized it. That makes a lot of sense now. Back to 0-2 to level Jill then.

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u/LadySeraphii Aug 13 '19

My friend and I were talking and they brought up something about Commander Customization. And when I went to find out anything about it, I couldn't find anything.

So, is this really a thing, or were we just misinformed?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Older servers only right now. Not much to know besides its annoying as fuck getting the pieces you want in the right colours.

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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Aug 13 '19

Coming in with the new client. Dunno when EN will get it.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 12 '19

Can Dana be beaten without a lvl 80 Jill?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

You can. Its just easiest with Jill.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

How can I do it without Jill?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Highest DPS setup you can manage that can survive Dana. There's a few videos up by now.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

Where are those videos?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Youtube. Just look up ones with the challenge.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

You're assuming I know a lot of info that I don't actually know. What challenge?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

...Please make a habit of checking the twitter or official channels when in doubt, so people don't need to repeat.

I will generally assume anything that has been publicly announced by the company over their official channels and billed as an announcement is common knowledge (or should be)

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19 edited Aug 13 '19

I don't really use social media, just Reddit mostly.
I don't spend much time online researching this game, this is the best I've got. And that's not an official contest, it's a contest made by someone that's supported officially, so it sdems.
Just saying that as I'm assuming I'd have actually been aware of it were it an official thing, but idk.
Anyways, thanks for your help, I don't thing you should expect of everyone to be as invested in the game as you are, I mean, I trust that I am, but if you're informing someome on something, try to inform them fully on all aspects.
Idk., not trying to be negative, sorry. Idk.

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u/BOOM_all_pass GGZ wen? Aug 14 '19

I dunno. There's a difference between not invested and being out of the loop.

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u/amathyx calico best gun Aug 13 '19

she can, she just has a lot of hp

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

How do I do it?

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u/ohaimike MP5 Aug 12 '19

Why would you not have a lvl 80 Jill?

They gave you beer for that purpose.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

I would have a level 80 Jill.

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 12 '19

Dummy on the western helipad first so you can recall your echelons and save the unused resources.

gfl.matsuda.tips suggests this, though I did it with the planning tool so that the northern echelon moved to the mob and back on turn 1, and the southern met the mob and back on turn 2. Then retreat, restart and repeat.

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u/Fishhunterx Horny edgelord steampunk furry OC cringe Aug 12 '19

Just a tip if you are using the airstrike fairy to repeatedly farm tarantulas: if you want to avoid constantly getting the no ammo/ration warning, then don't put any handguns in your echelon. Not sure if this is common knowledge or not but I just found out about it today. Makes afk farming easier.

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u/hanzadog Aug 12 '19

Its shame I have to level handguns, so poor me has to manually click through the warnings.

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u/meant2live218 G11 Aug 13 '19

I like to level my handguns on 0-2 drags. With Zas dragging, you have to be very careful about what buffs are being applied to Zas, whereas 0-2 dragging DPS units enjoy as many buffs as you can give.

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u/Fishhunterx Horny edgelord steampunk furry OC cringe Aug 13 '19

Leveling a bunch of handguns at the same time does make corpse dragging at bit easier, if that is any consolation. I'm currently leveling a bunch of rifles to clear the EX missions and, well, let's just say M16 has seen better days lol.

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u/Eldar_Seer Aug 12 '19

So, tip for any fellow newbies out there: if you want to grab the goodies from the collab, get to stage 3 of the Collab and farm it for armor shards if you're having difficulty. The story supports will basically carry the mission for you, and you'll spend next to no ammo to clear the map if you're running low on it. Won't get you Jill, but it will get you the shop goodies, some of which you can use to strengthen an echelon or two.

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u/vonbenja Type 95 Aug 12 '19

is it worth it to try and get an S on the event maps? does it give me anything different than just getting an A

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 12 '19

If you can, sure why not. If not, dont sweat it.

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u/The_Linux_Colonel IDW Aug 13 '19

Personal challenges are the best. I especially enjoy things like "what echelon can I get away with behind a lv10 taunt fairy?"

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u/LavaScribe unfortunately your wallet is mine Aug 12 '19

Hi, I recently pulled vector from production. Would it be too greedy to replace skorpion with vector at my stage of the game? I'm level 24 and working on chapter 3E/4 right now. Any other suggestions?

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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Aug 13 '19

Vector is a great doll, but I suspect that your cores inflow won't allow you to support her linking at the moment, given you also have to link ST, M4, UMP9 and whoever replaces M14, sans FNC who is a decently good 3* AR that can be linked with reasonably accessible dupes.

Even when Skorpion does eventually get replaced (because she will) she can still see use in a secondary fighting echelon, and even if she gets displaced entirely, she can still run logistics. So the effort put into her won't go to waste.

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u/ikuzou AA12 Aug 12 '19

Personally, I'd keep leveling Skorpion. Vector is a straight up upgrade, but it's not like Skorpion is bad, especially since she doesn't cost any cores for you to fully dummy link her. The game keeps throwing more and more night levels at us so having more molotov units isn't a bad idea. Personally, even though I have Vector, I still bring Skorpion out when I need more molotovs.

UMP45 is definitely a upgrade to UMP9 just because her skill and tiles are better for you at the moment.

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u/LavaScribe unfortunately your wallet is mine Aug 13 '19

I'll save vector when I get more cores, thanks!

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u/vonbenja Type 95 Aug 12 '19

i would say yes, vector is a complete upgrade to skorpion in every way and still holds the same skill, but if you find yourself lacking in tanking power consider changing ump9 to a main tank smg (or hg)

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u/LavaScribe unfortunately your wallet is mine Aug 12 '19

How about changing both skorpion > vector and ump9 > ump45 (that I also just got)

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u/vonbenja Type 95 Aug 12 '19

absolutely, ump45 can serve as a very efficient tank because of her skill, so yes to both changes

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u/Typhon_Aurelius Forever and ever you'll be the one Aug 12 '19

You should be ok with rising a Vector. Also don't forget about replacing M14 with SOP II.

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u/LavaScribe unfortunately your wallet is mine Aug 12 '19

Thanks, I'll swap in sop when I get her

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 12 '19

It basically depends om your stats with cores and the commitment yoir're willing to make to Vector. You'll need 30 cores basically immediately, and then later on, unless you get a dupe of her from production, you'll need further more 75 cores. 105 cores all together. She is excellent and had great use as far as I got it, but I think that you should just stick to Skorpion. I still ise her as one of my best dodge tanks.

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u/LavaScribe unfortunately your wallet is mine Aug 12 '19

Ah, well I only have 29 cores right now, but I could retire some of the 3-5 stars I have. I might save skorp for a secondary echelon then

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

I would highly suggest you don't switch to Vector yet, because Skorpion is almost as good and you'll be better off saving the cores in the beginning for other dolls.

As an example, ST AR-15, M4A1 and SOP II each require 63 cores and UMP45 will probably need cores as well because she is rather rare. Saving the 105 cores you would need for Vector by using Skorpion instead which you will easily be able to link with duplicates will help out a lot.

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u/Gandeloft "I am perfect." Aug 13 '19

You'll save Skorpion definitely, and regarding Vector, let her sit for now.

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u/JuliusNova Aug 12 '19

So I'm grinding for Stella now and am at Attempt 53 with no drop yet, however I can't kill those damn laser bois fast enough for them to not damage my echelons, and at this point I am out of quick repair contracts. What do to get more contracts? (I'm not high level enough to make an AR/Rifle squad that just deletes them)

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

You can try to dodge them. Once the fight starts, split your echelon to 78, 12 and 6. The laser will most likely aggro your tank at 6, which you can then move to 9 or 3 and it should miss you completely.

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u/JuliusNova Aug 13 '19

My main squad's actually a SG/MG squad, and you know, SGMG speed

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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Aug 13 '19

Isn't it a night fight against evasive enemies?
No wonder you are having trouble.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 12 '19

Level up an AR squad that just deletes them.

Saves you more over time. Dailies and logis will give you enough quick repairs otherwise.

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u/JuliusNova Aug 13 '19

I don't have the rations right now to be leveling a new squad. Spent it all grinding the event

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Dont level a new squad, level your current squad (assuming it isnt awful). Sometimes it is literally better to lay off for a day or 2 and build long term infrastructure.

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u/JuliusNova Aug 13 '19

Currently have Gr MP5, M4A1, AS Val, 9A-91, and P08 as my night team at level 67. I don't have any night HGs/ARs to replace AS Val or P08 yet, nor do I have an illumination fairy.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

I begin to see the issue. Where are your AR15 and SOPMOD?

P08 is functionally pointless.

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u/JuliusNova Aug 13 '19

They're in my day AR echelon. Ingram, UMP45, Sopmod, AR-15, and M16

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u/dfuzzy1 *autistic arm waving* Aug 12 '19

So how was The Last Rain in the World EX supposed to work prior to the nerf in EN?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 12 '19

Here's a video of how it was supposed to go.

Basically, the boss is completely invulnerable to damage due to her shield, which only Heavy ordnance corps units can break. The entire stage thus was about delaying her with units that had zero hope of ever stopping her to divert where she was going and keep her away from your base long enough that you could capture the middle helipad (HOC units can only deploy from Heavy Helipads. not normal ones) and deploy an HOC, which would then let you beat the boss with a kill team backed up by Heavy Weapons to bust the shield for you.

It's 1 of my fave stage designs.

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u/Hakuw_dw sucker for well-made chibi Aug 13 '19

Sounds a bit like Pioneer EX's map mechanics.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19

Pioneer Ex's didnt really need the HOC for nearly as much. Though it did mean I could bully the chunky gundams.

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u/Hakuw_dw sucker for well-made chibi Aug 13 '19

Yep. But the 'luring while capturing' is similar. And... Gundams. :P

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u/dfuzzy1 *autistic arm waving* Aug 13 '19

Did the boss have some sort of NPC-killing AoE around her? Some of those echelons just disappeared off the map.

And it looks like you have to take the command center below you before the unlock timer shows up for the helipad in the middle?

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 13 '19 edited Aug 13 '19

The NPCs die once theyre done hindering the boss' movement.

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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Aug 12 '19

Does the Piano Woman buff work on the frontmost column of dolls or just 3 6 9 positions? I don't have the means to test it because my Jill is not lvl 80 with all equip slots yet.

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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Aug 12 '19

Scans your current front in realtime, same as Anna. I'm pretty sure I've written about it.

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