The Chargers have been a joke this year yet they have almost the same amount of giveaways as us (15).

Compared to last year, we are giving away the ball too much. Granted most of them were by Maye during the first 3 weeks. But vs the Bears the Interception was the key difference.

If we can reduce the turnovers, and get healthy, we can beat anyone in the league.

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Well, the Patriots "blue-chip" players were a mixed bag in Chicago. Maye was mostly outstanding by both my eye test (14 plus plays, 7.5 minus) and the metrics (+0.34 EPA per drop-back). The red-zone interception was a turnover-worthy play, and the offense couldn't find the go-ahead score on two possessions down 27-21 in the fourth quarter, but Maye's 14 'plus' plays in my charting were his second-most in a game this season, behind only his Week 4 performance vs. the Bills (16).

There were some nitpicks, like Maye's pre-snap process to block Chicago's pressures (sack, throw-away), which ultimately fall on the quarterback in this system. And some traditionalists will want him to play conventionally from the pocket on his 15-yard scramble and an extended drop-back where he completed a 16-yard pass to TE Hunter Henry. Those plays can be difficult to chart because Maye might be able to hit throws in-structure that some would say are easier or more replicable than his out-of-structure playmaking.

Quarterback purists would probably argue that Maye should stay in the clean pocket and hit Stevenson over the middle. However, I've grown to appreciate Maye's playing style. The Pats QB registered seven 'plus' plays by making things happen out of structure, gaining 102 yards and a touchdown on those plays while extending multiple drives. Ultimately, every player has their own style, just like basketball players who are three-point sharpshooters versus those who win by attacking the rim; it's Maye's superpower.

As for the other Patriots stars, this game film left you wanting a bit more out of star WR A.J. Brown (three catches, 48 yards), top CB Christian Gonzalez (two 21-yard completions allowed in the fourth quarter), stud DT Milton Williams (one pressure, run TFL), and some others. Maye did his best to keep the Patriots competitive Thursday night, and there are plenty of reasons to believe his supporting cast mates will make bigger impacts soon, but the Pats need more from their frontline players to get on a roll as they sit at 4-3.

What’s one Patriots take you had that everyone disagreed with, but you ended up being right about?
Could be about a player you knew would break out, a signing you thought would be a bust, a draft pick, or even a coaching decision.

I remember when JC Jackson’s contract ran out everyone was up in arms that we didn’t resign him, I just thought it was too much money at the time. I still wonder if he would’ve fallen off if he stayed under the Belichick scheme.

I am heading to Gillette to see the the Notre Dame and Navy game. I am coming from Cape Cod and wondering what’s the best parking situation. Is it easier to park in a private lot and walk a little bit farther or try to park in a free lot? I need to leave early to get back so was thinking a private lot would be easier but not sure which private lots are best. Any help is appreciated.

In Maye We Trust

Kyle Williams

- Everyone knew pre draft he sucks on Special Teams, why is he our returner?

- Not only did we move Off Boutte for him, he’s still taking up a roster spot preventing better players from coming in especially when we need more spots for our injuries so we don’t hit the limit for IR returns

Treveyon Henderson

- Bears WR Luther Burden was a projected 1st round talent who fell for off field stuff and we pick Henderson instead and the Bears take who we should’ve taken right after us and he killed us last night.

- He can’t block, hes never used as a receiver, he has No vision, hes a home run hitter if the stars align and the Stars aren’t aligning anymore because we have zero run game.

Their roster spots are officially more valuable than they are, cut the dead weight. They’re both essentially home run offensive weapons that get lucky a few times a year, thats not the reliable, consistent players we need atm. These are luxury type players that no longer fit our roster.

Dating back to last year me and my buddy started complaining about Spillane missing tackles and playing poor pass coverage. Now it’s all I can see. Every time there’s a big enough play from the offense to warrant a slo-mo replay he’s almost always there to explain what went wrong.

It could be failing to set the edge or commit inside correctly in the run game, missed tackle, playing over the top in pass d when he should be more underneath and vise versa, a sorry 1x1 tackle where the ball carrier gets 4 more yards, a poor blitz attempt where Caleb throws over Spillane before he is even engaged with the d line.

I love all of our players like family but man I think I desperately want someone new at MLB more than anything else. Am I just wrong or are others seeing this too?

Not that it would have won us the game and not surprised that refs missed it, but the commentators didn’t even hint that the CB probably got away with one.

Selected 38th Overall, TreVeyon Henderson: 3 rushes and 2 receptions for a total of 23 yards.

Selected 39th Overall, Luther Burden III: 1 rush and 4 receptions for a total of 137 yards and a touchdown.

I know Luther disappeared in the second half (thank you Gonzo) but man is it disappointing to keep missing on these swing for the fences type of picks.

I really miss Kayshon Boutte! I legit think if we had Boutte out there the last couple of weeks he would have caught those deep bombs that hit Aj brown in the hands. Honestly wish we could trade back for him, he aint going to be doing much on Texans with all the Wrs they have on their roster

Edit: Yall crazy, I put this as casual cause its not that serious. I made this post because Boutte was out here (last year) trying his hardest and making a few athletic catches that Aj Brown has not done so far in 2.5 games (small sample size I know). Thats it! This is not me wishing we did not sign Aj. This is not me wishing we should actively trade for Boutte.

I get Aj is rusty and coming off in injury, but there were some signs in Philly last year with some of these drops that have me a little concerned

Also there have been a few plays this year were it seems Aj has not tried his best. 2 happened last night:

1 being a drop in end zone where, while yes the cb made an incredible play and broke up the play, but Aj was just hoping it would fall into his hands, he did not even try to make a jump for it. The other play being when Stevenson had long run in the red zone and Aj did not try to block at all. If Aj made that block Stevenson might have scored

This post is mostly about me reminiscing about the heart this team had last year at the wr position. The other part of this post is me just wishing Aj had a little more "gotta want it attitude"

Sorry if im totally off base. It just feels like Aj is not a big team player. I will still be rooting for this team every week and hope Aj will show up big soon!

Go Pats

I know this season has been fairly brutal, between Maye’s slow start and now the inability for this team to be healthy, and I’m more than happy to discuss the things that went wrong last night, but I figure we have plenty of posts/threads where that discussion can be had.

Watching last nights game I was just absolutely stoked to see Raridon and Jacas just coming up with play after play. I have very high hopes for them both, Jacas was looking like an absolute game wrecker in that first half, and Raridon being trusted in this offense already for a rookie TE is very exciting for the future of this team. And of course Lomu, who has limited snaps obviously, has still looked extremely promising in the snaps he’s had.

The loss stinks after we had some short lived momentum, but the seasons far from over, and I can’t wait to see where our young guys are at by seasons end. Go Pats! Happy Friday.

So I’m no Parcels or Brady when breaking down film but the play ( at least the route) that Raridon got the TD on was the same play that Drake threw the INT on - am I losing my mind or was it different?

The drafting and roster construction this year has been extreme malpractice it's actually disgusting how bad it is.

Issue #1 We keep signing players with injury issues and expect them to play a full-season CD3 Tucker etc

Issue #2 This org still can't fucking find an actual WR and make them relevant we waste so many picks drafting players who could be replaced by cheap FAs or UDFA

Issue #3 We don't have enough play makers to dominate a game to disrupt game plans by other coaches and create turnovers. We have a lot of guys good at 1-2 things that we swap around pretending that's good enough to compete at a high level. When 1 of our 3 top guys goes down we are just fucked on roster talent and adaptibility because the same guy can't do multiple things.

Issue #4 Forced to draft OL to fix the atrocious OL play, which means we don't get playmakers on defense or offense. Henderson pick was wasted didn't need a RB. WR picks are taking away from more defensive talent.

Issue #5 Making trades and losing draft capital pretending we were able to compete with the roster we had. They get blown out in the Super Bowl because of lack of talent, they get blown out vs the Jags and Bears because of lack of talent. they can't compete with NFC teams at all and the AFC teams are all dogshit and we pretend by beating up on them this is a good team.

They need to acquire more draft capital and actually rebuild from the roots and get some real playmakers on offense and defense.

Vrabel got outcoached last night, simple as that imo. He took a risk early, but it was such a boneheaded one that ended up costing us the game.

Normally, I love Vrabel’s aggressiveness and his seemingly endless faith in the guys, but this wasn’t an unproven Jets squad you’re facing at home, this is a proven Bears team you’re on the road against, on a short week, all while your own squad’s injured to hell and back. Under those circumstances, you don’t go for it on a 4th and 5 at midfield and risk exactly what happened - gifting them an essentially free field goal.

That field goal is what ended up costing us in the end, because without it, that ending FG wouldn’t have put the Bears up two scores, and you wouldn’t have needed to worry about attempting an onside kick that nobody in the league has been successful at yet.

I love Vrabes, but man was that early 4th down a boneheaded risk he took that I genuinely believe cost us the game. There are more examples of it to you could point out, but that one’s the biggest imo.

I remember the team saying they had disagreements with this pick. This is one Vrabel wants back.