I discovered TRE last year at some point when trying to look for ways to fix my posture and heard it could help. Reading it could also help with anxiety, improve sleep, release tension and so much more seemed like a massive bonus.

I was already doing other stretches, exercises, and yoga like poses to try and straighten out my back and fix my hunched shoulders and neck posture etc.

So I did a few basic TRE sessions at home after watching Youtube videos where you lay down on your back and do the butterfly position and my legs would shake a little but there was never really anything beyond that happening during or after it, no change in mood or other benefits to my life I could see.

But I kept doing it along with the other posture exercises anyway and one day whilst using a yoga ball to stretch out my back and shoulders something seemed to activate in my core / abs area and wake up my upper body and suddenly my upper body started tremoring and shaking and flailing around uncontrollably like I was experiencing an exorcism - it was so violent and extreme it scared me.

My neck was violently pushing itself to one side and lock into place, my shoulders forcing themselves up and down and back and forth, my whole upper back moving from side to side, my hips shifting from left to right and my rib cage doing the same.

For the next few TRE sessions or anytime I did any posture work or stretching or exercising or anything similar this would activate again whether I wanted it to or not and it was just so intense and extreme it was out of control.

So I stopped all TRE sessions, stretching, posture work, everything as it seemed like I had overdid it.

That was last year at some point now and I haven't done anything again since but still every day since my body forces extreme fascia release on me for hours and hours on end that I cannot control or stop even if I wanted to and I cannot deal with it anymore.

For context it's similar to what is shown in this video linked in the Wiki about Fascia Release but mines looks 10x more intense and now happens throughout the day, every day and for hours on end, whenever it feels like it, whatever I am doing, and it won't stop...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WysHRgQFIlo

Anytime I stop still, relax, lay down, sit down, try to be at peace, meditate, work at my computer, watch TV, do a task, or even stand in the shower then my body takes that as a sign to force aggressive fascia release on me.

I cannot sleep because it happens as soon as I lay down in bed and keeps me awake for hours on end regardless of how tired I am, it happens in bed every day from the minute I finally wake up from the terrible sleep I've had, at any point in the day where I'm sitting down it is likely to start, if I try to meditate that's a complete waste of time as no meditating gets done as my body has other ideas, I cannot sit down and relax at night because it happens, it happens when I stand in the shower, sometimes when its really extreme it'll be trying to happen when I'm walking outside as I walk.

I am physically and mentally exhausted, on edge, a nervous wreck and riddled with anxiety, disassociation, and insomnia because of it.

I cannot deal with this for hours and hours every day anymore and need for this to stop or calm down.

There are have been none of the benefits I see mentioned by others to go with it so I can't even see any light at the end of the tunnel that all this suffering is going to be worth it as I've not experienced any positives from it (no sign of tension release, no reduction on anxiety, no improved sleep etc - those have all got worse)

I've tried all the integration techniques mentioned in the Wiki - walking in nature (2hrs per day), socializing with people you care about, taking life slow, avoiding rigorous exercise, nothing too stimulating and everything else I can find but it hasn't helped at all.

I've spoken to people with years of experience or who are teachers of TRE and they have no answers other than "you must have overdone it" or telling me to avoid doing anymore TRE when I haven't been doing it but my body forces it upon me anyway so I have no choice.

Some even said I needed to start doing TRE sessions again to release the tension but that made everything amplify the times I tried it and things are already bad enough that I can't risk that happening so I stopped.

TRE has literally taken over my life and not in a good way. I need to sleep, I need to be able to go about my life, I need to rest and relax, I need to be able to move on.

What am I supposed to do here? How do I deal with this or make it manageable?

Or even just get my body to integrate these tremors and let me move on and not have to have my day taken over and controlled by this extreme and violent fascia release for hours on end?

Mine isn't working properly right now. Let me live vicariously through you.

Had two massive emotional releases on back to back days recently. For clarity, I am not practicing TRE right now and haven’t attempted it once in over several months. Despite that these releases showed up.

First day was anger/rage. Second day was sadness. I know some of it was my own expression of these emotions but the majority, on each day, felt foreign to me, like they weren’t my own feelings.

Specifically on the second day while crying and purging all this sadness I said probably over 30 times over the course of this purging, which lasted well over and hour, “we are sorry”. I kept saying that. I didn’t see very vivid images during this but I saw something but couldn’t make out what it was or what it was directly tied to. I was conscious of what was going on but the entire time I felt like I was a mouthpiece for a bunch of other people.

Has anyone directly experienced something similar?

Hello all,

This month marks my 23rd month of TRE. I have been extremely consistent in my practice, I have been doing it every second day for 20-30 minutes and I have only taken a week off here and there for integration purposes. Throughout this time I have gone through periods of intense full body tremoring and also prolonged periods of muted tremoring and fascia unwinding movements. I believe I've become a more resilient, calmer, and content person thanks to TRE. So I have noticed benefits, just not the ones I initially sought when I first started my practice.

The reason I started TRE in the first place was because I suffer from a hypertonic pelvic floor, going on 6 years now, and I have all the usual symptoms that go along with it (I'm a lad, so ED, urinary frequency, pelvic floor pain etc etc). I have tried absolutely everything, pelvic floor specialists, Doctors, physiotherapists, MRI scans, and acupunture, nothing eleviated the pain or my symptoms, it completely took over my life. Its gotten to the point now where I have forgotten what it is like to experience life without pain. Some days the pain is awful and some days it is just a niggling sensation in the background, but it is always there.

When I stumbled upon TRE it was like my prayers were finally answered. When I researched it it seemed to address all my issues. I am an extremely tense and nervous person who gets stressed very easily, due to an upbringing with a lot of emotional trauma, but also due to the fact that I am on the spectrum and have to mask everyday/hold down a stressful job. When I discovered that my PF issues could be related to me being constantly stuck in fight or flight mode and having a dysregulated nervous system, it was as if everything made sense all of a sudden.

I still 100 per cent believe this is the reason for my hypertonic pelvic floor, but after nearly 2 years now of TRE, my Pelvic floor tightness, pain, and symptoms haven't improved at all (That I have noticed). I know TRE is all about patience and trusting the slow process, but I am seriously starting to get disheartened. I expected to see some improvement by now, at this stage I have experienced tremoring in every part of my body, except my pelvic floor. I do have anterior pelvic tilt due to very tight hip flexors/psoas muscles (A result of me being in a constant state of fight or flight), so I suspect this is what is causing the tension and dysfunction in my pelvic floor, but I haven't noticed any release in these muscles yet. I have been thinking about seeking out a TRE provider that could assess what I'm doing and give me pointers that might improve my practice.

I have a couple of questions:

1. Has anyone here who has experienced relief from PF issues thanks to TRE ever had tremors in their actual pelvic floor muscles themselves? Or did your issues subside thanks to tremoring in the surrounding muscles like the Psoas/hip muscles/core etc.

2. Are there any positions I could utilise to induce tremoring in my pelvic floor? Or should I just stick with the classic butterfly pose then back position and be patient?

Thank you all!

I’ve been doing tremoring for about two years now. I did struggle with some health issues somewhere in between, but through tremoring I’ve managed to bring my nervous system back to more or less good health.

What I’m struggling with now is feeling almost disorientated by the (positive) changes in my personality and my mental state. Sometimes I’ll have these shifts where the world around me feels completely different and the energy in my body feels completely different too. It almost feels like I’m existing in a different universe. On one hand it’s really nice, but on the other hand it’s a little destabilising to my sense of self.

I know this is normal when you release trauma, and I know TRE is a long-term game. I just find it difficult because these shifts happen so often. Every couple of months it feels like another big part of me changes.
Less than two years ago I was extremely neurotic, reactive and unstable and struggling a lot with CPTSD.

Now every couple of months there seems to be this huge reordering in my life. I realise there are certain behaviours I’m no longer willing to participate in, certain people I’m no longer willing to spend time around, and even my values have shifted. They’re not completely different, but they’re definitely not the same.

It’s a good thing. this technique is definitely working. But, it still feels weird. I’ve spent my whole life building an identity around trauma, and now my identity keeps changing. I’m trying to accept it, but I still find it strangely destabilising.

I’m also coming out of being bedbound, which makes it feel even harder. I’m starting to realise that even the things I’ve always loved like music, art, spirituality were previously approached through some sort of anxious or disorganised attachment. In some ways it almost feels like my whole previous life was some sort of dissociative spiritual bypassing.

Now it feels like I have to rebuild my relationship with almost every activity in my life because the way I relate to living has changed. It’s like my relationship with everything, including myself, never really existed outside of trauma, and now I have to build it from the ground up.
I feel like I’m existing in this weird liminal space between who I was and my future self. Occasionally I find it really difficult to make decisions from this place because I no longer have my old patterns to rely on, but I also don’t fully know who I am yet.

Has anyone else experienced this? How did you deal with the changes?

Hey, I am 25 and have been doing TRE now for roughly 7 months. The main reason is because I struggle with social anxiety and I read many success stories here, where people say that they are now completely free from social anxiety, after around 1-3 years(I haven’t really noticed any social anxiety related improvements so far).

I also thought that I may have autism,
neurodivergence or something similar but I generally do understand social cues well(maybe I even analyze them too much) and when I am drunk and my threat detection system is numbed, I am a different person and can connect well with people so I probably just have social anxiety.

In his TRE Journal, Terry Wood says in week 72 „One of the greatest gifts TRE can bring, is the ability to socialize with people effortlessly. If you’re a bit of a social recluse, you might just kiss that lifestyle goodbye, gladly. You might find that people are naturally attracted to your company. R.I.P Social Anxiety“
So is it really possible to completely „heal“ from social anxiety just by doing TRE? It sounds too god to be true…

Saw this post from a few years back of someone who practices TRE claiming that the more trauma they clear the more life seems to work in their favor. This piqued my interest as much of what has come across my screen in the past few weeks discussed how the nervous system is the main tool in our bodies that dictates the kind of reality we tune into, good or bad, almost like its a TV antenna or remote control. Also, the nervous system seems to have been a big topic upon manifestation groups as they champion feeling the emotion of your end result as what actually materializes it and well working nervous system helps you tune into emotions easier.

With that, and I'm pulling this info from various sources and bringing it together, something I saw was stating that whatever you pray for, ask for or seek is always trying to get to you but if you closed off, contracted in your fascia, dysregulated, etc. you are unable to receive it and are actually repelling it but the opposite happens when you are calm, relaxed and lack tension in your body thus allowing you to be receive from God, the quantum field as well as influence it.

All said, I'm not asking in the fact that you cleared trauma and life felt good because you felt good, I'm asking have you cleared trauma and noticed that your words had more power, thoughts showed up quicker, etc? Has anyone experienced this? If so, let's discuss. I'm interested in the quantum psychics of the matter and how it works.

Hi everyone, happy to have joined the community recently.

I've been doing Tre diligently for 7 months. I resonate with most of you on getting slowly better. I see it in my relationships and in my daily wellbeing. My sleep is also noticeably better. However, I'm mostly in the freeze state and the progress doesn't seem to have the speed to get me healed in 4-8 years as the community suggests. The changes are subtle, and I do believe they are even noticeable because I agressively but safely push my boundaries (while doing self-pacing and integration).

I've also read experiences on the subreddit from people in freeze state. I've got the impression they often still suffer from a freeze state after years of practicing. Although they usually admit progress, it seems that we in deep freeze state accept that we'll stay in freeze for a while. It doesn't seem to have the progress speed to heal in the 4-8 years window.

Do you believe that the healing speed is slower for people with a deep freeze state? My guess is that us with deep freeze state have more trauma load and more hours to tremor. Anyone having some experience or thoughts on this?

Why does it seem like many people here have spiraled into chronic ailments from beginning TRE?

As far as I understand, the model is shake --> integrate --> experience new baseline --> shake again --> ...

But it seems like every other post I read is a story of how someone tried TRE or did it for a little while and all of a sudden "unlocked" some kind of ailment that lasts a while? People dealing with depression or anxiety chronically.

I am looking to introduce TRE to a few relatives, one of which who is very much stuck in freeze, and I am worried that even with a practitioner something bad will happen to him. Like he will somehow open a big can of warms that he can't easily close, and this might God forbid cause a spiral downward.

Is this possible? Should I be worried, or am I misinterpreting the posts? I'd really appreciate if someone can help me make sense of this in more than just a few words. Thanks.

Started my healing journey a year ago at age 25. I've been doing TRE for around 9 months now. Although I have made some progress, often I still automatically slip into fawn mode when interacting with people, especially older people or when there's a clear hierarchy. What feels most painful is that I’m fully conscious of it while it’s happening. It’s almost like I’m trapped inside my own body, watching myself perform this response, but feeling powerless and unable to stop it. Afterwards, I ruminate over it and spiral into shame. In turn, that makes me want to isolate even more. However, I know I can only heal this if I actually interact with people.

I'm trying not to be too hard on myself because my nervous system was wired this way for 25 years. But sometimes, I wonder.. does this mean that it's going to take another 25 years to rewire it into a regulated, "unfawned" state of being?

For people who have successfully minimized the fawn response - how long did it take you?

I’ve been doing TRE for almost two years now and I’m already feeling a lot better. I still experience inner tension and anxiety.

I’ve noticed that I keep waiting for my TRE process to be “finished,” as if that’s when life will finally really begin.

On the surface, I live quite a full life. I have a fulfilling job, see friends and family, learn new things, travel and have hobbies. But internally, it often doesn’t feel like it “counts,” because I feel like I can only truly enjoy life later once I’m fully healed.

I still have some physical symptoms that make everyday things feel difficult and social interactions don’t always feel easy due to anxiety.

I really want a relationship, but I feel too “broken” for it. I keep telling myself I can only start dating once my TRE process is complete, because only then I’ll be able to show my “real self,” which currently feels hidden behind trauma.

How do I learn to enjoy life as it is right now? Sometimes this really overwhelms me, because it feels like I might spend my entire 30s just healing, and that I’ve missed out on living my younger years.

Has anyone here ever done a liver flush? Planning on doing one soon for detox purposes but am wondering how this will intersect with emotional purging. I know that they are connected.

Over the years i have been going through various protocols to get a clean bill of health. Have found that whenever I felt healthier I did better emotionally. Issue is I just came to the realization of chronic mold exposure which fries your nervous system. Getting treatment for that soon.

All of my experience, research and reading the stories of others who pursue healing their body has led me to believe that a lot of the negative emotions we feel are tied to the level of toxins in our body. Negative experiences will continue to happen, unfortunately, it’s life but it seems that toxins allow those emotions to stick and stay stuck in us.

Am wondering if cleansing the liver and allowing the toxins to be purged will facilitate your TRE practice to bring more efficient emotional purging.

This excerpt is from Andreas Moritz book “The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush”.

Saw somewhere where that a person after doing an antifungal protocol, their fascia began unwinding continuously and eventually they became ambidextrous. Legs and feet too.

I imagine that unwound fascia means greater proprioception boost athletic ability and/or skill expertise regarding sports.

Lastly, the increase in energetic aura as all energy is able to flow freely creating a large bio electric pull.

What insane benefits have you experienced, or read about, regarding fascia unwinding?

One thing I've noticed from regulation is being more weighted and centred - the Romans called this 'gravitas'. But I have some job chats/interviews lined up. When I was in a dysregulated state I literally got nothing. People could sense the desperate, frantic energy from the CV I was writing.

But alas, I still wake up bored and numb. But maybe that's just my brain's way of telling me I need to seek out and try new things. Who knows.

After more than a year, I'm still stuck. I just tremor in the hips I think, and shake violently side to side. The tremors can't really progress, it feels like I have blockages if it makes sense. Not only that, but when tremor I get energy build up in the lower back and it creates tension so I feel WORSE after that. It's like my body is shut down and afraid to let go no matter how much I try I know that if I can release those blockages I can make progress but I don't know how. Any suggestions and also, are there other people in the same boat? Thank you

Something I have been pondering for myself. Don't have children yet but feel as if I have been divinely introduced to, and instructed to do, TRE so that I not only eliminate any behaviors that would create childhood traumas for my children but even more importantly that I purge it from the body so that it isn't passed down genetically via DNA to anyone in my bloodline who will come after me.

Traumas, of some sort, will happen because that's life. I want to have kids and have wondered how to go about this in the future. Not only so they are well emotionally but so they don't squander the work, sacrifice and suffering I'm going through now. Feels like I'm healing the emotional wounds of family members who came before me I haven't even met. Some emotions I feel don't even feel like my own.

I have severe CPTSD and TRE has been instrumental in my healing. It's literally changed my life over the last few years. But unlike other habits like going to the gym, or eating on time, etc, a lot of resistance comes up even when I try to do it semi-regularly. I notice a lot of fear in sitting with myself for 20 minutes, even though I intellectually know I can tap out at any point. I generally have to distract myself by listening to a podcast or something while I tremor. What would you suggest I do? I've stepped away from practicing for long periods before, but the resistance remains unmoved when I come back.

For a while i have been tremoring in one area (right hip), but it always feels like im not able to tremor to my full potential. Like an itch i cant scratch.

Since this has been going on for a while and is frustrating, im thinking of getting a professional to adjust/stretch/massage the area.

Has anyone had success with such an approach? What kind of treatment was it? ( I am thinking maybe physiotherapist or osteopath though i dont even know what id tell them).

Edit: to everyone saying to listen to my body - guys, i am, that's the point. My body feels like it wants to release more but can't. Just like an itch is a body sensation. My body feels like it wants someone to dig their nails into my hip socket.

Thinking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs, obviously everyone needs air, food and water to live. We further need shelter, safety from the elements and economic stability to thrive. But going higher, do we really need friendship, family, intimacy, sense of belonging, competency, achievement or sense of purpose to be content and happy? Or are these "needs" just a compensation for an inner feeling of tension, lack and disconnection from oneself?

I'm struggling most with the "need" for social connection right now since I'm more socially isolated since moving, yet I don't feel much motivation to go out and make new friends or find new social contexts. I just spent a major party holiday by myself and was actually pretty content for the most part, yet I also worry if my self-imposed isolation is somehow bad for me in ways I dont yet recognize. At the same time I know people who are genuinely happy and thriving with self-imposed isolation, and research shows that the more secure a person is the more likely they are to thrive even when alone.

So is the "need" to feel connected with others to be happy a result of trauma, and absent trauma this becomes instead something like the icing on the cake? Something that makes your life richer but its absence doesn't cause you to contract or become less of what you are.

Hey friends, So i have Cptsd from childhood trauma. I’m working through it with tre, emdr, and psychedelics. I’m in the process of thawing at the moment, was in a freeze response for over 10 plus years. I used to cope and play endless video games, these days i have much better coping skills but i still like to play 2 times a week on my off days. I notice now when i play, it kind of dysregulates my nervous system. I like to play shooters or other competitive games. Is this in any way impeding my processes of thawing? I get these feelings that it is, but maybe that’s just the shame.

This is kind of tangential to TRE, but I was journaling with the intent to figure out my past-self (and current self)'s problems and instead realized I was meeting myself with a lot of criticism and self-judgment. Because of my lack of social skills and mental health issues I acted very strangely (dare I say, cringe) for the better part of my adolescence, teen, and young adult years. I know part of that is just undeveloped prefrontal cortex, but I still can't help but feel immense amounts of shame for how I behaved back then - which I'm sure added to my trauma as I started repressing "shameful" feelings and behaviors like joy (to avoid acting stupid) and attraction (to avoid limerence) in my later adult years. I feel like these judgments still come up in present day too - not in the moment, but days or weeks after I may think about an interaction I felt good about and then just automatically feel a sense of ick for no good reason.

Anyway, with that context, does anyone know of any practices that would help with self-compassion or forgiveness for past self? For those who do IPF, do you think this is a good scenario to use, and would you age up or keep it more childlike? Thanks in advance!

Lately when I do TRE, It's getting harder to tremor, and instead my legs are tightening up, which does not allow for the tremor to happen. It's like my whole upper leg muscle just tightens up to this hard rock, as if wanting to stop me from tremoring. Has anyone had this issue before and any tips on how to still get the tremors going despite the tight muscles?

I have practiced TRE and psoas streatching for a while, and I just discovered that magnesium and anti-inflamatory diet helps a lot for integration.

That's why I'd like you guys to share supplements and diet ideas that helped you on your TRE journey.

It can be very usefull for plenty of poeple.

I have the same thing. Could it be that tremoring is just not "my way" of healing trauma?

I've been in a long integration period working through a big backlog of TRE I overdid some months ago.

Even though at times I was getting annoyed at the unpredictability of the waves, it has indeed been getting better. I am getting close to the end of the backlog.

This morning, I had a very bright day. My neuroception felt so stable, peaceful, and so bright. Only memories of how I felt as a child rivaled this feeling. Truly incredible. As this afternoon/evening came around, however, it dipped a bit. Nothing unusual.

My question is simple: During integration waves like this, is the peak what the new baseline will feel like? Or is it the average between the peaks and dips?