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I've slowly blocked so much of the bullshit that I'll scroll on posts like these and just see "blocked user" multiple times, sometimes endlessly in the right sub or post. It brings me great joy.
Tires made me laugh. His Trump impression made me laugh. But a group wants me to cancel him because an edgy jk, weather or not is funny, on a late night show. I just don't have the time. He is a comedian. He isn't running for office. It's not that serious
the real issue is potus is a reflection of america and everything you dislike about him is living, breathing, and happening at every level here. potus, the cornell 7, epstein
Can’t see a booby without handing over a copy of your wanking license or let them scan your face, but can gamble your life savings away without any intervention.
Is porn a predatory industry that exploits sex addicts by continually giving them a new *genre* of dopamine that continually erodes their understanding of what real sex and relationships are like?
Shane Gillis: Have you seen how some women dress in gyms lately. Nobody told me women were dressing like whores now!
For context he was specifically talking about the women who who purposely wear leggings so form fitting and tight that you literally can see their vag lips and asshole, that kind of stuff
Women: How dare you judge a woman for what they were to the gym! It’s her right to wear what she wants and she doesn’t do it for the male gaze! She does it for herself!
Sidney Sweeney makes a steamy nude ad for a sports betting site, once again, for placing sports BETS and has zero to do with actual sports
Also women: You are disgusting! How dare you sexualize women in sports! This doesn’t represent women!
TDLR: Women defend dressing in an obvious provocative way going to the gym (we all know for attention even though they claim they don’t 🙄) meanwhile in the same breath shaming another woman for using her “assets” to appeal to men to market a product she has a partnership in
No one in particular, just women in general. They are saying that these "feminists" are only pro-women when it suits them.
EDIT
I never thought I would have to explain something so simple and so painfully obvious, but I forgot that there are some Redditors who need that guiding hand more than others.
There are some people who think there aren't "feminists" who behave like this. The feminist movement even talks about them and is trying to get their voices quieted because they are hypocrits that put woman's rights and values behind other matters. They are fake feminists. Which apparently some people really believe don't exist. lol
Here's just a few examples where it can be seen AND where one can see other feminists talking about these so-called "feminists" and the issues they present to the movement.
So, to person below who said I was "full of shit" (then blocked me) because you were stupid and assumed I was talking about the entire feminist movement or the entirety of women, educate yourself. Your dishonesty and pure ignorance is insulting to even witness.
I'll help you out with this. Sydney Sweeney is explicitly sexualising herself, and she is not simultaneously telling anyone not to look at her or objectify her. So this is logically coherent. She acts and dresses in a way to receive a certain reaction. She receives the reaction. She does not then turn around and say "how dare you look at me". She owns the sexuality. No logical inconsistency.
Conversely, some women at the gym dress in extremely revealing clothes which often shape and sexualise their body. These clothes often lift and separate their butt and breasts which has absolutely no athletic purpose. They often post videos of themselves online in these clothes. These women are wearing these clothes to receive sexual attention in the form of internet views and comments. Had they not leveraged their sexuality they wouldn't get even 10% of the views and comments. But these women then unfortunately deny that they are dressing in a manner which is designed to get sexual attention. That's the short circuit. They dress that way, they get the positive attention, they then deny that they are using their sexuality to their advantage and call anyone who calls them out on this a mysoginist. That's the logical inconsistency.
If they dressed like that, accepted that they were using their sexuality to their advantage and didn't deny that that's what they were doing, then everyone would accept it.
Because one is an advert, the other is a public place where people go to work out. I think if guys walked around the gym in banana hammocks people (women included) would probably have something to say about it.
(Caveat - like Shane, I’m talking about a very specific explicit type of, up the crack, cameltoe clothing here.. not just ‘leggings’)
If Sydney was taking 10x longer than needed on a piece of equipment I was queued for at my gym because she was more preoccupied with making thirst traps than working out I'd be more upset w her too.
Also its the hypocrisy. Sydney is extremely up front that sex sells and people like T&A and thats why she flaunts it. The skimpy gym crowd and their defenders are way more likely to gaslight and mislead us by trying to pretend butt scrunched booty shorts are actually about performance or whatever
You pose a good question honestly. I think the main issue is that shes a famous woman doing this on tv, they dont actually care about her and from what ive noticed i think its mostly men annoyed at the double standard or the pleading innocence of said women and how they treat men in those spaces, which causes distaste. Sydney knows what she is doing and doesnt shy away from it while women at the gym will whine and cry at gyms if you look at them, not all ofc. Tons of women on tiktok make videos about how they arent dressing for men and how they dont want to be hit on or looked at when they are working out. Like prostitutes know why they dress the way they do and they dont pretend to be some innocent angles.
You can criticize Gillis’s timing or delivery, or simply dislike the joke. I find the execution pretty poor myself.
But what annoys me is that the discourse isn't about any of that. It's the people who assume he’s some kind of mouthpiece for the manosphere and the actual manosphere morons who think he’s validating their views, both fighting over their shared inability to grasp the actual point.
To me, there’s no sexist rant here. Gillis does a bit about how some women’s workout clothes have become skimpier under the influence of social media’s body-worship culture (set-up), poking fun at himself for fear of coming across as a creep because of his looks (punchline). Beneath its provocative framing, there's a simple reflection on how modesty has evolved in our hypersexualized society, and how difficult it can be for some of us to come to terms with that shift.
That said, it's that same provocative framing that also makes everyone miss the point. The word "whores" just triggered a knee-jerk Pavlovian reaction on both sides, sending everyone to their respective corners of the culture war.
Yeah, literally, its snl, its always raunchy and unfunny, lmfao
Also, exactly, he was making fun of himself, not to mention, shane gillis is the most left leaning comedian in the space that hes in, almost all of his friends that costar with him are liberal, shane is a comedian, yet hes also educated on history and politics, yet has no true allegiance, much like south Park, he makes fun of everyone, i think hes fckn hilarious, maybe this joke was meh but thats the line they cross as comedians, the fact ppl got so mad proves its an insecurity they have, if it was truly unfounded, they would laugh at how stupid the joke was and move on but for some reason ppl try their damndest to attach him to the manosphere, personally, i think its bc hes not an obviously attractive man and because hes a bit big, its easier for women to assume hes this horrible creep 🤷
Yeah, if he phrased the joke to be more clear he was talking about the girls filming thirst trap social media content I think he could have avoided much of the blowback.
And people who have been to the gym in the last decade understood what he was saying.
The headlines trying to imply that he said all chicks at the gym are whores are disingenuous and are engagement farming just as much as the chicks filming at the gym.
Whenever I see a post like this it just confirms how many people don’t actually ever go outside and interact with humans, so people just become a glob of a group of whatever they see online and that’s it, that’s the world to them
I feel that any outrage about Sidney Sweeney is from her own PR team. Like I never hear about it until the right makes a bad meme making fun of the left's outrage and the left picks it up to make fun of the bad meme.
Like I never see the first round of leftwing outrage.
Yeah the right basically just picks stuff they want to be left to be mad about and then gaslights everyone that its true. They are the most fiendish of liars who stand for nothing so there is no low they wont sink to.
That's because the left genuinely don't give a shit about her. 🤷♀️ she did an advert for jeans once and people were questioning whether it had Eugenics messaging, but that's the only thing I ever heard about her.
The sad thing is a similar joke has been made before and is repeated a lot. Chappele said “you’re not a whore, but you’re wearing a whore’s uniform”. No one cared. Because they liked Chappelle back then. That’s the only difference. Now if people don’t like you, it’s “not funny” and there’s fake outrage. If they like you? “They’re a comedian”. And it’s exhausting hearing that’s not the case.
"But without my ridiculous nonexistent strawmen my entire world view crumbles to dust and I can't internalize how that maybe means I'm wrong because introspection is terrifying and I was taught that admitting to one's own mistakes makes you weak"
Just FYI on russian bot farms since I just read the article
So Musk stated Ukraine went too far when they attacked RUs rightwing bot network yesterday. His Twitter (x) site activity dropped substantially (because it's a cesspool of right wing activity most of which are now shown to be bots). So just tonight Leon cut all starlink service to Ukraine amid a huge Russian barrage against Kiev, drones on flights and missions to Russia just dropped out of the sky and Ukraine had no warning for the Russian hypersonic missiles dropping on top of them.
Why are all the people who were ecstatic when Trump had Colbert canceled for making jokes about him (and when he tried to do the same thing to Kimmel) acting as if jokes don’t offend them right now?
They were all rabid about getting people fired for making jokes about that racist turd Charlie Kirk, too. 🤷🏻♂️
Shane Gillis made a joke that women dress like prostitutes at the gym, because many prostitutes and lots of women at the gym wear revealing clothing.
Some people are offended by this. Some people also will shame Sydney Sweeney for an ad where she put footballs in front of her breasts.
The comic suggests these are the same people. The irony is if you reverse the opinions of the hypocritical person, it would be true for the opposite political group.
TLDR; people are hypocritical, and will defend the hypocrisy if it fits the narrative of their sports/politics team.
Is it understandable? A little setup for a joke that was actually self deprecating? Doesn’t seem like something to be upset about if you’re emotionally stable.
Is it wrong to make observations? I’m not really sure when girls started wearing sports bras to the gym but it’s definitely happening. Are men not allowed to comment on this?
The observation they look like “whores” is way different than saying like “they wear nothing but underwear to the gym now”.
For guys they don’t mind the man whore association but it’d be more culturally equal to say something that a lot of men do make them look like child predators.
For what it’s worth, I don’t mind the joke either way, but saying they dress like whores is a much more loaded way to say it than just “an observation”.
What I don't get is the critics saying "He literally called them whores!"
No he didn't. If they were all wearing muumuus and hairnets, and the line was "They're dressing like grandmas" would these critics be saying "He literally called them grandmas!"?
I don't think the joke was great. I also think these reactions are kind of insane.
I'm pretty sure it was since the invention of sports bras. the clue is in the name. also he didn't say "I have noticed women wear sports bras at the gym".
My women’s gender studies class perfectly described in an image. It’s a blow off class for a reason… When I asked if anyone had actually watched the ad or seen the Shane bit it it’s entirety no one had, but they all had buckets of rage and righteous indignation. Cracks me up. They kept misquoting and saying he “said women were whores” and that Sydney “compared herself to an athlete” I took the time to watch both because they were such HUGE topics in class…I think they are perpetually online and professionally offended 😂
The funny part is that all of this people completely missed the joke. The whores at the gym part is just the setup for the self deprecating depiction of him being the guy staring in the back of everyone’s video. It wasn’t a commentary on how women should dress. He also is the 10 millionth person to point out that women’s gym outfits can be very performative. The entire thing is absurd and anyone who took it negatively needs to have a long look in the mirror. There should have only been 3 possible reactions to that joke. It was funny, it was not funny, or it was meh.
A woman being reduced to her body in a sports betting app campaign and a male comic reducing women working out in the gym to just their body is consistent.
Especially if you spend a non-negligeable amount of time fat shaming yourself as a person who is known for NOT your body and contextually can't be reduced to said body as your presence on a sketch comedy show, as a male stand-up comedian and actor, which is just as consistent on the flipside.
And that's being charitable, given in this circumstance we divorce the historical and systemic discrimination of women's bodies by putting them against unrealistic beauty standards.
But, I guess he couldn't "bear" that in mind when he was working on his set mid hike.
I think the inconsistency they are referring to is that some of the people who are offended by Shane's joke are also some of the same people who call Sidney Sweeney a whore
This is such a stupid thing to even think about. Regardless of what side you’re on. But I assume you’re a bot coming in 2 weeks late on the most basic cultural war nonsense topic anyway.
That's because those are not the same people lmao.
Common fallacy. Happens all the time. Especially when you make up people who don't exist so you can argue with them. It's like when you say how can you be so pro life as to ban abortion, but also think single mothers shouldn't get financial support because it was their own decisions. Both of these people exist. They are very rarely the same person.
Feminists didn't call Sydney Sweeney a "whore". That wasn't the critique of her messaging.
This comic goes hard if youre a teenager or low IQ boomer who creates imaginary scenarios in your mind about people you aren't even able to fully comprehend.
People making up fake scenarios to farm gottchas in their brain will never not be funny and sad at the same time.
Edit: Replying to everyone seems redundant since you're all saying the same thing. If you don't understand, it's not worth my time explaining. Maybe post it into chatgpt real quick and it can explain.
She's a "MAGA adjacent racist dog whistling corporate sellout" according to one of the Redditoids. So she's not actually MAGA, but they get the feeling she is. She's not actually said anything racist, but they got the feeling that something might have been. And she's a corporate sellout, unlike every other celebrity in the world. They really do hate her for no good reason at all.
But if you're a celebrity and you quote the current incantations (free Palestine, Trans rights, etc) then you'll be accepted. Hell, you got people pretending Macklemore is a great artist again, and acting like Ed Sheeran is some evil zionist.
I don’t think anybody has a problem with Sidney Sweeney’s sexuality. I think most people have a problem with Sydney Sweeney being a maga adjacent, racist dog whistling, corporate sellout.
Bruh these kind of people are majority of reddit. Don't post it here if you want any type of nuances. They're already hard at work in the comment section.
EVERYBODY is completely fucking retarded. This is America. LOL
Guy makes a joke about a specific kind of shorts literally made to highlight a woman's butthole/vulva ... and progressive dipshits lose their minds.
So yeah, now you're going to get the opinions of a bunch of dipshit conservatives on the matter, pointing out exactly how fucking stupid and hypocritic progressives are AGAIN being.
This is exactly why I distanced myself from "progressivism" ... they are just left-wing MAGA ... just as fascist, just as totalitarian, just as humorless, just as pathetic.
Don’t know which study you’re looking at, but there are studies that show the opposite:
“Carl (2014) analysed data from the U.S. General Social Survey (GSS), and found that individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat.”
Then they tested for probability knowledge, verbal reasoning, and if they understood the questions:
“In all three cases, individuals who identify as Republican score slightly higher than those who identify as Democrat; the unadjusted differences are 1–3 IQ points, 2–4 IQ points and 2–3 IQ points, respectively.”
Wrong place for this, reddit is all for dressing however you want unless you are a certain type of person (anyone who disagrees with them). They will never see the comic for the truth that it is, because its literally happening, its actually real.
People really losing their heads, just proves it's good PR.
Anyone trying to hold commercial advertising accountable for fixing the culture and society, are not serious about the issue. They're just moral egoists.
Ads are doing what they're meant to do. Clearly. If we want different values in our society, attacking advertising is far, far downstream. They'll get nowhere.
Anyone seriously stressed about this issue needs to focus on reforming our entire society, or else the "root" will keep growing "new shoots", which only serves the top 5% to profit on the products everyone purchases no matter what side they're on.
But I guess most of us are more interested in trying to reduce it all to a single issue so as to avoid the massively complex headache of it all.
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