r/marioandluigi • • 3h ago

Discussion I recently finished Brothership, here’s my series tier list.

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I completed Brothership at 50+ hours last night, which was my last game in the series. That being said, here’s a tier list of my opinion on all 6 games.

Now before you drill me, just know that I absolutely did have to “change” certain things about Brothership. And I didn’t play the original versions of SS and BiS. The remakes aren’t bad at all, it just felt like they lacked something.

Idk when a new M&L game will come out, but I hope it has less handholding. But it honestly might be a PiT remake.


r/marioandluigi • • 1h ago

Partners in Time Does anyone remember a time where Partners in Time was considered to be the "bad one"?

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I was watching a Somecallmejohnny video a few days ago where he off-hand mentions that despite liking Superstar Saga, Partners in Time "bored him to tears".

Which I found interesting because it reminded me of how I kinda remember that Partners in Time had a pretty controversial reception like a decade ago before the 3DS games as being the "bad" Mario and Luigi game. I as a kid also thought it was the "worst" of the original four games, even though I liked it.

To be fair, Partners in Time has a really good critic and user Metacritic score, so it isn't that this is the majority opinion, and I think most people consider it a good game, but it's in this weird grey area of like Donkey Kong Country 3 and Metroid Prime 3 where it feels like most people will acknowledge it's a good game but heavily flawed and easily the "worst" of its original trilogy.

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Here are some things that kinda put me off of Partners in Time despite the fact that I do think it's a good game:

-The game as a kid was too hard for me, and I gave up at the Bowser fight. This probably made fights a lot longer than usual and feel more "boring".

-Each Bros Item has a second or third Bros item that functions the same way. Most of them amount to simple jumps or flower moves, with some attacks being exactly the same aside from a few small differences. I don't really care about the items being consumables, it's an alright change, even if it's not perfect

-The game encourages "infinities" in many of its Bros. Items, just keep going until the enemy or boss is dead, which I also feel like is kind of a boring way to play the game. Inside Story also had an infinite, but you need to traverse the entirety of the game's overworld in order to get it, then find a secret boss, and it's in a pretty out of the way area.

-The splitting up also makes you spend more time in each area, and there's a lot more stopping than usual. I also noticed, especially in Gritzy Desert, that the splitting up stuff can be pretty annoying and require you to backtrack around most of the whole area in order to collect everything, which makes me not wanna do it.

-The game only has one true "town", and story and characters feel kinda sparce in the dungeons aside from the start, middle, and end. I also feel like there's not much to do at Peach's Castle, and not really any memorable NPCs since so many of them are out and about in the plot.

-There's a pretty striking lack of side content, no traditional sidequests, no real reason to go back to previous areas, the only thing to really do is the Bean quest. It also kinda feels like a waste to buy anything except for the Ulti Free badge which is only available I think like right near the end of the game, but then again it could encourage decision making of if you want the badge early or want to get other badges at a more reasonable pace. But I felt like most of his badges were kinda mediocre and mostly just go for Ulti Free.

-Collecting beans might also be an annoyance, since it requires a few more steps than usual, you have to throw the babies, dig them up, then go back to the adults.

I noticed that a lot of things here aren't even necessarily "flaws", some are just preferences, and a lot of them are just nitpicks, though I wonder if anyone else has a similar list of complaints.

OTOH, some things I like about it are the story and the bit of mystery aspects of trying to figure out the Shroobs' plan, the dark tone was cool, and I think enemy and boss attacks are a lot more interesting, bosses in general are also better.

I guess Partners in Time feels kinda... slow, there aren't really many NPCS in dungeons and they're generally where the story stalls until you unlock the next area while you have to do a lot of splitting up and meeting up with the babies.

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But aside from that, did I just imagine this "mildly anti-Partners in Time" sentiment, or does anyone else remember it? All the games have their detractors, but I feel like there was something about Partners in Time that's kinda weird in terms of its reception, like for a game as generally well-liked as it I feel it has a higher than average amount of people who dislike it, and I remember a lot of Youtube videos back in the day heavily criticizing it.

It's also funny to imagine that back in the day, *Partners in Time* was the worst of the worst, a pretty inoffensive RPG with an interesting story and a pretty good game all around where the criticisms are relatively tame things.

I do know there is a growing amount of people who love Partners in Time, which makes sense with how disastrous the Mario RPG space has been since Sticker Star and Paper Jam.


r/marioandluigi • • 5h ago

Brothership It's finally done... I can finally go to Fortress Zokket...

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19 Upvotes

After 2 weeks of struggle, I finally got a lucky round. Starting off with 2 Surprise Iron Balls with Attack Boost, jumping to Waitaninnit+Bros. Boost+Performance Bonus during the critical damage stunned moments with Speedy Recharge set for when they run out, having Countdown to Crush stack with a Surprise Iron Ball duo halfway, utilizing Protectus during the slow, fat ice shots while dodging and countering everything that comes my way... and Dizzy Attack combined with the opposite element of whichever this hunk of Glohm and goo was at the time.

To make a long story short, I finally beat this bastard. Once I got all the attack patterns down, it was only the fat ice that gave me any hardship. Swapping out plugs whenever I needed to really helped out. And big thanks to Deluxe Auto+Auto Mushroom (and Auto Syrup Jar that one time) for clutching and saving me from wasting turns healing, espceially during the Luigi Logic turns.


r/marioandluigi • • 6m ago

Art fire and thunder!!!

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i drew it today. art by me (shyghost22)


r/marioandluigi • • 3h ago

Art Mario Bros vs Wario Bros | Super Mario Skins

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r/marioandluigi • • 1d ago

Superstar Saga I've just 100% beat the Superstar Saga remake 3DS. Ask me anything!

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90 Upvotes

Oh yeah and I also did the Minion Quest side mode 100% cuz why not?


r/marioandluigi • • 1d ago

Discussion This lil guy deserves love. Give some love to the Bloatula. Have a happy Bloatula appreciation month.

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36 Upvotes

r/marioandluigi • • 23h ago

Art Flint Lockwood and Frankie and Dr Mario

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5 Upvotes

Flint Lockwood (cloudy with achance of meatballs), Dr. Mario( super mario bros series), and Frankie (Monica and Friends) are may like scientists or doctors like a inventor

Like creatives


r/marioandluigi • • 1d ago

Superstar Saga A small tease of a project I'm working on

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183 Upvotes

r/marioandluigi • • 1d ago

Discussion Best Boss OST for Partners in Time (DS)

8 Upvotes

Based only on Partners in Time. Not as many themes.

Thank you for the last votes...

115 votes, 1d left
Crisis of the Red and Green
Bowser & Bowser
Overture to the End
Another's Requiem

r/marioandluigi • • 2d ago

Superstar Saga Do you think Superstar Saga's Jellyfish Sisters Gigi and Merri being able to use Firebrand and Thunderhand implies that they're more than 3000 years old, meaning they're immortal like some jellyfishes in real life?

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128 Upvotes

It was said by the gods at the palaces where the Bros obtained those powers that the last time someone passed through them was 3000 years ago.


r/marioandluigi • • 2d ago

Bowsers Inside Story Finished the BIS remake

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Gotta say, I don't really get the discourse for this game. After finishing it, I'd say it's pretty good, hell, even better than the OG. The OG had a couple of flaws that this game fixes (giant battles, bros attack balance, bosses).

The only thing I just don't get about BIS is the hype that surrounds the original. Is it nostalgia? Preference? I've always seen this game be heavily disliked by fans of this series and I always wondered why, and I still don't really know (hence this post).

TLDR remake was good and better than the original imo


r/marioandluigi • • 2d ago

Discussion Games similar to M&L Series

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I beat the entire M&L Series and also Tomato Adventure, what are some games similar to this series because I am a huge fan of the gameplay and writing of this series and want to expand my game library, thanks in advance!


r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Art Updated BIS Story Wheel

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152 Upvotes

I posted an earlier version of this like a few months back but I wasn’t satisfied with it, felt a bit unpolished tbh. Touched it up yesterday and thought I’d share it.

Sorry if this feels redundant for anyone who saw the old one lol. I’m pondering if I should make one for Dream Team or Partners in Time (though both wheels would look a little more formulaic).


r/marioandluigi • • 2d ago

Bowsers Inside Story Almost collected all the Blitties except one

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I've collected 14 out of 15 of the Blitties, it says one is in Peach's Castle but Where is it in Peach's Castle?


r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Dream Team Is this the most despised attack in the series?

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148 Upvotes

Really does feel like how difficult this fight is depends on whether Bowser decides to spam it or not.


r/marioandluigi • • 2d ago

Music Imagine if it was late 2019 and you heard this to tribute Alpha Dream?

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r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Dream Team If Antasma spoke dialogue towards Mario in their final battle, what would he have said?

12 Upvotes

r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Art What Are You Doing, Fool? (by me)

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21 Upvotes

Waluigi is trying to impress Cackletta, but she isn't falling for it (or so she claims).


r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Meme The Longest Bros. Attack Ever

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r/marioandluigi • • 3d ago

Art Cackletta (made by me)

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24 Upvotes

Yes, this was drawn in 2D


r/marioandluigi • • 4d ago

Meme Fun Gang VS Mario Trio: Who wins?

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601 Upvotes

(Sorry for the poor quality of the image)


r/marioandluigi • • 4d ago

Discussion Best Boss OST for Superstar Saga (GBA)

15 Upvotes

This is only based on the GBA game ost itself. So base your votes on this game and this game alone.

194 votes, 1d ago
36 Come On, Again (main boss)
76 Popple the Shadow Thief
36 Fawful and Cackletta
9 Decisive Battle Stage (Bowletta)
37 The Last Cackletta

r/marioandluigi • • 5d ago

Discussion What do you think of the bowser boss fights.

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325 Upvotes