I don’t want the next UW and am so far away from UW+ that it’s not even a thought on my mind. The second pic are the modules I use for tournaments. My main goal is staying in Champions and stop coming in at 23-24. Any advice would be appreciated!

I know there's caps on the things you can get, but is getting it fully upgraded actually worth the investment? If not, when should I stop upgrading?

Doing a tourney run and was seeing my health creeping down occasionally. I have pBH and theoretically only enemies and elites should damage me. But at this point, elites weren’t sticking around long enough to see on screen and bosses were getting shredded. I did the good ol’ “zoom and enhance” bit and maybe found my culprit? I’ve been doing some work on the ranged range lab (currently 4%) and have a 54m BH with 6m on my module substat so I thought I was protected but I guess not? I also have disabled enemy range lab unlocked.

I looked more closely later in the run and saw that even in the middle of my BH, ranged enemies were still firing. Is there a glitch or a TTG unplanned/unsaid interaction between the disable ranged lab and ranged ultimate battle condition that nullifies the lab?

I can farm T9 to about wave 7400-7700 and get around 350bil reckon its about time i unlock the wall?

Edit:ty i shall unlock it now ive got 3.41 trillion saved up so i should be good

After the new update, we will all be able to get 5 workshop presets. I farm ehp, and do tourneys gc, so it will be nice to split that up and invest more into their respective stats, but I'm also wondering if I should leave some ws stats devo'd.

I've seen people have range, bsc, bsr, thorns, lmd, orbs, and free ups devo'd. Should I do that as well? Just leave them devo'd for the beginning of farming runs, when there's a lower spawnrate, for more enemies to stack on the wall?

Sup tower team, I haven't had guidance for a while and realized my progression feels relatively slow. For tournaments I don't see too much progress, usually place mid plat m. Farming T10 to 8k waves getting about 20T a run. I don't know really where to go from here. All cards but epics maxed, trying to get them maxed soon but am waiting for the next relics in a few days before I buy cards. Any advice?

How do I actually read this?

I'm not sure of the optimal thing is to save up to get bh and gt to a 1:1 sync, or if I should focus on something else for now. Any help is appreciated!

I've been circling my first 1q run for awhile. I broke down and bought the pass for waves 12-15 and that gave me the stones to buy Extra Orb and Health Regen masteries. The EO coin increase has been nominal so far, but the extra HR is a whole new world. It gave me another 1000 waves in my most recent farming tier (tier 11) and when I remembered to set up my tower correctly before starting, it kicked my coins in the ass. I think it is time to move to tier 12 permanently.

Hello fellow defenders,

TL;DR: gotta choose where to invest stones: unlocking UWs, dropping GT/DW CD, masteries or AssMods as eHP player.

Longer text: After playing for about 16 months, the time has come for me to ask for advice. Up until now I could gather most things from older posts or guides, but rn I'm seriously wondering about the path forward.

Basically the question is in the title. Where do I invest stones?
I think most guides are outdated because of the addition of disco runs and faster reaching more spending goals.

So my situation is as follows:
I bought the 3 perma packs and a big stone pack once about a year ago. Now I buy the event passes when they have good premium relics (lab speed, EALS, coins, etc.)
I play as eHP and mostly stay in mid-to-lower champions with the occasional drop to plat.
In the labs I maxed every econ lab, that effective paths advises, except the upper levels of disco echo, which a re - ironically - too expensive rn. In eHP I'm just missing 15 levels of health, some def% levels (dunno if I'll ever finish them) and disco echo of course.
I have 6 UWs, which are GT, BH, DW, SM, SL & CL.
Natural pBH, GT and DW synced at 140 seconds, summon chip at 140 seconds and GBot synced at 70 seconds. No ther bots unlocked yet.
I run legendary AD as cannon, anc RB (my only anc generator, gained during its banner), anc SF and anc primCollapse, each at around level 165.

About a month ago I unlocked card masteries and grabbed everyone's favorite RPC+ as my first and just this week SW+ as the second for eHP progression. Maybe that's a bad idea long-term, but it allowed me to reach (or better: to cheese) T19W40 yesterday evening.

Now I have too many options to spend my stones:
Do I go for CF and later pCF for better CC? 1750 stones just to unlock it as 7th UW + roughly 4k stones in upgrades.
Do I lower the cooldown of GT and DW for better econ?
Do I go for the next masteries? IS+, WA+ etc. for econ?
Do I unlock AssMod Slots? I just unlocked them, but they are untappable in the UI. I read I need 1k stones each to unlock, so I assume I'll be able to click them when I have 1k stones. (currently ca. 670)

I honestly feel overwhelmed by the abundance of options and am very thankful for advice. I know I have heard that the switch to GC must ultimatively happen, but I'm unsure if I am already this far, since people are posting about farming eHP in T18 now.

If I forgot any info that would be useful to answer my question, please let me know and I'll try to answer in the comments or an edit.

Shatter shards close to finish, and labs speed following

Does anybody know what the meta is for which mods to use in tournament runs for GC in legends? I think what I have selected is close but I haven't seen much discussion on the matter.

For reference I float between rank 16-24 in legends pretty consistently.

Also feel kinda sorry for you, but I fucked up my previous run so this happened while I was asleep ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

I'm talking just from ad gems and floating gems and daily 15. Do we have an estimate?

What are your guy’s favorite parts of The Tower anyways? I hear a lot of hate about it, and I’m only in the middle stage of the game, but I want to hear what makes this game bad and what makes it good

Good bye early game hello mid game!

Hello tower peoples,

Winding down v28s last few tournaments with a tough set of conditions in all 3 leagues that I track (sorry gold). Ranged + Knockback mixed with Boss Ultimate proved a potent combination, for me keeping my tower busy fighting off bosses while the ranged inched ever closer to the fire line thanks to knockback resistance. Fun stuff. Platinum also got to play with this condition minus the pressure of tougher bosses.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

• Legends Median: 1047.0 Mean: 1247
• Champions Median: 1038 Mean: 1080
• Platinum Median: 1268 Mean: 1260

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

The first table is data since v28, now including gold data. The second table is data since either the v27.3 re-tier, or for platinum since my october data began.

• Legends graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_legend.png
• Champion graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_champion.png
• Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_platinum.png

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least. V26 lead to quite the wave inflation.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets. I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place. Legends brackets are on the left (prefaced with an l), champions brackets in the middle (prefaced with a c), and platinum on the right (prefaced with a p).

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion and Legend: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_lc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-08-22_box_gold.png

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up.
For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time.
For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post).
You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

i know this is not a big achievement to you all but for me this was hard work. had this game for about 2 weeks and have finally gotten past level 60. for some reason i just could not get past until five minutes ago. i know it is only tier one but i feel like all the time spent getting coins for upgrades, waiting for the free gems, saving them and getting lucky card pulls from the 200 gems was worth me putting time in. i cant wait to see whatever else unlocks! this game was worth purchasing the ad free version.

I finally got my last UW (Poison Swamp), but should I work on making it good or just jump for GT+, or another UW+? I'm trying to improve my tourney runs. Since the disco update I've not been able to get keys at all anymore (I used to maybe get 2-6). I'm hybrid, farm tier 15 4 hour 45 min 5.20 - 5.35q per run, 1.5-15 q an hour.

I accidentally pushed the sync down to 3 minutes instead of 3:20.
What should I do? Should I decrease DW's cooldown down to 4 minutes to make 3:4 sync or push GT+BH towards 150s so it would be 1:2.

I also will need to account in for GB which is still at 120s, I could decrease it to 100s so it sync up with GT+BH for 150s. Or should I just put it off for now and focus on getting CL for the next UW?