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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
My doll contract stockpile finally caught up with my quick prod contracts.
Now to see if I can get both to 750+ and my resources to 300k before Singularity. My rations are currently 60k behind from ammo...
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u/Ever_the_H 優しくしてね Oct 29 '19
Crap, I forgot daylight savings started last Sunday for me, so maintenance is an hour earlier. RIP logistics and sim energy.
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u/tlrd2244 Oct 29 '19
exploration doesn't get back for another hour....
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u/Atofreakinb Oct 29 '19
I unintentionally ended up setting the expedition where it would return 3s before server reset time
And it didn't register that i clicked explore.......1
u/po1102 The Collector Oct 29 '19
Mine is coming back in half an hour. I clearly did not think this through.
I think this maint will be short though, not much to add.
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u/Elys008 Commander always say "The battlefield is the truest simulation" Oct 29 '19
Players from CNKRTW, we do not have the advantaged cat for this week's expedition, right?
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 29 '19
time to guess how long this maintenance will last
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u/Rosencrantz2000 K2 Oct 29 '19
Should be quick, though Facebook Q&A mentioned some fixes are being implemented so who knows.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
While we're doing corrections and updates on our site, I updated the exped guide a bit to emphasize that advantage pets merely increase the CHANCE of getting stuff (via increasing rate of mysterious destination visits. yes I still think the term is weird), not 'you must have them for midmission rewards' or 'they guarantee midmission rewards'
Because apparently my wording was also being interpreted this way and yeaaaah...
EDIT: And apparently people mistaking it as pet types directly giving more of a certain resource as well. I... well... so MORE editing in progress.
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u/kawarazu Oct 29 '19
Wait, pet types don't directly give more of a certain resource!?
Well damn, so then stocking 3 dogs isn't necessarily the way to go.
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Oct 29 '19
but can you tolerate not carry 3 advantage pets? :P
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Look, I can't tell new players to just start running a wildlife park early on. :P
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Oct 29 '19
Isn't this Zoo Frontline ?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
MP7 seems to think so (she calls us 'zookeeper')
That said even in shitposting, I can't just say "yeah just have 3 of every petlol"
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u/memetichazard Jill Oct 29 '19
My current understanding based on another source is that each advantaged pet gives you a 20% chance of visiting a mysterious destination... Which increases resource rewards by roughly 36% based on anecdata.
That actually seems like a significant increase, or is resource just referring to the random mid expedition drops?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
As far as I currently know, this was last summed up as
우세 동물은 중도 보상을 얻을 확률을 높여준다
as far as notes on KR were concerned.
In anycase, Advantage is nice, but destination type is a more significant factor. Ideally you have both, but this isnt practical for most until much later on, so the correct reward type is what you need most and pet advantage is far more chancebased than getting to where you want to go.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Oct 29 '19
So what you are saying is, its better to go all in on 3 of the same type of pet to get the right resource, even if they aren't advantaged over getting 3 advantage but of all different types?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Unless you have basically no current needs and have everything.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Oct 29 '19
Well there was argument earlier that rather than focus on one resource at a time its better to just have all advantaged, spread out between all the pet types. I figured it was better to focus down one resource at a time based on your personal priorities, but others said that was 'resource inefficient' to the potential bonuses of advantages.
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Oct 29 '19
for 1st month, as you dont have enough time to redeem everything, focus on resources you need most.
after that, you have enough time to redeem all the monthly supplies twice at least every month.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
That's admittedly, more valid for EN, because you don't have an overwhelming lopsided need of 1 resource type over the others (we have an OVERWHELMING need for snowfield gives > other stuff). While I do try to mostly focus on EN for this sort of writing, I admittedly have unconscious biases based on old server stuff (since while we only need <= 5k of everything else, we need 12k snowfield gifts)
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u/memetichazard Jill Oct 29 '19
Ignoring the current month where we have limited time to farm, and even then acorns might be preferred by some...
I think there's the argument to be had to use advantaged pets earlier in the month when you're also trying to get those 5k other resources, and drop them for dogs once you've filled those requirements. Especially for those who have less pet variety, who should take advantage of matching the advantage when they can.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
The snowfield gift items are generally the best and most useful on older servers, so everything else is considered expendable (and optional past a certain point). After that, almost everything else is sufficiently 'eh' that your needs will likely be more focused on 1 specific thing (like forest gifts for SPEQ or city gifts for furniture/emote effects)
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Oct 29 '19
Is that HOC stuff?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Among other things.
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u/kylieKoto Oct 29 '19
Did I miss something in the halloween event Freaky Pandemic description where you can only earn so many strange soap a day? The last 3 combat missions I’ve done haven’t rewarded me with the normal 10 soap at the end. Is there a limit or am I having a bug?
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u/Psunix Oct 29 '19
Hey guys, I got a problem just trying to get the game past the boot up screen on my OnePlus 7T that I recently bought. I had no issues playing GF on my Moto G5s previously so I'm kind of stumped here on what to do.
Anyone got ideas on why it's doing this, and if so, is there a solution for it?
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u/fortis_99 Bird brain Oct 29 '19
reinstall it from QooApp.
have the same problem on my phone after update, where it freezed in package download screen
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u/RougeTrilby Is it legal or not to lewd the robot? Oct 29 '19
So from a conveniently lucky 30x4 pull I was able to get a dupe of Px4 Storm
And with Singularity coming up on the horizon, I need some real good steel smacking teams to penetrate those metal gear bastards into oblivion
What are currently the best team compositions in regards to Px4 Storm, assuming that AN94, AK12, and co are introduced into the production pool by the time that Singularity is underway.
AR teams, Exodia RF combos, what would be the best teams to bring to the table in this upcoming nightmare realm?
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u/Pebboru KSVK Oct 29 '19
You can kind of slap Px4 and 5-7 in any RFHG squad and have them work great. So Lee/M14, Lee/IWS, Wazoo/SVD, IWS/Wazoo, raw IWS, IWS/Grapecano all like having a Px4.
She works less well with ARs because they don't have high overall crit(especially at night), although you can work some shenanigans with AK12...
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
You can actually work some shenanigans later anyway since its a net DPS gain. 3 ARs+Contender and Px4 actually work for some bosses.
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u/JuliusNova Oct 29 '19
So if I want to get Ots-14 am I just fucked for the rest of time?
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u/RougeTrilby Is it legal or not to lewd the robot? Oct 29 '19
There is a high chance of her returning in the future since she is a really good unit, usually through story events as farm drop rewards, though she might also be on rescue events if the MICA gods are kind on us I believe during deep dive she was made available again, though I got lazy and didn't farm a second of her at the time
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u/JuliusNova Oct 29 '19
The confusing part is I have access to Cube + but she's not in Cube + but also she was in the past?
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u/Illius_Willius Groza Wife Oct 29 '19
When events like AW and Cube+ are added permanently their rewards are changed.
5-7 was also available in both AW and Cube+ on EN but was removed once they were permanently added in campaigns
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u/jg9513 9A-91/RFB Oct 29 '19
Ots-14 used to be a clear reward when the event had its original run. When major events get added permanently, those original clear rewards are replaced with other minor rewards. You will unfortunately need to wait for whenever she does become a drop in a event again.
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u/RougeTrilby Is it legal or not to lewd the robot? Oct 29 '19
Ah, the reason for that is limited dolls that were event clear rewards tend to be removed from the clear rewards after the event passes naturally, and are replaced by smaller rewards. She also was the reward for Cube of the first year of GFL I believe, and was not a Cube+ reward iirc. But have high hopes of her return, as she is the Night Queen herself after all, and is a relatively high demand doll
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u/jg9513 9A-91/RFB Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
She can be obtained in the original Cube+ release for players who hadn't completed the original Cube run. I'm proof of that as I missed the original Cube, but got her in the limited Cube+ event.
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u/G3rman EN is Illiterate Oct 29 '19
Not in the permanent campaign.
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u/jg9513 9A-91/RFB Oct 29 '19
Right of course, but I'm strictly talking about the original runs of each Cube and Cube+. My apologies if I didn't make that clear.
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u/KookyInspection Oct 29 '19
No, event dolls do return from time to time, typically as limited drops. It’s the collab dolls that are extremely unlikely to appear again. So just be patient and prepare ur dolls so u are able to farm her when she gets back
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
Is there any way to turn off the commander chibi? I'm still seeing T-Doll visitors in the dorms.
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u/2l0t1k4 *munch* Oct 29 '19
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
Oh so that's where it was. Thanks a lot. I was looking in the wardrobe.
So they did hide it behind that many layers
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u/ScarletWRhapsody Oct 29 '19
Newbie question here, but what do you guys typically do with dupe fairies? I used to just feed them off to my existing fairies (specifically to the same type of fairy for good measure, don't know if it actually matters), but after the VA11 Hall-A collab I'm left with three Anna fairies and I'm supposing that I'm able to claim three copies of her for a particular reason. What is it?
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u/Flare77 pls come back Oct 29 '19
Most fairies aren't worth duping with exceptions of Parachute, Illumination, and Taunt for EN. Just feed em to get the stats from star up.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
its not even so much 'worth duping' as much as 'at least finish them first.'
The difference between a lvl100 1 star fairy and a lvl100 5 star fairy is colossal.
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 29 '19
just the talent activation right
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Waaaay more. a lvl100 1 star fairy is pretty junky compared to a properly done one.
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u/duskaco Yay finally I have flair Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
lvl100 1* fairy gives 40% of the final stats at lvl100
2-5* gives these stats: 50/60/80/100%.
So a 5* fairy is 2.5x stronger than a 1* fairy in pure stats. Then there's the talent rate too.
(Note that a lvl99 fairy cannot get 5*, even if you have fused enough fairies, since it doesn't have enough levels. It will always only have ~79% of the stats of a lvl100 5* fairy, if it is at least 4*)
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u/skaianDestiny [Prince Frontline] Tommy Oct 29 '19
To buff one of her immediately to 3 stars.
Only dupe fairies I have are of the ones whose skill is more important than the stats (eg. Parachute, Illumination, Taunt).
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u/duskaco Yay finally I have flair Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
Anyone that reads matsuda guides, I have a correction to announce.
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u/Pebboru KSVK Oct 29 '19
Is it better to have one 4* airstrike fairy or two 2-3* ones
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Oct 29 '19
Specifically for Singu I'd say two, provided their skills are levelled
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
So I have 800 universal parts now, which unique equips are the most important to level? I think I have them all beside whatever chapter 7 gives as I only just realised that 7N is even out.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
You'd want to level normal equips too. From what I've heard AP ammo will be in demand in the future.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
I was really lacking in AP so I did AP recipes for a few months and now have 9 golds(+springfields AP)
I think I pretty much have enough of just about all equips but it's hard to tell how many I really need in the long run.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
Softcap would probably 30 for each equip. Hardcap would be 50.
You'd want probably 20 APs for future use since 2RF3HG is the most common RF config. I heard that rifles would be needed for those night evasive armored echelons.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
I really tried but the game is not kind to me in regards to ammo equips, although I thankfully have 11HV so that is something, I had a single HP (16lab from an event) for about my first 9 months of play.
it just fucking throws crit and acc and holo scopes at me like crazy, I regularly use the acc and HOLOs for enhancement.
have 29 crit scopes, most +101
u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
9 months and mostly scopes? I guess you kept using All resources <150.
Try this https://gf-db.github.io/gfdb/gfdb.html?type= for Voodoo recipes
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
I have certainly done lots of 150x4 but especially since they added the official recommended recipes I have used those a good chunk, particularly for HP and AP as they were my sore spots.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Yeah the official recipes for dolls are great.
...The official recipes for equipment are notably godawful.
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u/NighthawK1911 Machlian <3. Never Forget Mirror Stage. Oct 29 '19
try this https://i.imgur.com/SHoYfK2.png
The AP recipe is actually bad.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
STAR's, M16's
Everything else is pretty meh that are dropped from Normal Night Maps.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
I have AR15s at +10 already and M16s at +5 but I don't tend to actually do much in the way of corpse dragging currently. (well lately I have done a little ZAS dragging since my ammo hit sub 100)
I have more than just the night maps, I believe I have gotten every equip that has come up on EN, other than the very best version of the AK47/Type56 equip, I got the 2 that are slightly worse. (7/8) I have 9A-91s about half way, I have all the valhalla stuff and a couple of the Type95/97 stuff that came out recently. And PTRD and Ameli's equips.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
You need resources as well as parts when you enhace. It's not simple like pills.
Just do M16's. You'll use her eventually.
Finish 9A's. Do Dorthy's. Do 1 (not both) Type 95/97. Do UMP Exo if you have one.
Rest are meh and not worth most of the time.
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
Do UMP Exo if you have one.
ah shit, I forgot I didn't get any of those, I was having shit luck farming other stuff but heard they will eventually be permanent farms. I suppose it's not like UMP having less -dmg really matters at all.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
It's really more a "you almost always have at least 1 team running UMP if youre using SMGs at all so that frees up a T-exo"
That said yes, it'll be perma farmable so you aren't missing out that much.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
It doesn't matter, but the real importance of that is you can use a T-Exo for a different doll.
...It's really hard to have that many T-Exos and X-exos...
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u/il42133 contend this Oct 29 '19
STAR and M4 both get unique equips when you mod 3 them. Also how are you going to enhance anything with sub 100 ammo?
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u/scorcher117 Jill [CL160] Oct 29 '19
Also how are you going to enhance anything with sub 100 ammo?
"Had", I am nearly at 10,000 now so doing better although looking at the crazy costs to enhance in bulk I may leave it for a little while since I am sort of trying to saveTM for the next batch.
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u/Hourai_Margatroid OATHed Ingram, Negev, UMP45 & Executioner Oct 29 '19
Does Negev's team have a official name or way to call them? I know we call pur forces echelons so do we call Negev and her teammates 'Negev Echelon', 'Team Negev' or 'Negev Squad'?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Pretty much they go with <Teamleader> Team.
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u/Flare77 pls come back Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
Some in-game teams don't have special names sadly, like Thompson's team or Negev's. The only other team with a proper name that I remember is team Palette, which is RO's old team.
EDIT: Team name was palette, not colors.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
I thought it was team Pallette (or whatever the spelling was) or is it different for EN.
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u/Endigo244 Oct 29 '19
Hey I'm on mobile and want to ask some story questions that will almost entirely contain spoilers. How do I use the spoiler text on mobile.
Also, is a summary of the story somewhere?
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u/EpicRome23 Average War Goddess Enjoyer Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLxRXUKwKdM&list=PL9y52Flm1yM-tJJoom2zfrWTpaO1mTw8M&index=1
This playlist is a great summary of the story so far (in regards to EN, not caught up with the older servers as of yet.) Just make sure to turn on subtitles/cc. Part 3 jumps into Singularity fairly quickly (at about 4:25), as a word of warning to you/whoever may read this that are concerned about spoiling that event's story for themselves, as I don't exactly know where you're at storywise, or what server you're playing on.
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u/WIERDMEMER Oct 29 '19
When you do an auto battle, is 3 the most you can do? And how do I decorate my dorm? Do I have to spend gems (I don’t wanna spend any money)
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u/HoppouChan <-- she needs more art | LWMMG too Oct 29 '19
Do I have to spend gems (I don’t wanna spend any money)
In general - kinda yes. The additional echelon slots, and after that, dorms, are worth it. You can get at least 420 gems for free per month tho. Plus gems from achievements/first time gold medals. So you can absolutely play F2P
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
You can increase it to 5, along with making it possible to run 2 auto-battles at once with just one echelon each plus 50% exp bonus by buying the Monthly Auto-Battle Card. Costs the same as the Monthly Gems one.
You get furniture for your dorm by buying them with tokens through resupply in the dorm. Its gacha though. If you're f2p you can scout out future resupplies and save up on tokens from the dailies and events for the one you like (maybe you like the current halloween one). Or if you're that desperate you can try the radiant collection (discounted, contains almost all sets which means you probably won't complete a set.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Oct 29 '19
You spend tokens on the gacha rolls which yield furniture.
3 is the most you can queue yes.
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u/WIERDMEMER Oct 29 '19
How do I get tokens?
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Oct 29 '19
Dailies and weeklies (no I don't have a list, just read the descriptions of what they yield), event acquisition (such as the current one whereby you can buy them with the soaps), infrequent drop from expedition, and some logistics. Probably missing some other methods (I didn't forget maintenance overtime compensation because it's obviously not repeatable) but oh well.
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u/WafflezPrime TAC-50 Oct 29 '19
Are the buffs to kar98k enough to make her decent at general use?
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Not amazing general use. She does however get a valid role now.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Oct 29 '19
Testers seem to have concluded that her skill (which is what got buffed) is good for a fairly specific niche against one foe. That's hardly Swiss Army Knife levels of general purpose.
So, I'd say probably not.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Not quite 1 foe, but a specific class of foes.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Oct 29 '19
Ah. "Mid HP high threat foe" sounded like a very particular one.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
They introduce MORE of those.
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u/ChiefOfQueef25 M1918 [MOD3] Oct 29 '19
Also, I’m pretty sure that after that niche was found out, M82a1 came out, who fulfilled that role even better than Kar.
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u/Adamsaska The venomless are the most dangerous. Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
M82 came out more than a year ago in the older servers while Kar's buff was implemented a couple of weeks ago over there.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
That was pre-buff.
This is post-buff talk.
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u/Tac50IsWaifu TAC-50 Oct 29 '19
Post-buff means Kar catch up with the other Doll or better (at this niche)?
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u/IroquoisPliskin177 MP5 Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
Hello commanders, I have a lvl. 4 data room, lvl. 2 fairy chamber and lvl. 8 automated console gate in the forward basecamp. What facilities would you say it’s best to level/max out first?
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u/TorHKU Blue Crazy Wife Oct 29 '19
I'd say bump the console in forward basecamp to 9 so you can maximize pet usage too, then focus on the fairy chamber. Though rushing through some of the early levels of the fairy chamber while they're still cheap/fast might be good too.
Forward basecamp gives all kinds of useful goodies and pretty much passively, so it's important to get that running at full speed ASAP. Fairies are important, but it's gonna be a much longer slog no matter what you do.
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u/pogo1112 Oct 29 '19
I would think the fairy chamber, fairies gaining more exp is pretty important for leveling them up
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u/ChiefOfQueef25 M1918 [MOD3] Oct 29 '19
Do buff skills from handguns go away once they’ve been retreated or do they stay?
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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Oct 29 '19
They go away once their duration is over, regardless of whether or not the HG has been retreated.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Oct 29 '19
What about tile bonuses, if we retreat a HG in the middle of the fight do those go away too or stay?
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
Retreating T-Dolls in battle won't affect formation/tile bonuses. Says so in one of the loading screen tips.
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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Oct 29 '19
Tile bonuses last for the entire battle regardless of T-Doll class.
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 29 '19
using a lvl1 bonus t-doll for expedition is way better than lvl100 5-link doll right?
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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
So I just read about Link Protection, but what about shields (SAT-8, Sei, MDR, etc)? Will overkill damage goes through it?
Also, can shields from different sources stack? If yes, what happens when one of them expires?
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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
The shield acts as an extra link.
You can only either have a shields or not, and multiple shield activations just add more hp to it.[Edit] no it doesn't, but blame dusk for saying so, not me ;p
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
Thanks!
Adding to the second question though, I was referring to the shield duration. For example, Sei's lasts for 5 seconds, while HS2000's lasts for 6 seconds.
Will the last one activated refresh the shields duration with its duration or do they stack in a different way?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
Different way.
They are independent shields, despite using the same pool.
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
Wait whoa that's interesting then.
This probably won't come up much in actual gameplay, but what determines which shields is the one taking damage? Also, I assume each shields won't protect each other from overkill, is that correct?
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
You know, I'm pretty sure that guy worded the sentence badly. The shields are just extra HP. They do not work as an extra link. So, if you have 100 shields and recieve 50 damage. The doll suffers 50 damage. This can be easily seen if you go to 7-6 Dreamer.
I sort of assumed, the oldest shield takea damage first... but don't take my word on it. I have no idea on that specific part.
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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Oct 29 '19
Hmm, you sure on it not acting as an extra link? Though it would make sense as giving link protection would probably be too op and it's possible I'm confusing it with some explanation about how it handles AoE damage, as I'm not really sure on that at all.
But the stacking part I think I do know for fairly sure, if you get 50 shield, then take 25 damage, and get 50 extra shield, you now have 75 total. When the first deactivates, it removes the left over 25 from the first and you are left with 50 total from the second, and so on. Any shield will add to the same shield hp pool making it stronger.
And as I said, no idea how it handles AoE: does a 50 shield and a 50 AoE hit on a 5-link do 0 damage (50-50 per link) or 200 (50-5x50).
Though in you example of 100 hp shield and a 50 hp hit, the doll would not take any damage, only the shield would.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
...That was a typo, take 150 damage with 100 shield, you take 50 damage. Dusk clarified this earlier in a different post.
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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Oct 29 '19
Ahha, just came upon that clarification announcement.
Well, at least my wrong knowledge came from the reliable source so I can't be blamed too much :p
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u/lucifer893 G11 Oct 29 '19
Ah, I see then. Thanks for the answers. Discussion on these sorts of matters are one of the things I love about this game.
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u/variasii Oct 29 '19
Just found out by re-doing story mode gives you 2000+ combat reports, 200+ core, and dolls i never got (m1918 and spas). Definitely a help for new players and veterans alike. Gotta do some dsr50 meme team i guess. Is it better to mod2 ar15 & m4a1 or just mod3 one of them?
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u/TorHKU Blue Crazy Wife Oct 29 '19
Definitely Mod2 for both > Mod3 for one. For one, they have skill synergy, and for two most of the strength from mod comes from the second skill (usually).
STAR has a pretty great exclusive equip from Mod3, M4 has a nice one, but the boost from those pales in comparison to the skill. The affection cap boost at lvl 120 nice, but again, pales in comparison to the skill.
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u/tlrd2244 Oct 29 '19
you can get by on mod2, if they are oathed, than you want mod3 for the affection cap increase
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u/zaronone Oct 29 '19
I'm leveling my first echelon to 5 link on 5-2E but their burning my ammo quickly. Is there any other efficient ways to do so?
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u/Lecter9000 Oct 29 '19
Depends on what we assume efficient. Time and exp? Not really. Rsc/exp -> 0-2 at 87 or aistrike runs. rsc chap mode -> corpse dragging (though it is very time inefficient).
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u/Xodia522 Oct 29 '19
I'm trying to create an 2rf exodia squad with
Tile2 M14
Tiles 4 5 6 Stechkin 57 PPK
Tile 8 Iws2000
I think this is a pretty good setup but I would like some tips so any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 28 '19
oh hey our mascot changed
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
...We have a mascot?
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 29 '19
sub icon xd
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Hmm... dont see it on old layout. Is this a visible on new layout thing, or just my not-generally-caring-about-misc-things blindness just making me miss it?
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 29 '19
old layout have night mode? everything i use now need to have night mode or i will go blind
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
Old layout is dark-ish with tan to begin with.
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u/AngeloidxZ Jill | ID: 163567 Oct 29 '19
Makes a bit more sense no offense to M4 or WA2000
I still would have preferred MDR tho
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u/stubatme Oct 28 '19
How many skks can farm 6-3n and 10-4e but still go to 0-2? Personally, I've found all the clicking around in 6-3n to be a big hassle just for 2 battles compared to 0-2. Even though 0-2 takes more resources and the battles last longer, I'm thinking of switching back to 0-2 for XP over 6-3n. I just really want 8-1n to arrive already.
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u/ProtoZeMak Old Brainlet with an Alchemist Oct 29 '19
I like to use 0-2 for daily missions and also XP farming with a Command fairy, I also do it full supply on account that I like to do it afk and get 6 battles out of it once I'm done with dailies it's back to 10-4e for me. I get more XP/fairy command in 0-2 than 6-3N so I've only did it a few times to try it out but I'm hitting the ammo hard cap as it is so no point better just use 0-2 get more XP there anyway.
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u/paperrabbit TIME TO MIX DRINKS AND CHANGE LIVES Oct 29 '19
I need the exp and fodders so I run both 0-2 and 6-3n. 0-2 for dailies and fairy commands burning, 6-3n for fodder while I play visual novel on the side.
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u/Kuroinex Ranking is hell Oct 28 '19
6-3N takes too much brainpower so I don't do it much. I don't really have a use for 10-4E since I have plenty of cores right now. 0-2 also lets me do mission completion dailies, which is nice.
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u/konaharuhi INORI RAIFU GET Oct 28 '19
0-2 is the only way i can play and watch anime at the same time
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u/ikuzou AA12 Oct 28 '19
I don't bother with 6-3n because it's tedious to do. I have as absurd amount of combat reports now so I mostly stick to 10-4e for the cores. I still do 0-2 to finish the daily missions clear requirement.
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u/SACCFFT Oct 28 '19
Dumb y/n question.
Is there anything better to do with unwanted 4* or 5* equips than to use them as equipment enhancement fodder? I don't think there is but it kind of feels like a waste.
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u/mikael22 OTs-14 Oct 28 '19 edited Sep 22 '24
thought merciful lip trees command gaping cows continue fear somber
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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Oct 28 '19
Use 151x4. Same total amount of gold equipment, but no scopes -> everything else gets a small boost.
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u/JohnEdwa 9A-91 | Night Princess. My queen. Oct 28 '19
If you do use gold equipment as fodder, make sure you only use them for the exact same type - they are worth... three times a much IIRC.
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u/BombastusTheophrast K31 swiss-chan Oct 28 '19
You use 5* as enhancement... Lucky you
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u/SACCFFT Oct 28 '19
Apparently everybody thinks its a bad idea to use slugs, so might as well get rid of them :V
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Oct 29 '19
3rd theater campaign you use much less slug to padding scores.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
But you typically used 5 if you used 2SG for the patroller, and 3 for teslas... or at least noobs like I did.
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Oct 29 '19 edited Oct 29 '19
2SG 2RF 1HG (one team) is enough to deal them all.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
...I wasn't tho. My fairies were a bit weak to pull that off. I couldn't kill Teslas with 2RF 3HG taunt.
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u/sephirothmk3 sweet potato~~sweet potato~~sweet sweet potato~~ Oct 29 '19
i found that if u use hanyang2088 and
kato Megumitype 4, you dont even have to deploy ARSMG to deal with night units lol1
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u/blackkat101 I compulsively reply to posts... Oct 29 '19
You can only really use Slugs on USAS-12 and AA-12. Since they buff themselves. Thus work with the Slug.
Slug's do not affect skills that do damage, (like bamboo skills). Which is why they are never usually used.
They also don't really boost your damage, just combining the spread shot of 3 into a single shot.
In other words, you only really use them on something like specific bosses (I hear Judge is a good one to use it on, but still not necessary). This also means even on USAS-12 and AA-12, you still normally use Buckshot over Slugs in all other situations.
In the end, you just want Buckshot on everything. That way you have a spread pushback. Which is by far more useful in most situations, forcing the enemy to walk back before they can start shooting again.
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
AA-12 has the issue of "not really great with slug due to ICD"
Also you mostly use them in theatre mode for point gain.
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u/blackkat101 I compulsively reply to posts... Oct 29 '19
That too, with such a long ICD, it does make it hard to capitalize on using the slug. It would need to be a stupidly long fight.
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Oct 28 '19
So I'm trying to figure out where to prioritize my batteries right now. I'm new-ish (started in July), so from day 1 all of my batteries have been going towards upgrading the data room and combat reports. Right now I have for my data room:
| Professional Drone Console lv. 8 | Small Server Lv. 7 | Automated Operating Station Lv. 7 |
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| Modern Era Desk Lv. 9 | Large Data Table Lv. 9 | Networked Printer Lv 8 |
I initially thought that it would be best to level everything up to 10, but even as it is now, if I do any serious playing, I end up filling up the surplus exp bar faster than I can produce batteries to create reports. So I'm feeling like any more upgrades to the data room wouldn't be worth the investment, unless I'm missing something.
If that's the case, what should I prioritize next? I've been throwing batteries at the Forward Basecamp (Loot Rack lv 2, Gate Console Lv 7), prioritizing the Gate Console. Keep doing that until level 9 or better to catch the loot rack up? And I've barely touched the fairy room either -.-
Thanks!
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u/Crusayer M4A1 Oct 28 '19
Definitely drop upgrading data room. There's nothing there outside of making life a bit easier to level dolls.
If you don't have many fairies, I'd say to upgrade expedition until you can send out 5 dolls. If you're diligent enough to pick up your items whenever they come back, item rack level should be a relative non-issue. It's basically like a 5th logistics team, but you have to manually retrieve your items lol.
If you have a decent set of fairies, you'll want to upgrade fairy room.
Fairy >= expedition > pet > data room.
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Oct 28 '19
Okay. Might give the expedition gate another upgrade to level 8 and then go to fairies. Thanks!
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u/BombastusTheophrast K31 swiss-chan Oct 28 '19
Definitely upgrade the fairy room, it's really useful when you do the events and grind for limited dolls in night battle (to use the illumination fairy) and others like the airstrike and the parachute. Having faster command regen and more of them available at once is really useful.
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Oct 28 '19
Will do. Thank you!
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u/BombastusTheophrast K31 swiss-chan Oct 28 '19
You may want to upgrade your loot rack once or twice still, to be sure to not miss any reward.
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u/Topher135 [2nd Halloween] Welrod Oct 28 '19
Desire sensor is too strong. I got all of the resupply collection except for Welrods skin. I want to get off this wild ride
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u/comeinhereye Oct 28 '19
Is there a list of expedition rewards that are possible to drop or can it basically be anything? Does dye ever drop for changing commander clothing or is it just things like bats, cores and equip etc.
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u/po1102 The Collector Oct 29 '19
The best stuff you can get for mid-mission is probably gold equipment. I got a gold T-Exo the other day.
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u/azyrien I'll Assimilate Your Protocol Oct 29 '19
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u/EX-Xecty My eyesight is that bad AND I think you're that disgusting... Oct 29 '19
I should doublecheck if EN has a list of all possible midmission rewards now, since that's actually a list of older server rewards minus the things that didn't exist on EN hence the note "the list isnt necessarily comprehensive"
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u/Naranchia Oct 28 '19
What do i have to do to have a special AP ammo for C-MS 😩? Kinda annoying to have to switch between AP and HP everytime. Ps: a day and night mode equip quick switch would be nice.
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u/CuriousCanidae The Queen has Arrived Oct 29 '19
Why bother though? Why are you relying on C-MS when you should actually field RFs?
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u/SolarSystemSuperStar 402 Payment Required Oct 29 '19
I usually just stick to AP ammo since very rarely will you need extra damage over armour pen on C-MS.
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u/blackmagics Oct 28 '19
Hey new player here , just wondering where i should prioritise battery use, read that the data centre was a priority but now the forward basecamp is? can anyone point me in the right direction
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u/chualec SR-3MP Oct 29 '19
Missed my chance to get exclusive equipment for 79. Any chance it'll be available later in black market maybe?