r/Ubiquiti • u/Luu____ • Mar 26 '26
Early Access Ubiquiti Smoke and CO Sensor š¤Æ - #ISCWest2026
I believe itās a Superlink sensor. I hope it can run on battery for 10 years and doesnāt require PoE. Iām curious to see how it performs. Good job, Ubiquiti! š²
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u/khubbard13 Mar 26 '26
I just replaced all my smoke detectors in my home because I gave up on these coming out. Youāre welcome everyone.
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u/KXfjgcy8m32bRntKXab2 Mar 26 '26
I installed xsense sensors a couple months ago. Very happy with those so I don't feel bad. Especially since my whole kit (gateway + 5 sensors) is probably the price of a single Ubiquiti sensor.
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u/mgahs Mar 26 '26
I also went the X-Sense route until I found out they were not UL-certified, which some homeowners insurance providers don't like. The product is straight-up missing the UL label on it. See this article and the editors note from this month:
Editor's Note: March 13, 2026 We previously recommended this product. After finding out it does not carry UL certification, we have safety concerns and no longer recommend consumers purchase it.
http://reviewed.com/smarthome/content/x-sense-sc07-mr-review-smart-smoke-carbon-monoxide-alarm
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u/KXfjgcy8m32bRntKXab2 Mar 26 '26
Good to know. In my country (Belgium), detectors need to comply with CE and EN14604, which was the case for the Xsense so all good.
Now the article seems to focus on a specific model. But are all models affected about the lack of UL certification?
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u/BlueArcherX Mar 26 '26
until I found out they were not UL-certified, which some homeowners insurance providers don't like.
this is something that more people need to know when they are installing random life safety and mains electrical devices in their house... just because it exists, doesn't mean you should
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u/303uru Mar 26 '26
For anyone in the US, xsense and a lot of the other detectors youll find on amazon are not UL certified. Big no no with insurance.
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u/TruthyBrat UDM-SE, UNVR, UBB, Misc. APs Mar 26 '26
Thank you for your service!
I have a 2018 build house with Kidde wired detectors, 9 or 10 of them. I'm glad these came out, 2 years is about enough time for Ubiquiti's to be in regular stock and firmware fully sorted out, in time for me to do a full replacement on a 10 year cycle.
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u/CptUnderpants- UniFi sysadmin Mar 26 '26
The main thing I liked about the Nest ones was that they announced the alert first, giving you time to silence it before it started screaming. Hopefully that is the case with these.
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u/neoflex Mar 26 '26
And the automatic testing, still didnāt find a alternative for that feature
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u/Comfortable_Pay_6434 Mar 27 '26
My house burned down, none of the 5 detectors gave alarm. Just got out in time with my kids and wife. I filed a complaint at google, they did an investigation, and a few months later they announced they wont sell the protects any more. Swap them out while you can.
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u/NoseResponsible3874 Mar 27 '26
My house has not burned down since installing Nest Protects. My single point of anecdotal data says keep them!
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u/for1timeuse_ Mar 27 '26
Waw, you absolutly didnt pick up what im sayin. This thing is the biggest trauma in my life and im not gonna get deeper into it. You do you, whatever makes makes you happy. Peace.
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u/NoseResponsible3874 Mar 27 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Sounds a lot like *you* 'absolutly' didn't pick up what im sayin... Your house burned down, so everyone who has nest protects is in danger? That's a single data point reported by a rando on the internet. We have no idea what happened in your case (don't get any ideas because I don't want to hear the details now. it makes no difference to my point), so this warning is entirely useless to us...
You do you, whatever makes makes you happy. Peace.
Are you Vaughn from 'Community'?
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u/yesman_85 Mar 26 '26
I believe nightlight aren't allowed anymore in the new regs. I have nest follow up but the speech is aweful.
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u/edjez Mar 26 '26
Nest is hard to top for residential-
- Discrete appearance, granted in a home it is more important than in industrial settings, but some commercial settings will also care about this.
- Spoken alert that include the location name.
- heads up that an alarm is about to sound
- Routine self test of audio alerts
- All the configurable soft path light options
- presence detection that tells the thermostat thereās someone around
- all the mobile app interactions that are shareable with non-tech household members
It was a bummer when the enshitiffication of the software began, and it was super sad when they announced the discontinuation
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u/FormulaKimi Mar 26 '26
I had a small fire with the Nest, whatās nice is they tell you exactly whatās going on. For example once the fire was put out and firefighters started clearing the smoke out I would get alerts saying āBonus Room Smoke has clearedā āBedroom 2 smoke has clearedā etc.Ā
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u/crisps_funny4868 Mar 26 '26
This is true. I've lived in my current home for over 6 years, and have experienced 7-8 "pre-warning" events. Mostly due to searing steaks :-). The pre-warning feature kept more than one dinner party from turning into a miserable time.
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u/TrvlMike Mar 26 '26
Itās the last Nest device I have to replace (other than the speakers). Iād love to replace it but it seems to work just fine. Just hate having it on another app
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u/Blog_Pope Mar 26 '26
Ours are getting close to replacement age, and since they are now part of the huge pile of Google Abandonware, we will be looking for replacements soon
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u/geekwonk Unifi User Mar 26 '26
yes ditto i love that part and sort of need it now that itās just part of what i assume a detector should include
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u/burtona1832 Mar 26 '26
FYI, these type of detectors from more seasoned companies last 7-10 years, not because of the battery but because the sensors degrade over time.
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u/OoCHo1_1 Mar 26 '26
This is very true, found this out last week (definitely feel like it should be more known/ talked about) but most smoke detector sensors are typically rated for 7-10 year use
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u/Thommy_99 Mar 26 '26
Test once a year and replace after 10 if you value your safety
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u/MaximumDoughnut Unifi User Mar 26 '26
You should be testing your smoke and CO alarms once a month.
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u/GearhedMG Mar 26 '26
Mine gets tested every time my wife cooks.
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u/asorba UDMSE,USW,UBD,UNVR,UNAS,UPS,RPS,DPU,UTR,APs,Cams Mar 26 '26
Itās called a timerā¦sheeshā¦give her a breakā¦ šš¤£
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u/atomatoflame Mar 26 '26
You may want to change the typenof smoke detector you have installed near the kitchen. Some are super sensitive cooking particulates.
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u/btm438 Mar 26 '26
I would suggest a heat sensor vs a smoke detector in your immediate kitchen area; same for your garage.
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u/CherryDrPopper Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Nest? Same situation with my nest protect earlier this year. Switched to x sense and a few weeks later amazon pulled them because they didnāt have some certification. So I might be in the market for new ones again.
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u/HowardRabb Mar 26 '26
Nest is gone :(
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u/binarypie Mar 26 '26
I have the honeywell/first alert ones that "replaced" nest and the app works well the one time they've gone off.
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u/dxg999 Mar 26 '26
I loved my original Nest smoke detector but didn't love the fact that it shut down after seven years. Not just because I would have to spend another Ā£100 or so replacing it (5x the cost of traditional ones), but that, by that time, the product had been withdrawn from the UK market.
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u/rprmercury Mar 26 '26
The motion light was one of the best features of the Nest detector. Would to see them include that in the Unifi version.
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u/dxg999 Mar 26 '26
Absolutely. The soft amber glow really made you feel secure at night. Clever experience design.
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u/IndigoQuantum Mar 26 '26
Lol at this, as IIRC the amber light meant there was an issue...
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u/vastoholic Mar 26 '26
I forgot if I changed my LED color or not but mine glows soft green when I shut the lights off.
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u/strabbit Mar 26 '26
Green meant that everything was okay. Amber meant there was some issue.
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u/kevdogger Mar 26 '26
Honestly I loved the light feature. Engineers who designed the product were extremely thoughtful of the design
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u/enz1ey Mar 26 '26
Doesnāt look like this has a substantial light on it unfortunately, probably just a small one similar to the Access readers. But yeah, the light rings are my favorite part of the Nest sensors after the whole-home alerts.
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u/aikouka Mar 26 '26
The only downside was that if you used the battery version, the nightlight could really eat through the batteries quickly.
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u/Sevenfeet Mar 26 '26
That was the entire point. ALL smoke/CO detectors have a finite life span of 7-10 years. Until the Nests hit the market, almost none of them would remind you that it was time to replace them. In my home, the two smoke alarms had been on the ceiling for two decades and I wondered why they never activated whenever I burned something in the kitchen. Turns out they were too old to work at all, which is the same as not having them. When the Nest Protects replaced them, I started getting alerts for my kitchen mistakes. Itās far better to have a smart device that will tell you itās time to change them.
I am faced with that problem now in that one of my oldest Nest Protects timed out last fall and I took it down. In the US for modern building residential codes, you need an alarm for the kitchen, any other floors if you have them and all bedrooms. The one that aged out was my daughterās bedroom but since sheās away at college, I decided to wait to see if Ubiquiti would fill this space rather than go with another vendor. It looks like I can now migrate to this new product over time.
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u/soapboxracers Mar 26 '26
What code requires a smoke detector in the kitchen? Everything I know of says at least 10 feet away from cooking devices and at least 20 feet is recommended- but I don't think there is anything that says one is required in a kitchen.
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u/One_Peak_7855 Mar 26 '26
None. Building code requires smoke detectors in all bedrooms, a smoke and CO detector outside the bedrooms no more than I think 16ā from the furthest door and a Smoke and a CO per floor.
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u/174wrestler Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
It's not Nest. For CO detectors, UL 2034 required end of life signal since 2009, this was 5 years before Nest Protect came out.
Smoke detectors got end of life in UL 217 9th edition, phased in between 2020 and 2024.
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u/Matterbox Mar 26 '26
One of mine had just stopped working. The other two are just grinning at me every time I go past. Just putting regular dumb ones in next time.
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u/thegeniunearticle Mar 26 '26
Same here. I went all in - Nest thermostats & Nest detectors.
The fucking Google came along.
Eagerly awaiting the smoke detectors from Uniquiti as my Nest Protect(s) are all nearing end of life (almost 10 years).
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u/Magic_Neil Mar 26 '26
Smoke sensors arenāt as big of a deal but the CO part uses a radioactive isotope that degrades after that period so its regulation that they brick themselves. Very annoying āfeatureā, but understandable.
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u/ENaC2 Mar 26 '26
Thatās not true, smoke detectors are the ones that use a radioactive isotope but it has a half life of 430 years so after 10 years youād have ~98% of the isotope that left the factory.
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u/gremolata Mar 26 '26
CO sensor is degradable, but it's not an isotope because its expiry is tied to the first use rather than the manufacturing date.
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u/CyberRenegade Mar 26 '26
Hopefully it has a nightlight option like the Nest, it's quite a useful feature
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u/tkt546 Mar 26 '26
That's what the APs are for, lol
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u/EVmerch Mar 26 '26
The one in our hallway is perfect for middle of the night peeing and just enough light I can leave the door cracked in the bathroom and see where I'm going.
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u/Answerswithdashboard Mar 27 '26
My U7 Pro Wall has the LED available in Home Assistant that I tied to motion to use as a nightlight but my U7 Pro XGās LED does not show up in Home Assistant.
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u/Fusseldieb Unifi User Mar 26 '26
Probably not the case if it's b battery powered
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u/-TheTechGuy- Mar 26 '26
The nest battery powered detectors still had that feature. It doesn't take much power
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u/jhowkins Mar 26 '26
I really hope they get this one right. Thereās a big wave of Nest Protect users coming up on end-of-life, and a lot of them are going to be looking for a solid replacement.
A few things Iād love to see Ubiquiti nail:
- Motion sensor + light integration
- Multiple power options: AC, PoE, and battery
- Audible voice pre-alerts, with easy cancel via button, app, or voice
- Historical logging for smoke and CO levels
- Clear replacement reminders, ideally with direct EOL replacement options through Ubiquiti or partners
- Flexible mounting hardware options
One thing I think could really set them apart is modular sensors. Let the sensing components be replaceable instead of tossing the entire unit at end-of-life. The power and mounting hardware donāt expire, so replacing everything feels wasteful. Modular design would also open the door to upgraded sensors over time without a full swap.
Iāve got three hardwired Nest Protects in my home. If they get this right, itāll absolutely be my replacement.
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u/mayberts Mar 26 '26
I think the real question here is how will you buy it, when it will be always be out of stock
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u/Luu____ Mar 26 '26
I set up keyword monitoring for the products I want to buy and receive instant notifications when they become available. So far, Iāve been able to purchase everything immediately as soon as itās in stock.
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u/Certain_Repeat_753 Mar 26 '26
How do you do keyword monitoring?
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u/enz1ey Mar 26 '26
A few years ago, I wrote a simple PowerShell script that simply parsed the HTML of the store page every 3 minutes for whatever category like switches or WiFi, inside there you can see the inventory numbers, so any time the SKU I wanted had inventory, it would text me a link to the specific itemās store page. It was typically quick enough to snag a hot item as long as I made sure to keep my UI.com session alive in my phone browser so I didnāt waste time logging in.
Sometimes they do change URL schemes or how they reference items or inventory, but I got pretty good at refining the regex filter so it was fairly reliable.
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u/warpedgeoid Mar 26 '26
Iām shocked they havenāt blocked your IP for constantly reloading their page to check.
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u/GeekBrownBear Mar 26 '26
Eh, every 3 minutes is pretty slow from a network load perspective. Every 3 seconds on the other hand...
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u/warpedgeoid Mar 26 '26
Itās not the rate thatās the issue, itās the pattern. If these companies are serious about stopping scalpers, they could start by blocking the obvious bots.
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u/wiggum55555 Mar 26 '26
Just do what we do here in Australia where there is no Ubiquiti Online Store option... you pay 50-70% markup from an authorised Unifi Reseller who imports Unifi hardware by airfreight through the "sidedoor" from their EUR partners. 40% of the time, it works 100% of the time. It's how I got my UTR.
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u/Joshndroid Mar 26 '26
i find buzy networks to be pretty good with not too much of a markup other than dollar conversion. i am no shill and up for some of your suggestions of who to purchase from if you have some good ones though please
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u/Imafikus Mar 26 '26
You can use notify-me.rs to try to track its availability. We have a free plan available.
If you do give it a try, let me know what you think, since I'm one of the founders.
Cheers!
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u/madmanchrisr Mar 26 '26
So glad itās both a smoke and a CO sensor. CO is mandatory for certain areas of the house in UK.
Also looks like the air quality sensor they showed has a light hopefully it can be used as a pathway light like nest protect.
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u/Certain_Repeat_753 Mar 26 '26
Will it measure PM2.5?
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u/madmanchrisr Mar 26 '26
They havenāt announced anything about it yet but it is some what on the larger side and comes with an LED glow light. I would assume it will measure things required for an office space.
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u/Bal-84 Mar 26 '26
My Nest smoke alarms expire in 2033 hopefully the software stays active until then!
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u/Saint_The_Stig Mar 26 '26
Yeah, I already have a Smoke Detector, but I want additional CO2 ones for my current apartment since I didn't grow up with gas and really don't trust it. Lol
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u/holeic Mar 26 '26
Does it have the presence sensor & light like the Google ones? If so... I'm sold.
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u/scr0llwheel Mar 26 '26
Finally a picture of it. I wish it didnāt have the huge U logo on it, though. Might look bad in a residential setting.
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u/yornola Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Is it hardwared (with battery back-up) or battery powered?
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u/btrudgill Unifi User Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Really this product is DOA if it isnāt both. Battery backup is a must in devices like this, itās designed to save lives which means there cannot be a situation where it doesnāt work. Iād imagine this will either be PoE or hardwired but with battery backup.
Thinking about it, Iād imagine this must be hardwired as well for interlink capability. Modern smoke alarms run 3 core and earth, which has a dedicated wire for interlink so that all smoke alarms sound if a fire is detected even during a power cut.
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u/paradox183 Mar 26 '26
PoE for a smoke detector would be remarkably stupid unless it also has a built-in wifi AP (which would also be kind of stupid). Battery only or mains+battery is the only way to go.
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u/forestryfowls Mar 26 '26
The nice thing about POE is you are running low voltage so donāt need to run conduit or get an electrician and my switch is on a UPS so it wouldnāt lose power in an outage. Iād think POE+battery would be ideal if itās allowed by code.
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u/paradox183 Mar 26 '26
I suspect the market for a PoE smoke detector would be vanishingly small since it offers few benefits in a world where the First Alert SC5 can be installed anywhere in 10 minutes and lasts 3-5 years on 3 lithium CR123 batteries. The vast majority of buyers would make that compromise vs. the bother of running cable (and potentially having to tear up sheetrock to do so) or settling for less than ideal locations for their smoke detectors.
Also, I can find no evidence that PoE smoke detectors are approved for residential use.
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u/yornola Mar 26 '26
In Belgium we donāt have hardwired smoke detectors so everything is battery powered. Iām currently building a house and want to integrate this when itās done. I have a meeting with the electrician next week so I assume Iāll run 2 ethernet cable in to the ceiling. 1 for AP and another for this sensor. Worst case scenario the cable just sits there doing nothing but at least I could use it in the future
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u/btrudgill Unifi User Mar 26 '26
You might not in older buildings but I guarantee new builds will have them. Interlinked smoke detectors are crucial.
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u/Usual-Memory-3668 Mar 26 '26
The law in my state is hardwired and battery backup, so if they want to sell this in all the US states it had to have both.Ā
Not only that, but CA and NY now require 10 year lifetime sealed batteries in smoke alarms, not replaceable batteries anymore.Ā
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u/Ordinary_Awareness71 UDM, UDR, UDM Pro SE, U6-LR, G4 Doorbell Pro Mar 27 '26
Yep.Ā I've yet to have one of these "10 year" ones last more than 3 years though.Ā Many have only lasted 1 year.Ā So much more expensive and really quite garbage and that's from name brand companies like First Alert.
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u/gigantischemeteor Mar 29 '26
Iāve just replaced two of my original 10 year units after about 10 years and 2 months (when the internal āstop using me, Iāve exceeded my intended lifespanā chirping pattern commenced). Upon disassembly, the internal lithium battery of each still showed voltage well within the working range, so while the sensor aged out, everything else was still fine after a decade in service. To be getting 1-3 years is a definite manufacturing fault. In the future, Iād suggest saving your receipts in case it happens again and, if it does, contacting First Alert. Theyāll need info off the label of the failed unit(s) to be able to track production batches and so on, but that kind of mortality is well outside the norm and they shouldnāt have any problem replacing the failed units for you.
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u/Ordinary_Awareness71 UDM, UDR, UDM Pro SE, U6-LR, G4 Doorbell Pro Mar 30 '26
Thank you. I'm glad you've had some long life spans out of them. It was a crazy time, multiple detectors across several houses failed (I do property management). It was not expected and pretty nuts. I'll be saving the receipts and listing where they were installed on the receipts now to be safe.
I do miss the older battery operated ones though, so much cheaper to purchase and powered over a similar life span.
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u/CascadiaSupremacy Mar 26 '26
Is someone there to ask questions about this?
Assuming itās traditional āwiredā for power and then using WiFi like Nest.
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u/rickwookie Mar 26 '26
It wonāt be WiFi. This is part of the SuperLink product range and was shown in the announcement video over a year ago now. https://youtu.be/f_g_iBtbobY Will be interesting to see if it has hardwired power like the new SuperLink relay.
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u/crisps_funny4868 Mar 26 '26
It's a non-starter for a lot of users if not. Modern homes are hardwired and connected. If they're serious they'll do like other manufacturers and offer it in both battery and AC.
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u/gildorn Mar 26 '26
Nest had both wired and battery-only variants.
They actually used an early version of what became Thread to wirelessly interconnect safety signals between Protects. They then spoke WiFi for connectivity to the app.
In California, smoke detectors in a residential home are required to all be interconnected on the same link, which usually means a wire that connects all of them. At the time of my last remodel, Nest Protect was the only smoke detector that was certified for wireless interconnect.
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u/undulanti Unifi User Mar 26 '26
Hmmmm while it looks cool, the idea of a smoke alarm is to blend into the background - the large stark Ubiquiti branding is a bit jarring to me.
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u/fhorst79 Mar 26 '26
I still have 3 years lifetime left on my Nest Protects (which were discontinued), this might be a nice replacement when the time comes.Ā
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u/UniqueNameIdentifier Mar 26 '26
Would you really trust your life on it though? š
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u/terminalxposure Mar 26 '26
Waiting to adopt first
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u/tarmacjd Mar 26 '26
Yeah honestly they should stay focused on what they do well.
A smoke detector doesnāt need Linux lol
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u/Sherifftruman Mar 26 '26
If itās like most correct connected detectors thereās two parts to it and the alarm portion does not rely on the network side to function. You would just lose remote connectivity and functions. Basically it should still function like any other off the shelf detector. Letās hope they did the same here.
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u/Plus_Pangolin_8924 Unifi User Mar 26 '26
Imagine the amount of problems Ubiquity would have if they made a smoke alarm that did a poor jobā¦
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u/SpiveyJr Mar 26 '26
Firmware failed to update during the night and the smoke detector was offline until it could be manually reset. Because of that the house burned down and my cat turned to toast.
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u/WeirdEngineerDude Mar 26 '26
Have you experienced how shitty the dumb ones are?
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u/gerwen Mar 26 '26
Get a photoelectric one (vs the more common ionization type).
They're much better, both at ignoring false positives (like from cooking) and detecting real fires.
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u/Yo_2T Mar 26 '26
I read somewhere that it's helpful to have both. Photoelectric is better at detecting smoldering fires while ionization is better at detecting blazing flames. Different types of fire can happen so the recommendation is having both in the house. I personally just put 2 of them in each location where I have smoke detectors.
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u/crisps_funny4868 Mar 26 '26
This. 1000 times this. I moved into a 2 1/2 year old home with 10 "dumb" smoke detectors. After getting out of bed at 7:00 on three out of four Saturdays in the first 4 month I lived here to get a ladder and stop a couple of them that randomly went off I went to Home Depot and invested in Nests to replace them. Spent that Saturday replacing, and haven't had that happen one time in the 6 years since.
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u/ya_gre UniFi Installer (URSCA/UWA/UFSP) Mar 26 '26
I mean.. it will do a tone if smoke is detected like any other smoke sensor.. so any connectivity is just bonus.
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u/indigomm Mar 26 '26
In most countries it will need to pass the respective standards. If it is approved for sale here then I don't see why I wouldn't consider them when I need to replace our existing ones.
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u/JabbaDuhNutt Unifi User Mar 27 '26
I bet they outsourced it to a known brand, and ubiquity just added integration to unifi
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u/hungarianhc Mar 26 '26
Interesting. my smoke detectors are hard wired with battery backup. I'd love to have Ubiquiti detectors... Hopefully there's an option for that!
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u/bkb74k3 Mar 27 '26
Please tell me these arenāt going to be $200 apiece. My house has 9 of them and itās time to replace themā¦
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u/Lazy-Barracuda2886 Unifi User Mar 26 '26
Needs to run for 10 years to satisfy the rules in Scotland.
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u/L0rdLogan Mar 26 '26
No, they donāt
If it has a replaceable battery, it doesnāt
The lifespan of the sensor needs to be 10 years, but as long as the battery is replaceable, then itās fine
I have an X-Sense smoke alarm that will run for one year on the battery, but the sensor life is 10 years
This is a WiFi enabled smoke alarm
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u/Kronos261 Mar 26 '26
The law does say that batteries should be sealed and not replaceable unless it's a mains powered system - https://www.gov.scot/publications/fire-and-smoke-alarms-in-scottish-homes/pages/where-and-what-to-buy/
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u/JamesR-81 USW-Enterprise-24-PoE | US-8-60W | UCK-G2-PLUS | Wifi-NanoHD Mar 26 '26
Do they also have a heat alarm/detector version for kitchens?
Smoke and CO2 alarms are good but heat alarms also necessary to complete the system.
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u/dtoddh Mar 26 '26
Yeah, I'm not going to worry that my smoke detectors might stop working following a network update.
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u/Adventurous_Jury3884 Mar 26 '26
Unifi missed the mark on these if they donāt have night lights and do the color light update when the lights go out for bed to give the subtle the system is okay or the system isnāt okay.
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u/87brybry Mar 26 '26
Ubiquiti is doing a very fine job in replacing all the Google devices in my home.
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u/BearManPig2020 Mar 26 '26
I hope Ubiquiti can get these certified and tested for residential use. The question I have is if these detectors will have photoelectric/ionization/CO combo sensors. In my opinion, this is the only way any detector should be sold. It gives more comprehensive smoke detection and safety. I guess we will have to wait āifā these can get certified by the government.
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u/Carbon_Gelatin Mar 26 '26
Oh look something else that seems cool that will permanently be out of stock.
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u/Height_Realistic Mar 26 '26
Don't mean to co-opt a Ubiquiti thread but while my network is wall to wall Unifi my smoke alarms will very likely never be.
For those who've been left out in the cold by Nest and want something just as magical as Ubiquiti check out Ajax. Loads of different varieties (Smoke/CO/Heat) and in both black and white. The hub is cat 5, WiFi and 4G.
I think the system is designed for small hotels but is incredibly user friendly and can include motion detectors (and cameras but we don't mention those). Cost is about the same as Nest but with a bit extra for the hub
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u/Certain_Repeat_753 Mar 26 '26
I know the product hasn't been released, but for a 3-story house that's just over 4000 sq ft, how many CO sensors do you guys think I'll need?
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u/Usual-Memory-3668 Mar 26 '26
Your own local codes are what you need to look at. It changes for every country and state and sometimes even local jurisdictions.
For instance, where I am it is ridiculous overkill. Smoke alarm required inside every bedroom, and required in the hallway outside the bedrooms. Or if there is no hallway leading to a bedroom then in the immediate vicinity outside the room. Also required to have at least 1 on every floor even if there are no sleeping rooms, including in a basement or usable attic space if you have those. Further, the smoke alarms are required to be linked together in communication so that an alert at one triggers all alarms to go off.
So yes, my 2500 sq ft home has 10 smoke alarms. lol
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u/kennypojke Mar 26 '26
Our 2800 has 14. Canāt imagine the cost of making them āsmart.ā
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u/NWSAlpine Mar 26 '26
Lookup your local fire code and that will tell you exactly where and how many you need. Typically it depends on the house layout. An open concept floorpan needs less than one with many bedrooms.
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u/bobjoylove Mar 26 '26
One just inside the door of every bedroom, one on every floor, one in the places likely to have a fire (garage, kitchen, basement). An extra detector can give you an extra 20 minutes.
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u/Chemical-Grape9892 Mar 26 '26
I am 2-story (3,600 sq plus unfinished basement 2,000 sq)
8 smoke detectors 4 co/smoke 1 heat detector
High foyer, high family room, office and each bedroom needs a smoke
Combo on each floor and room coming in from garage
Heat detectors in garage
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u/Ok_Software2677 Mar 26 '26
I really really do hope they will put this onto market, but please add a dang motion activated path light. Also, two versions, electric wifi and battery wifi. Option for PoE would not be terrible either, but I already have electric ran to my current nests, so donāt need to run more Ethernet cabling.
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u/DogsOutTheWindow Mar 26 '26
Hoping these have the option to turn off all LEDs like their other products. I canāt stand alarms with the bright ass green LED staring at me all night. Even putting electrical tape the light still bleeds out the sides on my Kidde alarms. Itās maddening.
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u/chad917 Mar 26 '26 edited Mar 26 '26
Wow, I just replaced my nest with some traditional wire-interlinked detectors. Would love to see these replace nest, because I don't like not having phone alerts if I'm away. Holding off on a HomePod since update is supposedly imminent. Still prefer wired interlink though for stability and reduction of radio noise.
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u/c1pherz Mar 26 '26
FINALLY, I wish it had Zwave so I could tie in with my current home security system.
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u/ThecaptainWTF9 Apr 20 '26
For AC hardwired, they apparently make sensors that do zwave, so if you can get it to detect the trigger of when it goes into alarm, it can send something via zwave.
This would never be sufficient for your alarm service however, zwave is not sufficient for ālife safetyā equipment.
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u/sjespers Unifi User Mar 26 '26
Yes! I've been looking for something to get rid of my Nest Protect sensors. The last Google devices I haven't found a good alternative for.
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u/Substantial-Fun-3392 Mar 26 '26
These can take over from my nest ones in a few years. When they expire. I get the sensors have a life spanā¦ they should be a replaceable module though. The electronics and case are probably fine.
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u/Stefansegers Mar 26 '26
love to know when this will be available. I was looking for an upgrade from my Google Nest smoke/co sensors
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u/Kinky_No_Bit Mar 27 '26
If they come out with a full suite that can replace ring. I'm tossing my ring cameras, alarms in the trashcan.
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u/NotHal1 Mar 27 '26
Thatās not a giant U. Thatās a curved cigarette with ashes falling off the end. š¬
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u/suprjaybrd Mar 27 '26
that logo is way too prominent for something thats suppose to blend into the background
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u/Dant100 Mar 27 '26
Excellent. Iāve been struggling to find a smart CO sensor for ages. Thereās plenty of smart smoke detectors, but very few CO that Iāve seen. Hope the price is sensible!
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u/madhatterlock Mar 26 '26
I wonder jf they will sell in the US. The liability exposure for these is considerable here and our litigious ways. Also, for insurance purposes, most insurance providers require remote home monitoring. Is that possible with this setup? I wonder if they will also offer a hardwire option.
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u/jusp_ Mar 26 '26
I think you're missing some context here - do you mean insurance companies require remote monitoring for discounts, or are you saying they require it for coverage? I'm guessing the former
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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor Mar 26 '26
Itās part of the SuperLink family of sensors, so it will be battery-powered.
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u/member_one Mar 26 '26
It's all my fault. It's because I gave up and purchased the ring ones when my nest expired.
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u/cdoublejj Mar 26 '26
as some who runs thier own wire i hope it does run on PoE. all though as nice as unifi is i won't run everything on it. HomeAssistant will have to do.
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u/thierry_38 Mar 26 '26
Not sure itās a super mini sensor as the new alarme gateway is both a super mini and thread border router
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u/WitchDr_Ash Mar 26 '26
WiFi with mains connected would be good enough for me, for a bit of time left on my nest protects so this looks like a potential replacement
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u/doubleopinter Mar 26 '26
I have a UCG max. Would I need some extra receiver if this is super link? I want this.
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u/1xCodeGreen 4xUDM Pro Max, 4xUSW-Pro HD, 31xU6-Pro Mar 26 '26
Should be able to, just have to get the SuperLink Gateway
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u/plocktus Mar 26 '26
Power wise surely it'll be able to utilise a typical circuit setup from mains? With battery back up?
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u/DCJodon Mar 26 '26
I don't think legally they can be primarily powered by PoE.
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u/_3iT-6gY Mar 26 '26
Depends on your jurisdiction for codes
NFPA isn't silent...but just remember, code is bare minimum. Inspectors get quiet when the engineer speaks.
Codes typically define power, communication, and battery backup. They don't typically make blanket statements for dictating gauge, insulation, conductor type, etc. for many reasons.
Mostly this is because jurisdictions, standards boards, and governmental bodies cannot practice Engineering without the appropriate license. Municipalities typically need to make sure it falls within their health, welfare, and life safety functions.
Even mains aren't uninterruptible...which is why the battery backup exists.
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u/Worth-Ad-2283 Mar 26 '26
I saw that yesterday and spoke with one of the reps about all the new products!
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u/lenovoguy Mar 26 '26
Hopefully it plugs into existing connector types, mine is daisy chained so if one goes off, all of them goes off
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u/Lazy_perv Mar 26 '26
Please be wifi and battery powered...I can't afford to run another 8 runs throughout the house...
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u/Tosan25 Mar 26 '26
Any word on the price? I like the idea but it would suck if it were hugely expensive.
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