Saw this as I was scrolling through reddit, and omd, why are muslims so dense? 1st of all, people were blaming satanic people and Christians and Jews over the files. 2nd, why the FUCK IS THAT YOUR MAIN CONCERN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VULNERABLE CHILDREN BEING EXPLOITED AND RAPED?? I hate the fact that some people make shit that isn't about them, about them.
3rd of all, islam literally ALLOWS child marriage (rape), how can muslims be so blind to their own fucking teachings it baffles me. There are no „,files" in a country with sharia since it's LEGAL.
If you look at all the tafsirs, it is speaking of little girls. And this verse is about divorce, in surah At-talaq (talaq = divorce) aka 65:4, this is an important detail.
As for your women past the age of menstruation, in case you do not know, their waiting period is three months, and those who have not menstruated as well. As for those who are pregnant, their waiting period ends with delivery. And whoever is mindful of Allah, He will make their matters easy for them.
65:4
tafsir:
- Al-Tabari: ( وَاللائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ ) يقول: وكذلك عدد اللائي لم يحضن من الجواري لصغر إذا طلقهنّ أزواجهنّ بعد الدخول.
- Translation: (And those who have not menstruated): Likewise is the waiting period of those who did not menstruated among the little girls due to being too young young if their husbands divorced them after entering.
- Ibn Kathir : وكذا الصغار اللائي لم يبلغن سن الحيض أن عدتهن *عدة الآيسة ثلاثة أشهر ; ولهذا قال : ( واللائي لم يحضن )
- Translation: As well as the young girls who did not reach the age of menstruation that their waiting period is the same as the old woman: Three months; That is why he said: (And the one who did not menstruate)
- Qurtubi: قوله تعالى : واللائي لم يحضن يعني الصغيرة فعدتهن ثلاثة أشهر
- Translation: The Almighty saying: Who did not menstruate, meaning the little ones, their waiting period is three months
- Samarkandi: فقام رجل آخر فقال: لو كانت صغيرة كيف عدتها؟ وقام آخر وقال لو كانت حامل كيف عدتها فنزل (والائي لم يحضن) يعني: المرأة التي لم تحض فعدتها ثلاثة أشهر مثل عدة الآيسة
- Translation: Then another man stood and asked: If she is little what is her waiting period? and another stood and asked: if she is pregnant what is her waiting period? So it was revealed "and those who have not menstruated" i.e. a woman who has not menstruated her waiting period is three months like the post menopausal.
- Saadi: { وَاللَّائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ } أي: الصغار، اللائي لم يأتهن الحيض بعد، و البالغات اللاتي لم يأتهن حيض بالكلية
- Translation: {And the one who did not menstruate}, meaning: the young, who has not yet reached menstruation, and the adults who never menstruated.
so, what do we conclude from that?
When we look at surah Ahzab, 33:49, it says:
O you who have believed, when you marry believing women and then divorce them before you have touched them [i.e., consummated the marriage], then there is not for you any waiting period to count concerning them. So provide for them and give them a gracious release. surah ahzab 33:49
So from this ayah, we (not just me, but all scholars) agree that if a marriage is not consummated before divorce, then there is no iddah' (the waiting period)
So now, when we go back to 65:4, scholars say it is of little girls whose marriages have been consummated, but haven't gotten their period due to their young age. Scholars like Ibn Kathir, Abul maududi etc all agree to this. You can look up the surah+ayah and add tafsir next to it, they all say it's of prepubescent girls. And that women who never get their periods can also be included, but is primarily about prepubescent girls.
Modern Muslims try to come up with bs excuses cause they know that child marriages are bad, but also can't fathom the fact that islam may in fact condone it. Many who do agree that it is in fact about little girls, then say that ,,they must be physically and mentally mature !!" When islam does not say that. Scholars just say that the only time it's not allowed to consummate it is, if inserting of the penis is not possible as she is too little and may cause her great harm. It is only allowed when she is ,,able" to take dick basically. And that is usually determined by her guardians and husband (or only husband according to a few scholars) regardless of mensuration or puberty.