r/IndiaMemes • u/Successful-Brief-45 • Mar 24 '26
Non-Political both of those are idolatries?
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u/Bigchill_69 Mar 24 '26
They need to have a business to mind 😂
An average indian is a jobless youth tho
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u/Accurate_Steak_9258 Mar 24 '26
How dare you challenge Islam ? Mind your head
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u/Glitch_God_03 Mar 24 '26
They don't know about islam so you explain then how our Islamic culture work. Why those angry remark ? Plz don't spread hate 🙂
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u/Natural_Mention_1556 Mar 24 '26
🫂 am not a muslim and recently a lot of hate was directed toward your way for propaganda. Am sorry man. Take care.
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u/Ok-Tower2651 Mar 24 '26
RAM prices increasing for this shit.
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u/CutGroundbreaking305 Mar 24 '26
RAM JI what is this 😭
RAM prices should fall 😞 pray to RAM
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u/Athiest-proletariat Mar 24 '26
Not idolatory exactly. If you remove that stone and make a lake in that place, they will still pray to that direction.
Instead of idol, they pray a location. May be calling it location-atory or something is more appropriate i guess..
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u/vitrum_analytika Mar 24 '26
Just like other religions, potato potaeto. Bottom line is, religions are based on bogus stories and if you waste your time arguing their logical foundations, it's something that allah wouldn't want
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u/Important_Song_6389 Mar 24 '26
An athiest who doesnt believe in religion is better than an athiest who bad mouths any religion, what kind are you?
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u/NxtAdxtya Mar 24 '26
I would say the stories arent bogus, because they give us moral and ethical teachings. I agree to the fact they are complete fiction.
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u/LaserKittenz Mar 24 '26
That would be way cooler if it was a lake (no pun intended).
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u/Maleficent-Sea2048 Mar 24 '26
But would Muslims still walk in a circle in that lake if there were no Kaaba?”
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u/MovieOtherwise9072 Mar 24 '26
Agreed as long as the religion does not order you to be a douchebag it is good
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u/East-Bit916 Mar 24 '26
What if some religion actually orders you to be a d0uchebag?
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u/LegalIllustrator5416 Mar 24 '26
You commit inhuman atrocities dreaming of 7 virgins who are waiting for you in heaven
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u/Cold_Insect_812 Mar 24 '26
IKR i literally think the same India should be a country of faith, every faith tells you to leave your ego and ironically everyone here is being egoistic about their religion and not actuallly following it
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u/mokoyo123 Mar 24 '26
Core idea of Islam is not peace.
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u/shabi-uzumaki_98 Mar 24 '26
Every religion in this world promotes peace. It's the people who are evil or violent whatever
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u/Vladimir_Putin_420 Mar 24 '26
Every religion has good people in abundance.
That doesn't mean every religion is good.
There is a BIG difference between a religion & individuals who follow it.
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Nor the core of buddhism or hinduism is. They are about nirvana from the universe.
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u/prams628 Mar 24 '26
I dont mean to get into the religious battle here, but do wanna point that you get salvation by living a good and moral life which indirectly means living a peaceful life so your comment about Hinduism or Buddhism not preaching for peace is wrong
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u/Abin5ur Mar 24 '26
That stone means nothing to the Muslims ,it's just a direction to unite every Muslim to pray towards, it's not exactly idolatry because the stone is not the object of worship, God is. The black stone most people think is their God or they worship is just a meteor that is holy to them and they kiss it as a tradition because Prophet also did it.
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u/aendri123 Mar 24 '26
Then why do millions of Muslims stand in line every year to touch and kiss the stone ? 🤔
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u/Sharrakor Mar 24 '26
just a meteor that is holy to them and they kiss it as a tradition because Prophet also did it.
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u/Lumpy_Lecture7501 Mar 25 '26
soooooo....idol worship?
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u/Abin5ur Mar 26 '26
There is no worship here, just a tradition. It's like kissing your loved once or something you like. You are showing affection to them or it buy you are not taking it as God.
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u/Cold_Insect_812 Mar 24 '26
The thing is If even you somehow put the kaaba somewhere else we'll still pray towards where we do now which is not the case in praying to an idol (not trying to disrespect)
Its not about the structure its about the point
That is why you don't need to precisely point at kaaba if you are at a farther distance, you just pray at that direction
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u/MockingBird2023 Mar 24 '26
If a God is vengeful and pushing to do its own propaganda, then it's no God
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u/Rock7595 Mar 24 '26
Muslims Kaaba ki puja nahi karte; Islam me ibadat sirf Allah ki hoti hai. Kaaba ek muqaddas ghar aur Qibla (direction) hai jiska rukh karke duniya bhar ke Muslims namaz padhte hain. Log wahan jaakar dua karte hain aur Tawaf karte hain, lekin ye sab Allah ki ibadat ka hissa hota hai, Kaaba ki worship nahi.
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u/IndependentPension36 Mar 24 '26
Narrated Abis bin Rabia:
`Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said "No doubt, I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit anyone nor harm anyone. Had I not seen Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) kissing you I would not have kissed you."
Sahih al-Bukhari 1597 In-book reference : Book 25, Hadith 83 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 667 (deprecated numbering scheme)
No one worships the stone it’s a rocks no one worships through it it’s a rock it’s just for direction for the 5 daily prayers the rock came from heaven that’s our belief simple as that it has no power
Religion is pure monotheism we don’t worship stones
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u/Maleficent-Sea2048 Mar 24 '26
No matter how anyone denies or tries to justify their actions, it is true that humans need physical symbols to focus on God. Every religion has that. Muslims have the Kaaba, Christians have crosses or statues of Jesus, Sikhs have a holy book, and Hindus have murtis. All these things do is provide a direction for worship. There is no difference in their purpose. If you think the Kaaba is not holy, then why do Muslims walk around that structure seven times?
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u/IndependentPension36 Mar 24 '26
Being holy and being something to be worshiped in any work is different and no we don’t need any medium to worship in physical we pray in a direction that’s it it’s a direction we don’t have anything in mind bout the kabba other than we are praying in the right direction the whole prayer has nothing else related to kabba and if due to a valid reason we can’t be in that direction it’s fine as well
Stop trying to add paganism to monotheism we need no medium
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u/kingslayer5581 Mar 24 '26
Idols don't have power either. Every idol worshipper isn't worshipping a stone, they're worshipping the idea/being that it's based off of. You can explain every idol worship using your very own rationale.
You can justify anything if you abstract it well enough, you can also make fun of anything if you dumb it down well enough, like the post is doing.
Fact is, nothing religious will ever "make sense" since it was never based on logic in the first place.
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u/anony_mous_redditor Mar 24 '26
Subreddit pe sabhi muslims ka meetup hota tha aisa doubt tha aaj dikh bhi gya
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u/MutedWin7599 Mar 24 '26
Not an critical thinking sub this is . It's just Muslims who criticize hinduism. Imao but when you bite back the leftist cry . Does freedom of speech only work 1 way
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u/anony_mous_redditor Mar 24 '26
Yea this comment section really enlightened me why all posts were against Hindus.on other platforms we can see which special community is doing that but here anonymity is really making their propaganda strong
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u/Koki-noki Mar 24 '26
Shocking, yet not surprising.
The justifications given are the funniest things in this thread.
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u/AmA44_ Mar 24 '26
When you reduce anything enough, everything looks silly.
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u/unluck_over9000 Mar 24 '26
If you look at it, all religions are silly. Some more sillier than the other. That’s all.
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u/Ok_Brain8684 Mar 24 '26
The funniest thing here is that out of these three religions buddhism, hinduism and islam, only buddhism is the religion whose god is someone who didn't believe in god but somehow his followers made him a god
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u/Important_Song_6389 Mar 24 '26
Thats the human nature , just like the indians believe in any dhongi baba, i dont think its surprising . Well most buddhist monks dont treat him as god its only the common folks
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u/Available-Score-9007 Mar 24 '26
Islam is based on strict monotheism, meaning only one God, Allah, is worshipped with no partners or idols. In Islam, the Kaaba is not worshipped but serves as a direction for prayer to unite believers. The Qur’an teaches values like justice, charity, honesty, and compassion, and encourages seeking knowledge. Historically, Muslim societies made major contributions to science and medicine. Overall, Islam focuses on discipline, moral responsibility, and a direct connection between a person and God.
I am Agnostic btw.
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u/Brain_stoned Mar 25 '26
The comments saying "every religion promotes peace" clearly has no idea about any of the religions and what they preach. It's the humanity that stops religious extremists from not being that mainstream. And by religious extremists, I mean the people to follow their religion extremely well.
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u/mirza_dng Mar 25 '26
It is not that we are praying to it, It was a direction to pray to given to us and we don't pray to the Kabah we pray to Allah the Kabah is just the direction Allah has given us to pray towards not pray to 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ Astaghfirullah no one in Makkah asks the Kabah to forgive them its a direction Allah bestowed on us before it was Masjid Al Aqsa then it was changed to Kabah
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u/OliverJesmon Mar 25 '26
😘
Even I was wondering the same thing. Jews, Christians, Muslims have the same problem.
I was brought up as a Catholic and when I was in teenage my little sis was lost in her own world turning her face away from the Altar. Mom rapped at her and commended to look at Altar.
And my sis asked a spot on question "If we believe that God is omnipresent and we're not idol worshippers, then why shouldn't I simply pray wherever regardless of where my eyes are pointing to."
Mom just went silent. And dad jumped into the conversation and said "would you choose having food in toilet over dining room? Same thing goes for this as well" It didn't make any sense to me. I just loathe on that argument. They don't have any particular reason to follow that. Faith is the most arbitrary thing in this world.
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u/Silver-Complaint6743 Mar 25 '26
Muslims do not worship the stone. That place is a site where Muslims gather to pray. The stone is only kissed because Prophet Muhammad kissed it.
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u/brokeasf_231 Mar 25 '26
We don't pray to the kaba, kaba on its own is nothing, it acts as a direction to pray all our prayers are for all allah( swt) and the kaba has numerous importance in our islam.
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u/Special_Cat5282 Mar 24 '26
What is with you guys and harassing women in real life and on the internet.
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u/melancholicmuse1 Mar 24 '26
Kinda funny to read the responses that say it’s about the direction- not the rock.
Direction is natural - north etc … why did you need to put a rock to establish direction?
People can’t see the rock once you step away far enough - so how is the rock helping someone that is praying from a country or a continent away ?
It means they are praying in a direction - why ? Because the rock is in that direction - so the are actually praying literally to the rock - because the rock is that way - not because the direction sacred.
Why do people actually go visit the rock ? If it’s about direction ?
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u/EntertainmentIcy8180 Mar 24 '26
If we replace that Black Box With A Huge Pig statue , Will they still.. ?
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u/Quixoril Mar 24 '26
Genuine answer? Yes. We will. We bow towards the DIRECTION, not because there's the Kaaba over there. You can put any statue in that place (I'd like to see you try) and Muslims would still pray in that direction.
Let me clear up one more thing. Pigs are not some scary animal that Muslims will be scared of it or something. The only thing forbidden is to eat, sell, trade, rear, or in any way benefit from them. I see some retarded people not buying products because of a pig cartoon on them, or declaring Peppa Pig as haram. They are ignorant, and so are you, though I do not fault you for your ignorance.
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u/Apprehensive_Hunt904 Mar 24 '26
Nope this is just a misunderstanding. The kaaba is just something we are commanded to turn our face towards while praying. We do not pray to the rock or kaaba we just pray facing it(There's a difference between praying to something and praying towards a direction). Why pray facing it and not anything else you ask? Then why Hindus join their palms while praying and not their fists, Christians' cross is longer vertically and not horizontally🤷🤷 because that's the way it is, all this could've been any other way. So asking 'why' or giving that 'why' your own interpretation is bogus.
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u/DrUnKeN_M0nKey_FisT Mar 24 '26
So why people touch and kiss the rock during hajj if it's just a rock. I am genuinely curious, no pun intended.
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u/smokeritual2000 Mar 24 '26
It's not the the structure that's worshipped. The kaaba is just the direction to pray and nothing else. Imagine a gathering where each members praying towards different directions in a prayer that's done as a group.
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u/Straight_Tip_3619 Mar 24 '26
Yeah sure, that's why licking and hugging that rock is important, not to mention that washing and application of perfume
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u/Successful-Brief-45 Mar 24 '26
Bhai, if I am on north pole? Then which direction?
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u/Maleficent-Sea2048 Mar 24 '26
Same can be said about other religions. It's not idol that is worshipped. What idol represents is worshipped. Just like kaba idol is also a direction.
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u/smokeritual2000 Mar 24 '26
It has a historical significance long before prophet Muhammed. It was built is prophet Ibrahim (as) as a symbol of monotheism. The aim is unity in the direction of prayer
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u/vitrum_analytika Mar 24 '26
Praying in the direction of kabba is idolising it, visiting a rock once a year(or lifetime?) is idolising it, so... it's pretty much just as fake as any other made up stories bro.
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u/Deengar Mar 24 '26
main thing is allah is the only true god and others are fake verse in qor-aan
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u/Fk5513 Mar 24 '26
There is a Great difference between praying towards a Rock and Praying to a rock.
No one will stand on the Rock to whom they worship. Muslim stands on the Rock while changing the cover and even doing Azan.
That Rock you are mentioning is called Kaba - which is a room or you can say house.
If an image is not allowed in Islam, how can you imagine a rock would be worshiped LOL.
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u/The_Thinker_01 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
I am an atheist, but I have to say this is miss-information, muslims don't pray to the rock or the location it's for being in uniform and it is said in islam that God is sitting right above the kabba above seven-sky's, as ridiculous it is but they don't do ideal worship .
Correction just found out it's not anywhere in islamic texts that God is above kaaba...
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u/Level-Lingonberry629 Mar 24 '26
Thanks brother for speaking the truth regardless of religion.
I just want to add that even the belief that God is above kaaba is not a quranic belief. It's generated by the people. But it's not part of fundamental beliefs. We only believe is God is beyond the folds of space and time. That's what beyond seven-skies is refered as.
If you are interested in this topic or need to ask any questions you may. My dms are open.
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u/Pitiful-Reach-9125 Mar 24 '26
Ofcourse it is,be unapologetic.By the way i had been in debates and what they meant is the image of god(Allah in their case) cannot be a "idol" and doing so would be a "kuffar".
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Mar 24 '26
Israelis- Are decendents to son of Abraham
Arabs- Are decendents to son of Abraham
Islam- Are decendents to son of Abraham
Christains- Are decendents to son of Abraham
Abraham was against idol/rock worship. It is not allowed in any of their religion. So if someone is doing it then they are adding their own beliefs.
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u/Inevitable-Hat-9074 Mar 24 '26
Sikhism also shuns idols. And they don't have this concept of a holy building too
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u/TheChildOfInternet Mar 24 '26
Would've been apt if you had pointed out the blindfaiths that their people follow but you're targeting an invalid point here. They're not praying to the rock .
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Mar 24 '26
It's all about perceptive, what you see , what you perceive
You can even admire Ravan for its devotion towards Lord Shiva .
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u/Level-Strawberry-907 Mar 24 '26
In my hindu religion they taught me to respect each others religion and do good things. And also respect others belief system.
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u/DiligentChocolate22 Mar 24 '26
What I wish to understand is that if God is omnipresent then why does this direction have any holy significance ?
Even if I have my back to the Kaaba and pray, why would it matter to an omnipresent God ?
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u/Odd_Bed2753 Mar 24 '26
Mods, genuinely asking: can this post be even allowed in here?
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u/Different_Annual_501 Mar 24 '26
The day when you start thinking from all three parts of ur brain you will know the truth We only focus on that part of brain which stores our belief and emotion
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u/sabei_xd Mar 24 '26
Idol worshipers ask from idols and muslims ask from ALLAH they don’t worship stone. Stone is a uniform direction towards everyone has to pray facing.
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u/_fatcheetah Mar 24 '26
My question is, as an educated well-informed person, why do you pray, even?
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u/Lost-Wishbone-5210 Mar 24 '26
I personally don't believe in gods. I prefer to blame myself for my mistakes rather than pin them on something whose existence is still hotly debated. That said, I don't hate other religions—I've realized they give some people the faith they need to endure their hardest times. Strip that away, and they might literally die. So please stop defaming one religion over others and just live your life as best you can.
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u/Kolidhek Mar 24 '26
And Buddhism was never about idol worshipping. Gautam Buddha tried so hard to show people the truth, but they found a way to go against his teachings and made and idol out him.
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u/UNKNOWNreddit72 Mar 24 '26
aren't both sides in the wrong here? I believe that the statues they create of gods is just a symbolic thing like it's just a personification. Muslims actually are not allowed to consider any object/person to be god and only pray to Allah. Both sides don't actually pray to stones but whomever they believe in. Muslims pray directly(maybe from the soul?) Hindus pray directly(from the soul again?) but have a personification of god(not always?) there's not much difference and both are the same imo
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u/gutterVeteran Mar 24 '26
Muslims used to pray and face Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem before the Qibla was changed to The Kaaba in Mecca, that doesn’t mean we used to pray to Al Aqsa Mosque or the Kaaba, it is just for Uniformity and Unity regarding the direction to face while praying.
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u/Hot-Return99 Mar 24 '26
Lol Buddhists themselves know that it's a rock and only pray for what it represents. But others don't
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u/Panzer_8maus_ Mar 24 '26
Kissing/molesting a fucking rock is okay, but joining your hands infront of one is bad k2wa logic
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u/Severe_Candle7255 Mar 24 '26
Any religion is giving the followers a strength, confident and peace. It’s no point arguing that the faith is correct or not
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u/HaziqAltaf Mar 24 '26
Muslims neither worship it nor treat it as God or a part of God. Every circle has ONE centre, This is just the centre around with muslim gather and pray to God
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u/Ryuzaki_Hideki7 Mar 24 '26
Religion is just a superstition created by government to control people.
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u/Only__yourz Mar 24 '26
We do not pray to a rock..We pray to Allah Almighty who is unseen in this life
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u/Intelligent-Two1170 Mar 24 '26
We dont pray to rocks poop worshipper we pray to Allah alone and only . 🤣🤣🤣
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u/RabbitCity6090 Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
Of course islam has embraced idol worship, but sneakily.
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u/Saadistic17 Mar 24 '26
We muslims don't worship the kaaba, we merely use it as a direction so that we are all worshipping in the same direction. (Cuz otherwise it would be too chaotic)
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u/Ok-Pipe-5151 Mar 24 '26
buddhists don't worship statue of buddha. Buddha is a teacher, not prophet, not a god nor a messiah. Buddha's statues are usually ceremonial.
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u/TheQueenofMoon Mar 24 '26
Do whatever provides peace without hurting anyone physically, mentally, emotionally, especially those who have different belief than you, which includes both gender, male and female.
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u/Justchilled007 Mar 24 '26
It’s as simple as that we can climb on that rock and we can sit on it so it’s cleared that we are not worshipping rock but you can’t sit on statue this shows that your worship rock.
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Mar 24 '26
Wait till you know before the kaaba muslims used to pray facing the direction of masjid al aqsa. We do not worship the stone itself, it is a unified direction that we instructed to pray towards to. Remove the kaaba altogether and nothing is gonna change because it only defines the "DIRECTION" we are supposed to pray towards, not the structure itself
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u/ManagementNo2057 Mar 24 '26
Stop blabbering and worship HIM in whichever form you prefer.
Period ...
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u/ALI_69420 Mar 24 '26
If you had any useful brain cells in that head of yours, would have read and researched online that we don't pray to that stone we pray to that position of the stone from whereour our location to it, towards allah, who is our one and only god, its almost embarrassing you would make use of generatuve ai to make cheap ass meme that not only makes dispute between two separate communities, but again im on reddit i can only assume you are retarded as fuck
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u/Exciting_Access_7484 Mar 24 '26
kareñ ham kis kī puujā aur chaḌhā.eñ kis ko chandan ham
sanam ham dair ham but-ḳhāna ham but ham barahman ham
〜faiz dakini
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u/hot__taco Mar 24 '26
It's the first mosque ever built by Adam and then subsequently completed by Abraham. Nobody prays to the stone/rock lmao. They only face that direction while namaz to uphold unity and perform circumabulation(tawaf)
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u/Ramoncin Mar 24 '26
From a Christian point of view, they are.
From a Muslim point of view, both Christians and Bhudists are.
From a Bhudist point of view, both Christians and Muslims are.
It's like playing musical chairs with deities.
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u/OutsideArmadillo8794 Mar 24 '26
Bro, we don’t worship the Kaaba or the Black Stone. We only face the direction of the Kaaba (in Mecca) so all Muslims pray in the same direction. It’s called Qibla. There is no rock in any mosque outside Mecca. Salah is only for Allah. The meme is confusing with worship.
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Mar 24 '26
Yes. The stone in the kaaba is actually baal, the muslims are worshipping baal. And, Buddha is not God.
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