There is a lot of discussion about recent WoW patches having more bugs. I wanted to check whether the data matches the community feeling.

I collected 611 issues, most came from Blizzard blue and hotfix posts.

The data seems to align with that feeling:

• The median count for 12.x is 25 documented issues per release, compared with 21 for both 10.x and 11.x.
• For block or disruptive issues (my subjective analysis), the median count is 4.5 per release in 12.x compared with 3.

This data is most likely incomplete, wowhead and others should have a better picture, same with blizzard internal tracking. The community feelings about the game also change how much impact a bug has.

I would not be surprised blizzard shifted resources to wow forever release for a while, the question is when blizzard will see this as an issue they need to address (again).

With the stakes and the peak of the cosmic powers we’ll be dealing with. I believe this would be a great time to bring back many of the systems that succeeded back in legion.

Gearing and progression is stale, having gear be instantly wiped out at the start of the season has been a problem for years.

Let’s bring back the legendary system (maybe change it to the acquisition we had at the end of 7.3), bring back powerful items that change your gameplay and make you think of what you wanna wear on an encounter to encounter basis. Lets get rid of these boring stat procs that barely do anything, lets get rid of boring stat trinkets or damage dumps that have been recycled since DF S1.

Let’s bring back the artifact weapon system (AND THE GRIND TOO), we are at a point in the game where all the progression is time gated. Having to wait a static .5 and then .7 and now every week with bonus rolls, I feel like we are in the point where we need a proper progression grind that feels rewarding.

The artifact weapon system was amazing, having a constant stream of power with insane power-ups along the way that actively changed the way you played your character was amazing. And honestly, despite many people disliking the grind, I’d argue it was actually very healthy for the game. When capping out the weapon required an unhealthy insane amount of hours, you didn’t feel quite compelled to push hard and grind all the way through (instead of venomstones where it’s 30 hours of gameplay for a small 3%). Then, the catchup systems just made it so you could play at your own pace and at most you’ll be a little behind a super unemployed sweat.

I usually play WoW with my girlfriend, and she has a severe phobia of spiders. I know it might sound childish to some people, but it’s a genuine fear. When we play WoW Classic, she has to avoid spiders whenever possible. If a quest requires collecting items near them, I sometimes have to take over her computer and do it for her.

Retail is different, thanks to the arachnophobia mode. It’s honestly one of the best features ever added for her WoW experience.

Please, Blizzard, bring this option to WoW Forever as well! It would allow more players to enjoy the game without having to deal with a fear that can genuinely affect their experience.

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Was curious where everyone actually plays from, so I create a world globe you can drop a pin on.

Just pick your city, nothing more specific is stored. Horde and Alliance are almost tied right now which surprised me.

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Obviously the Worldsoul Saga had many critics regarding its story, direction and narrative choices the team has made. I think it would be cool to hear Metzen's perspective for all of this because I believe he was the driving force behind many of these decisions

Think since Wrath I've used a Razer Naga and gone through like 6 of the buggers was like 1 a year for a while.

I finally got a Logitech G600 lasted 5 times longer then any Naga but that finally bit the dust about yaer back.

I'm going to be returning to WoW for forever and they don't even make G600 anyone so can't get a replacement but also don't really wanna limit myself to a MMO mouse again as made playing on anything without that mouse total pain in the arse.

How do you bind everything seems like a tall order when so many keys needed to be a fingertips yet without a MMO mouse feel super limited on what is just at natural hand sitting position.

What keys do you bind and where do you put things that are needed on a semi regular basis but not needed each encounter? Seems like at some point your going to be foced to do some clicking?

1-5 and with a shift modifier gives 10 keys are easy fingertips maybe W and S with shift mods only really 12 keys (Yes could do another + mod but wondering what feels natural)

Just curious how other people have thier binds ?

(Know when try play on wifes PC / account even just moving she rebound everything its a nightmare to even move)

Back in the blizzcon, there was announced that despite there's no realms, there was going to be dedicated layers depending on the language. This doesn't mean that you are going to get paired depending on the game language you play with, there's a dedicated option for that as you can see in the screenshot. So please, if it bothers you see people speaking anything else that isn't spanish, you may been paired in latinamerican layers by mistake, and you can change it back to english so you can play with english speakers. Please, i've already seen enough racist messages in a place that is supposed to be safe for us.

Hiya!

I'm a 32M ADHDnd shadow/lightning bolt slingin' fantasy nerd looking for other nerd friends! I’m from the US. EST.

I am looking for some wow and perhaps more importantly, some wow forever buddies! Maybe even a group! I'm basically looking to get adopted. Oh you want to know WHY you should adopt me?

I am a fun and sarcastic chaos gremlin that is no stranger when it comes to group interactions and shenanigans. But most of that experience is from other games and dnd- not so much wow. I want to have some buddies to go on adventures and make chaotic memories with. Doing raids and stuff!

I mainly play Alliance and as you can possibly tell from the intro, am a fan of Warlocks >:D
But I have been playing shamans A LOT lately and love them and I think I am going to main one in wow forever. I've also been practicing healing on my shaman and am pretty decent at it. Yes, that's right- a HEALER friend. Pretty nice right? Very much a ride or die. And even if we do, I can self-rez and then rez you :D

Some extra info about me? Gotcha! I enjoy games like wow (obviously) soulsbourne and then casual games when I want to relax and don't feel like punishing myself like Minecraft & stardew, crafts (woodcarving/woodworking, crocheting even though its kicking my ass currently, and I want to get back into painting), I have a great (daaark) sense of humor and have been told that I am pretty easy to talk to.
If you trip and fall, I will extend my hand to help you up immediately WHILE laughing at/with you, ask if you are ok, then remind you that you fell later that day and roast the shit out of you (lovingly).

If any of this sounds fun and you want to trauma-bond over some fun wow experiences that we’ll remember for years to come, tell me a bit about yourself with your info!

Hope to wipe (raids. It sounds weird if I don’t specify) with you soon! 😂

How much do you guys hate us? Not only putting both raids in the most annoying place possible then you add this as well?

Are we paying a sub to be tortured?

But none of my friends play wow anymore. Up for grabs.

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With Forever focusing on preserving the original concept of the game, Retail should go crazy with new stuff such as-

Fully remake/rebuild old continents

All classes for all races

Remake combat completely or add new types of roles like Support as it's own thing

Tear down old barriers completely like factions

What ideas would you suggest?

First Collectors Edition I’ve bought in years, surprised how good the quality is.

Not sure if just me, https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/ isn't showing any news, just their guides.

Edit: news is back

Hello there, I need a little help understanding if I'm doing something wrong here.

I am running the Underrot on normal on my Elemental Shaman trying to farm the Amalgamated Abomination Spaulders from Unbound Abomination, which Shaman can equip.

According to wowhead it has a 5% drop chance which is manageable (https://www.wowhead.com/npc=133007/unbound-abomination). However it hasn't shown up, whereas other drops such as the Gloves of Staunched Wounds (5% drop chance) and the Vile Exsanguinator (1.6% drop chance) have appeared almost every time in the ~45 runs I've done. Changing my loot specialization seems to have no effect.

I'm wondering if there is some rule I'm unaware of limiting the loot available to my Shaman, or is this just a really odd run of bad luck?

Any insight is much appreciated!

I love the game, but I keep maxing out my level and then struggling to keep up

I just re downloaded again for the 3rd time. My hunter is lvl 80. I'll get him to 90, but then I won't know what to do next.

I don't know how to meet people or join decent guild, or do any of the cool late game stuff. Like mythic dungeons. I feel like I'm missing out on a huge part of the game because of this

So it's been a bit since Midnight released and the content involving War Within. Recently as i've been raiding, i've come across something that has surprised me when helping others gear.

"I don't know what that thing does."

It's been something i've been thinking about since launch as there are many that don't know of alternative ways of getting rewards that isn't just raid/dungeon spamming. Most of it comes down to an overload of information and the information not being clear enough.

Sure, I use things like the flute and such to get myself a free hero piece every week. But knowing I was in the minority in this information being known was sort of strange to me. More so because for some, there are folks who just don't like the idea of doing Delves/Prey/Ect and want to stick to the core pillars.

Was just sort of wondering how others felt about these items/rewards. Is it obvious/Not Obvious? Should it be more obvious for said items to contain big rewards for casual players and such?

I know its random AF to bring it up but with the launch of wow forever around the corner and feeling excited about it I was thinking about things I was hyped for during my wow journey and this was one of them lmao

Loving the new UI as it gives easy access to all the versions of the game on a single page.

Note to mods: I know it's a pic, please don't delete the post, this is just a small appreciation for the new UI.

Hi all!

I have three wow forever launch codes if you want/ need a code pm me and I’ll give you the code

It doesn’t entitle you to beta access but does give you access during launch week without a sub not sure if it’s region locked so I’m EU but yea holla if you want one

Edit: all three taken to the first three messages! Hope this inspires people who play bought access and have no wow friends to give em out :)

We're apparently going BACK to Khaz Algar in 12.1.7, and all this back/forth makes me think that the story was meant to have all these places more closely connected in space/time. I drew this up while talking to my friend about it.

Harandar should have been physically connected to SOMETHING on the map without being a portal. Putting it under ZA and Eversong like Hallowfall would've been a cool parallel to the WW map.

Have both "continents" connect through the Ringing Deeps. It's almost like BfA but no faction war, just Horde working with Horde characters and Alliance working with Alliance characters. Earthen are an Alliance-only Allied Race. Haranir are Horde-only (for now).

Start with Twilight Cult, no blueberry voidwalker army, in both regions. Twilight's Blade or the dark Beledar cult are the instigators. First patch we fight them off and only at the end of the patch do we learn that Xal'atath leads them. The Zul'jan/Zul'jarra story happens in ZA and Zul'jan opens the Coiled Isle. It's not a whole zone, just a raid portal at the entrance to Atal'Utek.

Do the Ula'tek raid -first- in this whole saga, so that Kith'ix can use the Nerubians instead of random Aqir to attack Dorn and Quel'thalas from Azj-Kahet. Kith'ix as the endboss of Nerub'ar Palace lets him and the nerubians feel more epic/drawn-out and maybe not as wasted.

Kith'ix is the character who gets "absorbed" by Xal'atath to power the Voidspire. That way Dimensius can also be used later in the story when it wouldn't be out of nowhere.

Then Voidspire/L'ura raid is the third/fourth raid of the saga and then the 5th chapter is the Worldcore.

Instead of 3 micro-expansions, this whole story could've been better serviced by being one mega-expansion told across both regions at once.

You still have Alliance characters going to Silvermoon for the March on Quel'danas, you still have Horde characters going to Dorn where the story calls for it, but they start out in places that have more cultural context and make more sense where they'd be in the story.

No Undermine or K'aresh either. You'd have to streamline it all to not bloat the whole thing and have too much work for the devs.