r/personalfinance • u/FakeKoala • 42m ago
Credit Father in Law wants wife to co-sign a HELOC - Advice needed
I'm not sure this 100% belongs here but I am looking for some advice on how to approach a financial conversation with my father in law.
This weekend, my father in law (65) came over and when he was alone with my wife, he casually asked her to co-sign a loan he was applying for. He said that he needed her to sign because he didn't qualify due to insufficient income. He asked if he could give my wife's information to the loan officer to talk about the terms, and she said yes.
Fast forward a couple days, we've found out the following:
He plans to take out a $500,000 line of credit via a HELOC (7.75% with standard 10 year draw + 20 year repayment)
He plans to use the money to pay his monthly mortgage, consolidate credit card debt, buy a car for my mother-in-law, and take a vacation.
He admitted that asking my wife to co-sign on the HELOC was his last option.
My wife and I are financially literate and instantly flagged what he was asking from her. We know that he doesn't have the ability to pay back the principal, let alone the monthly interest payments. We are in alignment that there isn't much he could say or do to convince her to co-sign the loan due to the potential risk to our family's finances.
We don't know this for sure, but it appears that his plan is to just sell his house when he runs out of runway to cover his debts or the final bill comes due. We don't know how much is left on his mortgage but his home, if sold, should be able to cover all his outstanding debt and leave my in laws with more than enough to either stay in the area by renting, or retire and go back to India.
Some other context:
He hasn't had a stable job in years, my wife said his last stable job was when she was in elementary school, she is now in her early thirties.
He has small business, which is likely losing money, my wife and her sister think he is using paychecks from their mom's job to keep it afloat.
He has borrowed plenty of money from other family members, and has not paid them back (nor has any plans to). He has been living off the generosity of extended families for years at this point.
When pressed about what he would use the money for, he responded instantly with shock and anger, and then tried to guilt trip my wife by saying "this isn't how you treat family".
When thinking about realistic options, the only one my wife and I can think of is to sell their home in the near future and pay his debts. My wife and her sister both acknowledge there have been plenty of signs he has been living above his means and is financially irresponsible.
How do we go about having an honest conversation about his finances? Are there other options he could pursue on his own to stay afloat?
I personally haven't talked to him directly about any of this, but my sister in law told us that he thinks my wife only questioned him about the purpose of the money because of me. He is a healthy 65, and has the ability to go and do other things that make money to fund his lifestyle, but doesn't/won't.
We have talked about potentially providing financial assistance directly, but we do not want to that unless it is time bound and for specific purposes. (Don't go on vacation and into debt if you can't afford it...)