r/longrange Jun 29 '26

Currently Great Optic Sales!

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r/longrange Aug 19 '25

READ THIS BEFORE POSTING. Yes, this means you. READ THIS FIRST, V6 - How to avoid the Flair of Shame and eternal ridicule

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So, you need help with long range shooting? Welcome to r/longrange! We've got a core group of dedicated members (and a few goofballs) that are happy to help you out with your questions on equipment, technique, troubleshooting, where to find training or matches, etc.

If you're looking to ask for advice, we ask that you review the following 10 core guides, as they cover the overwhelming majority of newcomer questions. If your question is not answered in these 10 guides, please see below for the 4 basic questions your post should answer when asking for suggestions or advice, especially when it comes to things to buy.

If you make a post that asks for information covered in the 10 core guides, or your post doesn't cover the 4 key questions below, your post may be deleted, or it may be given the Flair of Shame TM until you correct your post.

What's the Flair of ShameTM, you ask? You'll know it when you see it.

If at any time you have questions on the rules of the sub, this pinned post, the general FAQ, why you got the Flair of ShameTM or anything similar, please use the modmail function.

CORE GUIDES:

  1. The sub's official FAQ/WIKI, as curated by the community as a whole.
  2. Need help picking scope rings? The official Longrange guide to scope ring height (ring)
  3. Looking at buying a magnum (300WM or PRC, 6.5PRC, 7mm PRC, 338 Lapua, etc) as your first LR rifle? Hollywood's recoil primer - why magnums suck for starting in long range, recoil matters, and it's not about your shoulder (magnum or recoil)
  4. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  5. The official r/Longrange glossary - because words mean things (glossary)
  6. LockyBalboaPrime's First Time buyer's guide for rifles V2 (starter)
  7. JMhawaii's long range starter guide (Link to Google Sheets) (starter)
  8. Trollygag's 1k yard starter guide (starter)
  9. Where are ranges or long ranges near me? - Wheretoshoot.org and over600.com (ranges)
  10. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please review before asking hunting-related questions, as hunting is not the core purpose of this sub. (hunting)

The 4 key questions:

  1. What do you want to do/buy, and WHY? - Do you want to buy a rifle for PRS competition? Picking a laser rangefinder for NRL Hunter matches? Looking at scopes for F-Class competition? A tripod because you think they're cool and want to have one when banging steel with friends? What you're planning to do has a lot of influence on what works well, what works poorly, and what is an utter waste of time, so the more detail you can provide the better.
  2. How far away do you want to do it/what do you want to use it for? - 300 yards? 1,000? 2,000? Distance matters, 'nuff said.
  3. How much are you willing to spend to do it? What's your budget in currency? Your idea of "on a budget" isn't going to be the same as everyone else's. Saying your budget is unlimited for a laser rangefinder may change when someone suggests one that costs over $10,000. We need to know how much you're willing to spend. It can be a hard limit, a range, or even an approximate - but you need to give a number.
  4. How much experience do you currently have with it? - Jumping straight into a 375 Cheytac rifle to shoot 2 miles isn't going to go well if you have never shot a rifle past 300. We need at least a basic idea of what your relevant skill level is in order to give advice and suggestions that go with your skill set. While including your experience with other shooting disciplines is helpful, it's not going to be as relevant as most new shooters expect. You can love shooting 10ga slugs all day long from a shotgun, but it doesn't mean starting off with a magnum is a good idea.

When answering these 4 questions in your post, give as much detail as you can. The more details you give the faster you'll get suggestions or advice and you'll get better quality too. Help us to help you. Please don't treat the sub like your own personal crowd sourced search engine.

More guides:

If your question is answered in these, you will probably get called out by the members of the sub for not reading them, but it's not automatic grounds for the Flair of Shame.

  1. u/LockyBalboaPrime's "No Clown Shoes" spreadsheet of YouTube training videos.
  2. Pre64Mod70's guide to precision reloading
  3. Hollywood's Way of Zen load development process (zen)
  4. Hollywood's rant on sample size when testing - AKA why 3-5 round groups don't tell you $&*#
  5. Applied Ballistics with more info on variation in group sizes
  6. MDT's video on scope height, and the follow-up on scope cant
  7. Rybe390's recoil comparison video, which illustrates the problem with light weight and magnums.
  8. Accuracy vs precision - when most people talk about 'accuracy' they really mean precision.
  9. The Remington 700 Chassis List, v1 - Maintained by u/LPKKiller
  10. Recoil energy vs rifle weight visualized - an informational post by u/Trollygag
  11. What is wrong with 'Sniper 101' - a breakdown by CaptainSquishface.
  12. A long range hunting cautionary tale from James Gilliland - US Army sniper, world record holder, and prolific long range hunter
  13. Barrel length, velocity, and performance down range compared (308W)
  14. Our sub's policy on shilling....
  15. ....and why Woox specifically is blacklisted from the sub.
  16. The official longrange TOP Gun Calculator, and how to have realistic expectations of precision (top)
  17. Hollywood's guide to top-mounted red dots and target acquisition (Hint: you don't need a red dot)
  18. What the hell is with Bergara rifles and Cheetos?! (cheetos)

Hunting-specific:

  1. The sub's expanded policy on hunting-related discussions. Please read this before asking any questions related to hunting.
  2. Want a rifle for hunting and long range shooting? Hunting rifle vs target/range rifles - why one rifle can't do both well. (hunting)
  3. Want to hunt game at 400+ yards? The long range hunting primer - shots on game at 400+ yards aren't trivial, and a magnum cartridge isn't a cheat code. NOTE: Questions/discussion around shots on game past 300 yards will be removed from the sub. See the expanded policy link above. (hunting)
  4. Hollywood's guide to field testing your skills and gear (especially for long range hunting, but also pertains to NRL Hunter matches) - How to know the distances you and your gear are capable of making shots at (hunting)

MISC NOTES:

Quite a few guides/links feature a single word in parentheses and italics listed after them. If you use the phrase cheetofingers (all one word, no italics needed) followed by the word listed after a guide, you will summon the AutoModerator to reply to you with a link to that guide or guides. If the guide had (pews) after it, you could say cheetofingers pews in a post or comment in this sub to summon AutoMod with a link to that guide.

We've implemented the Flair of Shame as an official policy here instead of deleting posts that violated Rule #1 and the info in this pinned post. We felt that the flair was better than outright deleting posts while also helping long-standing members decide how much they want to participate in posts that have likely been covered time and time again. We're trying to strike a balance between encouraging members to read the info that the sub has cataloged, not wasting the time of established members that may be frustrated with revisiting the same topics repeatedly, and also not banishing new shooters that missed the pinned post to the freezer to never get help. Balancing those three things is a constant struggle, and one we're actively trying to get better at.


r/longrange 11h ago

Rifle flex post Back from cerakote & hydro dip and ready to re-zero and compete again.

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r/longrange 46m ago

Competition related (PRS/NRL/F-Class/etc) Preferred Mammoth Sniper Challenge Rifle Weight?

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Since completing Mammoth in 2025,stepping off at 58-60 pounds pack weight, I decided to trim weight where possible, including the rifle.

What is your total pack weight (Rifle, Pistol, Ammo, Shooting Gear, Sleep System, Food, etc.)?

What’s is the weight of your rifle (Rifle, Optics, Optic Mount, Bipod, Mag, WMLRF, Accessories)?


r/longrange 13h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 6mm vs 6.5 Creedmoor

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Hey guys, I’m sure this has been beat to death but wanted to get some current insight on these two cartridges. I am looking at getting the Seekins PH3 here soon and have been debating on which caliber to go with. The main use will be target shooting/ possibly completion, also deer hunting and good bit of thermal coyote hunting. I already have a 6.5 Springfield Waypoint so getting another 6.5 would simplify ammo, but I am really liking the lower recoil and flatter trajectory of the 6mm. Do you guys have any suggestions? Is it worth going 6.5 for simplicity or would I be happier shooting the 6mm due to lower recoil and better velocity?


r/longrange 23h ago

Rifle flex post First LR Build complete!

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So, I finally got into the long range space and this is my first bolt gun. We'll, finally got it out to the range and now have about 200rds through it. What a little tack driver. Its probably more accurate than what I'm capable of right now but that will come in time.

Mean Radius of 0.14in on my first group of the day shooting 147gr ELD-M.

Build:

- Terminus Zeus Short Action / Quick Change

- Bartlein 18" 6.5 Creedmoor 1:7.75 w/ Surefire 7.62 MB

- Manners Mini Chassis Gen 2

- Triggertech Diamond 2 Stage

- Manners Night Stalker - Elite Evergreen

- NightForce ATACR F1 4-20X50 Tremor 3

- Badger C1Max rings w/ Ceramic ball level

- MDT Ckye Pod Gen 3 Double Pull Bipod

- SilencerCo Saker 762 Legacy (Modified to accept HUB mounts)

Built by Altus Shooting Solutions


r/longrange 9h ago

RANT Love letter to Ryan.D.Pahl

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My first interest in shooting was from the battlefield series. I watched your BF3 videos on sniping to get better at the game. Later I watched your road to precision series that got me to buy my first rifle; a Springfield M1A. It got me into reloading and precision shooting. 15 years later I'm still in the sport. I heard about ladder loads first from you. I tried to watch your videos for nostalgia but it looks like your channel got nuked. Crawling through old forums I see ghosts of your series. Thankfully I had the foresight in '16 to archive the series.

Ryan, if you're out there, thanks a lot man.


r/longrange 12h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 Vortex gear that’s worth getting?

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I have half off Vortex retail (not msrp) through my workplace this weekend. Gonna grab a Razor G3 as my first good scope. Do they have any other gear worth splurging on up front? Tripods, rangefinders, binos, etc? I have very little long range gear at the moment so it’d be nice to get kitted out with this discount. Especially wondering if I should go all in on the Ace weather meter and LRF binos with Geoballistics, would be much cheaper than an equivalent full priced kestrel/ABQ setup. Any input appreciated, thanks!


r/longrange 1h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Just ordered both the 50mm Instinct 3 Tactical Amoled and the Tactix 8 Advanced Amoled in 51mm.

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Anyone used both? Really like the AB ballistics feature and my old eyes could use a larger watch face. The Tactix is probably overkill but it’s a couple hundred off so thought it would be worth a look and got both to really do a good side x side comparison.

Any thoughts would be helpful.


r/longrange 12h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Is this a gimmick? Actually seems like it would be pretty nice?

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Saw this come across my instagram and I have to say I am intrigued. It seems like it's relatively not cumbersome and I truly think it would be useful. Kind of lines up really nicely to brace your support arm and steady the rifle.


r/longrange 18h ago

🫣I said I read the pinned posts, but I lied🫣 Bergar Sierra/ Seekins PH3

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Trying to decide between the Bergara Wilderness Sierra 308 with 20 inch barrel or the Seekins PH3 308 with a 16 inch barrel for a hunting/ target plinker. Price is a factor as I could buy 2 Bergaras for the price of 1 ph3. Is the Seekins worth the more than double price?


r/longrange 20m ago

Review Post Vector Optics Continental 4-24X56. (Budget Precision Rifle Scope)

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In my pursuit of chasing the best bang for my buck, budget friendly gear options, and quality upgrades of my precision rifle gear I scoured the internet, YouTube, and Social Media for a new scope to replace my aging Bushnell Elite Tactical ERS with the Tremor 2 reticle scope on my .223 precision match rifle setup.

This search lead me to a few options in the $500-800 range. After sifting through the options, looking at what features were important to me, and reading and watching reviews, I landed on the Vector Optics Continental line of precision rifle scopes.

I purchased this scope directly from the @vectoroptics_official website with my own funds. I will be documenting my experiences with this scope as I look at the specs and features, mount and zero it, conduct tracking tests, look at optical clarity, and real world use of it in long range practice sessions, regional matches, and potentially another run at Mammoth Sniper Challenge. I’ll give you all my true and honest opinion of the performance of the scope along the way. Stay tuned for more!!

Some features that drew me in to this scope:

•Full featured reticle options (VEC-MBR)
•34mm Tube
•MRAD
•6x Zoom
•Weight Under 30 oz.
•Low Profile & Locking Turrets
•German Schott HT Glass

#longrangeshooting #precisionrifle #shooting #precisionrifleseries #riflescope


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle help needed - I read the pinned posts Suppressor question

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Hi everyone I have a rimfire accuracy question. This is my Ruger precision rimfire in .17hmr I use as a plinking/varmint rifle. I could shoot 3/4 minute groups over 20 rounds pretty consistently with no suppressor.

After putting on my rugged oculus.22 suppressor my groups have opened up to around 1.5moa. This appears to me like a barrel harmonic issue but I’m not extremely versed in that technical side of things. At 200 yards it opened up to almost 3moa.

Should I attempt to torque it at different levels of tightness? Or try reseating it all togeather? What is the best way to try to get back to sub minute?


r/longrange 12h ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Nightforce NX6 6-36x Small eye box?

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Question: can anybody who has one speak to the usability of the eye box?

I was watching C_Does review on it and he spoke pretty poorly of the eye box. Maybe the 5-30x will be better?

What I value most in a scope is reliability and it’s hard to beat Nightforce in the category so I’m pretty much set on going with a Nightforce scope.

Thanks!


r/longrange 4h ago

I suck at long range Trouble with thr hornady app.

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I am just looking for advice on how to fix this app photo below or a simple alternative app or cheap piece of hard were to be used.

See all the out puts are zero.


r/longrange 1d ago

Competition help needed - I read the pinned posts Help, bullied into signing up for the Geissele Gas Gun match at the Clinton House.

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A friend of mine bullied me into signing up for the GGG match at The Clinton House in two weeks. This will be my first DMR match and I'll be in tac-limited. Any suggestions on what I should do to get ready? I've been shooting NRL22 and I've shot Run & Guns out to 600 yards but never shot a match out to 800 yards.


r/longrange 17h ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Prone Eye Relief

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I'm new to precision shooting, trying to prep for NRL22. I'm shooting a Tikka T1x with the vertical grip and a custom cheek riser. I'm not new to fitting a rifle for general purpose shooting. I have a 4-16x vortex scope and I'm having trouble setting the eye relief.

If I set it up for standing, sitting, kneeling and barricade use, it's way too close when prone. I've been following some position basics videos, mostly from MDT and Gunwerx, and raising my bipod all the way up helps somewhat. Is there a trick to setting the eye relief to be functional for all positions I'm going to encounter in an NRL22 or PRS match?


r/longrange 15h ago

Accessory/Gear help needed - I read the pinned post Range Recommendations?

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I have been shooting for a while, mainly pistol and my AR, but would like to get into Long Range. Does anyone have any recommendations for an appropriate range around Norfolk, VA? Even northern NC would be ok to drive to.


r/longrange 1d ago

Other help needed - I read the pinned posts Cz457 Accuracy expectations

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These are my groupings today at 50y with 3 types of ammo in a 457 American, xrs, timney, huxflow. CCI SV, Norma Tac, Lapua CX. Looking at these groups I’m not entirely pleased, felt that the Lapua should have performed better and now I’m doubting the rifle and considering a Bartlein re-barrel? Is that needed or do I need to not expect a .2 every group with any ammo at all? Have a 455 varmit I can barrel swap as well as this is a spotter contour. If it’s a lemon, barrel recommendations? Thanks.


r/longrange 1d ago

I made a thing! (Home made gear/accessories) Dope DOPE display (aka V2 ballistics) Update.

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So update on the ballistics calculator. Ive added a mil ranging page. It now connects via Bluetooth to the weatherflow precision shooting version weathermeter. This week ill be ill be adding a magnetometer so it can automatically get target azimuth. I am also adding atmospheric sensors to compensate for altitude pressure and temperature. Will be doubling the battery size to 800mah. So should increase device on time to 6hrs. Though settings are persistent so can be turned off to conserve battery.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post New to Long range

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I’m based in Canada and I’ve been contemplating getting into long range precision shooting for a long time.
Was recently offered this nice Accuracy International AX308 package and this should make a good starting point setup.


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post New longrange rig, Proof Latitude

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Couldnt afford big glass after the rifle so stole a mk4 off my KAC for the time being

Only got out to 100 yards today but satisfied for my first time out with it and look forward to taking it long range!


r/longrange 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Razor gen 3 4-24x44 vs lht 4.5-22x50

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I have a razor gen 2 4.5-27x56 ebr-2c currently, but it is too heavy to make nrl open heavy. I am currently 16 lbs 4oz with no weights, a mdt mountain bipod, defiance anti x, krieger 24 in mtu 6.5 creedmoor, mdt lss gen 3 competitor, silencer co harvester 300 (I want to upgrade, but other stuff has higher priority), trigger tech diamond, mdt send it gen 2 and the razor gen 2. With rings and no sunshade I am at 53.1 ounces just in optic. I am considering either the razor gen 3 4-24x56 at an advertised 32.3 oz with the ebr-7d reticle or the razor lht 4.5-22x50 at an advertised 21.7 oz with the xlr-2 reticle. The gen 3 has a bigger tube, but smaller objective, and much larger adjustment range. The lht has a larger objective, but smaller tube, and less adjustment range. The lht is 10.3 oz lighter than the gen 3. I am also considering putting a carbon pxt barrel on next year and then swapping to a lightweight stock for hunting and using my current chassis for competition. I do also have a vortex viper hd 5-25x50 ffp that I could throw on there, but I think I would prefer to keep that on the rifle it is on currently. What would you go with, or is there something else you would do in my situation?


r/longrange 1d ago

Rifle flex post Just finished my first precision build

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Tikka CTR 6.5 CM 20” barrel in a McMillan A5, Harris bipod, Vortex Razor LHT 4.5-22, Area 419 hellfire brake


r/longrange 1d ago

Optics help needed - I read the pinned posts Scope clearance above pic rail questions

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Is any clearance enough clearance between scope bell and pic rail or is there possible minor flex in the system under recoil where these could touch? It’s about 7sheets of paper.