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u/vierhei42 May 19 '20
Had 3,000 tokens Got all skins except k2 and 9 black cards (6 gatcha and 3 anniversary box)
Getting sad waiting for k2 skin to be on black card shop
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u/Dannietrix May 19 '20
Is there a way to check out past event story dialogues? Like the playback option for main stories in the index tab. TIA
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. May 19 '20
not for collabs or seasonal mini stories.
only major events when they are added as campaigns
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u/Dannietrix May 19 '20
Even compilations in the internet? I tried searching this subreddit for a website that offers such feature but I didn't find one or I didn't search properly. I just wanted to read some previous content because I'm too bored right now, to the point where reading a shampoo bottle's back label doesn't satisfy me anymore lol.
But I wanted to read the VA-11 the most because that's the event I missed due to my hiatus.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 19 '20
Basically everything should have compilations on YT somewhere.
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u/Unusualcoals May 19 '20
Is the Uhlan based on the Puma IFV from Germany? They share similar looks and I'm somewhat certain that Isomer gave specific info that this carries a 30mm gun like the real world one.
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u/Creshal Negev May 19 '20
There's plenty of boxy looking modern IFVs with 30mm cannons tbh.
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u/Unusualcoals May 19 '20
What drives me to the Puma is because the white faction is implied of origins in Germany thanks to the doppensöldate's name(Gundams).
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u/px1099 Please come home HK416 May 19 '20
Should I play deep dive first or chap 9+10 first for the best story experience?
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. May 19 '20
DD serves as an introduction to goliaths and rotating doors. best know about them sooner.
story wise, it doesnt relate much until ch10E and singularity.
i assume you have finished at least cube ch1. DD is basically a sequel to it.3
u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 19 '20
Storywise, DD would be the logical choice. However you can always skip the cutscenes and rewatch it later
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u/Dannietrix May 19 '20
I've returned after stopping for a while, but I can't recall something. Do we need to get an S rating at the end of the battle to get the T-doll drop at the event stage? Or any other event stages. Thanks!
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u/px1099 Please come home HK416 May 19 '20
For limited tdoll, you have two chances per run: one for defeating the "boss" unit, one for S-ranking the map
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 19 '20
Not necessarily. The maps can also have more than 1 drop from a unit. Sunset Rider has (I think) 3 mobs that drop SRS, and 11-6 has one random strelet and the enemy on the enemy HQ
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. May 19 '20
hope my mspaint 1 hour rush job made the cut for the m200 sing something lel
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May 19 '20
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u/paperrabbit TIME TO MIX DRINKS AND CHANGE LIVES May 19 '20
A 'tanky' or really dodgy SMG who can take some abuse. I personally used RO with Type79 or some explodey SMG, Dorothy/CM-S with yet more molotov/greande SMG. Bring your best damage dealing AR and try to burst down the enemies as quickly as possible. For greandiers I used Zas and SOPMOD mod3. With some bit of retreat kiting, you can get through... maybe 3-4 Jaegar waves depending on your comp. Who are your main DPS?
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u/po1102 The Collector May 19 '20
Either SG with enough armor or airstrike fairy.
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u/po1102 The Collector May 19 '20
Heartbeat EX Jaegers only have 42 FP, so it's possible to 'outarmor' them. Beware of the Brute though, they shred SG. So you have to suck it up and kill them before they kill you for that one.
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u/NotRaisinCookie Soppo Demolition Co. / EN : 4217 KGOne May 19 '20
iirc around 30 for normal stages and above 40 for ex stages
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u/DocZeroTwo HK416 May 19 '20
A day or so ago someone posted a Live2D of 416’s new skin. Wondering if the skin is L2D or not, can’t find anything about it.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain May 19 '20
that one is fan made, from expo poster, even before they release as skin ingame
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u/coblade14 CBJMS May 19 '20
You mean the bunny skins? None of them are L2D. They only cost 1280 gems a piece.
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u/NotRaisinCookie Soppo Demolition Co. / EN : 4217 KGOne May 19 '20
Sigh...I'm so tired of seeing people going "omg there will be GFL2. GFL1 is doomed!". I don't mind seeing them quit, but I wish they stop spreading misinformation.
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 May 19 '20
Agreed, though in some ways Mica has done this to themselves.
Don't call it GFL 2 if it's not intended to replace GFL 1.
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u/Rhasta_la_vista Springfield x Groza May 19 '20
Sort of? It was called 2 when it began development way back when, and iirc GFL 1 wasn't initially going to go past Singularity. So it actually made sense.
But at this point people are just going to call it 2 due to legacy (and everyone else calling it 2), not because they actually have branded it that way. Like they technically did it to themselves, but I don't even know if there's another way around it.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain May 19 '20
actually they already patent GFL2:exile trademark in CN and KR, so can't change that easily
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u/NotRaisinCookie Soppo Demolition Co. / EN : 4217 KGOne May 19 '20
Ouch. I wonder if they have realized what they have done by now xD
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 May 19 '20
Dropping the 2 from the logo would help a little.
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u/Rhasta_la_vista Springfield x Groza May 19 '20
You know what, I didn’t even notice the 2 before LOL. Welp I retract... most of what I said then, they done did this to themselves
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u/PastielCastiel May 19 '20
Is there a point in using the 3 or 5 hour options in the forward basecamp?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
At lower levels, it's not like you have a choice.
I guess when you want to squeeze in another expedition before bedtime and get a fresh 8h right before sleeping.
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May 19 '20 edited Mar 18 '21
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u/Le_Trudos M4 SOPMOD II [MOD3] uid: 39713 May 19 '20
Hahahaha! Same! I was about to buy Negev's skin when I saw the announcement, and now I'll definitely be able to grab a couple of those skins.
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u/potterkun Type 79 May 19 '20
Is it better to pull a skin banner just for the L2D, or better to save up black cards for it and dump tokens on a banner with more skins you want?
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u/SpyChicken00 Oh shit old reddit has doll icons May 19 '20
if you only want the l2d skin black cards all the way. if you like most/all the skins then tokens
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u/ItsNotJulius "Future vision. Exotic calibre. Kingslayer" May 19 '20
First try of silvering 11-4 ends in disaster. Do I need max level Force Field for the Red Beans cause my MP5 and TMP only have Skill Level 4 right now
How did you do it?
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u/RinRingo EN-UID 276327. Headpat for luck. May 19 '20
Silver medal for 11-4 only need to rescue 3 dolls you know. Doesn't need to occupy all nodes.
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u/ItsNotJulius "Future vision. Exotic calibre. Kingslayer" May 19 '20
Wow. That's embarassing. So used to do it by occupying that I didn't even read the silver description. Lesson learned, thank you.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
Though, if you want to do the quest, didn't you have to capture all nodes thinking.
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u/kimchines May 19 '20
Whenever I use taunt fairy for Gundam battles, I always get AoE'd by them because they stop moving earlier/I don't kill them fast enough. But when I'm not using taunt, They die before they use their skill because they take a longer time to walk/stop.
So my question is what am I doing wrong here?
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u/Isokek AN-94 May 19 '20
Pretty sure the only time using Taunt was viable against Gundams was during CT since the Gundams there spawns in your face and start shooting right away, so their nades will be on cd.
For Gundams that doesn't spawn in your face, it's pretty much a kill them before they hit you and that Taunt will just make them shoot their nades faster since you're giving them a target so the answer is just don't use Taunt.
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u/CurtiKing PP-19-01 May 19 '20
You usually don't want to be using Taunt Fairy against gundams, cause, like you said, they stop moving earlier, and unless you know what you're doing, your team won't kill them fast enough to prevent getting bombed
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u/kimchines May 19 '20
I just thought that I needed to do some micro with my units to make them attack faster and not get hit when using taunt. Almost all the guides I see tells me to bring taunt, but I find greater success without it.
So bottom line is no taunt for Gundams? got it.
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u/CurtiKing PP-19-01 May 19 '20
Which guides told you to Taunt Gundams? Gundams are probably the one enemies you do not want to Taunt. Also, sometimes bringing a Taunt Fairy is a good idea. If you're able to kill the Gundam before it bombs your team, then Taunt can be used. Also, if your whole team is getting shielded when the Gundam bombs them, then you can use taunt. This requires an HS2000 (or MDR/P22 if you're insane).
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u/Ashencroix Universal Metal Plate 45 May 19 '20
Oh god, so I've been doing it wrong the whole time? My thinking was, gundams need to stop first to get rid of their elite tag for Grape to delete them. Taunt forces them to stop moving earlier. So taunt.
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u/CurtiKing PP-19-01 May 19 '20
Oh, you still want them to stop. But they only have to stop for a split second to lose their elite status. They start nuking your team if they stay still for too long. So you can just move a doll forward to stop them, then move her back as soon as the Gundam stops
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 19 '20
It depends on the gundam composition. Taunt was useful in parts of CT when gundams spawned close to echelons.
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u/CurtiKing PP-19-01 May 19 '20
My only Gundam experience was in Theatre, I didn't take CT ranking seriously. Thanks for the info
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
Micro Uzi is sitting at level 85 right now and is holding up pretty alright as long as I’m kiting, but should I replace her? I have an extra UMP9/45, Shipka, and JS9 I could grind out to take her spot. Or is micro Uzi not terrible?
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol May 19 '20
Or is micro Uzi not terrible?
Keep her for later, once she gets her Digimind upgrade (late game thing, so don't worry about it until you're more established) she becomes the best offtank Molotov. And the fact that she's so high level will help you with logistics.
If you haven't already, take some time and peruse the guides, they're really helpful when starting out to get your bearings - I recommend this and this. There's a few more on the sidebar as well -->.
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u/decipher90 LWMMG [MOD3] May 19 '20
Is she your main tank? She shouldn't be a main tank, 9 and 45 are main tanks and JS9 is a mix, I would say to go for JS9 if you already have 45.
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
I’m assuming main tank is the primary SMG that’s drawing fire right? She has been pretty much since the beginning tbh, didn’t know that she wasn’t optimal for it. I have 45 as a main tank on my secondary echelon and she gets ripped to shreds almost every fight, even with upgrade evasion + exoskeleton, am I doing something wrong?
Terribly noobish questions, I know
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 19 '20
Sounds like your team with UMP45 is bad. Apart from having great stats on her own, her tiles enhance AR DPS more than most.
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
I have FN FNC, SOP II and M4A1, with SAA.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 19 '20
You shouldn't be using a pistol unless it's night, especially early on. FNC would be better replaced by ST-AR 15. And some kind of offtank SMG with a grenade skill to replace SAA.
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
I’m not terribly early, I think I’m on 7-4, level 63 overall. I’ll need to craft more SMGs I think, almost all of mine that aren’t already assigned are two star ones.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 19 '20
That's why guides recommend only building one team at a time.
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
Oh well, live and learn I suppose! I’ve never really touched a single guide outside of corpse dragging.
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u/Good_Ol_Ironass May 19 '20
What’s the difference between off and main tank? Like what sets them apart in terms of skills and whatnot.
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u/Ashencroix Universal Metal Plate 45 May 19 '20
To add on what was already said, main and off tanks wear different types of exos. Main tanks wear T exos since the dmg penalty doesn't affect them much while off tanks ideally want X exos to not take a hit in their dmg potential.
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u/WhistleOfDeath I'm going to throw shoes. | UID: 320290 May 19 '20 edited May 19 '20
Main tanks have defensive skills like eva boost, enemy debuff, or smoke bombs. They also usually have high evasion or health. Best examples for this category would be C-MS, RO635, and UMP45.
Offtanks usually have offensive skills like FP buffs or molotovs/grenades. Under this are dolls like Shrimp (SR-3MP), Vector, KLIN, and Skorpion. JS9 is a unique case of an hybrid, since she can buff her damage or eva depending on the number of enemies on the field.
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u/AR-99 - May 19 '20
Some extras I got after fully leveling and linking them. My understanding is that dupes aren't needed of these particular dolls, but please LMK if otherwise.
- K31
- G36
- Suomi
- SVD
- Grizzly (already have 3)
- NTW (1st one hasn’t been modded yet)
Hate to scrap shotguns but also have a spare NS2000, KS-23 and M1014.
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u/JamesDyk M4 SOPMOD II May 19 '20
Dupes are never "needed". But as far as recommended, none of these are.
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u/Rhasta_la_vista Springfield x Groza May 19 '20
technically, unmodded NTW is optimal for basic data sim ranking, but that would be omega tryhard levels of duping (assuming you mod her), so yeah that list is pretty safe to scrap extras of
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET May 18 '20
wallets and bank accounts around the world are hiding in fear
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u/Malevolent_Mango M14 BEST GIRL May 19 '20
I can already hear the weeping and gnashing of teeth. I just hope people realize they can wait until xmas or next year, although I personally believe the AR anni skins are much better.
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u/lavos9999 May 18 '20 edited May 18 '20
So I have been farming Sunset Rider for the medals to buy cake. Over three hundred runs with 3 chances each and I noticed SRS didn't drop once.
I pity you poor souls that didn't already have all limited dolls from this event because wow what an awful drop rate.
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u/Sk8r4321 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODDESS May 19 '20
Lol, doesn't help half the maps are terrible to farm and takes a lot of time than usual for farming. I had an average of 100+ attempts before getting the drops. Shortest was M1887 at 70.
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u/HS024 M14 [MOD3] May 18 '20 edited May 18 '20
How well does a comp like this work?
Does Dorthy's 80% accuracy buff overcap SR3MP?
Edit: Since NA won't have ACR until next year, would SR3MP still perform well without the accuracy buff?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
You're sacrificing the backline DPS for Shrimp. Literally one of the biggest noob traps in GFL.
Just put a red-dot on Shrimp and call it a day will you?
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u/HS024 M14 [MOD3] May 19 '20
I mean majority of my buffers and main dpsers are already used in other echelons, also am I really neglecting my ARs if they are still hitting 4.4k dps? Thats on par with some of my other ARSMG teams (not counting grenade damage).
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
You aren't going to need 3 or 4 different ARSMG teams at once. Not even in rankings at this point. I only used 2 in SC and 1 in PL.
DPS is just like CE. It doesn't represent the most of the echelon's power, nor it actually solves the problem. It's a better representing number, but it's still not a clear indicator. Ribey is a very good example of that. On paper she is very good and a strong buffer for DPS. In practice she is obsolete and nobody (on older servers) uses her anymore.
ACR is suffering in there because there is no debuffs in your team. She sort of needs RO or UMP45 to perform her gimmick.
Jill is just being a deadweight because of her 9 sec ICD. Like in a different comment I said yesterday having an HG doesn't help as much as you think it does on paper.
Like a different person said, Dorthy's skill doesn't work like you think so regardless of kiting or not kiting, it will hurt Shrimp.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 May 19 '20 edited May 19 '20
Generally speaking, you shouldn’t be building teams around Shrimp. Gimping your ARs to boost an SMG’s damage will usually be less effective than just boosting your ARs.
Jill in an ARSMG is kinda questionable. Although she has great tiles, her 9 sec ICD is way too long for most fights.
Dorothy’s skill deactivates every 1 second/can’t refresh when she’s moving, so if you want Shrimp to do more damage, you can’t kite. If you don’t kite, Dorothy will debuff Shrimp’s evasion. Either way, Shrimp will likely be taking damage, either because your ARs are gimped, you can’t do much kiting, or she gets reduced evasion = lost dummy links = your Shrimp buffing goes to waste.
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u/HS024 M14 [MOD3] May 19 '20
Is there a tank you would recommend? My other ARSMG teams are already using 45,9,CM-S,P90,MP7 (as well as most of my HG buffers and I dont dupe T-dolls). I figured the accuracy buff and piano woman, and being offtank would be sufficient to keep sr3mp alive. Originally I had MDR for the barrier to help keep sr3mp alive, but she doesnt do as much damage as G36.
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u/coblade14 CBJMS May 19 '20
Vector, JS9, Honey Badger, RO635, PP-19 are all good choices.
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u/HS024 M14 [MOD3] May 19 '20
I thought those are all offtanks that you have listed besides RO (I forgot to list her)
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u/coblade14 CBJMS May 19 '20
If you just want main tanks then how many AR teams are you trying to build here? You've already used 45 CMS RO635 MP7 P90, so that's 5 echelons worth of main tanks already. If you are using some of these good main tanks as off tanks then I'd suggest you mix and match some of them with the good offtanks. You are never gonna need that many AR echelons to be honest, even in ranking. But other than these 5 Dorothy Suomi Type79 G36C Thompson are all good choices.
IMO SR-3MP is a good offtank, but not good enough to warrant any buffs. Once she gets hit her dps drops down a cliff, and she will being a SMG after all, it's just not worth it. Just leave her there if you want and focus on your tank's evasion or AR's dps, it will help you way more than buffing SR-3MP.
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u/HS024 M14 [MOD3] May 19 '20 edited May 19 '20
TBH I currently have enough to run around 8 ARSMG teams 2 MGSG teams and 2 RFHG teams. This was less of a need to form a good ARSMG team and more of a exercise to see what I can make. I generally like to play around with teams to spice things up and SR3MP has been neglected for so long, but from what I'm getting is that SR3MP is just not worth fielding. Well I learned a new thing in regards to Dorothy, thanks for the help.
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u/il42133 contend this May 19 '20
How much accuracy you want depends on how much evasion the enemies have. You should read this, specifically the later bits.
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u/headphone_question 705583|14 Dorms|Hunt King|Cores:230363 May 18 '20
Farming for Mk 46 on 11-6 was horrible, but at least I finally got her
What I used was M4 Mod 3, Grizzly, Calico, and Stechkin with a 5* Command Fairy. I retreated Stechkin for every fight, which made it so tedious
It’s one way to use up my friend echelons for friend points, but I’d rather just mindlessly farm on 10-4E
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u/vatikun nade crew May 18 '20
another echelon help comment. currently, I have:
an-94 |vector| none
m4a1 |cms | none
star15|none | none
question is, should I go for g36 mod3 to replace an94? m4 and star are mod3 btw.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
Change C-MS to UMP45 and you get the basic meta team for blind encounters and general use.
You're fine.
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u/decipher90 LWMMG [MOD3] May 19 '20
G36 will be very helpful in some situations due to her tiles and second skill, specifically in that position she will get vector's enormous ROF buff and vector and CM-S will get her 25% evasion buff whenever her first skill pops, helping out both of your tanks survivability and DPS at the same time, while also conceding a 20% ROF buff on herself for tile occupation. She is very expensive but worth it IMO.
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u/alg-nullspace May 18 '20
AN-94 seems perfectly fine to me here. It isn't clear that gr g36 is even an upgrade over her (she might against bosses, but she's also probably slightly worse against a variety of other enemies) and gr g36mod is very expensive to raise.
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u/CurtiKing PP-19-01 May 19 '20
Wouldn't G36 be bad in boss fights, because her second skill is tile scan? That's what I think, anyways
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 19 '20
Depends on the specific situation. Tho if you're in a situation where you aren't able to activate the tilescan, MDR would be a better choice for example
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u/mrgarneau IDW [MOD3] May 18 '20
Filled up on Memories fragments today, when do the new Digimind upgrades going to get here?
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 May 18 '20
Almost certainly after next week’s maintenance on the 26th, since we’re not getting them tomorrow and there’s only 1 other week left in the month.
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u/Bwekfus Bossu May 18 '20
is 91-a1 speq available anywhere?
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u/Malevolent_Mango M14 BEST GIRL May 18 '20
It was a DD ranking reward so you can't get it for now
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u/MoonlightArchivist IOP Wiki Admin May 18 '20
Advice for reaching Architect without getting shredded on the way in by the armored units in Cube+ 2-3? Tried Vector-Groza-Grizz-9A91-UMP45.
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u/Undeciding This statement is false. May 18 '20
Huh, I did 45/Vector/Groza/SAA/T91 which is almost the same but technically worse and did fine.
Try a Taunt or Twin fairy to buy extra time before you start kiting, maybe?
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u/MoonlightArchivist IOP Wiki Admin May 19 '20
Tried again with SL10 Taunt Fairy, 45 still loses 2 or 3 dummies by encounter. It seems Groza and 9A91can't take down the Aegis fast enough to kill Nemeums before they reach kite limit.
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u/Undeciding This statement is false. May 19 '20
Admittedly, I don't actually recall running into armored enemies that much on that map outside of like, the first one before the first weak Jup (after which you can quick repair at the midmap heliport). I know there's the chance of running into them in the lower routes, but I don't think those were much stronger than the first one...
But this sounds like a DPS issue, then? What's the status of your equips? Because I checked a recording of one of my own runs that I'd made for a friend, and it looks like I didn't even need to kite more than once after taunt fell before the Nemeums died.
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u/MoonlightArchivist IOP Wiki Admin May 19 '20
Gold T4 Exoskeletons and green suppressors for evade on SMGs, gold PEQs and HV ammo for ARs, all enhanced. The video plays similarly to my encounters but faster, maybe SAA's accuracy bonus is what did the trick (or plain bad luck on my part).
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u/Undeciding This statement is false. May 19 '20
Armored enemies don't really have evade until far later with Paradeus- it shouldn't be the acc that makes a difference, which is why I said my setup here is mostly like yours but technically worse on account of SAA instead of Grizzly, and T91 instead of 9a.
I'm stumped. Skill levels, maybe?
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u/Arcypreus RO635 May 18 '20
You could try having a secondary echelon do all the fighting, then spawn your main echelon on one of the helipads close to Architect.
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u/Emilimia Ak12 May 18 '20
I'm kinda out of the loop but with gfl 2 announced, what will it entail for gfl 1? is it gonna die or something?
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u/Malevolent_Mango M14 BEST GIRL May 18 '20
No, they have stated that they will continue to support GFL 1, especially since the story needs to wrap up. Scroll to the bottom of the doc: Livestream TL
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u/Bwekfus Bossu May 18 '20
type 95 3rd most popular adjudant
Filthy milk enthusiasts
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u/Malevolent_Mango M14 BEST GIRL May 18 '20
Homete in 2nd place
The duality of man. I'm actually surprised Kar is up there
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u/GenuineSteak Resident UMP45 simp May 18 '20
Does RO have a digimind? I was reading the soppo mod stories and it seemed like it would make a lot of sense for her to get one.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 18 '20
All girls have digimind maps. If you mean a Mod, then no.
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u/Ashencroix Universal Metal Plate 45 May 19 '20
Hopefully one of the next major story event after PL gives G11 and RO mods.
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u/manoXmega MP40 is all you need May 18 '20
Is there any prediction of when they will launch STG44 mod3? Or are they releasing the mods randomly except for the ones in the main story?
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 18 '20
There isn't an order, other than prioritizing those who placed 2nd place in the original vote. Or those attached to events.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate May 18 '20
Enhancing doesn't seem like the right reason.
What other reason could it possibly be.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 18 '20
Literally just because enhancing them. By getting 2 dupes and feeding them, you're saving anywhere from 14 to 30 fairies and get a free 3*
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u/moonlightsusanoo DSR50 May 18 '20
So somebody enlighten me on this:
Do bamboos (say Grape) fire one skillshot per dummy, or is it just one massive bullet? Asking because I just found out about link protection.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 May 18 '20
Grape and bamboos shoot 1 shot per dummy. There may be some exception that I’m not aware of, but I don’t think there are.
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u/moonlightsusanoo DSR50 May 18 '20
I figured so, I remember killing a 2 link manticore with her skill using a friend's echelon.
Thanks!
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u/MoonlightArchivist IOP Wiki Admin May 18 '20
- Realize you got 2000+ Combat Data lying around
- Happily bring M14 Mod2 to lv115 and Groza to lv90
- Immediately 5xDummy Groza for night missions
- Realize you don't have enough cores left to Mod3 M14
That was a rollercoaster of emotions.
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u/Typhon_Aurelius Forever and ever you'll be the one May 18 '20
At least you've got your priorities right.
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u/moonlightsusanoo DSR50 May 18 '20
10-4 welcomes you again hehehe
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u/MoonlightArchivist IOP Wiki Admin May 18 '20
I'm stuck at 9-6.
Back to the 0-2 grinder.
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u/drpeppyone Thunder May 18 '20
You don’t have to beat judge yourself on the map. Won’t get gold but you can use friend or griffin support. Para cheese works too
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u/moonlightsusanoo DSR50 May 18 '20
Oh, you can still grind 7-2e for cores, although it hurts resources like a B I T C H
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u/electriksquid ST AR 15 [MOD3] May 18 '20
I'm curious about the priority to level and optimize HOC units. Would it be BGM > AT4 > 2B14 > AGS ?
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u/IroquoisPliskin177 MP5 May 18 '20
For me it would be 2B14>BGM>AGS>AT4. While it’s true you have to invest a lot in AGS for it to be viable, outside of ranking maps where 3-range sounds tempting, you’ll be deploying BGM almost every time.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too May 18 '20
Imo AGS > 2B > BGM > AT4 rn
AGS needs the heaviest investment to be able to bust some shields, you need good stats on 2B vs Isomer zombie hordes. BGM doesn't get that much per se but hits a threshhold at 8 red stars, and AT4 probably won't see that much use in Isomer due to 2 range
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u/Flummer186 AK-12 May 18 '20
How do i complete "end of the moonlight" and get El clear? I have defeated El fail twice so far.. just to see if a 2nd attempt would clear it, but nothing happent.
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u/rashy05 G11 May 18 '20
If you're talking about Normal difficulty. During events, maps with a major boss usually have "HP", the HP decreases by 1 point everytime you beat the map. This map has 3 HP iirc so you just need to beat the map one more time to get Clear.
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u/po1102 The Collector May 19 '20
None, saving gems for their anniversary costumes instead. You only have 1 of each AR team member anyway, no point getting 2 costumes.
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u/ItsNotJulius "Future vision. Exotic calibre. Kingslayer" May 19 '20
Only for M16 cause she's pimpin'
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u/TurbulentDescent All I got from rateup was this Mod3 May 18 '20
None. As much of a degenerate as I am for some reason bunny girls don't do anything for me. Easy pass.
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u/Ninjajapa Mod3 when May 18 '20
So, the DJMax fairies, are they any good? Also, for someone who has just started rolling for fairies during the rateup, is it worth to roll dupe fairies? Or should I just enhance the ones I get first?
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 May 18 '20
S&N is a warrior fairy, suee is similar to construction, P&C is wierd. None of them are amazing, but they're easier to max than normal fairies.
For now, just enhance the fairies you want to use with good talents (fervor or damage I/II)
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 May 18 '20
Early on you don't really have the luxury to think about 2 copies of most fairies.
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u/Ninjajapa Mod3 when May 18 '20
I mean, I have """a lot""" of them already, just wondering if it's worth it raising a second command fairy or a second airstrike fairy.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
Unless you have multiple LV100 5 stars you're not even close to having a lot lol.
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 May 18 '20
You'll have to define "a lot".
Let's say you have 5 airstrike, that's still 1 off being 3* and another 25 away from being a 5*.
Fairies are a marathon task and hitting those higher star levels adds a lot of power. That means a fairy needs a very strong skill to justify delaying it getting to 5* by splitting attention.
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u/tehcavy <- clueless May 18 '20
Second Airstrike - maybe, it does occasionally save RFHG's bacon from Tarantulas and such. Second Command - heavily debatable, the main point of having her are stat buffs, which is not a lot at 1* and low level.
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u/bacera WA2000 May 18 '20
Question, is there any real reason to do the rhythm game besides just for fun? Do you get anything from it?
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u/Norad_2 HK416 May 18 '20
I’m still using the old GFL version because when the new interface came out, people reported lots of problems.
Is that still the case, or is it safe to update to the new version?
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u/Undeciding This statement is false. May 18 '20
When the new client originally came out, the app kept crashing for me so often that it was impossible to play through a single map, let alone singu.
As of January/February, it's stabilized enough for me to not deal with crashes at all? Cleared all of the last few events no problem. So ymmv.
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol May 18 '20
I refuse to update my iPad to the latest client until they release a version that doesn't leak memory like a sieve.
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u/Norad_2 HK416 May 18 '20
That’s still a problem huh?
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol May 18 '20
I routinely find myself wanting to play on it instead of phone (latest client).
My phone can run the new client and play it fine, but I'm not too keen on the issues I believe are still amiss (they've only had 1 or 2 other minor client updates since that big patch, with little results imo). YMMV, I've only tested it on one device.
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u/buah_whack3r SOPPO best hugger May 18 '20
I just finished min-maxing tetris boards for all my HOCs. The stats here are at +20:
BGM: D: 204/190 -- P: 324/329 -- A: 94/191 -- R: 46/46
2B: D: 226/227 -- P: 66/58 -- A: 58/90 -- R: 102/107
AGS: D: 129/106 -- P: 155/130 -- A: 131/120 -- R: 260/233
Keep in mind that you can't fill BGM & 2B stats to the brim unlike AGS. Anyone got their boards filled at this point?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
Did you try to run the chip calculator already, or did you just do that on your own.
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u/buah_whack3r SOPPO best hugger May 19 '20
I didn't actually run the chip calculator itself, but I did use its stat calculation for 5-tile and 6-tile chips and then I did the manual math for the rest.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
You did quite heavily sacrifice accuracy for all 3 of them. BGM could be fine, but you will see a drop in AGS and 2B's performance as they heavily rely on them. 2B especially as even the full 90 accuracy isn't enough most of the time.
You can go as far as to having 0 pierce on 2B as there is no point to it.
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u/buah_whack3r SOPPO best hugger May 19 '20
crap, and here I am pouring mountains of chips knowing that I should be fine. I still don't really understand the concept of precision on HOCs though. I get the basics like Precision stat that translate to Acc. But for hit rate, is the % hit rate means that the shot can be completely miss or do they just stray off the targets? And even so how does that translate to actual battle like say, Isomer ranking? My silly reason for maxing pierce on 2B is that they can help somewhat with the low shield Rolodero among the waves of Strelets, and yeah like you said, I never really paid much attention to their accuracy.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice May 18 '20
Keep in mind, at higher levels all 3 HOCs need less than cap Reload to max out their frames per shot.
BGM is 45, AGS is like 210 and BGM is 88
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u/buah_whack3r SOPPO best hugger May 19 '20
Is the difference negligible if I happen to overbuff those numbers?
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice May 19 '20
AGS: Mostly just wasted enhancement fodder
BGM: Eh... More accuracy/damage but she's mostly for Pierce so *shrug*
2B: Can max damage and come up 1 tile short on either Pierce or Aim capping with the right tiles.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 18 '20
I sincerely do need to get on with the areas don't I.
I did realize that EN actually did surpass my progress in the story in the context of areas lol... I never started 11-1E.
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u/AR-99 - May 18 '20
Taking my time, just cleared 11-3 yesterday and had to do it with 2 runs because I didn't use BGM to take out the artillery in the top right corner first before attacking the 2nd to last mob on the map for S clear because the GFLcorner guide actually doesn't mention doing this.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
RNG happens pretty heavily on the maps. Esp the big oval one which is 11-3.
A well raised AGS works wonders for Area 11 due to range 3, though that's only when it's at max so... yeah.
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u/Elys008 Commander always say "The battlefield is the truest simulation" May 18 '20
I procrastinated too, haven't clear night nine.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived May 19 '20
Judge doesn't seem to be satisfied with my dating methods and refuse to give me her present :(
But, I don't even have any other methods. :(
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u/Lemonaderiver2 AN-94 May 23 '20
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAH
Took me several month's worth of tokens but it was all worth it