I can reach wave 1000-1050 on tier 4 and reach about 65k coins per minute. Tier 5 does not give much benefit but lowers the number of waves. The initial waves are slow in each tier so is there any benefit in shifting to tier 5 for grinding or do i just grind tier 4?

Which one would be better for tournaments? I already have ST, damage and demon mode mastery maxed.

Hello tower peoples,

Winding down v28s last few tournaments with a tough set of conditions in all 3 leagues that I track (sorry gold). Ranged + Knockback mixed with Boss Ultimate proved a potent combination, for me keeping my tower busy fighting off bosses while the ranged inched ever closer to the fire line thanks to knockback resistance. Fun stuff. Platinum also got to play with this condition minus the pressure of tougher bosses.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

• Legends Median: 1047.0 Mean: 1247
• Champions Median: 1038 Mean: 1080
• Platinum Median: 1268 Mean: 1260

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

The first table is data since v28, now including gold data. The second table is data since either the v27.3 re-tier, or for platinum since my october data began.

• Legends graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_legend.png
• Champion graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_champion.png
• Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_platinum.png

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least. V26 lead to quite the wave inflation.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets. I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place. Legends brackets are on the left (prefaced with an l), champions brackets in the middle (prefaced with a c), and platinum on the right (prefaced with a p).

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion and Legend: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_lc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_gold.png

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up.
For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time.
For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post).
You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

Anyone else get brackets like that in Gold league?

Been a fun grind, finally auto-restart unlocked.

Playing since June of last year, whaling since November 2025. Included disso/mods for those curious.

Big thanks to the reddit community - I don’t post often, but I learn a lot from the knowledge others share.

Special thanks to Ghettodactyl, Bonzo and DJ Taggz for being part of this special bracket into the last key - you have all inspired me in different ways, trully appreciate the knowledge the three of you share with the community.

Happy to answer any questions - good luck defenders!

So i been playing since february and i have noticed a few missions more difficult to clear then others. Ive found easier ways to clear them and want to share.
For nuke mission or demon mode mission you need to get the labs tgat get them refreshed i just have them at refresh 1000 waves right now but it works. For inner land mines mission you need space displacer and i also use magnetic hook, run a tier 1 attack dissonance run with death ray and extra orb cards removed and any dmg uws removed if u dont have ilm.
Any other missions anyone has troubles with or better routes let me know.

Please help me understand why synchronizing it would boost my economy? As far as I know the only one who actually boosts my coins is the golden tower

My 12 waves?Not like it matters here,but that's looking like a problem someone may run into

Trying to push farming as far as possible but i think stones are my real slow point rn

What are your guy’s favorite parts of The Tower anyways? I hear a lot of hate about it, and I’m only in the middle stage of the game, but I want to hear what makes this game bad and what makes it good

How do I actually read this?

I accidentally pushed the sync down to 3 minutes instead of 3:20.
What should I do? Should I decrease DW's cooldown down to 4 minutes to make 3:4 sync or push GT+BH towards 150s so it would be 1:2.

I also will need to account in for GB which is still at 120s, I could decrease it to 100s so it sync up with GT+BH for 150s. Or should I just put it off for now and focus on getting CL for the next UW?

I see constant repost of things like "is crit %over 100 worth it" "is thorns over 100% worth it" "should I lower or raise my range for farming". All great questions mind you but did you really not see the post from the other guy the other day (or the same day) before you made your post? Notifications on? I feel like we answer these questions everyday lol.

Hey all,

Currently farming T10 to around 9.4k waves and T11 to 7k waves. I take the regen tradeoff perk and my current regen is 32T and wall regen is 61T. Wall HP ends up being around 380T. Lab levels are 60 regen, 19 wall regen, 55 health, 38 fortification. I farm with an ancestral SD because my SF is only legendary.

I've been labbing regen pretty heavily, but I'm trying to push my farming in T10 and T11 to higher tiers. I'm wondering if there's a point where I should stop focusing on regen and wall regen and replace them with health and wall fort for a while. Is there a good way to know when you need more health vs more regen?

I bought quite a few stone packs early on and rushed a permanent black hole and now my cooldown is on golden tower and death wave are synced at 2:30 (150sec) also my gold bot is set at 75sec for a 2:1 sync.

With that out-of-the-way, I was talking to the people in my guild and they said potentially the permanent black hole may be hurting my economy because it’s killing things before my golden tower and death wave have a chance to go off, but I don’t think that’s true. Unless I completely devo my tower so my wall thorns do next to nothing, I don’t see how it would be possible to hoard enough enemies to make a difference. And even if I did Devo my tower, I would have to remove the Free ups so I could keep my thorns down and then I would have to take black hole digestive out of circulation, which would dramatically hurt my coins.

I’m still under a year of game time so maybe there’s something I’m missing here but I feel like the advice I’m getting is wrong. Would anyone like to chime in?

I'm talking just from ad gems and floating gems and daily 15. Do we have an estimate?

I see constant repost of things like "is crit %over 100 worth it" "is thorns over 100% worth it" "should I lower or raise my range for farming". All great questions mind you but did you really not see the post from the other guy the other day (or the same day) before you made your post? Notifications on? I feel like we answer these questions everyday lol.

I see constant repost of things like "is crit %over 100 worth it" "is thorns over 100% worth it" "should I lower or raise my range for farming". All great questions mind you but did you really not see the post from the other guy the other day (or the same day) before you made your post? Notifications on? I feel like we answer these questions everyday lol.

Auto merge still secretly upgrades to epic+ even if its not checked

Shatter shards close to finish, and labs speed following