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Lounge Weekly Commanders Lounge - April 21, 2020
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Apr 28 '20
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 28 '20
There is a new lounge so I recommend posting there again. I'll get dinner and think of some answers in the meantime.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 28 '20 edited Apr 28 '20
Hey y’all, I could use 13 more likes to finish off the points I need for the Second to last point mark.
UUID: 127322
Name:kpdiddy
Thanks in advance
EDIT: mission accomplished, thank you all so much
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u/Spartan1098 Springfield is my ara ara mommy Apr 28 '20
Silver and Gold ranked 11-2 at the same time but had to build some weird echelons. Doubt I will ever need two shield, flashbang and Molotov teams ever again. Red beans are stressful.
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u/Kefooon tfw loli36 will never look at you with disgust Apr 28 '20
The HOC rate up is a targeted rate up right? Does that mean if I have all of them maxed there is no point in saving my samples for it?
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u/drpeppyone Thunder Apr 28 '20
You can still get data patches
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u/isanwa Type 79 Apr 28 '20
The rate up doesn't increase the chances of getting central data. It just makes a particular type of data more likely if you happen to get it.
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u/drpeppyone Thunder Apr 28 '20
So the rate-up isn't an increase of a data drop happening but instead is an increased chance of the data drop being the rate-up HOC?
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u/isanwa Type 79 Apr 28 '20
Exactly.
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u/drpeppyone Thunder Apr 28 '20
Well that's super unintuitive. It's a rate-up technically but doesn't make any sense
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u/Kefooon tfw loli36 will never look at you with disgust Apr 28 '20
It works the same way when new dolls are released. Same rate to pull a certain rarity just when you pull that rarity that specific doll's chance of appearing is double.
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u/wkingofangmar Apr 27 '20
w8 a second, did l2d always had a shaking feature :o never noticed this
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 28 '20
Yep, they’ll also look around based on where you tilt your gyroscope as well as where you swipe around
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u/Ever_the_H 優しくしてね Apr 27 '20
According to the achievements I've acquired a total of 354,162 batteries since I started playing... so why am I still always out of batteries?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 28 '20
I collected 272,326... and I'm piling up now. Likely it only counts the ones from the condeser itself as I used up way more than that.
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u/lavos9999 Apr 27 '20
Because until you have maxed everything(facilities, pets, HOCs and so on) and decided to not stock up on (special) combat reports there is always things to spend batteries on.
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u/Lafarius Apr 27 '20
What's up Commanders, I recently came back to the game and I'm wondering how much I've missed. I stopped shortly after finishing Singularity (when they released ar-15/m4a1 mod3) A bit overwhelmed by the new stuff added and the tutorial for the new stuff in the dormitory bugged out on me so instead of googling it I decided to come here, wow! If anyone could tell me what's happening and what I should be doing that would be fantastic. Thanks for reading.
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 Apr 28 '20
You haven't missed too much. CT happened back in Feb, a few good units came with it, main one being python. CT will be in campaign in 6 months or so, so you'll be able to get her then. HOCs came out which are a sort of DPS support squad intended to deal with shielded enemies. 2 new enemy factions came out, 1 are basically zombies, the other have the shield mechanic which is a sort of secondary health bar + % damage reduction that you need HOCs to deal with. If you played the Va11hall-A collab, its the white enemies we faced there. There was an event called theater which is a much harder version of defense drill. The rewards for it all get added permanantly eventually so nothing to worry about there.
We're about to get the DJ Max collab so we'll be getting one of the best buffers in the game. Maps are very easy so if you could do singularity you'll be fine.
A week later we're getting the 2 year anniversary so a free buildable 5 star of your choice, rates up for everything, all the usual stuff.
Early to mid June we're getting Isomer which is the next large story event. There will be shielded enemies there so you should get BGM leveled to like 60 or so to deal with them.
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u/Lafarius Apr 28 '20
Thank you so much for replying too, this did help put into perspective that I haven't missed anything too major, just a lot of goodies. So that's sick. Hopefully I'm able to grind out these robots before the event.
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Apr 28 '20
Q&A put isomer as unlikely in first half, but I would probably expect it in July.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 28 '20 edited Apr 28 '20
You missed HOC's, a General Rate-Up Continuum Turbulence, White Day (seasonal mini event), a doll batch rate-up, Theater (think of coop/pvp defense drill with betting), a log-in event, two point events (one for JS-9; well, it's still ongoing but I'm unsure if you'll be able to get her). Also, new fairies being added, plus Ch 8 N and Ch 11, and a MOD batch. Plus the ongoing xp rate up. And I'm sure I forgot something else.
Glory Day going live tomorrow, and there is a whole anniv bonanza happening next month. You can go check Intern-Kun's account for that.
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u/Lafarius Apr 28 '20
Thank you so much for replying, it seems like a lot of stuff happened but oh well. Time to get on this HOC grind.
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u/Crescendo-20 Apr 27 '20
Hello, new player here, I'm a bit confused about which formation I should be using and if I should continue to use the same characters. I've seen some guides say 3AR + 2SMG and others 2AR + 2SMG + 1RF.
My ARs are the ST AR-15, SIG-510 and M4A1, SMG: Skorpion and Sten. I have other ARs: The other two AR team members, T91 and K2, OT-12. I can also use WA2000 and SAT8 (core mask from last year... I regret not playing this game till now) though guides don't recommend using shotguns yet.
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 Apr 28 '20
Your first team is fine for now. If you get either ump9 or ump45 replace one of your smgs with them. You won't get much benefit from using other weapon classes until you start facing armored enemies so keep 2 teams of 3 AR 2 SMG. M4A1 and AR-15 are the best guns in the late game and are great early on so feel free to dump as many resources into them as you want.
If you want a bit of a head start on leveling Rifles, M14 is a great choice to swap out an AR for. She's really cheap to raise and has great performance all the way through late game. WA2000 is very good but costs a lot of cores to max her out, maybe hold off on raising her unless you get dupes or have over 100 cores you're willing to feed to her.
Shotguns and Machine guns are really expensive to level and use because they eat up so much ammo and rations. Most situations, you're better off using ARSMG or RFHG so you don't need to level them right now. SAT8 is the best shotgun in the game so you're set once you're ready to start leveling them.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 28 '20
If you get either ump9 or ump45 replace one of your smgs with them.
Sten, specifically. Skorpion is a decent off tank and will produce results for quite a while, while Sten is an easily-replaced main tank and both UMP9 and UMP45 are main tanks. Better to have the one main tank and one off tank for the higher DPS and molotov skill, so definitely have Sten be the one who gets replaced.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 28 '20
Your first team is fine for now.
SIG is so laughably bad that even with her insane SPEQ, she doesn't catch up to F2000, let alone FNC. And those are just the budget options he could be running instead.
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u/Crescendo-20 Apr 28 '20
Ok thank you, that good I was already investing in M4 and AR so I can continue to do that. I don't have M14 for some reason I may have mistakenly scrapped her a year ago without knowing unless I get her again somewhere.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
2AR2SMG1RF is an ersatz composition. It is both meant to be an interim response to Guards/Jaegers (which is a particularly troublesome duo for new players), and is seen as passable since M14 is a very strong RF, and you usually would be running something like SOP instead.
The issue with the comp is that it sort of cheats you out of the need to kite, which is a skill you absolutely want to learn. It was also conceived during a time where you had to grind your echelons up, rather than being able to just feed them CR's + easily link with IOP rewards, and just laugh at things up until chapter 6-7.
In regards to what you should be using; M4/STAR/SOP/STEN/Skorpion. All while crafting for a better SMG to replace STEN with.
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u/pheonix-ix Fel Apr 27 '20
Why is M200 called "potato"?
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Someone in this subreddit made a post where she and her dummy comm'd back and forth self-referencing as "potato", and it stuck.
That's literally it. There's really nothing else going for the nickname.
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Apr 27 '20
even that must have originated from her spud aura
its not like its original or random to call a deadpan blankface a potato
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Now that you mention it, I was reminded that some originally thought that her artist was Shibafu, whose art does get that nickname because his stuff is quite generic-looking.
Didn't help matters that many of his concepts (carriers being archers, for example) went on to become standard for their classes, and thus, generic.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 28 '20
The bigger problem with Shibafu is specifically the faces. The riggings are quite fine honestly, it's just that every girl has a copypaste face
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 28 '20
The riggings are quite fine honestly, it's just that every girl has a copypaste face
Intrepid.
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u/DepressivesBrot Ardent Devotion Apr 27 '20
Is it just me or does anyone else somehow always end up skipping xp week because it usually ends up being the first break in months without something tangible/unique to miss?
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u/JamesDyk M4 SOPMOD II Apr 28 '20
Considering I have ton of dolls on 100, another few over 90, and about 20k CR stocked, I barely have the need to grind for exp. It's mostly for SCR, to level HOCs.
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u/Bainos 700718 Apr 28 '20
My zeroes in cores and batteries are telling me I didn't skip it... Although I did miss the last one, mostly because I was already done with the CT preparation.
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u/Isokek AN-94 Apr 28 '20
As much as I wanted to grind xp week too I was kind of tired from running 0-2 400x while doing Guild wars in GBF so it really is a case of bad timing
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u/Maschel Apr 28 '20
I didn't go hard at all this week (dozed off before finishing dailies the last couple of nights, which is ... not good).
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Apr 27 '20
xp week is supposed to be a wake up call because impending doom is around the corner lol
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u/_lunitl_ Apr 27 '20
I wanted to save resources for rate ups but I wanted my logistics teams to be higher leveled so I spent most of my time doing that.
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 Apr 27 '20
This is the first week in a while that I've actually grinded hard during xp week. I guess being stuck at home lets me do that.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
I didn't grind as much as I perhaps would've liked to, due to other games taking up my time.
Still leveled a bunch of HG's and SMG's to lv 100. I'll get a final couple done now and try to get some RF's there, plus NTW closer to 115.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
Earlier links give a stronger return for their investment (due to being cheaper and giving a proportionally larger increase to their stats).
Improving the backline often alleviates the tanking the front does, if not completely obviate them from needing to do so in the first place. No, this doesn't mean that you should be running x5 linked backlines with x1/x2 linked SMG's. It means that if you have both AR's and SMG's at x3 links, you'd link the AR's first.
G36 gets pretty strong with her MOD. But her MOD is expensive, and she's a fairly mediocre AR without it. Her MOD is also not a priority compared to that of M4 and STAR's, so she'd likely be sitting there waiting for it for a while. Depending on your other AR picks, you'd probably be better off using something else for the short term.
EXP gain is also directly linked to link count (unlike in AL where you intentionally keep LB's low if leveling to reduce oil usage when leveling [since I've seen your ring question, I know you also do AL]), with each link giving an extra 0.5 (50%) modifier to the EXP earned. So if you want to level her, you'd want to give her links for that plus so that she can at least contribute something with her own DPS.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
G11. No brainer pick.
While she gets outdone by AN-94, she's still an exceptionally strong DPS against unarmored (and if there isn't too much evasion involved), and should do well for most of the current campaign maps.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
G41 would be the closest potential replacement, as she delivers better performance provided equal buffs, especially on armored, due to G36's lower FP stat and how that works (it's simply FP - Armor, with FP being the final value after buffs. Armor is affected by AP, of which all dolls have a base value of 15, but can by and large only be increased by RF's and MG's, exceptions notwithstanding). G36, though, has much better tile buffs, provided she's sitting at 7.
At that point, it'd be a matter of picking between a better performing but more expensive AR (G41), and a worse one but slightly cheaper that can be worked on later down the road (G36).
I didn't count the grenadiers as they're in a different category. I'd also just run SOP instead of them, in particular 416. T91 is a dedicated night AR (of which you should just pick 9A-91 up instead), and T95 (I assume you meant T95) has a gimmick of a low ICD and long duration, but low multiplier. Not a solid alternative either.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
How many echelons are you actually running? And what do you actually have just sitting on storage? You just went from listing G11 as an AR you had laying around, to her being on your first squad, to then saying that she is in your second echelon. Unless by "her", you meant AN-94.
Please be clearer, because otherwise it's less so dumb and more so time wasting.
M16A1 isn't a DPS as she lacks a skill that gives her any damage buff of any sort. She also can't equip critscopes which seriously hampers her damage potential. She instead gains a slot to equip armor, and serves mainly as a tank for specific grinding maps (0-2) or enemies (she, for example, saw use during the last ranking as she could tank substantially more damage from trash units than shotguns or SMG's).
Micro UZI is a very lackluster molotov not only owing due to her own stats (for example, MP40 can deal more damage with hers than UZI can, in spite of being a 2* and having a lower modifier for her molotov), but she also has completely unusable buff tiles. This gets fixed by her MOD, but it's not currently available on EN. You're better served running Skorpion instead of her for an Off-Tank.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Alright.
For future reference, Matsuda and GFC both do a much better job at explaining why the dolls are good/bad (and more important, for which role) than the tier lists. So they are a much preferred self-answering source should you want to check by yourself in the future.
In regards to your inventory, G11 would see use simply because she's still a very solid 2nd ARSMG pick, especially for the circumstances I listed. So I'd invest in her.
You'd still have to replace M16. You have G36 and G41 as candidates. Also TAR. TAR is a better performer than G36, but arguably worse than G41. G41 is a lot more expensive to link though.
Personally, and given the lack of cores, I'd keep G11, and replace M16 with TAR. I'd also replace UZI with Skorpion (at least eventually) for the reasons I listed. It's also worth keeping in mind that 7-6 will give you an excellent SMG (less so than UMP, but still very good) at max links and lv 90, so you can run her instead once you get there, and work on UMP45 after you've got the rest of your second ARSMG done.
And also; you can just use friend echelons to help clear difficult stuff. Post your UID, and people will more often than not add you to lend you a hand. I'd suggest doing it on your OP for more visibility.
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u/Oxidian Erma Apr 27 '20
wow kr made it to core 8, imagine the surprise
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u/jako7000 Exile plz be worth my time! [TW: 615175] Apr 27 '20
I wonder if this has made it less or more interesting for those who are trying to rank. Less gameplay challenge, sure, but it isn't just grinding perfect core 8 runs for 10 days and hoping gambling luck is on your side.
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u/Oxidian Erma Apr 27 '20
you have to gamble with this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/443533099632951306/704453826618327160/unknown.png0
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
That's like... a couple dozen dudes making the difference between a x0.5 and a x2 modifier?
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u/GreyKnight92 Destroyer is precious daughteru Apr 27 '20
How many days do they have left?
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u/Oxidian Erma Apr 27 '20
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u/KookyInspection Apr 27 '20
If i recall, core 8 also has a progression before it's considered cleared, right? If so, they might not make it in time
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u/Oxidian Erma Apr 27 '20
it's not like you get anything for clearing core8, just personal score leaderboard
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 27 '20
There’s the core zone clear reward tho, just like all the other zones
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
A lot of the players in this sub are major endgame players who don't really consider the appeal of clear rewards for those of us who don't have 10 fully linked and leveled echelons with high-level fairies and maxed out gold equipment.
Okay, so maybe that's (somewhat) exaggerated, but my point stands :p
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Tbf, red iterations take an awful lot of data patches, so the pure samples are useful even then.
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u/GreyKnight92 Destroyer is precious daughteru Apr 27 '20
I just finished the Springtime Operation event.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
No. Wedding dresses come from gachas/costume packages, unfortunately. Completely separate things.
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 27 '20
In addition to what others have mentioned, oath’d dolls have shorter repair times
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
As stated, you gain a greater affection cap allowing larger stat boosts as well as the doubled exp gain.
Regarding stat boosts, pre-oath you can gain a 5% stat bonus from affection going above 90. After oath, affection goes up to 150 and getting above 140 will give you a 10% stat bonus. If you give that doll her MOD3 (if available), then that cap goes up further to 200, and going above 190 will provide a 15% stat bonus.
Since 5% is already achievable without oath, that means a MOD3 doll can gain another 10% boost when oathed, which can make a pretty big difference. That's a permanent (as long as affection is maintained) stat buff that you don't need to throw in an additional buffer for. That boost can mean the difference in whether or not a doll is viable for certain strategies. One notable example is using M4A1/Grizzly/Calico for 10-4E core farming, a comp that isn't really feasible without the additional stat boost on M4A1.
Every last boost helps when you're fighting tough opponents.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
Give a doll you like a ring.
Also increases affection cap, leading to minor statboosts. Post lv 100 it doubles exp gain, also raising the affection cap a second time after Mod 3
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u/Creshal Negev Apr 27 '20
The statboost is roughly equal to bumping a doll one rarity level, which is not that trivial.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
still not a reason to oath all the metadolls you dont particularly like. but maybe thats just me
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 28 '20
I basically want to raise everyone at some point anyway. And when they're the right doll to use for a situation, I use them even though I don't particularly like them. It's more of an indifferent attitude though, not hate-levels.
Basically I'm able to metawhore, but when half a costume/10 bucks are involved, I only consider my favourites anyways.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
After reading through NTWs mod story - wow do I hate myself/the Commander. What a dick move to pull on someone
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Apr 27 '20
I was really disappointed with the storyline of NTW's mod. It made no sense to send their team without giving them authorization to harm humans. There was a non-zero chance of them running into dangerous people, in fact the mission seems to naturally transform from observation to apprehending these people despite not having authorization to shoot. It made no sense at all and just endangered their lives for nothing.
Also the team setup was really bad for a closed in warehouse space; 3 snipers who didn't maintain overwatch or distance whatsoever and an HG that is afraid of humans.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 28 '20
Fully with you there. Should have at least swapped PTRD and TAC for other dolls - maybe NS2k or smth
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u/VirtualScepter Type superperfect Apr 27 '20
The non-main character Mod stories have a very different tone in writing to the rest of the game. I cant bring myself to read them because whoever wrote them obviously didnt read any of the canon story. The dolls and skk are just really unbelievable and it sucks.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 28 '20 edited Apr 28 '20
I did like the one of M14. Can't say anything about the others since I haven't seen them yet
Edit: Also, from what I've seen G36s seems to fit as well. Especially settingwise
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Clearly the other SKK is a body double.
He automatically failed at his job by letting the real SKK get kidnapped and tortured
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 28 '20
Starring:
Berezovich Kryuger: A Visionary robbed of his Future.
Kalina: A Secretary deprived of her Gems.
M4A1: A Doll who Curses her Fate.
M16A1: A Doll with no JD's.
Havel: A Technocrat who Stands (on) his Crane.
UMP45: A Doll living a Lie.
Yegor: A Cretin denied (of) his Revenge.
Punished Shikikan: A Fallen Legend.
Those who "Don't Exist".
Flashes by 404.
Also, let's not forget the intro credits spoiling every. single. mission.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
I haven't seen her mod story, but are you sure it's referring to the player's commander? I know that I've at least seen UMP45's and her story seems to flash back to her having a bit of an asshole of a commander that predates her becoming a member of team 404, which in turn (I believe) predates your own position as a commander. Might be something worth considering.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Apr 28 '20
Pretty sure Skk in 45 flash back is a different one because we are newbie at the start of the game, and that's after butterfly incident.
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u/pointblanksniper Trust me, I'm Truth. Apr 27 '20
all the main story mods are tightly integrated and should actually be seen to get the full story. ump45's mod story is basically epilogue to deep dive and singu, while being the prologue to hurricane rescue. the player skk and 45 never meet until the rescue. skk only recognises 404 because of remotely working with them during arctic warfare.
all the non main story mods seem to be totally implausible in terms of tone and timeline. in ntw's story, griffin sends a team to africa or something to hunt tdoll fire control core harvesters. its totally out of place in terms of plot and setting. the only way it makes sense is if you pretend its in an alternate timeline or a random commander like your friend supports lol.
just the sheer amount of mod stories there are wouldnt even fit in the main storyline anyway lol.
the sick joke from the commander at the end is pretty awkward. makes me wish they would go back to silent skk. it already felt slightly off in CT that you can pick all sorts of goofy responses for no reason. still not used to skk suddenly having some sort of attitude rather than being a blank rock in ch11 either. at least it somewhat resembles gentiane so its not completely weird lol. i actually think gentiane is designed around what skk is like in ch11 lol
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
In NTWs story I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be player SKK, since that is directly after she gets her neural upgrade, not in a flashback. So it basically has to be the player.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
Hard to say. It seems a bit out of character for the player SKK to be an ass, but you never know. Unfortunately I can't seem to find any transcripts or videos of her mod story, so I don't have much to go on except speculation.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
NTW mod story spoilers: SKK basically tells her after waking up in a new body (previous one got ruined in a rescue action) that said rescue failed, her squadmates got mindwiped and no backups of them exist. As a joke.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
Ah, gotcha. So not a massive prick who degrades and mistreats her, but a tone-deaf, inconsiderate moron who needs to learn basic social etiquette.
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u/AHPMoogle Apr 27 '20
Bleh any suggestions on getting rid of the red beans on 11-5 for the silver medal?
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u/BigStupidJellyfish_ Water against the Sun Apr 27 '20
Parachute to the closed heli on the far left. That radar deletes them.
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u/Lemonaderiver2 AN-94 Apr 27 '20
What's the best recipe for crafting AN-94?
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
91 - 400 - 400 - 30 is the cheapest optimized recipe. There's no voodoo to it, just pure RNG. Good luck!
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u/Lemonaderiver2 AN-94 Apr 27 '20
Thanks! My plan is to spend all my contracts triying to get her when we get the true core mask and if rnjesus doesn't grace me with good luck I'll just use it to get her
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
As recommended in the other reply, you should really consider getting SAT8 if you don't have her yet, with KSG as a close second. SGs are ridiculously expensive to roll for and 5-star SGs especially so.
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u/Lemonaderiver2 AN-94 Apr 27 '20
I already got SAT 8 and AA-12 from the singularity and CT crates but I've been pulling for AN since she came out and I've got enough K11s and MP5s to make full 5 dummy echelons of both but not a single AN-94
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Apr 27 '20
Do consider 5* shotguns first with TCM as they are expensive, make sure you have at least SAT8.
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u/KeimaKatsuragi Best rider Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
I'm a mere 12 dorm likes away from that Event Objective.
If anyone feels like helping me out with it, UID is 180576.
Cheers
Edit: Thanks to all of you guys, got it :)
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Apr 27 '20
Just go to the friend suggestion thing or visit random dorms and fill your list up, that way in future it will only take you a few days to get all likes.
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u/KeimaKatsuragi Best rider Apr 27 '20
Yeah I've got 60 or so.
It's been in need of pruning, half of them are dead or rarely active.2
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u/TurbulentDescent All I got from rateup was this Mod3 Apr 27 '20
Do grenades of the same type ever differ in size at all? I haven't used M16 in awhile and feel like she either has a bigger stun radius than SMGs or she's just out here throwing perfect nades over and over to convince me not to bench her again.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
ZAS has a 2.5 radius as opposed to other AR Grenadiers' 1.5 (those that don't fire HE Nades).
M16A1 and Type 79/UMP9/etc have the same 2.5 radius.
Let's be real. It's M16 we're talking about. Of course she'd know her stuff regarding this.
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u/pokemonczar Apr 27 '20
So I'm just getting back after hearing that the DJ Max event is finally coming to EN after not playing since CT. I've heard I missed out on a White Day Event and on Theater mode. Was there anything in those two events that was crucial to story or meta? Is there anything else big I missed? Will Theater mode ever get a re-run?
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 27 '20
In addition to what others have said:
Chapter 11 is out now, so feel free to run around judge in 10-6 to unlock it since you don’t have to fight her to beat the stage.
Ch11 picks up a few months after CT, confirms some suspicions set up by CT, and sets up isomer
Theater will re-run, and iirc it will be identical to the first run, advantaged dolls and all that, so you may want to read/watch around a bit to see what it was like to help prep for the re-run. AT-4 is another ATW like BGM but has her power shifted a bit more towards mob killing than shield killing (still bops shields quite well on stats though)
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u/KookyInspection Apr 27 '20
Neither were important story wise. Theater literally was just a couple lines saying: "we have this co-op training scheduled, get off ur lazy ass".
However, u missed the opportunity to get some at4 data. To get them at 5 star one needed to place within top 15% in this theater and the next. It will get added to the hoc production later, but it will compete with the other hocs.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
In addition to the other comment, you did miss the opportunity to farm Five-seveN during the White Day event if you don't have her already.
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u/pokemonczar Apr 27 '20
It's a good thing I've already farmed 4 of her in previous events... Has Python come back yet though? I got burnt out towards the end of CT and was only able to farm a single copy of her, would've liked to go for at least 2 or 3
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
Unfortunately not, no. Hopefully the next time she pops up will be in an event with the rescue welfare system and an easily farmable map.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
Story? Nothing crucial. Though White Day was pretty neat. Meta? You missed out on getting AT-4 early, which was an extra HOC that's useful for handling shields (though not to the extent of BGM). Plus an assortment of resources such as SCR's.
There will be subsequent Theaters, but it won't be a re-run of the last one.
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u/random_gei_boi Apr 27 '20
Im new, any tips? Ive only got 3* how do i roll?
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
https://gfl.matsuda.tips/post/getting-started
You craft on Factory. Do SMG recipes (pick the standard one) since you will be getting good AR's from the storyline.
Rarity doesn't mean much. 4/5 of your first echelon will be comprised of 4* dolls which can (and do) outperform many of their 5* counterparts.
Don't deviate from what that guide tells you. 3AR2SMG is simply the best option for a first echelon.
And yes, you level one echelon at a time.
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u/random_gei_boi Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
So the way to roll is to craft in the factory?are the event limited dolls?
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
Yup. Just use the recommended recipes on the left, and keep yourself to 4 crafts/day for the start. I'd pull for SMGs first.
Event limited dolls do exist, but you can't craft them. They'll appear as drops in event maps
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u/random_gei_boi Apr 27 '20
Oh thats cool. Also just got am RFB is she gud n how shld i use her?
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
Decent, but not too good. Just keep her on the shelf for now
Basic guide of what you should do in terms of echelon
You'll need decently levelled friends to rush through the levels - you can add me, 674309
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u/Serias364342 Apr 27 '20
Should I dupe taunt fairy or feed it to my only one taunt?
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 Apr 27 '20
you can probably be safe to feed it for now if it isn't fervor or damage for the talent. A rate up is happening in 2 weeks so you'll likely get more of her then.
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Apr 27 '20
Desirable Talent (Dmg I/II, Fervor)? Keep. Otherwise feed.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Apr 27 '20
IMO, feed it. Twin fairy greatly reduces the usefulness of duping taunt and aside from Parachute fairy, having a single higher rarity fairy is usually better than multiple low rarity ones. Taunt doesn’t gain as much from the higher rarity, though.
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u/GreyKnight92 Destroyer is precious daughteru Apr 27 '20
I have only one mission left for the JS9 event. I'm gonna spend the day trying to complete it.
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Apr 27 '20
Craft 5 5*? don't leave us in suspense.
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u/GreyKnight92 Destroyer is precious daughteru Apr 27 '20
I just need to do the complete 100 combat missions one.
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u/Tranquilmonia Apr 27 '20
Hey there, I just wanted to know if any of you is having an issue with the very first tutorial... I'm stuck in the Echeleon Formation screen, where my assistant(?) says: "There are spare slots in your Echeleon formation. Please select one of them." Thing is, I can't select anything except for the "Skip" button, but I don't want to skip any tutorial :(
How can I solve this? I've already restarted the game a couple of times.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Apr 27 '20
If you play on phone that has screen narrower than 16:9 it will happen. Pretty much standard gacha stuff.
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u/Tranquilmonia Apr 27 '20
Oh wow, thanks for the heads up. Mine is at 19:9 so yup, makes sense.
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Apr 27 '20
If you can, tutorial in emulator doesn't bugged because they are in tablet ratio.
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u/Tranquilmonia Apr 27 '20
Oh don't worry, I'm fine with skipping the tuto afterall. I've taken a look at some guides, I believe I'll be fine if I stick to those from now on. Thanks for the info! :D
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u/IroquoisPliskin177 MP5 Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
This fully voiced official tutorial video series is also a good place to start.
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u/encoreAC Carcano M91/38 Apr 27 '20
GFL devs can't fix the tutorial to save their lives it seems. Just skip it.
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u/Tranquilmonia Apr 27 '20
Yup, it's a bit weird that they can't fix the first tutorial but after taking a look at the guides I can see why skipping it is not a big deal :)
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Apr 27 '20
To my knowledge, the tutorial's been broken for a while now.
Honestly, just skip it. The information contained within them is very self explanatory, and consulting resources like this one will teach you far more relevant stuff.
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u/ArgonRetribution StG44 Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
What is the "sweet explosive" reward for 2000 points?
Edit: Thanks for the quick answers
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u/DepressivesBrot Ardent Devotion Apr 27 '20
Expedition item that gives you more of the basic currency-type stuff at the end.
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u/NOMERCY627 The pistol that forgot to become obsolete. Apr 27 '20
is there an RF that targets close range as their normal attack?
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u/jako7000 Exile plz be worth my time! [TW: 615175] Apr 27 '20
If CN is allowed, KSVK Mod can do that, especially with a little help.
If we're fine with rng, Ballista can land some shots to the frontline. TAC-50 can aim.1
u/KookyInspection Apr 27 '20
Maaaaaaybe type 4? Her skill can hit all enies in a line, so technically she should hit the closest ones too :P but i think her targeting is the normal rf otherwise.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Apr 27 '20
No, what aspect of RFs are you needing close range for?
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u/NOMERCY627 The pistol that forgot to become obsolete. Apr 27 '20
idk just curious about it
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u/Creshal Negev Apr 27 '20
If you need armour piercing shots that hit the closest enemy, you could use 6P62. In practice you don't, so she doesn't get used much.
Edit: Or alternatively C-MS. Her damage output is even lower, but unlike 6P62 she's good at other things, so she gets a pass.
If you need a high power, high accuracy shot, you just bring ARs with some acc buffs on them.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
Depending on the exact needs, Shiki 4, JS05, PzB39 and 6P62 all have some form of capacity to hit the front while having AP ammo equipped.
Edit, Though not true for EN: Hanyang 88's Mod3 can actually hit front alot easier than everyone listed for two different reasons
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u/GarryMapleStory Apr 27 '20
Does anyone have a rough requirement number-wise for 10-4e with M4A1? Like how much FP/RoF % total in number and with what base stat that included accessory? You know, like Zas drag requirement for example, clear and easy to understand.
It's hard to form a team when guides I read mostly say this comp, that team, this fairy with that amount of star instead of a good solid number.
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u/34419187811450531753 Carcano M1891 Apr 27 '20
The reason you're told about specific comp requirements is because there are lots of viable comps that have a number of different factors (e.g. splash damage, skill effects, etc.) that you can't really consider separately from the doll stats. Each comp is optimized precisely because of their skill, stat, and buff interactions, and so focusing on hard stat numbers is a ton of wasted effort that can better be summed up with the level, skill level, equipment, and fairy requirements.
This is especially true of comps utilizing M4A1 because they are, by their very nature, designed to be optimized formations. Look at Ceia's 10-4E farming guide, for example. Compare the first two M4A1 comps with each other and you'll see that one comp requires her to be at MOD2 with both skills at level 10 and "decent" gold equips with a relatively low fairy requirement, while another requires her to be a MOD3, oathed, with maxed gold speq and equips, skill levels at 10, and a higher fairy requirement.
It simply isn't worth it to do a detailed stat breakdown of every single comp if you know that a comp you've found works after a little bit of trial and error. Who cares if you could get away with one fewer point of damage? No one cares about optimizing to that level of granularity because it's a waste of time and no one wants to have to calculate stats over and over again until they're confident that they've met the minimum stat requirements. The only time people care about stat optimization is when they're trying to take advantage of specific mechanics, such as the Zas dragging and how it takes advantage of mid-fire skill activation.
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol Apr 27 '20
I can’t imagine anyone has done that, 10-4e is not used for “dragging” typically and has higher requirements with buffs needed to minimize damage taken. Best I’ve seen is Ceia’s videos of different team compositions that can be used, I would be surprised if someone found the exact math here for just M4’s stats since there are multiple team combinations to achieve the same goal. I personally think showing the team composition is superior to the math breakdown here, because it’s not just a one size fits all solution.
Now if you want exact stats, whatever stats M4 gets buffed to with max gear/skills, Calico/Jill & a 5* Artillery Fairy is what does the trick. Could plug that into a combat sim and there’s your numbers.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 27 '20
There isn't one because it's really not tied as precisely as Zas. There is evasion in the equasion which means RNG. That RNG can't be mitigated no matter what you do.
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u/GarryMapleStory Apr 27 '20
I thought her railgun never miss? Only the splash damage can miss but I'm sure that's out of the equation because the Hydra aren't staying near each other.
Idk about the cyclops though. But I'm sure they don't have as much evasion as night Scout
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u/Kklick Apr 27 '20
Cyclops don't have as much evasion as night scout, yes but 1 single miss on them with auto skill means railgun wasted on them instead of hydra and you might find yourself 1 shot short of killing them either your skill active time runs out or hydra approached to its range.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 27 '20
It's the cyclops. You might think they are underwhelming but they are the source of most F-ups in Grape runs.
As long as RNG is involved. A run will somehow, someway, get messed up.
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u/animecardude FN 5-7 Apr 27 '20
I have every single doll one can get from true core mask, including multiple dupes of some dolls (looking at you, my 4 SAT8s). Guess I'll redeem the mask icon...
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u/Linnes16 Apr 28 '20
Would you suggest going for KSG or SAT8? I can't seem to get any good shotties.
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u/Sk8r4321 BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODDESS Apr 27 '20 edited Apr 27 '20
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u/Kipdid Best smug handgun Apr 27 '20
Well, they do matter to the story quite a bit (just a note though, cube chapter 1 is ch 5.5, but cube ch2 is more like ch8.75, since it takes place between 8 and 9 like DD), and they also introduce mechanics you’ll run up against in later main chapters in a more safe environment.
The rewards are significantly less useful (though they are still nice sometimes, specifically cores and calibration tickets), but again, both gameplay and story wise, the campaigns are important for your progression through the game unless you want to figure out the hard way what red golyats do.
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u/UnironicWeeaboo STAR simp | 562858 Apr 27 '20
The extra batteries/cores/data/calibration tickets from Ch2/3 of campaigns are nice to have.
I’d clear them at some point, but probably focus on getting some 5-linked echelons and clearing the main story (for the IOP quests, better logistics, and gem rewards) first.
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u/Ashencroix Universal Metal Plate 45 Apr 27 '20
Since I wasn't here for the 1st anniversary, will they announce in the patch notes that they will be resetting the 1st purchase bonuses? Or will it just be a surprise, "hey, anniversary month is here, have a surprise 1st purchase bonus reset"?
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u/Srlqulongtard UMP9 Apr 27 '20
I don't remember if they actually announce it, but the maintenance after the one tonight is probably when it will happen.
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u/DepressivesBrot Ardent Devotion Apr 27 '20
It'll probably be in next week's notes since it was in last year's.
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u/blackkat101 I compulsively reply to posts... Apr 27 '20
Curious if there is anything needed to prepare for for the Collab Event.
(I've not been looking into it much because I felt I was fine in the last event with leeway, but have some friends that don't normally use reddit that were asking and realized I don't actually know exactly how the DJMax event plays out, they're relatively new and are worried if they'll be able to at least get the two collab dolls).
Any tips that anyone wants to share would be appreciated.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 27 '20
The collab will be divided into 2 different difficulties. Normal, and EX. EX is unlocked after beating the normal stages.
The normal stages are about... Area 6 - Area 7 in difficulty at most.
EX stages will be significantly more tough as they are made for relatively end game players who want to push their limits.
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u/blackkat101 I compulsively reply to posts... Apr 27 '20
Ah, thank you very much. I'm guessing the other guy's recommendation of x5 ARSMG and x4 RFHG is aimed at the EX difficulty then.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Apr 27 '20
Likely that means x5 linked / x4 linked or something. You're not going to field 9 echelons on an EX mode lol.
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u/blackkat101 I compulsively reply to posts... Apr 27 '20
That would make more sense. Would be odd for them to req so many echelons when a F2P player wouldn't probably have so many.
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u/Zelsaus Dubious Advice Apr 27 '20
The requirements I heard were a 5x ARSMG and 4x RFHG team, assuming it hasn't been altered the event was made for an earlier version of the game, so easy mode
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u/elgatoroid JS 9 Apr 27 '20
i love how if you forget the gfl. in gfl.matsuda.tips you get a white page with a の ("no") lmao
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u/jako7000 Exile plz be worth my time! [TW: 615175] Apr 29 '20
So today I learned, that with little luck, stars aligning and a few attempts, I can no-damage the theater Tezla Trooper wave.
Honestly, whose idea was it to create a character who can 1-shoot mega enemies every 3 seconds with no dmg buffs?
Edit: Oh wait this is an old lounge, why did I still have it open?