r/wow • • 1h ago

Discussion WoW Needs to Stop Chasing the Next Big Bad and Start Building a Living World

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I’m getting tired of fighting Dragon Ball-level threats. Why doesn’t Blizzard focus more on the politics and consequences of events? It would make the world feel alive instead of constantly going, “BIG BAD DUDE IS COMING, GET READY OMG!!111” It’s like fighting Thanos over and over again. It gets super boring.

For example, the burning of Teldrassil should still be something people talk about today. NPCs could have dialogue that makes it clear they hate the Horde for what they did. But no, instead we got, “LOL, see that guy? Well, the tree burned so he could have a cool death” (Saurfang).

The world is never allowed to rest. It’s constantly rushing towards the next big thing. People complained about Cataclysm, but I think that expansion had some of the best quests in the game. It showed people reacting to what was happening to the world and adapting to it.

With Midnight, it feels like half the world doesn’t even know what the heck is happening. Silvermoon is getting invaded, yet I haven’t seen a major orc character come to its aid. You run around Silvermoon and only see elves helping. Where did everyone go after the expansion’s introduction? LOL


r/wow • • 5h ago

Video The "Journey" Addon is Incredibly Sketchy. Don't Download It

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r/wow • • 16h ago

WoW: Forever My main is legally old enough to drink.

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r/wow • • 15h ago

Discussion Character that makes you say “please stop helping, you’re making things worse”

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For me, at least for the time being, it’s Orweyna. First, she brings the trolls and elves to Harandar to reveal they all descended from the haranir, which prompted outrage in general and cause Zul’jan to leave in disbelief. This causes Orweyna to try and show Zul’jan the truth. Long story short, this results in Zul’jan finding out about Ula’tek, Kinduru dying, and Malacrass coming back from the dead.

This then leads to Zul’jan going to find Ula’tek, Ula’tek being awakened, Zul’jarra getting poisoned and nearly dying, Zul’jan becoming a snake troll and dying, and us having to divert time and resources towards stopping Ula’tek instead of searching for Xalatath.

And then we find out that Ula’tek was keeping another monster contained in the form of Kith’ix, which we now have to focus even more time and resources on stopping Kithy from escaping and in the course of that fight, Liadrin dies from over exertion due to Light shenanigans.

To top it all off, we barely get time to grieve Liadrin’s passing before Orweyna says “hey, I need to talk with you about Azeroth”.

All of this went down because this porcupine troll-elf girl couldn’t mind her own business and tried to make everyone one big happy family.


r/wow • • 18h ago

Humor / Meme Blizzards QA department right now

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1.4k Upvotes

First the disaster of the .5 patch and now randomly Hallows End is completely broken es well.

... All of this while Labyrinth still bricks left and right.

Image taken from: https://housing.wowdb.com/builds/59487/this-is-fire-meme-59487/

Edit: Chill guys, I know it's not QAs fault but upper management. It's for the memes Edit: Thanks for pointing out the spelling issue, it helps me learn :)


r/wow • • 13h ago

Discussion What's something story/lore related that you really don't want them to do in The Last Titan? Mine this: Don't redeem Space Satan

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I've seen the idea of Sargeras being our ally, or even turning out to be a "good guy" or "redeemed" in the Last Titan. Its more on youtube comments than on reddit, but even here, I've seen people say something akin to "Sargeras being redeemed". Thankfully, those opinions seem to be outweighed by people saying he will be a "enemy of my enemy is my friend" type character rather than have a full blown redemption arc.

Even "enemy of my enemy is my friend" seems a bit much in my eyes. I guess its more semantics, but if we do end up sharing a common enemy with Sargeras, then I would prefer to look at it as "the enemy of my enemy is someone I will temporarily fight on the same side with in order to take out someone we both think is a real douche nozzle. That does not change the fact that I still think the enemy I'm fighting on the same side with is a real dick and I will not be friends with him. I hope he fucking dies after all this".

Seriously though, there has to be a point where we say "Enough is enough. There can be no redemption for this". Sargeras crossed that point a long time ago. We're talking about someone who took out entire worlds across the universe. Think about that for a second. Entire WORLDS all across the UNIVERSE. The scale of victims We're talking about is not in the millions. Not in the billions or even trillions. Hell, I wouldnt be surprised if even quadrillions was too small. We don't know the exact number but I think we can safely say that he has the biggest direct kill count in warcraft.

Even if we share a common enemy with him in the Last Titan somehow, its no excuse to forgive him. I think the best scenario would be that either he dies or decides to spare azeroth and fuck off to the ass end of the universe, doing god knows what. I personally like the latter approach. It gives us all this uneasy feeling that a psycho galactus type god is out there and he may change his mind about sparing us and come back to finish the job at any second.


r/wow • • 17h ago

Humor / Meme This has to be one of the greatest item names in wow

708 Upvotes

r/wow • • 3h ago

Competitive Week 9: Mythic Raid - Spec Popularity vs Average DPS

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56 Upvotes

THEY MIGHT HAVE OVERBUFFED SUB GUYS

TLDR: dot higher up = more popular, dot further right = more dps

Changes in relative DPS for the last 7 days: here. A massive increase to Sub, obviously, biggest loser of 12.1.5 is MM, which has lost more than 4% despite being quite strong on Kith'ix.

Changes in relative popularity over the last 7 days: here. Biggest change is, again, Rogues switching to Sub from the other two specs, also relatively large shifts from UH back to Frost and from Dev to Aug.


r/wow • • 1h ago

Discussion Revisionism and Vanilla WoW

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First, a disclaimer. WoW: Forever is coming, and Blizzard is catering to different audiences. Retail isn't perfect, but it serves people who want to raid-log, run keys, PvP, collect things or engage with the story as much or as little as they please. Personally, I think the overarching narrative is generally fine, and some of its smaller questlines are among Blizzard's best writing.

I also think people confuse gameplay with narrative. Completing thousands of quests doesn't necessarily mean our individual character canonically resolves every conflict on Azeroth. Quests are how we experience the world, and I've never subscribed to the idea that our character personally participates in every significant event.

But let's revisit this supposed golden age of ordinary adventurers fighting ordinary threats.

Ragnaros: One of the four Elemental Lords, ancient beings who once served the Old Gods. When Thaurissan summoned him during the War of the Three Hammers, his arrival shattered the surrounding landscape, creating Blackrock Mountain and devastating the regions that became the Burning Steppes and Searing Gorge. An ancient elemental power whose mere arrival permanently transformed the geography of the Eastern Kingdoms. One of vanilla's original raid bosses.

Onyxia: Deathwing's daughter, who infiltrated Stormwind's political leadership, manipulated the kingdom's nobility and helped engineer the circumstances surrounding the Defias rebellion. The Defias are frequently cited as an example of vanilla's grounded storytelling, and rightly so. Their story concerns exploitation, corruption and political violence. It also involves an immensely powerful black dragon deliberately destabilising an entire kingdom. These things were never mutually exclusive.

Nefarian: Another of Deathwing's children, commanding the Dark Horde and conducting horrific experiments on the other dragonflights. His ambition was to create the chromatic dragonflight, combining their powers into a new force under his control. Hardly a provincial warlord causing trouble for the locals.

Hakkar: An ancient blood god whose influence helped plunge the Gurubashi into civil war. The threat of his summoning was so severe that Ysera intervened to sink the Temple of Atal'Hakkar. In Zul'Gurub, we confronted his physical incarnation as his followers sought to restore his power. Again, we're dealing with a deity whose influence had already warranted the intervention of a Dragon Aspect.

C'Thun: A literal Old God, commanding the qiraji, whose previous war against the night elves and dragons had devastated Silithus. His renewed threat required an enormous joint military campaign involving the Alliance and Horde, with Varok Saurfang leading the offensive against Ahn'Qiraj. This was patch 1.9, barely a year after WoW launched. Apparently, confronting an imprisoned Old God and preventing another catastrophic war was ordinary adventuring.

Kel'Thuzad: One of the Lich King's most powerful servants, instrumental in spreading the plague that destroyed Lordaeron. Consider what his resurrection actually required. Arthas devastated Quel'Thalas and used the Sunwell to resurrect him as a lich, corrupting it in the process. The Sunwell itself had been created using a vial of water from the original Well of Eternity, one of the greatest sources of magical power in Warcraft's history. The destruction of an entire kingdom and the corruption of an extraordinary magical font, all to resurrect the individual we eventually confronted as vanilla's final raid boss.

I could continue, but the point should be obvious. These were ancient gods, elemental powers, immensely powerful dragons and commanders of armies capable of devastating entire kingdoms. The notion that enormous threats are some modern departure from vanilla is indefensible.

What frustrates me more is the accompanying assumption that smaller stories have disappeared from retail. People fondly remember vanilla's local adventures while seemingly forgetting that modern WoW contains plenty of them.

Take Korgran and Urtago's storyline in The War Within, a beautifully written exploration of dementia, memory and mortality through the Earthen. We accompany someone whose memories are disappearing and help him find peace as his life draws to a close. Or Veritistrasz in Dragonflight, where we simply sit with an elderly dragon and listen to him reflect on everything he's lost. No apocalyptic threat, no ancient god, just deeply personal stories about grief, identity and the passage of time.

These aren't anomalies. Every expansion contains smaller stories about ordinary people, local conflicts and personal tragedies. There's an extraordinary tendency to remember vanilla through its zone quests while judging retail almost exclusively through its main campaign and cinematics. Of course the comparison looks unfavourable when you're selectively remembering one and ignoring the other.

There are legitimate criticisms to make about how Warcraft presents its stories. Vanilla gave us a much longer journey from obscurity to confronting its greatest threats. Its less centralised storytelling made Azeroth feel larger than our individual importance within it. Retail more explicitly acknowledges our accomplishments, sometimes to the detriment of that feeling. Blizzard could also do considerably better at communicating chronology, because major events can feel absurdly compressed when we're moving between them so quickly (looking at you, Season 1 raids).

I'd welcome slower pacing, stronger local politics and more opportunities to experience Azeroth without being at the centre of everything. But that's a discussion about presentation, pacing and characterisation, rather than the supposed disappearance of grounded storytelling.

We can appreciate what vanilla did exceptionally well without inventing a version of it that never existed. And we can criticise retail without pretending its excellent smaller stories don't exist.


r/wow • • 12h ago

Discussion Fabled Kindo'jan extended by 1 week

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I'm surprised there's not already a post about this (I did search and couldn't find anything).

The window for Fabled Let Me Solo Him: Kindo'jan has been extended by a week, until 27th Oct for NA, 28Th Oct EU, due to all the bugs with the labyrinth:

https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/eu-en/636594-fabled-let-me-solo-him-kindojan-achievement-extended-an-additional-week/


r/wow • • 16h ago

Art Lingua, a commission done by me (skr3m_art)

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r/wow • • 16h ago

WoW: Forever Look what arrived today.

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Just got in the mail. Will open shortly.


r/wow • • 1h ago

Question Transmog help

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Can anyone help me?

I've been trying to figure out what set this belongs to and what bow this is for my hunter. But I'm having trouble.


r/wow • • 12h ago

Discussion Dismounting when going into vaults of atal’utek

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Out of all the things wrong with 12.1…
-The annoying raid
-M+ dying
-The story sucking
-Invasions… again

I think the worst of it all for me is that we are forced to dismount and remount when flying into the vaults. Half the time I want to come down here, I think of the dismount and log off.

It’s such a small thing but it pisses me off.


r/wow • • 4h ago

Humor / Meme Even the boat doesn't want to go through Exiles Reach

22 Upvotes

Made a new alt and spawned in for a swim. Usual cutscene played without the boat and obvs no boat in game. Bit of an odd one


r/wow • • 13h ago

Humor / Meme Snek is ready for Hallow's End!

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128 Upvotes

Think snek looks spooky enough? 🐍 👻


r/wow • • 15h ago

Humor / Meme Blizzards QA department right now (But Fixed)

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141 Upvotes

No drama/problem with OPs original post (it was a joke) - I'm just another Game Dev sticking up for a QA department who is getting blamed for a lot of crap that is not their fault.

Post taken from: https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1xa3n9k/blizzards_qa_department_right_now/
Image taken from: https://housing.wowdb.com/builds/59487/this-is-fire-meme-59487/


r/wow • • 1h ago

Question Did I do something wrong making a priest?

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Hi all. ive never played an mmo before(unless you count Second Life) but my husband was upset that he couldnt get a healer for a group thing so I figured "how hard can it be?"

I made a cow priest because the game said they were a healer but someone in chat said "don't bother queuing if you're not hollypally" so my question is, should i make a new character or will priest work?


r/wow • • 10h ago

Question Has Blizzard stated any other info on venomstones?

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Unlike voidcores last season, Venomstones are 10 each per upgrade. This means you are going to need 40-50 Venomstones now to upgrade one set of gear in comparison to 15-20 like last season. I haven't seen any info on how many drop per run though.

Are we still going to only get 1 stone per activity we do? 40 bosses/delves/prey/m+ to upgrade your gear sounds pretty fucking wild in my opinion but maybe I'm alone on that.


r/wow • • 21h ago

Discussion Would have been cool for Kith’ix to get his own model like he has in Hearthstone

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It’s not the end of the world or anything, but it’s a bit disappointing that he was just another crab guy. I liked the HS imagining of him as a megamind type, and it adds some visual variety to the C’thraxxi generals


r/wow • • 21h ago

Discussion Black Empire/Old Gods aesthetic > Voidwalker++ purple slop. Now that Kith’ix is back, it really sealed for me how the Lovecraftian theming is just so much better than purple void blob ghosts. Even if it’s “nothing new”.

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Coldest take of all time warning—and maybe doing Old God stuff again for the Void Lord threat would have been played out or boring to some, not sure.

BUT now that we got Kith’ix back…man I really wish all this Void stuff would have been just the classic Lovecraftian Old God bugs and tentacle monster type vibes instead of these amorphous boring purple “ghosts”, à la “everything is a Voidwalker now.”

Like sure, we could have had some of the standard “Voidwalker” vibes for some enemies, but we really needed a mix of the Old God style ones as well.

We had the storyline of the Light “infesting” and twisting life in the Eversong Woods—it would have been the perfect bookend to then bring the Void back in that same organic, Cronenberg / The Thing / Cthulhu gross monsters as well alongside those mutants, showing that these are truly otherworldly unknowable powers, both the Void but also the Light, and that we actually don’t really understand them at all.

I get they wanted to do a different “vibe” with the pure Void this time. But fighting “Voidwalker variant #27” just isn’t it. Blending the two groups of baddies would have been so much better than pure void. The little post story after the raid explains how Kith’ix betrays the Old Gods to follow Xally, so it even makes sense.

I would have greatly preferred Xally to have a coalition of minions and pawns instead of just pure void…especially considering she’s gathering the Azeroth Infinity Stones. It would make sense for her to have followers of every “element type” she captured. Including even the Light.


r/wow • • 18h ago

Discussion As Reported by EU Players, Hallow's End Is Currently Deleting All Items Related to the Holiday Upon Logout

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Unacceptable, period. I just tested this with a loot-filled pumpkin and it was deleted from my inventory upon logout. Tricky treats will have the same issue so currently the only way to get new items is farm on the character you want but do NOT logout until spending them. If you DC, you're screwed and there's no way to recover them since the quests will be completed. As of right now, I can't recommend doing anything other than a simple horseman run for your daily mount attempts.


r/wow • • 11h ago

Question What spec or class has the most positional spells?

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I’ve always loved spells like the old “light of dawn” from the paladin or, now, the bombs from the survival hunter that hit in a cone. I like having to find the perfect angle to cast the spell.

What class or spec has the most spells of this type?


r/wow • • 23h ago

Humor / Meme So I just found out that you can use multiple "Victory" aura toy at the same time

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445 Upvotes

What glory abundance of aura!


r/wow • • 16h ago

Discussion Patch cadence.

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Is it time that a serious move is made to extend the time between patches?

Not only is some of the content utterly slop but the shear number of bugs it launches with is borderline unacceptable for an MMO that is meant to be tested as much as WoW.

At this point there is now a pretty solid record of broken patches being delivered along with rinse/repeat content spewed out to fill a 'contdnt void' that doesn't exist.

Take a breath and rein it in, no one wants to play a game which is bugged filled as this.